Superman reboot by 6ixStringJack

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

The reason why this movie cannot match past movie ticket sales is because Superman [2025] is available for free. Why drive miles to a stinking theater, pay $11.75 plus 8.25% sales tax for each ticket, plus over priced snacks? And you don’t know when movies start because of all the advertisement before the show. You do know that you will have no control over when.
https://baytown.showbizcinemas.com/movie/superman

Here is the link you need to download the show.
Bittorrent Link: D78492E6550EE3CAB4790ECBC091E563B7A60E09
You will need a bittorrent client to download Superman. I use a free one https://www.qbittorrent.org/

The official trailer starts exactly where the movie begins.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 12, 2025 6:11 PM

Shut up, faggot.

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Saturday, July 12, 2025 10:30 PM

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Shut up, faggot.

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Other copies of Superman have arrived. Don’t see it in theaters. See it on your TV!

https://yts.mx/movies/superman-2025

Superman (2025) [720p] [YTS.MX]
Bittorrent Link: 380C050DCB40DAF5AB018E9825850328F26E321C

Superman (2025) [1080p] [YTS.MX]
Bittorrent Link: 1E4443E10E3A714D05B0AB5993F2C424F07508CA

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Saturday, July 12, 2025 10:30 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Shut up, faggot.

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Can Superman Win the Culture War?

A right-wing backlash erupted when James Gunn described the hero of his new film as an “immigrant” who models “kindness." But the Man of Steel has faced these attacks before—going back to 85 years.

By Anthony Breznican | July 11, 2025

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/superman-backlash

Have you gotten a load of this new Superman? He’s an obnoxious do-gooder, meddles in international affairs to stop wars from happening, and isn’t even really from here. That sums up the Fox News–stoked media uproar that’s already swirling around James Gunn’s new take on the DC hero. It was sparked by a remark the filmmaker made about the hero being an “immigrant” in a movie “that says basic human kindness is a value and is something we have lost.”

Since Gunn has long gone on record saying such things, the Fox News uproar denouncing the film as “superwoke” seems more like fauxtrage than actual outrage. Most of the network’s speculation about the movie is simply incorrect. The hero in Gunn’s Superman does not undertake any kind of left-wing activism, and the movie does not comment on divisive current events from real life. Instead, Corenswet’s Man of Steel could only be accused of overdosing on optimism. He’s explicitly grateful to his adoptive country and planet, and sees it as his mission to safeguard their people—an impossible task even with phenomenal cosmic powers.

“If you tell that story with passion and with earnestness, if you tell an unvarnished story of heroism, then I think it still works,” Bernardin says. “Everybody wants to believe they would do the right thing. Superman is a difficult character to write, to dramatize, because he’s a Boy Scout. But man, that’s what makes him so great.”

The movie itself features some skeptical characters who might find themselves rolling their eyes right along with the Fox News over Superman's moral code.

There’s a rival superhero group—including the techno-genius Mister Terrific (Edi Gathegi), a Green Lantern named Guy Gardner (Nathan Fillion), and the brawler Hawkgirl (Isabela Merced)—that considers Superman a hopeless Pollyanna. When a monstrous kaiju attacks Metropolis, Superman tries to brainstorm ways to safely relocate it rather than destroy it. The other heroes are irked by his attempt at over-the-top altruism.

It’s a stark change from the version of the character Henry Cavill played in director Zack Snyder’s DC films. That Superman was guilt-stricken over the collateral damage from his battles to save the world in 2013’s Man of Steel. Corenswet and Gunn’s Superman, on the other hand, is obsessed with avoiding bystander deaths. He doesn’t kill anyone—not even the flying, militarized henchmen of Nicholas Hoult’s Lex Luthor, who, instead of being obliterated, end up writhing on the ground after their defeat.

“He even rescues a squirrel,” Gross notes. “He scoops up the squirrel and drops it off, and the squirrel’s looking around like, What the hell just happened? Then he goes back to the big battle he was dealing with.”

The central conflict of the new Superman comes down to cynicism vs. idealism. “You are not punk rock,” Rachel Brosnahan’s Lois Lane tells him in one scene. “My point is, I question everything and everyone. You trust everyone and think everyone you’ve ever met is, like, beautiful.”

Clark shrugs. “Maybe that’s the real punk rock,” he says. It’s a cringey line. But that’s the point.

“I think we need it,” says Gross. “Every day I’m faced with a world that seems to be getting worse and worse. The idea of a hero who is hopeful, who is saying things are going to be okay—as corny as that may sound, I can’t think of a better time for this version of Superman.”

Greenberger agrees, which is why he suspects the Fox News outrage will ultimately fizzle. “I doubt it’s going to keep people out of the theaters,” he says. “Kids are going to want to see the movie. Parents may not, but I still expect to see some record numbers this weekend.”

One former Superman has come out against the movie—Dean Cain, star of the ’90s-era TV show Lois & Clark, now an outspoken Donald Trump supporter. “I think that was a mistake by James Gunn to say, you know, it’s an immigrant thing,” he said in a TMZ interview. “And I think it’s gonna hurt the numbers on the movie.”

