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Wednesday, May 30, 2018 10:18 PM

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Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:39 PM

BRENDA


I'll agree.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


If it takes one to know one, the ultimate Troll T/JJ might have the best chance of finding one.

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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That's one of the reasons I voted for him.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:49 AM

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's one of the reasons I voted for him.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Really? Because a reasonable person won't have believed Trump. He frequently makes representations about things where it’s simply not possible to immediately know for sure whether he’s telling the truth, typically because they refer to his private plans or activities. As president, for example, Trump has said that he would develop a plan to provide every American with health insurance, that the North Korean government had agreed to denuclearize, that he would promote a “bill of love” to help DREAMers, that he would take on the National Rifle Association to reduce school shootings, and that he would develop a tax plan that rich people would not benefit “at all” from.

None of this was true. Critically, none of it was demonstrably false at the time Trump said it. But equally critically, a reasonable person would have known better than to believe in any of it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:52 AM

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:55 AM

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:02 AM

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:10 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's one of the reasons I voted for him.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Really? Because a reasonable person won't have believed Trump. He frequently makes representations about things where it’s simply not possible to immediately know for sure whether he’s telling the truth, typically because they refer to his private plans or activities. As president, for example, Trump has said that he would develop a plan to provide every American with health insurance, that the North Korean government had agreed to denuclearize, that he would promote a “bill of love” to help DREAMers, that he would take on the National Rifle Association to reduce school shootings, and that he would develop a tax plan that rich people would not benefit “at all” from.

None of this was true. Critically, none of it was demonstrably false at the time Trump said it. But equally critically, a reasonable person would have known better than to believe in any of it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Who said anything about the truth. They're all fucking crooks and liars.

I just said I voted for him because he was a troll.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:38 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's one of the reasons I voted for him.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Really? Because a reasonable person won't have believed Trump. He frequently makes representations about things where it’s simply not possible to immediately know for sure whether he’s telling the truth, typically because they refer to his private plans or activities. As president, for example, Trump has said that he would develop a plan to provide every American with health insurance, that the North Korean government had agreed to denuclearize, that he would promote a “bill of love” to help DREAMers, that he would take on the National Rifle Association to reduce school shootings, and that he would develop a tax plan that rich people would not benefit “at all” from.

None of this was true. Critically, none of it was demonstrably false at the time Trump said it. But equally critically, a reasonable person would have known better than to believe in any of it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Who said anything about the truth. They're all fucking crooks and liars.

I just said I voted for him because he was a troll.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You voted for Trump because he is a troll, which is not what a reasonable person would do. Texas Republicans I know voted for their "reasons", none of which had anything to do with Trump being a troll. The Republicans and Trump are reactionaries. FDR, LBJ, JFK were Democrats, Hillary is a Democrat, and anything a Democrat wants ought to be rolled back by reactionaries until we again live in the wonderful days of Warren G Harding. Most of the Republicans don't know Harding from Calvin Coolidge, but they know what they want and it is not a troll. They want the return to the past, the Roaring Twenties, before the Crash of 1929. The beautiful part is that is a vision that can be relatively easy to achieve, at least compared to the hard work of what Democrats want.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:42 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND is a reactionary. Anything that a Republican might do must be rolled back, until we can live in the wonderful days of LBJ.

And, SECOND, before you (once again) misrepresent what I say and put words in my mouth, please re-read my signature lines. With comprehension this time.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's one of the reasons I voted for him.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Really? Because a reasonable person won't have believed Trump. He frequently makes representations about things where it’s simply not possible to immediately know for sure whether he’s telling the truth, typically because they refer to his private plans or activities. As president, for example, Trump has said that he would develop a plan to provide every American with health insurance, that the North Korean government had agreed to denuclearize, that he would promote a “bill of love” to help DREAMers, that he would take on the National Rifle Association to reduce school shootings, and that he would develop a tax plan that rich people would not benefit “at all” from.

