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Libtards cheer war

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Monday, March 21, 2011 2:13 PM

KANEMAN


Hilarious...at least I'm true....idiots....shame on you and your families...lol

Watching MSNBC is way too funny. What a joke.

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Monday, March 21, 2011 3:41 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Guess I'm officially not a "libtard" then, since I'm not cheering.

Hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars up in smoke. I'm sure they can take it out of the overpaid teachers' pension fund, though.

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Monday, March 21, 2011 3:51 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


"Libtards" (and everyone else) should be calling for Obama's impeachment. Even if he is not the one who made the ultimate decision to send in the missles he should still be impeached, because he is Commander-in-Chief.



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Monday, March 21, 2011 3:56 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Kucinich isn't cheering. (See link in Libya thread.)

Alan Grayson isn't cheering.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-alan-grayson/no-fly-a-tactic-in-sear
ch_b_838719.html


Glenn Beck, on the other hand, is just sorry France is leading the war on Libya instead of us. We're no longer the top warmonger in the bunch! How horrifying.
http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/18/parallel-universe-france-leading-t
he-way-on-libya
/





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Monday, March 21, 2011 7:10 PM

DREAMTROVE


So far the only one on the board who has cheered the war I think is Rap.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 1:44 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And in fairness to Rappy, even he has been kind of lukewarm, mixed-feelings-ish on it.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:49 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:

Watching MSNBC is way too funny. What a joke.



GE owns MSNBC, so MSNBC builds the bombs and cruise missiles slaughtering Libyans. GO TEAM!

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:55 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Obama the Vacillator meets Christ the Redeemer: Sightseeing tour of Brazil ends while bombs and cruise missiles continue to pound Libya
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368130/Obama-Brazil-Rio-sightseeing-
tour-bombs-missiles-pound-Libya.html



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Dictator Hussein Obama with convicted Commie terrorist bank robber as police death squads fired rubber bullets at antiwar protestors in Rio

Neocon Jewish Rothschild Globalist Killers Pour
DU On Libyans In Nuclear War
http://rense.com/general93/roth.htm

Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:

"Libtards" (and everyone else) should be calling for Obama's impeachment. Even if he is not the one who made the ultimate decision to send in the missles he should still be impeached, because he is Commander-in-Chief.



Kucinich and other Dem reps are filing impeachment right now due to Libya.

Ralph Nader demands Obama's head be chopped off for warcrimes in Libya.

Hussein Obama is not CIC, since Congress never declared war. Plus even Qaddafi said yesterday that Obama was born in Africa, so he's no president, just another puppet dictator of a banana republic.


CIA Al Qaeda agent Obama, Pentagon rescued Qaddafi when Pentagon bombed Libya in 1986, CIA bombed PA103 said Pan Am

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:57 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Kucinich isn't cheering. (See link in Libya thread.)


Sure he is. He gets a couple news cycles as something other then 'Mr. Irrelevant'.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:24 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And in fairness to Rappy



Mike defending Auraptor? A sign of hope? Maybe peace really *is* possible

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:20 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Jezus, who's surprised the Republicans are against it? They would never, never approve of anything Obama does or says, that's been shown clearly enough! I don't believe it's not about what they each individually think or how they each individually feel.

I don’t like to see us involved; I also don’t like to see people fighting for their rights slaughtered, so I’m on the fence. I agree with this, for the most part:
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A critique of the U.S. involvement in the military intervention in Libya that will no doubt be common in coming days is that the Obama administration is making a large error by embarking on a war with a third Muslim country, as if reversing Moammar Gadhafi's momentum against the rebels will be a rerun of the debacle of the war against Saddam Hussein.

A further element of this view is that -- whatever the outcome of the Libyan intervention -- the United States' standing in the Islamic world will once again be severely damaged by an attack on a Muslim nation.

There are, of course, some real similarities between Hussein and Gadhafi -- both ruthless and erratic dictators of oil-rich regimes who fought bloody wars with their neighbors, brutalized their own populations, sought weapons of mass destruction, and sired some equally unattractive sons and heirs.