Cornet holds the most optimistic of beliefs—that the success of this Superman project might nudge the cultural discourse in another direction. After years of indulging antiheroes, she says, audiences are yearning for hope, if only from an escapist popcorn movie.

“The only antidote to where we’re headed is individual people challenging themselves to find the Superman within them,” she says. “‘How do I fix it without being mean, without being cruel, without hating the other side? How do I move forward without dehumanizing someone because they made a vote that I wish they didn’t?’ That’s really the challenge of the moment for us, and what I hope this character would inspire—rather than us just sitting back and going, ‘Wouldn’t it be nice if he showed up?’”

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Sunday, July 13, 2025 2:18 PM

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The New Superman Movie Has an Unlikely Inspiration — and It’s Not Superman

Yes, James Gunn makes the character an “immigrant,” but the real twist comes from his own 2019 horror film, Brightburn.

By Sam Adams | July 13, 2025 10:00 AM

https://slate.com/culture/2025/07/superman-2025-movie-new-james-gunn-b
rightburn-1978.html

. . . That movie is Brightburn, and although Gunn’s name only appears as its producer, it was written by his brothers Brian and Mark and features several actors drawn from his previous projects, including a brief appearance by his wife, Jennifer Holland. (The director, David Yarovesky, also worked with Gunn for more than a decade.) More to the point, the movie’s gruesome, subversive take on superhero mythology is very much in line with the sensibility of Gunn’s early career, before middle age and the success of the Guardians of the Galaxy movies softened his resentments and his penchant for provocation. In Brightburn, a superpowered infant crash-lands outside the home of a kindly Kansas couple, who, like the endless iterations of Ma and Pa Kent before them, take him in and raise him as their own. But the story diverges drastically once the boy hits puberty, and his impulses turn dark, and, in every sense, uncontrollable. This version of the character was sent not to save Earth but to conquer it. One night, he hears strange sounds coming from the family’s barn, where the spaceship that carried him has been, like the true nature of his parentage, hidden away for years. The jagged, twisted hunk of metal pulses with a dark-red light, along with an ominous, snarling voice that eventually resolves into a three-word command: Take the world.

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Sunday, July 13, 2025 11:33 PM

Wasn't thinking about seeing this movie as I am not a big Superman fan. X-Men is more my thing. But with Nathan being in it I might give it a go.

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Monday, July 14, 2025 12:25 AM

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Wasn't thinking about seeing this movie as I am not a big Superman fan. X-Men is more my thing. But with Nathan being in it I might give it a go.

Did you see that bowl cut? It's ridiculous. I didn't even know that was Nathan or that he was in the movie until I saw something about it yesterday. I'd seen some clips of that movie and I thought they hired some British actor to play one of the characters. He looks like a Rugby player from the 1980's.

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Monday, July 14, 2025 12:32 AM

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The New Superman Movie Has an Unlikely Inspiration — and It’s Not Superman

Yes, James Gunn makes the character an “immigrant,” but the real twist comes from his own 2019 horror film, Brightburn.

This immigrant "issue" is just such a dumb and laughable argument from anybody on either side.

If ever there were a textbook definition of an Illegal Alien, it would be Superman.

There's a few differences here between Superman and the tens of millions of illegals that your party has let in that we're in the process of finally removing though, besides the fact that one is a fictional character and the tens of millions are very, very real.

The number one difference, of course, is that he is powerful enough to do whatever the hell he wants, whenever the hell he wants. And if anybody on earth had a problem with it, they don't have any way of doing anything about it.

Good thing for us he wasn't found by either of our sets of dysfunctional parents, huh?

And because he's Good, and so long as he remains Good, he brings more to the table than any human being ever possibly could. In a world full of 8 Billion Plus people who are all virtually meaningless and will be completely forgotten about after the last living person who knew them finally passes on, somebody like Superman is worth more than a countless amount of them.

Nobody cares about this issue other than talking heads in the media that are looking to keep us fighting with each other, and extremist degenerates on the fringes of both the right and left wing. This is nothing but the type of shit that keeps "intellectuals" like Paul Krugman and Ed Kilgore up at night, and the type of shit that shaved 5 years off of Kevin Drum's life.

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Monday, July 14, 2025 4:47 AM

ANONYMOUS1

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Wasn't thinking about seeing this movie as I am not a big Superman fan. X-Men is more my thing. But with Nathan being in it I might give it a go.

I’m going to see it too. Love X-Men and Superman. So happy to be able to see Krypto in something besides a cartoon.

And Nathan being in it is great. Do NOT like the haircut and color. Reminds me of the hair cut when Nathan was on Buffy.

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Monday, July 14, 2025 1:27 PM

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Wasn't thinking about seeing this movie as I am not a big Superman fan. X-Men is more my thing. But with Nathan being in it I might give it a go.

Did you see that bowl cut? It's ridiculous. I didn't even know that was Nathan or that he was in the movie until I saw something about it yesterday. I'd seen some clips of that movie and I thought they hired some British actor to play one of the characters. He looks like a Rugby player from the 1980's.

