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Tales from the LOOP - Amazon Prime

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UPDATED: Monday, May 4, 2020 18:28
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Monday, April 13, 2020 4:52 PM

AURAPTOR

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Trying to like this, but it's just not happening. Story basically is a Eureka type town where work centers on something called ' The Loop '. A super advanced sciency community where strange forces and curious machines are found intertwined w/ this small community.

The problem I'm having ( 3 eps into it so far ) is that there's some decent scenarios they're trying to set up, but they just aren't selling it. Primarily, it's BORING! The stories are convoluted and frankly don't make sense.

" Hey, lets do this really stupid thing and tell no one ! "
" Umm, ok. I'm game "
Plan goes horribly wrong
" Hey, let's keep doing this, because... "
" Umm, sure, why not. I guess. "

Everything fun and exciting and smart that was Eureka, this show isn't.

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Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:59 PM

MALICIOUS


I watched the first episode the other night. It was okay. Literally a few minutes ago (like 6 or 7) I was contemplating watching ep2 and just couldn't make myself do it...I may watch it later or may not. But seeing your post made me realize, it just didn't grab my imagination. I don't expect every show to be like Firefly or Supernatural, but it could at least TRY, you know?



Mal-licious

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Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:23 PM

AURAPTOR

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Visually it's intriguing. I like the odd sciency objects which appear out of the landscape randomly, and the Stranger Things sort of vibe it's giving, but 3 eps in and I'm still looking for any substance to these characters.

Yeah, Ep. 1 was kinda interesting, but it felt as a Twilight Zone one off, and not the start of a series I'd like to come back to, again and again.

see Expanse, The Boys, Firefly?

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Sunday, April 19, 2020 1:08 AM

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Ok, in for a penny, in for a pound. Might as well plow through and finish this stuff.

I've come to the conclusion that since there's only 8 eps, character development isn't a priority. It's just one short story after another, from a different but sorta kinda related point of view from the other eps.

Small town, so we see a few folks over and over again. But in the next ep, we'll see the world from their point of view, and not just as a brief encounter, like from the earlier ep.

This is Eureka meets Black Mirror. But less intense, not much of any ' horror '. Just long, sullen pauses, followed by a interesting science scene, and then more sullen pauses.

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Sunday, April 19, 2020 9:48 PM

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My god, this is THE most plodding, depressing , joyless series I've encountered in my life. Maybe since 6 Feet Under, from what I can remember …

Every single male on this show is a true beta. Indecisive, timid, lacking any sort of a backbone or drive to … not a single one! And the women aren't portrayed any better.

Long dopey silences followed by shoulder shrugs and blank stares. Every single " problem " in this series so far could have been avoided or fixed if someone simply had the stones or 1/2 a brain to SAY SOMETHING!!!! . It's infuriatingly BAD and lazy writing.

Select to view spoiler:


One episode, the father of the boy who swapped minds w/ his friend and then ended up a vegetable, is trying to keep his family together. One subplot is that the breaker box in the house keeps tripping, and eventually gives out. His solution? Buy a AT-AT robot, which is called a ' junker ' to act as some sort of home defense. Only there's no A.I. w/ this robot. It's totally manually operated. Which means he has to stand at attention, with that AT-AT thingy next to him, in plain view of the entire neighborhood. So the junker , which probably cost him several 1000 grand, was HIS response to trying to protect his home. Instead , for that much money, he could have fixed the breaker box, installed motion activated flood lights, changed the locks... and even possibly gotten a decent home security system and a freaking gun too!

And that's just ONE substory from ONE episode! It's all like this!!



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Monday, April 20, 2020 10:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Sounds terrible.

Unless you're going full Anthology like Black Mirror, character development is always the number one priority. Even in a show like Black Mirror they usually do a pretty good job with character development in the short amount of time they have, but the story itself is always the main character.

Eureka was a great show, but that was because you immediately connected with the well written and acted characters. Obviously, Firefly had that in spades too.


Make a list of your top 10 most loved and top 10 most hated shows, and 9 out of 10 on both lists will be where they are because of the character development. Maybe 10 out of 10. If you don't care about the characters, you just don't care at all.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 21, 2020 12:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Oh, and funny you mention stupid behavior by characters ruining a show too. Shows (like Eureka) can look past this because you like the characters and the town and despite all the bad stuff happening you actually want to be there.

But what happens when you make a show about a bad situation with characters who have zero charisma and also make really stupid choices?

FanboyFlicks' Mark has the answer to that:




It's unfortunate they did such a bad job writing characters for this show too. In the right hands I think the premise could have made a great series.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 21, 2020 8:40 PM

AURAPTOR

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Never heard of this one, but it looks like a decent premise that's been shot to hell because of bad, lazy writing.

Just like Game of Thrones, West World, Dr. Who, Star Trek Picard, Star Trek Discovery, Tales from the Loop, etc...


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Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Game of Thrones wasn't ruined like a lot of the others that you mentioned though, was it? I didn't get a sense from talk that it went woke. It was just a terrible final season is all, right?

