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Trump launches missiles against Syria

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Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Trump Unleashes Military Strikes: 59 Tomahawk Missiles Hit Syria - Live Feed

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As previewed earlier tonight, the United States fired a barrage of cruise missiles into Syria on Friday morning in retaliation for this week's alleged chemical weapons attack against civilians by the Assad regime, U.S. officials said. It was the first direct American assault on the Syrian government and Donald Trump's most dramatic military order since becoming president. According to NBC, only tomahawks missiles fired, no fixed wing aircraft involved, for now.

As AP notes, the surprise strike marked a striking reversal for Trump, who warned as a candidate against the U.S. getting pulled into the Syrian civil war, now in its seventh year. But the president appeared moved by the photos of children killed in the chemical attack, calling it a "disgrace to humanity" that crossed "a lot of lines."

Well, for sure you don't need a "live feed" but you get the point

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Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:08 PM

RIVERLOVE


And Barry Manilow announced that he's been GAY since forever. What a week!

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Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, several thoughts comes to mind.

A) The "chemical attack" was precipitated by the Syrian "rebels" keeping stores of Sarin in bunkers ("civil defense areas") which were bombed- and released - by Syrian warplanes. This would NOT be the first time that "Syrian rebels" used chemical weapons, nor the first time that the "Syrian rebels" and their Turkish allies created a "false flag" chemical weapons operation.

The timing is right: Syrian troops are rolling up the al-Qaida/ISIL-affiliated opposition in Idlib pretty handily, and peace is being forced on the "rebels" (mostly foreign extremists) and - as a false flag- this creates a handy breathing space for terrorists everywhere!

B) The "chemical attack" really WAS sourced in the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and Assad. Assad, believing himself to be above consequence as a result of Tillersons's soft-on-Assad speech, launched an entirely gratuitous and unnecessary chemical weapons attack against a "civil defense" structure (i.e. hardened and weaponized dug-in fortification). Well, it doesn't make a boatload of sense to me, but... stranger things have happened.

Trump was careful to warn Russia ahead of time, so the damage was limited to Syrian troops and the "Syrian side" of the two airbases struck.

So YAY! for the neocons! They got their licks in.



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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


One thing occurs to me: Trump is trying to make headway with Xi Jingping on N Korea. Perhaps this is a warning shot against THEIR bow. Not so much Syria's.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:56 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I would feel a lot more reassured if there was at least some regular communication between the Trump admin and Russia. But since "talking to Russia" is a crime equivalent to TREASON! ... at least, according to the assholes on the board ... I guess we'll just have to stumble along blindly.

Are you happy now that you got what you wanted?


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Friday, April 7, 2017 12:58 AM

DREAMTROVE


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So YAY! for the neocons! They got their licks in.


Yep. oh well, Trump'll fry. The world will now hate us forever. Seeking citizenship elsewhere.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
One thing occurs to me: Trump is trying to make headway with Xi Jingping on N Korea. Perhaps this is a warning shot against THEIR bow. Not so much Syria's.

Neocons, fourth international. Maybe. Could be chinese targets.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/us-military-has-launched-more-50-than-m
issiles-aimed-at-syria-nbc-news.html


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I would feel a lot more reassured if there was at least some regular communication between the Trump admin and Russia.


There is, it's called twitter. we're so screwed.


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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:00 AM

DREAMTROVE


Double post.

Good job guys, ya finally got through to Trump. Now he's yours.
In Vlad we trust. Russian trolls. (okay, I kid, but kinda down on Trump at the moment.)

ETA:
https://twitter.com/search?q=trump+russia+syria&ref_src=twsrc^goog
le|twcamp^serp|twgr^search


Lots of false narratives here. I guess stupid is the father of fake news.
And it brought us here. We're going to pay for this. Russia is going to send us the bill. Somewhere. it'll be an explosive one.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 4:23 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Now things are really interesting

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Friday, April 7, 2017 6:01 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Looks like you guys might just get that war with Russia you've been looking for the last 3 months now. Caveat Emptor.

Thanks Bana!

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Friday, April 7, 2017 6:43 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


What a week indeed..........LMAO


SGG


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And Barry Manilow announced that he's been GAY since forever. What a week!


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Friday, April 7, 2017 6:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Agreed....set up and executed without a hitch.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
One thing occurs to me: Trump is trying to make headway with Xi Jingping on N Korea. Perhaps this is a warning shot against THEIR bow. Not so much Syria's.