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No, I haven't seen any clips from the movie so I don't know about the bowl hair cut. The picture they show in the cast list could have been taken from "Firefly", "Castle" or even "The Rookie". I looked up the cast list to see who was playing Superman and it shows both Alan and Nathan. So, I knew about Nathan but Alan was a surprise.

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Monday, July 14, 2025 1:30 PM

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Wasn't thinking about seeing this movie as I am not a big Superman fan. X-Men is more my thing. But with Nathan being in it I might give it a go.

I’m going to see it too. Love X-Men and Superman. So happy to be able to see Krypto in something besides a cartoon.

And Nathan being in it is great. Do NOT like the haircut and color. Reminds me of the hair cut when Nathan was on Buffy.

I'll catch it on DVD unless someone offers to take me to see it. No theaters in my city anymore. X-Men, yes but Superman not really. I've seen the movies with Christopher Reeves in them and they were okay. And one other. Nah, never watched the cartoon.

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Monday, July 14, 2025 3:10 PM

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Wasn't thinking about seeing this movie as I am not a big Superman fan. X-Men is more my thing. But with Nathan being in it I might give it a go.

Did you see that bowl cut? It's ridiculous. I didn't even know that was Nathan or that he was in the movie until I saw something about it yesterday. I'd seen some clips of that movie and I thought they hired some British actor to play one of the characters. He looks like a Rugby player from the 1980's.

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No, I haven't seen any clips from the movie so I don't know about the bowl hair cut. The picture they show in the cast list could have been taken from "Firefly", "Castle" or even "The Rookie". I looked up the cast list to see who was playing Superman and it shows both Alan and Nathan. So, I knew about Nathan but Alan was a surprise.

There you go...

That's the most goofy one I've seen so far. It's clearly Nathan now that I know it's him, but when I was just seeing brief shots of this guy, I had no idea.

Alan's in it too, huh? That's cool they got to work together again.

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Monday, July 14, 2025 6:05 PM

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Wasn't thinking about seeing this movie as I am not a big Superman fan. X-Men is more my thing. But with Nathan being in it I might give it a go.

Did you see that bowl cut? It's ridiculous. I didn't even know that was Nathan or that he was in the movie until I saw something about it yesterday. I'd seen some clips of that movie and I thought they hired some British actor to play one of the characters. He looks like a Rugby player from the 1980's.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

No, I haven't seen any clips from the movie so I don't know about the bowl hair cut. The picture they show in the cast list could have been taken from "Firefly", "Castle" or even "The Rookie". I looked up the cast list to see who was playing Superman and it shows both Alan and Nathan. So, I knew about Nathan but Alan was a surprise.

There you go...

That's the most goofy one I've seen so far. It's clearly Nathan now that I know it's him, but when I was just seeing brief shots of this guy, I had no idea.

Alan's in it too, huh? That's cool they got to work together again.

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OMG!

That is just horrible. But yeah that is Nathan by the shape of the face.

Sorry for laughing but that blond cut is just. Yeah.

That's what the cast list shows. And it will be cool.

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Wednesday, July 16, 2025 7:03 PM

Super Dogs now? Hawkgirl is more popular than Hawkman....wasn't there a BlackAdam flop with 'The Rock'. Guy Lantern as a character is kind of irritable but funny, he is supposed to be annoying some sort of Backstreet Boys, Monkees, Beatles, NSync haircut and a cocky Val Kilmer 'Iceman' Kazansky attitude
There is no one single Lantern, there are bunches of them I know 'Hal' from the stupid movie there is also a good animated film with Hal Jordan an old school White Pilot type and there was John Stewart a Black guy in the Justice League toon, there was a guy named Kyle, maybe he was an artist that imagined up green glowing constructs to hit people with..
Supermen, Supergirls, Super Dogs, Super Cats?

This is the most famous punch Batman’s ever thrown
https://www.polygon.com/23569816/batman-best-punch
Why is this the most famous time Batman has punched a Guy

Superman opening Friday

$56,075,491

1st Saturday

$37,606,538 /
$93,716,293

1st Sunday
$31,305,442 /
$125,021,735

1st Monday

$12,901,628 /
$137,923,363

Tuesday July 2025
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1945594392611586111

1. #Superman - $17.12M
2. #JurassicWorldRebirth - $6.87M
3. #F1TheMovie - $2.40M
4. #HowToTrainYourDragon - $1.77M
5. #Elio - $1.06M
6. #LiloAndStitch - $675K
7. #28YearsLater - $510K

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Wednesday, July 16, 2025 9:20 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Alan's in it too, huh? That's cool they got to work together again.

Alan Tudyk plays Superman's robot.

Alan Tudyk has notably portrayed robots in the following films:

• I, Robot (2004): He provided both the voice and motion capture for Sonny, a robot with evolving emotions.

• Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016): He played the droid K-2SO through a combination of voice work and motion capture.

• The Electric State (2025): Tudyk voices Cosmo, a robot who can only speak in catchphrases.

• Superman (2025): He will be voicing Superman Robot #4.

In addition to these film roles, Alan Tudyk has also voiced robot characters in television series like Andor (reprising his role as K-2S0) and Transformers: EarthSpark (as Optimus Prime).