The déjà vu quality of the Libyan situation may help account for recent polls taken before the intervention which found that while Americans were either split or slightly in favor of imposing a no-fly zone over Libya, most were opposed to stronger U.S. military action

But the military intervention that President Obama authorized against Libya on Saturday -- eight years to the day after President George W. Bush announced the commencement of "Operation Iraqi Freedom" -- is a quite different operation than the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Beyond the obvious difference that Obama has not authorized the use of U.S. ground forces in Libya, there are several other differences to consider:

First, the Obama administration was handed a gift by the Arab League, which in its more than six-decade history has garnered a well-earned reputation as a feckless talking shop, but unusually took a stand one week ago by endorsing a no-fly zone over Libya.

That endorsement put the Arab League way out in front of the Obama administration, which was then dithering about whether to do anything of substance to help the rebels fighting Gadhafi.

The unexpected action by the Arab League gave the administration the impetus and diplomatic cover to then go to the United Nations Security Council to secure a broad resolution endorsing not only a no-fly zone, but also allowing member states to "take all necessary measures" to protect civilians in Libya.

This U.N. resolution is reminiscent of the one that President George H.W. Bush secured in November 1990, which gave Iraq six weeks to withdraw from Kuwait following Hussein's invasion of that country. The U.N. resolution in 1990 similarly empowered states to use "all necessary means" to force Iraq out of Kuwait if Hussein ignored the deadline.

The similarities do not end there. The coalition that massed to drive Hussein out of Kuwait involved significant forces from major Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. So too the Libyan no-fly zone will be enforced by Qatar, along with western powers such as France and the U.K.

This is all quite in contrast to George W. Bush's ineffectual attempts to gather international support for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. There was no U.N. resolution explicitly authorizing the use of military force against Hussein, and no Muslim countries participated in the American invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Indeed, before the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Turkish parliament voted against allowing American troops passage across Turkey to invade northern Iraq, which put a wrench in U.S. military planning.

Underlining the fact that the Iraq War was widely viewed as illegitimate by Muslim countries, the same year that Turkey voted against allowing American soldiers to use its soil to attack Iraq, Turkish soldiers were also leading the International Security Assistance Force helping to keep the peace in post-Taliban Afghanistan, a military operation that was also authorized by the United Nations and was not seen as illegitimate by much of the Muslim world.

The Bush administration's largely unilateral decision to go to war in Iraq (the U.K. and a few other nations provided troops) undermined America's standing in Islamic countries. A poll taken a few months after the 2003 invasion found that Indonesians, Jordanians, Turks, and Moroccans all expressed more "confidence" that Osama bin Laden would "do the right thing" than that Bush would.

According to a poll four years later, America's favorability rating stood at 9% in Turkey (down from 52% before September 11, 2001) and 29% in Indonesia (down from 75% before September 11).

Finally, another key difference between the Iraq war and the Libyan operation is that the casus belli for Iraq was based on highly classified intelligence accessible to few people -- later proved to be wrong -- that Saddam Hussein continued to maintain a weapons of mass destruction program. By contrast, the Libyan intervention was caused by the real time evidence provided by the world's leading media organizations -- including, of course, Al Jazeera -- that Gadhafi is massacring his own people.

The high level of anti-Americanism in the Muslim world that was generated by the Iraq War is unlikely to be replicated by U.S. military action against Libya, because Gadhafi is widely reviled in the Arab world. His antics on the world stage have earned him the enmity of even his fellow autocrats -- who will not be welcoming him if he chooses to "retire" to Saudi Arabia as other murderous dictators of his ilk have in the past (think Idi Amin).

And the fact that both the Arab League and the United Nations have endorsed a military action against Gadhafi strongly suggests that the Libyan intervention will not generate a renewed wave of anti-Americanism in the Muslim world.

Instead, it underlines a striking feature of the protests that have roiled the Middle East in the past several weeks: Strikingly absent from those protests has been the ritualized burning of American flags, something that hitherto was largely pro forma in that part of the world. That's because Arabs have finally been able to express publicly that their biggest enemy is not the United States, but their own rulers.