None of this was true. Critically, none of it was demonstrably false at the time Trump said it. But equally critically, a reasonable person would have known better than to believe in any of it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Who said anything about the truth. They're all fucking crooks and liars.

I just said I voted for him because he was a troll.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You voted for Trump because he is a troll, which is not what a reasonable person would do. Texas Republicans I know voted for their "reasons", none of which had anything to do with Trump being a troll. The Republicans and Trump are reactionaries. FDR, LBJ, JFK were Democrats, Hillary is a Democrat, and anything a Democrat wants ought to be rolled back by reactionaries until we again live in the wonderful days of Warren G Harding. Most of the Republicans don't know Harding from Calvin Coolidge, but they know what they want and it is not a troll. They want the return to the past, the Roaring Twenties, before the Crash of 1929. The beautiful part is that is a vision that can be relatively easy to achieve, at least compared to the hard work of what Democrats want.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



How's this for reasonable, Second?

Go fuck yourself.

You're the one that goes around everyday talking about how rich you are and no matter who wins you win while the 99% loses.

Nobody gives a shit what your opinion is, clown.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:18 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND is a reactionary. Anything that a Republican might do must be rolled back, until we can live in the wonderful days of LBJ.

And, SECOND, before you (once again) misrepresent what I say and put words in my mouth, please re-read my signature lines. With comprehension this time.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

Signym, in real life you know you are failure. I know it, too. But here at fff.net you can play your verbal games, pretend superiority, and escape from reality. It is good for you to escape into fantasy. Trump is also escaping from reality and the dull details of his work failures. The headline story is Trump pardons Dinesh D'Souza -- and hints at more celebrity pardons. Trump is playing silly games at his work place, too. Probably to distract himself from his job. Too bad he can't be terminated for incompetence or inattention to detail.
www.cnn.com/2018/05/31/politics/trump-dinesh-dsouza-pardon/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Is anybody else just really annoyed by the way Second does that thing he does?

I don't have to explain it. He does it with every single post.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 4:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND is a troll. And it IS pretty annoying!

Of course, I did needle SECOND on purpose, pointing out his habit of straw-manning and general lack of comprehension, so I guess it's not surprising that he lashed out.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 5:13 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND is a troll. And it IS pretty annoying!

Of course, I did needle SECOND on purpose, pointing out his habit of straw-manning and general lack of comprehension, so I guess it's not surprising that he lashed out.


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

Signym, do you remember posting this?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62134&mid=10537
35#1053735


Signym, you are seriously deranged. Now don’t deny you are crazy because everything you write, and you write beautifully, leaks crazy brain fluid on fff.net. When a Trump does it, it is perfectly sane – he is appealing to people like you. When you do it, it is simply a crazy failure being themselves. The Trump family knows how to exploit your kind.

Fact Check on Signym’s facts: George Soros, the Thieving Nazi Sympathizer? As Signym insinuates?
www.weeklystandard.com/holmes-lybrand/fact-check-george-soros-the-thie
ving-nazi-sympathizer

I will save you the trouble of clicking the link: Soros was not a Nazi Sympathizer, but he does irritate Republicans.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 5:57 PM

JJ


I think you've upset the trolls SECOND, nice.

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Signym, do you remember posting this? - SECOND

Quote:

In just the hour leading up to her apology on Tuesday, Barr’s tweets and retweets included: references to the viral “QAnon” conspiracy theory, which holds that a senior government official is using 4chan to post clues about pedophiles in the intelligence services plotting against Trump- SECOND

"Dave" of X22 refers to "Q" frequently; and he spins some pretty fantastic predictions based on Q's posts. It's tempting to reject them out of hand, but there's a problem: his most outrageous predictions, based on Qannon posts, DO seem to come true. Or at least they have so far.- SIGNY


A blog post claiming that Obama had directed the CIA to spy on Trump’s campaign- SECOND

There is evidence that this might have happened. One of Strzok's texts said "the WH [White House] is running this thing" If "this thing" refers to Operation Crossfire Hurricane, then the WH DID direct the FBI to spy one Trump's campaign. However, Congress needs the unredacted texts, which the FBI refuses to turn over.- SIGNY

Lies about the philanthropist George Soros having collaborated with the Nazis - SECOND

During WWII, George Soros was sent to live with a Nazi family by his Jewish father, and he went around with/ assisted his foster father INVENTORYING THE POSSESSIONS OF JEWS so that the Nazi government could confiscate it. Soros himself talked about it.