The free copies of Superman [2025] keep getting better and better:

Bittorrent Link: 800515B0F1DF7838CC55077A1A3674BB6FF23E18

https://uindex.org/details.php?id=11389814

How can Hollywood compete with free? Especially with overseas audiences?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, July 16, 2025 9:25 PM

This is what billionaires do with their free time, huh Second?

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 4:35 AM

Spain Box Office

1 #SupermanMovie 867K€/1,75M€
2 #JurassicWorldRebirth 820K€ /9,4M€(-40%)
3 #Elio 400K€/1,17M€
4 #PadreNoHayMásQueUno5 385K€/ 7,32M€
5 #F1TheMovie 280K€/5,43M€
6 #HowToTrainYourDragon 180K€/ 12,44M€
7 #LiloYStitch 103K/23,5M€
https://x.com/Franspeech/status/1944347034598719707

Superman (2025) vs. Thor: Love and Thunder (2022) vs. Iron Man 2 (2010)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Thor-Love-and-Thunder-(2022)/Iron-Man-2#tab=day_by_day_comparison

Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019) vs. The Batman (2022) vs. Superman (2025)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Spider-
Man-Far-From-Home-(2019)/Batman-The-(2021)/Superman-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

Superman (2025) vs. Logan (2017) vs. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 (2023)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Logan-(2017)/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Vol-3-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 7:47 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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This is what billionaires do with their free time, huh Second?

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6ix, I feel that you never grasp the point that Hollywood's ticket sales are in a downward spiral because its blockbusters are available either instantaneously and free or, alternatively, for $11.75 plus tax after waiting for advertisements to end at the movie theater.

Do you want to watch a movie at the theater in the morning? Can't be done. Watch late at night? Can't be done. Does there exist a theater where there are no obnoxious Trumptards, who need a bath and training on how to noiselessly eat in public and how to not talk during the movie? Such a theater does not exist in Texas.

https://baytown.showbizcinemas.com/movie/superman

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 1:05 PM

THG

Why is the right wing freaking out about Superman?

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 1:31 PM

so coming up, it could struggle as other movies eat its profits, The Bad Guys 2 Dreamworks animation, Weapons horror thriller Zach Cregger, Eden survival thriller, She Rides Shotgun crime thriller, Americana crime thriller, Red Sonja, horror thriller I Know What You Did Last Summer, Osiris scifi action film with limited release, The Toxic Avenger dark comedy horror splatter gorno escapist exploitative , Marvel Disney The Fantastic Four First Steps, The Naked Gun action comedy.

the good news is there is less of the comicbook genre it is in competition against...maybe the Fan4 remake takes its profits or new Toxic Avenger

...way too many horror thriller and its not even the spooky season, so they will also eat each others profits

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 3:13 PM

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Why is the right wing freaking out about Superman?

They aren't. Read this thread, stupid.

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 3:22 PM

THG

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Why is the right wing freaking out about Superman?

They aren't. Read this thread, stupid.

This is why you’re 99% wrong while posting in these threads. Ok, how many people are posting on this thread? Ok, how many people occupy the far right? Apparently, some jumped the Gunn, pun intended and labeled the movie something it was not. Do you get it Gilligan or do I need to elaborate further?

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 8:51 PM

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Why is the right wing freaking out about Superman?

They aren't. Read this thread, stupid.

The point is, we're free thinkers. We don't march in lock-step like you do. I can know exactly what you and Second are going to talk about every single day just by looking at the newspaper headlines in the morning on a news aggregator like RCP. Every single day without fail.

Yeah. If you're one of the 1 Million Americans who have FOX News on blast all day long, you're probably not going to go see Superman.

Big fucking deal. Fuck FOX News.

(And if you haven't noticed, I call JSF out on his political takes ALL THE TIME, both here and in the RWED)

And look at you posting about a movie for the first time ever, faggot. Why is that? Huh, faggot?

It wouldn't be the same reason that you all of the sudden developed a conscious and cared about kids being raped by Epstein and his clients this last week after 10 years of avoiding that topic too?

You are a lemming. I don't demean myself by debating with mindless, drooling drones who's imaginations end 5 minutes into the future any given second, with nothing inside of their brains but clickbait, headlines and horse shit.

Go fuck yourself, pig.

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 9:07 PM

Now I don't know what's going on. Too bad I didn't take a screenshot or archive what I saw at The-Numbers last night for Superman and the international take. Because that's all gone now. I posted this last night.

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Those international numbers are the nail in the coffin I think for the entire plan to reboot the DC universe for the 5th time.

Good riddance anyway. Maybe we can just let the Cape Flicks die for a decade or two now.

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Hold up. Wait a minute...

What's this?

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Superman-(2025)#tab=international

All I was hearing about was how badly it did internationally, and I know a few days ago that's what I was seeing at The-Numbers. I had heard several youtubers say that it only made $5 Million in China and a few other places as well over the weekend.

I do see that those opening weekend numbers still show up there, but now I'm seeing MUCH HIGHER numbers for all territories and the international numbers as a whole. And it's only Wednesday. I doubt very much the Monday and Tuesday numbers are even in these "corrections".