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.



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Friday, April 7, 2017 8:21 AM

THGRRI









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Friday, April 7, 2017 8:28 AM

THGRRI


It was time to embarrass Russia. We just bombed the shit out of their allie while they were in the room. So, I said, watch what happens next. We did it. I also said, lets see what the big bad Russians do.

Personally I'm terrified.


Iran

Turkey

China

North Korea




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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:06 AM

DREAMTROVE


Meh. Nick. I would've gone with the pnac list, Agh, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Dudan, Yemen, Syria, Iran. But seeing as we might have just bombed a Chinese base in Syria, Maybe you're right. I think it was a move to fake out the deep state, and no actual war is coming. Of course Putin will be forced to do something to please his people, who will not be happy if he just twiddles his thumbs.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:07 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
It was time to embarrass Russia. We just bombed the shit out of their allie while they were in the room. So, I said, watch what happens next. We did it. I also said, lets see what the big bad Russians do.

Personally I'm terrified.


Iran

Turkey

China

North Korea

This is standard stuff for presidents who want to "send a message." Cruise missiles cause some damage but don't endanger any American lives. We'll see if Trump takes things any further.

Marco Rubio is on my TV right now calling this a great thing. "It's not a message, it's an actual degrading of their capabilities." If Obama had done something like this, Rubio would have contemptuously called it a pinprick.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/04/trump-bombs-syria


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:12 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Of course Putin will be forced to do something to please his people, who will not be happy if he just twiddles his thumbs.

Fearing the grave risk of killing Russian military personnel on the ground in Syria, the United States military gave Russia advance notice before launching cruise missile strikes overnight on a Syrian air base that is used to store chemical weapons, according to a U.S. intelligence assessment.

Trump Surrenders Element of Surprise by Warning Russia of Planned Strike on Its Ally Syria
https://theintercept.com/2017/04/07/trump-surrenders-element-surprise-
warning-russia-planned-strike-ally-syria
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:13 AM

THGRRI


It is a pin prick. It does however show how weak Russia is. Their allies, our bombs, they do nothing. Now, guns to the Ukraine would be a next good step.


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
It was time to embarrass Russia. We just bombed the shit out of their allie while they were in the room. So, I said, watch what happens next. We did it. I also said, lets see what the big bad Russians do.

Personally I'm terrified.


Iran

Turkey

China

North Korea

This is standard stuff for presidents who want to "send a message." Cruise missiles cause some damage but don't endanger any American lives. We'll see if Trump takes things any further.

Marco Rubio is on my TV right now calling this a great thing. "It's not a message, it's an actual degrading of their capabilities." If Obama had done something like this, Rubio would have contemptuously called it a pinprick.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/04/trump-bombs-syria


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly








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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:29 AM

DREAMTROVE


Second,

True, but he still has to respond, or the Russians will be upset with him.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:46 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Fearing the grave risk of killing Russian military personnel on the ground in Syria, the United States military gave Russia advance notice before launching cruise missile strikes overnight on a Syrian air base that is used to store chemical weapons, according to a U.S. intelligence assessment.


"That is used to store chemical weapons, according to US intelligence assessment". I believe them because they've never lied to us before.


Yanno, having worked in a chemical weapons detection project once upon a time, I can tell you a lot about them.

First of all, Sarin, Tabun, and similar compounds are unstable. If you make them under less-than-ideal circumstances and aren't able to purify them sufficiently, not only will you have telltale impurities and side products, which can pinpoint the "batch", but will also cause the CW to degrade.

So military manufacturers add stabilizers, which also help pinpoint who made the CW, since different mfrs use different stabilizers. Also, even with stabilizers they don't have a long shelf life. It's not like Assad could have "held back" CW from the roundup in 2014 and still have them viable three years later.

Also, when investigating what happened and who is to blame, you have to look for the remnants of a delivery system: many rocket tailfins of suitable type and standard manufacture, for example, if this was sourced from the Syrian Army.

So collecting actual samples of CW residues and finding strike points of actual CW missiles would be part of reasonable investigation.



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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:50 AM

DREAMTROVE


Sig, it's an obvious lie, but it shows that the intel community is suddenly on board with Trump. Hmm.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:50 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Meh. Nick. I would've gone with the pnac list, Agh, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Dudan, Yemen, Syria, Iran. But seeing as we might have just bombed a Chinese base in Syria, Maybe you're right. I think it was a move to fake out the deep state, and no actual war is coming. Of course Putin will be forced to do something to please his people, who will not be happy if he just twiddles his thumbs.