And claims that he was scheming to undermine democracy in cahoots with Chelsea Clinton;- SECOND

I don't know about Chelsea, but I DO know that Soros funds some NGOs like the NED and Open Society, which work hand-in-glove with the State Department, the CIA, and AID, to destabilize and overthrow democratically governments that our deep state doesn't like. I can get you links if you like.- SIGNY

Another attempt to smear Jarret by claiming that her mother was an anti-American communist; and an impassioned defense of Tommy Robinson, a far-right English nationalist who was jailed for contempt of court in Britain after using Facebook to harass and smear British Muslims.- SECOND

Not following these stories, but since her other tweets have truth in them, these might be at least partially true too.- SIGNY


Of course I remember posting them, and not only did I post them but I brought up evidence... actual evidence, including a real live interview with Soros about his involvement with Nazis in WWII.
So?

Quote:

Signym, you are seriously deranged. Now don’t deny you are crazy because everything you write, and you write beautifully, leaks crazy brain fluid on fff.net. - SEOCND
Well, since you resorted to name-calling, I guess I hit a nerve! But let me turn it around to say that everything YOU post reeks of denial.

Quote:

When a Trump does it, it is perfectly sane – he is appealing to people like you. When you do it, it is simply a crazy failure being themselves. The Trump family knows how to exploit your kind.- SECOND
Tsk tsk! Name-calling, again??

Quote:

Fact Check on Signym’s facts: George Soros, the Thieving Nazi Sympathizer? As Signym insinuates?
As George Soros himself described. DID you watch the video?

Quote:

I will save you the trouble of clicking the link: Soros was not a Nazi Sympathizer, but he does irritate Republicans.- SECOND
I guess you're saying that Soros lied about himself?

Soros is an interesting character. In interview, he said that his personality was formed during that time. He said that he helped confiscate Jewish property, but then later said that he had "no role", but in between those statements, he said that if he wasn't doing it (confiscating property) then someone else would. He also said he felt NO GUILT about what he did.

I think what he MEANT to say was not that he didn't have any "role", but that he didn't have any decision-making capacity in the process, that in the face of overwhelming evil one does what one must to survive. However, my impression is that the personality that was forged during that time was a very amoral one. Not a Nazi "sympathizer", but a short-term collaborator and a creep.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:02 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Tsk tsk! Name-calling, again??

Quote:

Fact Check on Signym’s facts: George Soros, the Thieving Nazi Sympathizer? As Signym insinuates?
As George Soros himself described. DID you watch the video?

Quote:

I will save you the trouble of clicking the link: Soros was not a Nazi Sympathizer, but he does irritate Republicans.- SECOND
I guess you're saying that Soros lied about himself?

Signym, who peddles the “George Soros was a Nazi” conspiracy relies on a 60 Minutes interview with Soros from 1998. During the interview, Soros was asked if he “helped in the confiscation of the property from the Jews” to which he responded “yes, that’s right.” Later on in that same line of questioning, Soros says that he “was only a spectator” and “had no role in taking away that property.”

Claims that Soros was a Nazi sympathizer or that he helped “round up Jewish people” and stole “their wealth” are quite inaccurate.

Signym, you never accepted being called a Russian Troll, RT for short. There are advantages: RT has purpose. RT is serving their country. RT will receive a medal from Putin. Not likely, but possible. The alternative, that Signym is not RT, is sad, in the words of Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Claims that Soros was a Nazi sympathizer or that he helped “round up Jewish people”
Inaccurate
Quote:

and stole “their wealth”
Helped Nazis do the stealing, under duress, partially true.