$35.8 Million in China. $21.6 Million in the UK. $17.7 Million in France. $15.4 Million in Mexico.

These aren't bad numbers at all.

Current international total is now $159.4 Million, which is nearly $5 Million more than the US take including Monday and Tuesday. And like I said before, I don't believe these revised international numbers include anything beyond Sunday.

Take away the $25 Million it's made in the US since Sunday, and that was an opening weekend of $290 Million. On a production budget of $225 Million, this is easily a winner if it doesn't crash and burn here or internationally.

It was sitting at $90 Million internationally, then all the sudden it was $160 Million internationally.

When I went back to look at it today, it's now back down to $95 Million internationally and China is back down to only $6 Million instead of just shy of $36 Million.

Did anybody else click on that link last night or early enough this morning to see the numbers that I saw?

I've only seen this happen one time before when the first part of the Mission Impossible failure was flopping. One night it added something like $250 Million internationally, which may have been enough to save it, but the next day that was all stripped away and nobody said anything about it.

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 9:12 PM

Damn....

There actually was an archive taken yesterday at archive.org, but it was at only around 2PM, way before that additional money was added. I thought maybe I'd gotten lucky and somebody actually did grab it for us.

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Friday, July 18, 2025 1:01 AM

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It was sitting at $90 Million internationally, then all the sudden it was $160 Million internationally.

When I went back to look at it today, it's now back down to $95 Million internationally and China is back down to only $6 Million instead of just shy of $36 Million

Did anybody else click on that link last night or early enough this morning to see the numbers that I saw?

I saw them. China was leading in the chart and now it is not. I remember thinking only $6 million on opening and number like $36. And now only $6 million is showing.

Did not take a screenshot.

I wonder if someone pushed a button too soon.

I saw a commercial that said Superman is the number 1 movie

in the world. So that is good!

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Friday, July 18, 2025 1:24 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

It was sitting at $90 Million internationally, then all the sudden it was $160 Million internationally.

When I went back to look at it today, it's now back down to $95 Million internationally and China is back down to only $6 Million instead of just shy of $36 Million

Did anybody else click on that link last night or early enough this morning to see the numbers that I saw?

I saw them. China was leading in the chart and now it is not. I remember thinking only $6 million on opening and number like $36. And now only $6 million is showing.

Did not take a screenshot.

Thanks buddy. I really appreciate you taking the time to confirm that you saw those numbers as well. When the same thing happened to Mission Impossible a few years ago, nobody confirmed that they saw it and I never saw anybody mention it online. So it's really nice to at least know that somebody else saw it this time.

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I wonder if someone pushed a button too soon.

Yeah. I wonder. A bug in the program? I'll bet this happens more often than I've caught it. But since it's been 2 years since the only other time I'd seen it, the thought to take a screenshot or archive it didn't occur to me.

Just kind of weird that it happened during the middle of the week. It's not that I haven't seen large international updates more than once a week on a movie before, but only twice now have I seen that update backed out.

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I saw a commercial that said Superman is the number 1 movie in the world. So that is good!

Nice.

Did you see it yet?

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Friday, July 18, 2025 1:28 AM

I figured I'd re-post this as a follow up to my reply to Ted, because he obviously missed it.

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The New Superman Movie Has an Unlikely Inspiration — and It’s Not Superman

Yes, James Gunn makes the character an “immigrant,” but the real twist comes from his own 2019 horror film, Brightburn.

This immigrant "issue" is just such a dumb and laughable argument from anybody on either side.

If ever there were a textbook definition of an Illegal Alien, it would be Superman.

There's a few differences here between Superman and the tens of millions of illegals that your party has let in that we're in the process of finally removing though, besides the fact that one is a fictional character and the tens of millions are very, very real.

The number one difference, of course, is that he is powerful enough to do whatever the hell he wants, whenever the hell he wants. And if anybody on earth had a problem with it, they don't have any way of doing anything about it.

Good thing for us he wasn't found by either of our sets of dysfunctional parents, huh?

And because he's Good, and so long as he remains Good, he brings more to the table than any human being ever possibly could. In a world full of 8 Billion Plus people who are all virtually meaningless and will be completely forgotten about after the last living person who knew them finally passes on, somebody like Superman is worth more than a countless amount of them.

Nobody cares about this issue other than talking heads in the media that are looking to keep us fighting with each other, and extremist degenerates on the fringes of both the right and left wing. This is nothing but the type of shit that keeps "intellectuals" like Paul Krugman and Ed Kilgore up at night, and the type of shit that shaved 5 years off of Kevin Drum's life.