To me there’s a big difference; especially in that Bush bullied everyone into the Iraq war, there was no UN resolution backing it, some Arab countries approve of what’s being done, and even those almost unilaterally opposed to US involvement in the Middle East chose to abstain.

Again, only time and history will tell the whole story. I believe Obama was reluctant to engage and will get us out asap, but that's just what I believe.

As to Democrats cheering...nobody's "cheering", certainly nobody here and
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Reps. Jerrold Nadler (N.Y.), Donna Edwards (Md.), Mike Capuano (Mass.), Dennis Kucinich (Ohio), Maxine Waters (Calif.), Rob Andrews (N.J.), Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas), Barbara Lee (Calif.) and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D.C.) “all strongly raised objections to the constitutionality of the president’s actions” during that call, said two Democratic lawmakers who took part.
It's not as cut and dried as ideological partisans love to spout.

And of COURSE there are cries of impeachment. Despite Bush going to war without UN approval, despite it being an INVASION of Iraq which the Iraqis didn't want (regardless of the propaganda we were sold at the time), despite our knowing now what Bush's real intent was in invading Iraq and how he was planning it long before 9/11, despite, in my opinion, Congress and all of us being lied into it, I didn't hear the Republicans crying "impeachment!" when he did it. Until and unless they ever cry for Bush, et al., to be held responsible, I don't give their cries any weight.

Partisanship rules our legislators, always has been and always will be, much moreso for the Republicans than the "herding-cats" Democrats. That will probably always be so, except for the Tea Partiers causing rifts nowadays.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:09 AM

DREAMTROVE


I don't feel ambivalent about starting a world war. I think that Bush would have done it if he hadn't been such a cheapskate. He kept underfunding his war efforts by diverting funds to give to his cronies. Now Obama has the war engine revved up. There's very little use for soldiers, we're in full Sarah Connor mode, or will be pretty soon, we're Skynet.

Also bothersome is that, while the daily show spot is funny, they seem to be unwaveringly on the side of war. Pretty classic partisan blindness, they're also pretty solidly against the environment as well. It's a 180 reversal for them, because they are following the blue line, not noticing when it twists and turns.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

Niki, Right now the italics from your signature are bleeding into my post and the copyright.

Most posts your purple bleeds into the copyright. I'm looking for my bleeding green, on beta.

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:47 PM

QUESTIONABLEQUESTIONALITY


LOL, many liberals are tying themselves in knots(once again) to defend this Barry character. It is more than amusing. How's all that hopey changey stuff working out for ya?

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by QuestionableQuestionality:
LOL, many liberals are tying themselves in knots(once again) to defend this Barry character. It is more than amusing. How's all that hopey changey stuff working out for ya?




Care to name them?

I've seen a few conservatards give lukewarm support to Obama's latest military actions, even while trying to figure out how to "support the troops" while decrying their commander, but I haven't seen anyone on the "liberal" side defending this.

You and KKKaney keep making the same accusations AND the same spelling mistakes. Why is that?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:29 PM

QUESTIONABLEQUESTIONALITY


True the conservatards like war. But, that is not what libtards voted for. Gotta suck being lied to over and over again. Who is KKKaney? Glad to see you found the emoticons. Good for you.

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Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:03 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
"Libtards" (and everyone else) should be calling for Obama's impeachment. Even if he is not the one who made the ultimate decision to send in the missles he should still be impeached, because he is Commander-in-Chief.


Impeach ?

Well, I'll SETTLE for impeachment, but after all that has passed so far, this is kind of a last straw kinda thing, and my idea of what to do about it involves rope, a short drop and a sudden stop.

It was good enough for Saddam, right ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 8:14 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Impeach ?

Well, I'll SETTLE for impeachment...


You only say that cause he's black, we'd never impeach a white Democrat.

Impeachment now is a silly notion, lets save that for his 2nd term.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 8:30 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


More bullshit. Let's see...by the end of Bush's term, how many Republicans were angered by/ashamed of him? How many went right on defending him anyway for partisan reasons?