SECOND, you claimed that
Quote:

George Soros having collaborated with the Nazis
was "lie". We weren't discussing whether or not he "helped round up Jews" or was "Nazi sympathizer". If you had made THOSE claims, then I would have said that they were inaccurate. But that wasn't your point. Soros, by his words, helped Nazis steal Jewish assets. That is called "collaboration". For any normal person, it would have been traumatic, but not for George Soros!


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Claims that Soros was a Nazi sympathizer or that he helped “round up Jewish people”
Inaccurate
Quote:

and stole “their wealth”
Helped Nazis do the stealing, under duress, partially true.

SECOND, you claimed that
Quote:

George Soros having collaborated with the Nazis
was "lie". We weren't discussing whether or not he "helped round up Jews" or was "Nazi sympathizer". If you had made THOSE claims, then I would have said that they were inaccurate. But that wasn't your point. Soros, by his words, helped Nazis steal Jewish assets. That is called "collaboration". For any normal person, it would have been traumatic, but not for George Soros!


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876



He might be the Original SJW. He's certainly the most powerful and influential one.

All that guilt...

And unlike all the kids that come out of college with their Leftist brainwashing, he actually has something to feel guilty about.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:28 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


TROLLS, as quoted from the video

Quote:

They've lost the argument ...
They don't want to have real debates ...

They want to have instead a bunch of spectacles. Because spectacles are all about emotion, they're not about rationality, they're not about logic, and they're certainly not about evidence



Wow, you're right SIX! THUGR certainly knows about trolls because he IS one!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Friday, June 1, 2018 8:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Claims that Soros was a Nazi sympathizer or that he helped “round up Jewish people”
Inaccurate
Quote:

and stole “their wealth”
Helped Nazis do the stealing, under duress, partially true.

SECOND, you claimed that
Quote:

George Soros having collaborated with the Nazis
was "lie". We weren't discussing whether or not he "helped round up Jews" or was "Nazi sympathizer". If you had made THOSE claims, then I would have said that they were inaccurate. But that wasn't your point. Soros, by his words, helped Nazis steal Jewish assets. That is called "collaboration". For any normal person, it would have been traumatic, but not for George Soros!


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

Republicans and Signym make false accusations against Soros, since they hate him, because he looks to be one hundred and eight years old. He is so ancient, he must have been a Nazi. But at time of the Nazis, Soros was eight years old. No, Signym, you picked the wrong Soros to accuse of working for the Nazis. Find another one that was an adult during WWII.

How did George Soros become the favorite boogeyman of the right?
www.businessinsider.com/how-did-george-soros-become-the-favorite-booge
yman-of-the-right-2017-5


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, June 1, 2018 9:31 AM

JJ


Trump’s pardons are nothing but right-wing trolling

On Thursday, President Trump announced that he is pardoning conservative pundit and author Dinesh D’Souza, who pled guilty in 2014 to violating campaign-finance laws. Unlike other presidents who used their pardon power to correct injustices, Trump has used it almost exclusively to dole out favors to the right wing.

That Trump decided to pardon D’Souza, one of the most despicable and poisonous figures in American public life, is further proof that this president spends a good deal of his time acting like a right-wing Internet troll whose greatest pleasure in life comes from finding ways to Trigger the Libs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/05/31/trumps-pa
rdons-are-nothing-but-right-wing-trolling/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.22e685d6cc62


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Friday, June 1, 2018 10:14 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Republicans and Signym make false accusations against Soros
SECOND makes up false accusations against SIGNY because SECOND has lost the argument as well as his mind. SIGNY only refers to Soros' own words to describe what happened in Hungary when he was 14.

Quote:

But at time of the Nazis, Soros was eight years old.
Huh. You seem to be claiming that Nazism was a one-year phenomenon! HA! At the time the Nazis came to power IN GERMANY, Soros was eight, but by the time they moved INTO HUNGARY Soros was older, and at the time that Soros himself was describing, he was already 14.