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Friday, July 18, 2025 5:34 AM

Well if one thing it adds new life to the DC franchise, they can now claim it sekls more baseball caps, more video games, more Superman comics, toys, DVDs, T-shirts etc although DVD sales are dead compaeed to what they used to be

James Gunn’s ‘Superman’ Fuels Renewed Interest In ‘Man Of Steel,’ ‘Peacemaker’ & More DC Titles On HBO Max
https://deadline.com/2025/07/superman-fuels-dc-viewership-dc-hbo-max-m
an-of-steel-peacemaker-1236461281/

from another thread

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Jurassic World Rebirth (2025) vs. Superman (2025) vs. Man of Steel (2013)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Jurassi
c-World-Rebirth-(2025)/Superman-(2025)/Man-of-Steel#tab=day_by_day_comparison
,
Superman (2025) vs. Oppenheimer (2023) vs. A Minecraft Movie (2025)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Oppenheimer-(2023)/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

maybe they screwed up with data and wrong numbers IMAX chains also, I might give it another few days to make a full exact prediction, Chinese numbers are all over the place but they say it does better in China now but now France? made another 13m from France when its opening weekend was only 4.4m that doesnt make sense at all, I know Marvel Disney would get very 'creative' in ways they add up movie numbers I expect DC Warner to do the same just so it can break some record barrier. F1TheMovie hasn't done great but its been doing good enough to take money from Superman.

Superman top of the Brazil Box Office
https://x.com/cSMoviesBrazil/status/1945846364757221780

it seems to be doing better in Latin American than in Europe and Asia but the Europe and Asia numbers are wacky, they are down they are up they are down again maybe up up and away again...some strange math going on.

I don't see enough buzz online and Cinema didn't really come back, they said it was back with Barbie and Oppenheimer but that was kind of like a 'Dead Cat Bounce' economic thing

its first 1st Monday
$12,901,628 /
$137,923,363

1st Tuesday
$17,121,947 /
$155,045,310

1st Wednesday

$11,780,246 /
$166,825,556

Thursday and Friday will be interesting that will tell us about 'buzz' and its staying power legs

missing 4th of July? people said that was a dumb tactical move not releasing on July4 but now it seems M3GAN 2.0 have lost almost a thousand theaters giving many of those screens to buy Superman tickets?

if we are generous and optimistic we would give it $8,900,000 on Thursday which would make it stronger than Man of Steel but its not really there yet, Man of Steel in 2013 had a better first Sunday

Superman is doing ok, at times looking very strong
the previous opening Friday was
$56,109,755 /
$56,109,755

numbers and news on its progress are very inconsistent for now with conflicting reports

by next Monday it could be $5,500,000- 6,800,000 or approaching 7 Mil if word of mouth is really good ... a fall down would be more expected so it could go as low as $4,900,000 or lower

Wednesday $11.78M

Daily #BoxOffice Top 8 for Wednesday
https://xcancel.com/BORReport/status/1945949144037945808
1. #Superman - $11.78M
2. #JurassicWorldRebirth - $4.54M
3. #F1TheMovie - $1.86M
4. #JujutsuKaisen - $1.34M
5. #HowToTrainYourDragon - $1.30M
6. #Elio - $770K
7. #LiloAndStitch - $514K
8. #28YearsLater - $405K

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Friday, July 18, 2025 9:30 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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The point is, we're free thinkers. We don't march in lock-step like you do. I can know exactly what you and Second are going to talk about every single day just by looking at the newspaper headlines in the morning on a news aggregator like RCP. Every single day without fail.

Yeah. If you're one of the 1 Million Americans who have FOX News on blast all day long, you're probably not going to go see Superman.

Big fucking deal. Fuck FOX News.

(And if you haven't noticed, I call JSF out on his political takes ALL THE TIME, both here and in the RWED)

And look at you posting about a movie for the first time ever, faggot. Why is that? Huh, faggot?

It wouldn't be the same reason that you all of the sudden developed a conscious and cared about kids being raped by Epstein and his clients this last week after 10 years of avoiding that topic too?

You are a lemming. I don't demean myself by debating with mindless, drooling drones who's imaginations end 5 minutes into the future any given second, with nothing inside of their brains but clickbait, headlines and horse shit.

Go fuck yourself, pig.

6ix, you Trumptards have the same mentality as Nazis and Confederates, just a few months before they started murdering their neighbors. What should be done to Confederates? General Sherman famously stated his intention to "make Georgia howl" in an 1864 telegram to General U.S. Grant. This quote represents his "total war" strategy, aimed at breaking the Confederacy's will by targeting their economic and psychological infrastructure. Also, Sherman: "We are not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people, and we must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war."

The movie agrees that violence solves problems. In Superman, Hawkgirl kills a Trump-like politician (fat, old, funny hair, and an accent like Trump’s wife). Superdog Krypto mauls the Elon Musk character. And Mr Fantastic kills Trumptards to this catchy tune:

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, July 18, 2025 12:50 PM

THG

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T

Why is the right wing freaking out about Superman?

They aren't. Read this thread, stupid.

This is why you’re 99% wrong while posting in these threads. Ok, how many people are posting on this thread? Ok, how many people occupy the far right? Apparently, some jumped the Gunn, pun intended and labeled the movie something it was not. Do you get it Gilligan or do I need to elaborate further?

T

Wow, lucky for you, you have no idea how demented you are. Denial is how you survive. And I can tell by the way you lash out that I own you. My job here is done.

T

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Friday, July 18, 2025 1:08 PM

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T

Why is the right wing freaking out about Superman?

They aren't. Read this thread, stupid.