Now, how many Democrats have been vocal about their dislike of Obama's actions in one respect or another? And tell me please precisely WHICH liberals here have become "pretzels" trying to defend Obama?? I haven't seen any, so you must be seeing something I'm missing.

I have tried to bring PERSPECTIVE at times, been on the fence about Afghanistan and now Libya, abhorred some of Obama's actions quite vocally at other times, and rarely given him little more than leukwarm approval, so it can't be me...so tell us who.

But then, I only voted for him because the concept of McCain/Palin was so ghastly, and he was the only other viable option. So I guess you're not talking about me, tho' so many of your opinion constantly call him my "god" or "hero" or somesuch idiocy.
Quote:

at least I'm true
Anyone have ANY idea what that's supposed to mean? Beats me [/snark]

Damn, DT, apparently I STILL haven't got it right. Grrrrr...I'll keep trying. Aha...I found what's wrong with the italics. How's this one? Personally, I don't care if your color bleeds into the copyright, so don't bother trying to fix it for me. I was just letting you know, in case you were interested. For me, just like my purple, your green helps me go back to find your posts if there was something I wanted to respond to; I really like that!

Bear in mind I can't know if something in my commands is wrong if you or someone else doesn't tell me; it appears fine on my computer. Thanx for letting me know.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:02 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
You only say that cause he's black, we'd never impeach a white Democrat


YOU might not, for mine own I'd have NO damn problem with it - you really think I don't despise Woodrow Wilson or LBJ as much as I hate Nixon and Bush ?

Shit, did I not point out there was much better stuff than who he was bangin to impeach Clinton for ?

I really do think we should hold out for the rope though - make it a straight up thing, that folks know going in that should they betray that trust the consequences can and will be lethal, you remove a lot of incentive to do so.

Of course, that also ties in with my concept that no one should ever be allowed to submit, enact or enforce a law they are not subject to, ever, because while otherwise unrelated, that would prevent any claims of immunity.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:35 PM

MOCKROMANCER


Liberals are the equivalent of a pair of an old gramma's 1930's bloomers. They are to big, try to cover too much, and are funny colors.

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Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:46 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I've always found the names we call each other in life funny, libturds, it just sounds funny to me, makes me laugh, is there a comparable name that liberals call conservatives that would also make me laugh? who comes up with this stuff? :)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:59 PM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


In checking my Liberal Job Description, I do not find cheering for war in it.

Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
is there a comparable name that liberals call conservatives that would also make me laugh?


Cons?


Facts are stubborn things.

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Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
I've always found the names we call each other in life funny, libturds, it just sounds funny to me, makes me laugh, is there a comparable name that liberals call conservatives that would also make me laugh? who comes up with this stuff? :)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya




Conservatards. Republican'ts. Teabaggers.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:14 PM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Teabaggers.


Heh, and they came up with that one themselves, which I still find high-larious.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Teabaggers.


Heh, and they came up with that one themselves, which I still find high-larious.


Facts are stubborn things.




That is what makes it so full of win. :)

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Friday, March 25, 2011 7:38 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
I've always found the names we call each other in life funny, libturds, it just sounds funny to me, makes me laugh, is there a comparable name that liberals call conservatives that would also make me laugh? who comes up with this stuff? :)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya




Conservatards. Republican'ts. Teabaggers.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill




LOL...kwicko teabagger? Republican?...man you take the bait and run with it...

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Friday, March 25, 2011 1:10 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


"Mockromancer"...oh, boy, someone needed a new sickpuppy. Joined the 23, and has only posted in RWED. Dead giveaway of someone who doesn't give a SHIT about Firefly and just comes here to troll. Sounds familiar...


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Friday, March 25, 2011 8:52 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


LiLi, have I ever told you how much I like your "walking up the Downslide" quote? I think of River saying that whenever I'm at the airport on those escalators. And I like to use the word hy-larious too.

I guess there's just something childish in me that laughs at the word turds, not to mention that the word liberal doesn't sound like turd, so where do those smelly turds come from anyways? :)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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