Did you even READ the link that YOU posted??? Yanno. the "fact checking" one? It reads, in part...

Quote:

When the Nazi regime began occupying Hungary in 1944, he was 13.
Not "a toddler, and not eight.

Quote:

During the later part of this tumultuous time, George went for a few weeks to live with a government official whose duty it was to take inventory of Hungarian Jews who had been divested of their estates. The official was not only helping to protect Soros but also his own Jewish wife.

Soros’s biographer and his father’s account both confirm that George went along for one of these inventory trips in Budapest, assuming the role as “godson” to the official. While Tivadar claims in his autobiography that George “even helped with the inventory” the biography of Soros by Michael Kaufman suggests that Soros did not assist with the inventory.

So the adult who was present says George helped with the inventory

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All of this occurred while George Soros, a Jew, was hiding under a false identity as a young teenager in Nazi-occupied Hungary. As other fact checkers have noted, this is the only account of anything relating to George Soros and the inventory of dispossessed Jews.
Yes, from people who were there at the time, whose descriptions overlap.

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Many who peddle the “George Soros was a Nazi” conspiracy rely on a 60 Minutes interview with Soros from 1998. During the interview, Soros was asked if he “helped in the confiscation of the property from the Jews” to which he responded “yes, that’s right.” Later on in that same line of questioning, Soros says that he “was only a spectator” and “had no role in taking away that property.”


So, let's say that you have a Yazidi boy who has lived under the threat of ISIS since he was eight, and under ISIS occupation since he was 13, pretending to be a faithful takfiri. When he's 14, he helps pack explosives for IEDs or suicide vests for a few weeks, which are destined to kill Yazidis. Still pretending to be a faithful takfiri. Later, when he is interviewed, he claims to have NO GUILT WHATSOEVER about his role in participating in the exploitation of his own people and indeed appears to be quite untroubled by the event.

Sympathizer? Collaborator? Natural-born or made-sociopath? Victim? All of the above? Something else?

It's not what Soros "did" that's troubling; after all, most people don't have the strength of conviction to fight an overwhelmingly powerful entity, and sometimes the best that they can do is minimal, grudging participation. It's Soros' reaction that seems kinda creepy.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 10:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What I have been saying all along: STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT TRUMP SAYS.

It is NO MORE ACCURATE THAN WHAT OBAMA SAID, AND NO MORE ACCURATE THAN WHAT GWB SAID. The only difference is Obama was soothing and sleep-inducing and GWB wound you up and ready to go to war(!), but Trump makes your head explode. But at least you won't be asleep thru the Trump administration!

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Friday, June 1, 2018 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Sympathizer? Collaborator? Natural-born or made-sociopath? Victim? All of the above? Something else?

Signym, you are full speed ahead crazy.

How did George Soros become the favorite boogeyman of the Right?
www.businessinsider.com/how-did-george-soros-become-the-favorite-booge
yman-of-the-right-2017-5

George Soros is the enemy of choice of despots. It is no surprise that Putin, Trump, and Signym hate Soros.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 5:57 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself being a despot.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 8:42 PM

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Second and Soros are cut from the same cloth.

"The problem with America is its wealthy elite."

Yeah, but not Second though. His heart goes out to all those flooded people in Texas. Not any of his money though.


Come to think of it, he doesn't really mention any of the people who got screwed all that much, does he? Every post seems to be much more focused on those doing the screwing. Almost makes you wonder how much skin he has in that game.

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 12:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Claims that Soros was a Nazi sympathizer or that he helped “round up Jewish people”
Inaccurate
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and stole “their wealth”
Helped Nazis do the stealing, under duress, partially true.