Such as?

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:58 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Trump sends a resolute signal:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-39527554

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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Friday, April 7, 2017 10:58 AM

DREAMTROVE


Somewhere it hurt us, an ally in the middle east. I assume the real target will be ISIS, w/o narratives is our ally, and Putin know this, and ISIS actually did the attack, probably under unofficial US orders. He won't attack Israel because it's a Russian ally as well, but he'll do something that sends a public message and one that sends a message to deep state as well, saying "look, i can be really annoying." If Putin got involved on the anti-Saudi side in Yemen, that would be deeply annoying to the PNAC crowd. I'm not sure that would speak to the Russians. Wait and see what Lavrov says, then interperet the subtext.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 11:00 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


What do people make of the fact that Russia's much-vaunted air defence systems were not even activated to defend against the strikes (despite a US-supplied pre-warning)? I can think of a couple of different reasons...

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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Friday, April 7, 2017 11:01 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Now, guns to the Ukraine would be a next good step.
THUGGER, jonesing for war, extra war, and more war. Total war. Forever war. First it was bin Laden. Then the Taliban. Then Hussein. Then Yanukovych. Then Aristide. Then Gaddafi. BUT PUTIN

They're all Emmanuel Goldstein.




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 11:06 AM

DREAMTROVE


KPO,

An underhanded agreement between Trump and Putin to get rid of the deep state coup. Missile defense systems are not very reliable, they would reduce they number of missiles that hit, but with 59 some would get through. And then the Americans would send more. He knew the attack was coming, if there wasn't an agreement, he would have sunk our ship.

Quote:

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov:

The Kremlin considers the American strikes against Syria an aggression against a sovereign government in violations of the norms of international law, and under a far-fetched pretext. This step by Washington is causing significant damage to Russian-American relations, which are already in a deplorable state.


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Friday, April 7, 2017 11:07 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Now, guns to the Ukraine would be a next good step.
THUGGER, jonesing for war, extra war, and more war. Total war. Against Emmanuel Goldstein.


1kiki,

Yep, we got that. It answers that question. Second too, I'm afraid. So they were only anti-Trump because they were pro-war. Now we've settled that.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:02 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Looks like you guys might just get that war with Russia you've been looking for the last 3 months now. Caveat Emptor.



Do you know what Caveat Emptor means?

And who are "you guys"? Seriously Jack, if you just going to post lies, sorry, "untruths," I'll go back to ignoring your posts - we have too many liars already.

BTW - EVERYONE - it's too early to call this good, nothing, or bad. It's definitely interesting though.



It means let the buyer beware.

"You guys" are exactly what it sounds like.

By all means, go back to ignoring my posts.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:06 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Second,

True, but he still has to respond, or the Russians will be upset with him.



russia






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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:09 PM

THGRRI


russia

Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Now, guns to the Ukraine would be a next good step.
THUGGER, jonesing for war, extra war, and more war. Total war. Against Emmanuel Goldstein.


1kiki,

Yep, we got that. It answers that question. Second too, I'm afraid. So they were only anti-Trump because they were pro-war. Now we've settled that.








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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:14 PM

THGRRI


Reduce the number of dreamtrove, not reduce they number of. We are playing the game you started are we not?

Sunk our ship, really, I don't think so. We have troops in Syria, lets see what happens.

Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
KPO,

An underhanded agreement between Trump and Putin to get rid of the deep state coup. Missile defense systems are not very reliable, they would reduce they number of missiles that hit, but with 59 some would get through. And then the Americans would send more. He knew the attack was coming, if there wasn't an agreement, he would have sunk our ship.

Quote:

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov:

The Kremlin considers the American strikes against Syria an aggression against a sovereign government in violations of the norms of international law, and under a far-fetched pretext. This step by Washington is causing significant damage to Russian-American relations, which are already in a deplorable state.









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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:21 PM

THGRRI




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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Yanno, having worked in a chemical weapons detection project once upon a time, I can tell you a lot about them.












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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:25 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
russia




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:26 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


BTW THUGGER, which idiot hillbilly are you?
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:





Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:31 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
russia




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.