This is why you’re 99% wrong while posting in these threads. Ok, how many people are posting on this thread? Ok, how many people occupy the far right? Apparently, some jumped the Gunn, pun intended and labeled the movie something it was not. Do you get it Gilligan or do I need to elaborate further?

T

The point is, we're free thinkers. We don't march in lock-step like you do. I can know exactly what you and Second are going to talk about every single day just by looking at the newspaper headlines in the morning on a news aggregator like RCP. Every single day without fail.

Yeah. If you're one of the 1 Million Americans who have FOX News on blast all day long, you're probably not going to go see Superman.

Big fucking deal. Fuck FOX News.

(And if you haven't noticed, I call JSF out on his political takes ALL THE TIME, both here and in the RWED)

And look at you posting about a movie for the first time ever, faggot. Why is that? Huh, faggot?

It wouldn't be the same reason that you all of the sudden developed a conscious and cared about kids being raped by Epstein and his clients this last week after 10 years of avoiding that topic too?

You are a lemming. I don't demean myself by debating with mindless, drooling drones who's imaginations end 5 minutes into the future any given second, with nothing inside of their brains but clickbait, headlines and horse shit.

Go fuck yourself, pig.

Wow, lucky for you, you have no idea how demented you are. Denial is how you survive. And I can tell by the way you lash out that I own you. My job here is done.

T

If your job is to look like an uninformed asshole, mission accomplished.

Buh-bye.

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Friday, July 18, 2025 1:26 PM

Think I will maybe catch the new Fantastic Four movie when it hits DVD. Pedro Pascal is a real turn on and admittedly Ben Grimm has always been my favourite character.

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Friday, July 18, 2025 7:02 PM

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And Mr Fantastic kills Trumptards to this catchy tune:

Why do you have to turn everything into Left vs Right,
from reviews I seen this movie isnt about Right vs Left or Leftwing vs Rightwing guys

Mr Fantastic in Fantastic Four is next week, its not out yet unless you got some pre production thing leaked on the web

Do you mean the Mr Superdog or Mr Lantern? , Metamorpho or Mr Ultraman Cloned or 'Mr Terrific' instead of Mr Fantastic, I hope youre posting rubbish

but if not thanks for spoiling the movie, idiot

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Friday, July 18, 2025 7:06 PM

Thursday $10,950,000 + .... maybe some ouch! not terrible numbers but not great if you're looking for signs of staying power at the box office

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Saturday, July 19, 2025 6:08 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

The best copy yet! Superman.2025.1080p.MULTi.TELESYNC.x264-SyncUP

Bittorrent Link: 0E93D26239F69C4E109171A0C1ADA7331A1C82E6

https://x1337x.cc/torrent/6445884/Superman-2025-1080p-MULTi-TELESYNC-x
264-SyncUP/ <--Don’t forget the final / for without it, there will be a "404 Not Found" error.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 19, 2025 6:49 PM

And yet, people are still going to see it.

Womp. Womp.

So much for your theory on this movie, huh Ted?

Second, The Communist Ass-Pirate, is the only faggot in here trying to actively destroy the movie.

Looks like you're wrong again. As per usual.

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Saturday, July 19, 2025 9:26 PM

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Originally posted by second:

And Mr Fantastic kills Trumptards to this catchy tune:

Why do you have to turn everything into Left vs Right,
from reviews I seen this movie isnt about Right vs Left or Leftwing vs Rightwing guys

Mr Fantastic in Fantastic Four is next week, its not out yet unless you got some pre production thing leaked on the web

Do you mean the Mr Superdog or Mr Lantern? , Metamorpho or Mr Ultraman Cloned or 'Mr Terrific' instead of Mr Fantastic, I hope youre posting rubbish

but if not thanks for spoiling the movie, idiot

The most political thing about this movie is simply casting Pedro for the role in the first place, AFAIK. Of course there's the mistake of not taking out the hard M-She-U girl power garbage in reshoots, and then realizing how big a mistake it was to leave it in there this late in the game. So they're announcing how powerful Pedro is going to be as he ultimately takes the lead of the Avengers soon, in a movie that might not even be made in the near future, despite the fact that Sue Storm leads the Fantastic Four currently and they went with formless female Silver Surfer. And making Pedro the new head of The Avengers, nearly impossible shoes to fill for anybody, let alone Pedro, will be another HUGE misstep for Marvel, since Brenda is about the only person I've ever come into contact with who likes Pascal or anything that he's been in. (And I envy her for that because she's just talking about how hunky he is as if we're still living in the late 90's and early 2000's and everything hasn't become so toxically political. Good for you Brenda. Do NOT look into things that Pedro Pascal says in real life. It will only depress you).

We will see how much he believes his own constant real life rhetoric about supporting women to see if he shows up in support of Gina Carrano in her lawsuit against Disney when he didn't get fired for saying far worse things on Twitter than she said when she got fired from the Mandalorian while his star at Disney continued to rise, despite still never having been the lead in a movie that has made money.

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Saturday, July 19, 2025 11:19 PM

SIX, no fighting but you do know how old I am?

. S'alright, I still say split for leaving somewhere.