SECOND, you claimed that
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George Soros having collaborated with the Nazis
was "lie". We weren't discussing whether or not he "helped round up Jews" or was "Nazi sympathizer". If you had made THOSE claims, then I would have said that they were inaccurate. But that wasn't your point. Soros, by his words, helped Nazis steal Jewish assets. That is called "collaboration". For any normal person, it would have been traumatic, but not for George Soros!

Republicans and Signym make false accusations against Soros, since they hate him, because he looks to be one hundred and eight years old. He is so ancient, he must have been a Nazi. But at time of the Nazis, Soros was eight years old. No, Signym, you picked the wrong Soros to accuse of working for the Nazis. Find another one that was an adult during WWII.

How stupid have you devolved to? Are you incapable of reading anything real?
The George Soros who admitted collaborating with Nazis against Jews in that interview was 13 in 1944 when he was doing this.
Which other George Soros are you talking about? Or do you not have a clue what you are talking about, or what your Spokestard was talking about?
Or are you claiming that from 1939-1945 Nazis would on some days not be Nazis? Is this some family secret passed down from the Nazis in your family?

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 12:16 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself being a despot.

Post of the week.

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 3:15 AM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The George Soros who admitted collaborating with Nazis against Jews in that interview was 13 in 1944 when he was doing this.

By definition, and by his own description, Soros was a collaborator. However ...
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's not what Soros "did" that's troubling; after all, most people don't have the strength of conviction to fight an overwhelmingly powerful entity, and sometimes the best that they can do is minimal, grudging participation. It's Soros' reaction that seems kinda creepy.




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 8:22 AM

JJ


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Sympathizer? Collaborator? Natural-born or made-sociopath? Victim? All of the above? Something else?

Signym, you are full speed ahead crazy.

How did George Soros become the favorite boogeyman of the Right?
www.businessinsider.com/how-did-george-soros-become-the-favorite-booge
yman-of-the-right-2017-5

George Soros is the enemy of choice of despots. It is no surprise that Putin, Trump, and Signym hate Soros.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]



What we have here SECOND is many years worth of SIG posting fake news stories. These threads are full of SIG's attempts to troll the truth.

Now there is one untruth she has managed to get some here to believe. That she is well to do. I've been posting here for years. Now when I ask myself if she ever posts the truth and the answer is no, then her being well to do to me is just one more lie.

She's a Russian troll, nothing more.

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 8:34 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The George Soros who admitted collaborating with Nazis against Jews in that interview was 13 in 1944 when he was doing this.

By definition, and by his own description, Soros was a collaborator. However ...
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:




So was kiki's father. A collaborator I mean. That's why he was kicked out of Poland and then England.

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 8:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Sympathizer? Collaborator? Natural-born or made-sociopath? Victim? All of the above? Something else?

Signym, you are full speed ahead crazy.

How did George Soros become the favorite boogeyman of the Right?
www.businessinsider.com/how-did-george-soros-become-the-favorite-booge
yman-of-the-right-2017-5

George Soros is the enemy of choice of despots. It is no surprise that Putin, Trump, and Signym hate Soros.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]



What we have here SECOND is many years worth of SIG posting fake news stories. These threads are full of SIG's attempts to troll the truth.

Now there is one untruth she has managed to get some here to believe. That she is well to do. I've been posting here for years. Now when I ask myself if she ever posts the truth and the answer is no, then her being well to do to me is just one more lie.

She's a Russian troll, nothing more.

T




Nothing signy ever posted here got me to believe the facts about Soros. They're well documented, and there are mountains of evidence.

I don't even understand why you would deny these facts.

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 8:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Now there is one untruth she has managed to get some here to believe. That she is well to do. - THUGR
Dood! I never claimed to be "well to do". In fact, I have posted the opposite. So if you have that idea, then you got that without any evidence at all ... like you get all of your other screwy ideas. OTOH, I'm not a "failure" either. I'm in that weird middle, called the "vanishing middle class".

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 9:11 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'd like to get back to the philosophical underpinnings of why I called Soros a "despot".