It doesn't sound like I-Land was a woke problem either. It would be more in the same category as Tales from the Loop.

We probably shouldn't lump them all together in the same heap. There's a huge difference between lazy writing with bad characters and flat out destroying a show with an agenda.

:)


To me, the saddest part about I-Land is that Kate Bosworth got old.

Not going to say she was the most beautiful girl in Hollywood, but there aren't many that topped her.



Those eyes are awesome.


"Facts" online will say that 6 out of every 1,000 people have it hetrochromia, but there's no real stats on the startling difference that she's got. One in a million maybe?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:59 PM

AURAPTOR

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First of all, yes, GoT was ruined. Undeniably. Among THE worst collapses of a series in the history of T.V. viewing. Dave and Dan had no clue what they were doing, and when George stopped holding their hands and telling them what to do next, ( because he hasn't finished the books, and likely never will ) they were on their own. And it showed.

Secondly, I never said anything about Tales from the Loop being destroyed because of it going woke. As I said - It's just bad. Lazy writing. Poor plots and characters who make ridiculous choices.

Just like we saw in I-land.

And those other shows, the list of woke disasters, they all suffered from lazy writing as well. That's what happens when you're trying to insert an agenda into a story which had already been established and there's simply no rhyme or reason for there to be gender swaps, race swaps, deconstructing of canon or the dressing down of well known male characters ( Luke Skywalker, Jean Luc Picard, T-800, or Dr. Who ) simply as a means to elevate some fraking Mary Sue character.


** And as for Kate... I can't say I am familiar w/ her work. None of the shows ring a bell for me. I guess maybe I've heard the name, but she's never really been on my radar. Nothing against her, mind you, she's nice enough looking, but I got nothing.

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Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Yeah. That's what I thought I had heard about GoT, and also what I was picking up from your review of LOOP. I-Land certainly looked like a diverse cast, but at least from Mark's review that wasn't part of any of its many flaws (I mean, he didn't bring that up at all... But then again, he's not one of the channels on YouTube that makes any point of doing so).



As for the "woke" shows, I don't know if I would agree that they suffered from lazy writing. Bad writing, certainly, but probably not lazy. They worked very hard to press their agendas into the shows. Especially shows that were already established. I would imagine it takes a lot of work to destroy those shows with bad writing and to sacrifice any built up good will they had among their existing fan base to push an agenda.

I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong and it's lazy too. I'll be the first to admit that I haven't actually seen any of the woke bullshit. The last Star Wars property I watched was Episode II, and that was just bad and I tuned out by the time Episode III was released.





***I had a big crush on Kate Bosworth back in those days. I first saw her in Wonderland with Val Kilmer back in the early 2000's. She's the only reason I would have sat through a movie titled "Win a Date with Tad Hamilton". She was also a huge upgrade in the Looks Department to Lois Lane's character in Superman Returns over Margot Kidder. The last thing I ever saw her in before Mark's review of I-Land was Kevin Spacey's 21, where she still looked amazing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 24, 2020 5:42 PM

AURAPTOR

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Wanna talk lazy WOKE ass writing ?

Take the Disney SW sequels. First , Rey was an absolute nobody. We were told, that SHE was the daughter of low life parents, drunks, nobodies in the galaxy. It was meant to show that the true greatness of THE FORCE could fall on anyone, not just a precious few heralded blood lines, like royalty. If SHE could be special, anyone could!

Nope! WRONG! Turns out, Rey was the offspring ( in some laughably convoluted manner ) of the Sithiest Sith Lord of them all, Darth ' The Emperor ' Sidious.

This is the very definition of lazy writing!!

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Friday, April 24, 2020 8:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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That was also a tale of far too many cooks in the kitchen.

Aside from the woke marketing and agendas inserted into the story, I'd just blame Disney for not giving two fucks about the franchise after buying it.

I think they worked pretty hard to destroy Star Wars. I don't think that was an easy thing to do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 28, 2020 11:19 PM

AURAPTOR

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Without a doubt, the most slow, depressing, joyless, and unclever sci fi I think I’ve ever witnessed. But perhaps the worst part about it was that Jodie Foster was involved. She directed this mess, and for the life of me I cannot understand what the point was. Slow, plodding , without any spark of humanity or enlightenment.

I don’t think there was one positive or uplifting twist, conclusion, or revelation in eight freaking episodes.

Just one long drawn out, slow pan or extended blank stare after another.

I’m gonna stay away from sharp objects for a couple of days, just in case I get any ideas.

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Monday, May 4, 2020 3:06 PM

OLDGUY

What Would Mal do ?


thanks guys... I didn't even get through all of Ep1..was wondering if I was missing something...but..then..it's Amazon production..they produce with ...well...with other intent

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Monday, May 4, 2020 6:28 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Hey, The Expanse is as good ( if not better ) than any sci-fi as you'll find anywhere out there now. Hell, as good as anything ANYWHERE. That's Amazon.

And up until the last episode, Man in the High Castle was really damn good too.

To be honest, I would have expected far better from Jodie Foster. Maybe I'm just naïve like that.

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