Sure; The Truth about Russian Trolls: http://bit.ly/2nwoDoz






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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:34 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
BTW THUGGER, which idiot hillbilly are you?
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Originally posted by THGRRI:










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Friday, April 7, 2017 1:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Now things are really interesting

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61554 The UN investigation on Ghouta 2013 did NOT identify a perpetrator.
http://undocs.org/en/A/67/997

However, UN investigations into multiple potential chemical attacks did reveal that the 'opposition' used chemical weapons.
http://undocs.org/A/68/663

Magons

It appears you can't handle facts. According to the first UN report, there was zero evidence Assad 'gassed his own people' at Ghouta. But there is evidence that the 'opposition', as the UN calls them, had - and probably still has - the ability to manufacture chemical weapons, and has been conclusively shown in the second UN report to have used them in the past.

Now, I'm sure you believed what you were told: Assad is a really bad guy who used chemical weapons on civilians. And you believed that despite decades of experience that western governments routinely propagandize their own citizens (like for example, Hussein's WMDs. You do remember that, don't you?) And yet, DESPITE available evidence that you've been lied to, intensively and deliberately, on multiple occasions, even in the very recent past (Assad 'gassed his own people, a claim made over and over with zero evidence to back it up, and discredited by the UN), you then chose to believe the propaganda about this event as well.

So, now let me point out there is also ZERO evidence Assad did this.

There is ZERO reason for him to have done it.

And there is EVERY reason for the US Deep State to launch a false flag attack to further its agenda.

Now, I'm not going to point out exactly how your belief in the government's portrayal of this event calls into question your memory, intelligence, honesty, and sanity. I'll let you reflect on that yourself.




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 3:29 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Looks like you guys might just get that war with Russia you've been looking for the last 3 months now. Caveat Emptor.



Do you know what Caveat Emptor means?

And who are "you guys"? Seriously Jack, if you just going to post lies, sorry, "untruths," I'll go back to ignoring your posts - we have too many liars already.

BTW - EVERYONE - it's too early to call this good, nothing, or bad. It's definitely interesting though.



It means let the buyer beware.

"You guys" are exactly what it sounds like.

By all means, go back to ignoring my posts.



Ok, so you're going to go with lying. That's definitely the unifying trait amongst you guys.When you're not smart enough to out think someone, you can always fall back on telling the bigger lies.

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LOL... There he goes with the intelligence thing again. Where on earth did you get the silly little idea that you were gifted with any large amount of it? That's cute.

I'm still waiting for you to point out whatever lie it is that I'm supposedly telling here.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 5:51 PM

DREAMTROVE


He hasn't been cleared for intelligence, he's only aloud to retweet. And possibly suwwendew.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 6:30 PM

THGRRI









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Friday, April 7, 2017 6:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yep. Just like GWB did with Iraq.

And that turned out so well.





Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 6:49 PM

DREAMTROVE


Putin's response is to beef up his Syrian forces, so if we do more in Syria, he says he's concerned that we might run into one another.

It's curious how quickly everyone switches sides when the shooting starts.

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Friday, April 7, 2017 11:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, this event DOES let us sort out the sheep from the goats

AGAINST

AMERICAN POLITICIANS
Bernie Sanders "If the last 15 years have shown anything, it’s that such engagements are disastrous for American security, for the American economy, and for the American people."

Tulsi Gabbard former US Army Major ‘reckless’, ‘short-sighted’, "unconstitutional'

Seth Moulton (D-MA), former Marine Corps officer 'So @POTUS cares enough about the Syrian people to launch 50 Tomahawks but not enough to let the victims of Assad find refuge & freedom here.'

Ted Lieu (D-CA), colonel in the Air Force reserves 'this is UNCONSTITUTIONAL'

Rand Paul ‘The United States Was Not Attacked’

Tom Massie "big mistake'

Justin Amash 'departure from Constitution'

Tim Kaine "unlawful"

EU POLITICIANS
Farage ““I am very surprised by this. I think a lot of Trump voters will be waking up this morning and scratching their heads and saying, ‘where will it all end? ... Previous interventions in the Middle East have made things worse rather than better”

Paul Nutall (Farage's successor) “rash, trigger happy, nonsensical and will achieve nothing.”

le Pen "Is it too much to ask to wait for the results of an independent international investigation (into Tuesday's attack) before carrying out this kind of strike?"