This individual has more money than about 60 nations' GDPs, and he is spending it to "create" or "enforce" the kind of society HE wants to see, and quite frankly it doesn't seem to matter to him what the people under his influence want.

Without getting into a discussion about whether what George wants is a "good idea" or not, this enormous imbalance of power itself is "despotism". And while different elite individuals (such as George) may advocate different things ... some think that we need more "democracy" and others think we need more "population control" ... I have yet to see ANY of them advocate for a change of rules that would destroy THEIR concentration of wealth and power.

I find that "do-gooders" and "philanthropists" enjoy their positions of power very much. So while they may advocate for "color revolution" and their less-well-to-do followers might concentrate under the banner of "R2P", they will never advocate for a system where their outsized "charity" would become UNNECESSARY, because that means that they would lose their position of influence and power.

There's a kind of "one ring" logic to "philanthropy", and that is in order to do much "good", one must have much "power", and this imbalance of power creates the very problems that they are trying to "solve".

Which is why my signature says ...

Pity would be no more,
If we did MAKE men poor


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Saturday, June 2, 2018 10:11 AM

JJ


The Russians are at it again. USA Really online appears to be the same trolls who work out of the same St. Petersburg building.


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Saturday, June 2, 2018 10:18 AM

JJ


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself being a despot.

Post of the week.



Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.

How about you show us the part in the story about how Soros stole billions SIG.


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Saturday, June 2, 2018 12:11 PM

SECOND

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'd like to get back to the philosophical underpinnings of why I called Soros a "despot".

Would you, now? As if anyone but you believes your insights. Nobody believes you when you write: I find that "do-gooders" and "philanthropists" enjoy their positions of power very much. . . . Signym, you have no believable experience with either do-gooders or philantropists. Why not talk about Trump? Remember this thread title: Trump is a Troll.

Yesterday's headline was Mom of Texas shooting victim says talking with Trump was 'like talking to a toddler' (Too bad that 'Mom' didn't call him a troll, but toddler is close enough. Mom has direct experience with Trump, while Signym has nothing with Soros.)
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/06/01/trump-meets
-texas-shooting-victims/664191002
/

Trump spent more than an hour with people who lost family members and the survivors of the May 18 shooting at a Texas high school that left 10 dead and more than a dozen wounded.


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Saturday, June 2, 2018 12:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.- IDIOT

Hey stupid, READ THE STORY. There is NOTHING in there about the Euro. It's not even mentioned once. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you just make shit up because you're a troll, or are you really that stupid?

Quote:

How about you show us the part in the story about how Soros stole billions SIG. - IDIOT


Here it is: The TITLE of the article is
Quote:

The man who broke the Bank of England
and the reference to that event is
Quote:

Mr Soros, who operates one of the world's biggest private investment funds, is famous for having made $1bn by betting on the devaluation of the pound sterling in 1992.
Reading not your "thing"? Like I said: What the hell is wrong with you?



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 12:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Why not talk about Trump?- SECOND
Well, as I recall, YOU were the one who brought up Soros and then went on and on and on defending a point that you clearly had no knowledge of.

So fine, let's just admit that you were wrong about that particular item and move on to talking about Trump.

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 1:44 PM

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[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Why not talk about Trump?- SECOND
Well, as I recall, YOU were the one who brought up Soros and then went on and on and on defending a point that you clearly had no knowledge of.

So fine, let's just admit that you were wrong about that particular item and move on to talking about Trump.



Yup. I'm clearly not understanding the defending of Soros that is taking place here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 1:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself being a despot.

Post of the week.

Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.

How about you show us the part in the story about how Soros stole billions SIG.

T


Here we have the self-proclaimed mostest bestest smartest informed Libtard around.
But this Troll does not have the slightest smidgen of a clue about common knowledge. No clue how Soros stole his millions. No clue how to look up any Facts in the Real World. No clue how to search for the basic information that everybody else can find. He must be spoon-fed every minor morsel of Truth or Fact, multiple times, before he regurgitates the newfound data as his own original idea.
If he had never been spoon-fed the info that Earth was not Flat, he'd still think the Sun Rose in the South on most days.

This tard truly is, and always has been, the future and trajectory of the Libtard movement.

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 2:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Why not talk about Trump?- SECOND
Well, as I recall, YOU were the one who brought up Soros and then went on and on and on defending a point that you clearly had no knowledge of.

So fine, let's just admit that you were wrong about that particular item and move on to talking about Trump.

Yup. I'm clearly not understanding the defending of Soros that is taking place here.

Pretty simple. Second is wrong, as usual. And with his/her FACTS Vaccination is able to defend any obvious wrong, myth, fantasy, or other Libtard belief til the end.

And Siggy pointed out the fact that, once second posts another lie from his neverending lists of lies, everybody else should accept the obvious lie without dispute, and then forget that second presented the lie, and that all of Second's premises are built upon nothing but lies that he can't even keep track of.

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 2:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Reposting this pretty good post, but correcting the misattributed quotes.


Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself...SIG



Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.- IDIOT

Hey stupid, READ THE STORY. There is NOTHING in there about the Euro. It's not even mentioned once. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you just make shit up because you're a troll, or are you really that stupid?

Quote:

How about you show us the part in the story about how Soros stole billions SIG. - IDIOT

Here it is: The TITLE of the article is
Quote:

The man who broke the Bank of England
and the reference to that event is
Quote:

Mr Soros, who operates one of the world's biggest private investment funds, is famous for having made $1bn by betting on the devaluation of the pound sterling in 1992.
Reading not your "thing"? Like I said: What the hell is wrong with you?

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 3:42 PM

JJ


George Soros did not collaborate with the Nazis. He did not help round people up. He did not confiscate anyone's property.

When Jews in his native Budapest were being rounded up and killed by the Nazis, my grandfather Tivadar Soros saved many lives including his own family by securing false identity papers and helping put Jews into hiding. Among those he helped was the wife of an official of the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture. In exchange, my grandfather asked the official to hide my father and pretend he was his godson.

The official's duties included taking inventory of the estate of a Jewish family that had fled earlier under duress and he took my then 13-year-old father with him. This story is also told in my grandfather's memoir of surviving the Holocaust, "Masquerade: The Incredible True Story of How George Soros' Father Outsmarted the Gestapo."

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/roseanne-barr-lies-insult-george-so
ros-holocaust-survivors-article-1.4016067


It's well documented here that SIG hates Jews. So is her attacking one a surprise to anyone? Crawl back under your rock SIG.

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 4:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


The one thing I wish people would stop talking about when it comes to Soros is any supposed Nazi affiliation in his past, whether under duress or not.

At best, it's a red herring, at worst, it's reason for somebody to doubt other very legitimate and very provable claims about what a monster he actually is.


I don't understand anybody's attempt to try to link him to Nazism. It doesn't do anything to bolster an argument against Soros, and you don't have to go nearly back as far as World War II to see the truly horrible things this man has done and continues to do.


STOP USING THE WORD NAZIS PEOPLE.

That means you reading this. That means everyone.


If you use the word Nazi in a sentence, you've already lost the argument.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 2, 2018 9:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.- IDIOT

Hey stupid, READ THE STORY. There is NOTHING in there about the Euro. It's not even mentioned once. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you just make shit up because you're a troll, or are you really that stupid?

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How about you show us the part in the story about how Soros stole billions SIG. - IDIOT


Here it is: The TITLE of the article is
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The man who broke the Bank of England
and the reference to that event is
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Mr Soros, who operates one of the world's biggest private investment funds, is famous for having made $1bn by betting on the devaluation of the pound sterling in 1992.
Reading not your "thing"? Like I said: What the hell is wrong with you?



Reading comprehension is not a skill you pocess stupid. It says Soros made a billion by betting on the devaluation of the pound. In other words stupid, he invested his money with that in mind. What a ass you are. You're quoted at the top suggesting to SECOND he stole the money.

T


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