FORMER TRUMP SUPPORTERS
Paul Joseph Watson "I guess Trump wasn't "Putin's puppet" after all, he was just another deep state/Neo-Con puppet"

Cernovich "Today over 500,000 people have watched my videos and streams. 90% are @realDonaldTrump supporters, none want war with Syria"

Anne Coulter "The beloved rebels we'll help by intervening in Syria: women forced into veils & posters of Osama hung on the walls."

Laura Ingraham "Missiles flying. Rubio's happy. McCain ecstatic. Hillary's on board. A complete policy change in 48 hrs."

Breitbart supporters "I keep reading these Breitbart comments on Syria. Eight thousand new ones in just a few minutes. They are very angry at Trump." [NO SHIT!]




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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Friday, April 7, 2017 11:37 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:











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Saturday, April 8, 2017 7:02 AM

DREAMTROVE


Sig,

Yes, I initially thought our liberals were misinformed doves, but now I see that they are fairly well informed hawks, who just try to hide the fact that they are hawks, and that is their primary agenda. They probably have the old liberal standbys like population control.

Tim Kaine is not being insightful here, he's being a douche, because Trump. Rand Paul is actually taking a stand. Against war, rather than against Trump. Rand isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either, but his dad is helping.


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Saturday, April 8, 2017 8:16 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Yanno, having worked in a chemical weapons detection project once upon a time, I can tell you a lot about them.

First of all, Sarin, Tabun, and similar compounds are unstable. If you make them under less-than-ideal circumstances and aren't able to purify them sufficiently, not only will you have telltale impurities and side products, which can pinpoint the "batch", but will also cause the CW to degrade.

So military manufacturers add stabilizers, which also help pinpoint who made the CW, since different mfrs use different stabilizers. Also, even with stabilizers they don't have a long shelf life. It's not like Assad could have "held back" CW from the roundup in 2014 and still have them viable three years later.

Also, when investigating what happened and who is to blame, you have to look for the remnants of a delivery system: many rocket tailfins of suitable type and standard manufacture, for example, if this was sourced from the Syrian Army.

So collecting actual samples of CW residues and finding strike points of actual CW missiles would be part of reasonable investigation.- SIGNY

Sig, it's an obvious lie, but it shows that the intel community is suddenly on board with Trump. Hmm. - DT



Or Trump suddenly caved in to the deep state.

Did you notice that his sworn enemies- McStain, CNN, NYT, MSNBC, Graham, and the rest of the warhawks are suddenly lauding Trump? No more RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA! in the media, NO MORE LEAKS, no more constant-yammering-hysteria? Suddenly, the cone of silence on the topic?

Trump became President last night Oh, not the day he was elected??? Disgusting and sickening of the media. Assholes.

I wonder... will the various "investigations" into "Russia's role" in our elections, and "Trump's ties to Russia" die a quiet death? Will the media faucet of hysteria be shut off for good? Or will the deep state and its complicit press turn on the taps again, if Trump should stray off the path? And will the masses once again believe the press if it should pull a ANOTHER U-turn?

And what does this mean for his other foreign policy measures? Will he cave on future trade deals?




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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Saturday, April 8, 2017 8:48 AM

THGRRI


U.S. vows to ramp up pressure on Assad in wake of missile strike

The United States is vowing to keep up the pressure on Syria after the intense nighttime wave of missile strikes from U.S. ships, despite the prospect of escalating Russian ill will that could further inflame one of the world’s most vexing conflicts.

The Trump administration signaled Friday that the U.S. could follow this week’s missile attack with new sanctions against Syria, CBS News senior foreign affairs correspondent Margaret Brennan reports.

Standing firm, the Pentagon was even probing whether Russia itself was involved in the chemical weapons assault that compelled President Trump to action. The attack against a Syrian air base was the first U.S. assault against the government of President Bashar Assad.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-vows-to-ramp-up-pressure-on-assad-in-w
ake-of-missile-strike
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Saturday, April 8, 2017 8:51 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Sig you voted for unpredictability in the form of DJT, and unpredictability is what you got

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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
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Saturday, April 8, 2017 9:43 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Sig you voted for unpredictability in the form of DJT, and unpredictability is what you got

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SIG fought tooth and nail here preaching Trump should be elected president because she believed it would be best for Russia. Trump just said russia.








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Saturday, April 8, 2017 9:48 AM

6STRINGJOKER


lol... T spent 3 months trying to convince the RWED that Putin had his hand up Trumps ass.

T doesn't have any idea what his purpose is from day to day.

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