Someone on here once said they liked Robert Redford and I don't. Paul Newman, I did like.

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Saturday, July 19, 2025 11:55 PM

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SIX, no fighting but you do know how old I am? . S'alright, I still say split for leaving somewhere.

I've learned over the years never to say how old I think a lady is, even when invited to take a guess. TRAP!

Yeah... I know we're around the same age and you're a few years older than me. Probably around my old babysitter's age if I had to guess. I didn't mean it that way, as if you were just a kid who didn't know any better.

It's back along the lines of the no cell phone thing, and the simpler way that you choose to enjoy your music and why it means more to you than it does for most of the rest of us who just plunged into the whole digital abundance world to the point where there's too much of everything and it all kind of lost its value.

We are all way too wrapped up in politics. Me included. Can't deny that, even though I think not having a smart phone at least helps. Not so much these days when I'm home so much, but once I get back out there and I'm doing things and I don't suffer from Idle Hands Syndrome on the regular.

I honestly believe you don't really know much about what Pedro has to say in "real life", whether it be interviews or supposed candid moments. And I love that for you. I loved that we never knew what Gene Hackman's politics were. But Gene did us that solid himself and never talked politics in public. Hardly anyone famous can help themselves today, and Pedro is fairly strongly in the opposite direction of Gene Hackman when it comes to keeping his mouth shut and staying out of everyone's business. There have been a lot worse. He's no Rachel Zeigler, but it ain't great.

So I wasn't joking or even trying to manipulate or trick you into looking for things that he's said and his... eccentricities. You really shouldn't. And I hope you don't. You're one of the few people I know who I believe have that restraint, and that will allow you to continue to separate the artist from the person. Which is what I think that they all need to start doing again if they ever want to have a Hollywood again like we knew it. They used to be what we imagined them to be. They were bigger than life. Now they're mostly just A-holes with dumb opinions like the rest of us.

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Someone on here once said they liked Robert Redford and I don't. Paul Newman, I did like.

I'd seen Redford in some roles I liked growing up. I'm to young to have been around to hear him talk politics when he was really prominent in his youth, though I'm sure he did. I think a lot less of them did back then, but he just seems to be the type... one of the ones who started it all. I've seen some of his takes in his old age and I think they're mostly better off left in his own head too.

Don't know anything about Paul Newman's Politics and I love the guy. One of my favorite actors. I'm noticing a pattern developing here...

It's a bad thing when famous people get so hyper political and then choose sides like this. Because whether they know it or not, they inadvertently pit normal folk like us against each other... by the millions too. They get talked about all the time because they are people that a good majority of us SEE all the time, so they're something to talk about. It was always that way, but now it's almost impossible not to have politics come up in the conversation too since so many of them have so much politically charged baggage that come along with liking and or disliking them.

That's why I appreciate ya, Brenda.

You got a Critical Thinking Fountain going on up in that brain of yours and you put up with me and look past my bullshit when it's directed at several others here. Cause you get people. Probably why you're more or less a loner type would be my guess too. Or that could just be me projecting. If you just looked at everybody and judged them by their cover like most folk around here do, you wouldn't jump all over me everyday like some people do, but you wouldn't have anything to say to me either.

I just want to go back to the days when people weren't always ripping each other apart everyday.

You chose never to step into that world in the first place. Good on you. Don't ever let anybody force you into it.

You enjoy what you want to enjoy and like who you want to like.

Just keep in mind if you like any Hollywood person and want to keep it that way, it's at least a coin flip that you're not going to like them if you hear what they have to say about anything outside of their craft, so you're better off not knowing.

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Sunday, July 20, 2025 4:34 AM

ANONYMOUS1

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Did you see it yet?

Not yet.

Hoping to see How to train your dragon tomottow.

More international numbers posted for Superman…still no increase in China’s numbers.

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Sunday, July 20, 2025 6:02 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
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Originally posted by second:

And Mr Fantastic kills Trumptards to this catchy tune:

Why do you have to turn everything into Left vs Right,
from reviews I seen this movie isnt about Right vs Left or Leftwing vs Rightwing guys

Mr Fantastic in Fantastic Four is next week, its not out yet unless you got some pre production thing leaked on the web

Do you mean the Mr Superdog or Mr Lantern? , Metamorpho or Mr Ultraman Cloned or 'Mr Terrific' instead of Mr Fantastic, I hope youre posting rubbish

but if not thanks for spoiling the movie, idiot

Oops! I mistakenly called him Mr. Fantastic. He is Mr. Terrific. I'm so sorry to have confused you by mentioning a character from another movie. I repeat: Edi Gathegi is Mr. Terrific.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1346230/

This isn't confusing. Is it? Not a spoiler, either:

James Gunn Explains Jor-El's Message In Superman

July 19, 2025

https://screenrant.com/superman-james-gunn-jor-el-message-real-confirm
ed/

The message has remained a point of contention among audiences, some of whom are convinced that Lex altered the message. In response, Gunn addressed the idea in an appearance on Happy Sad Confused with Josh Horowitz. He simply asked: "How can someone not think it's real?"

Gunn added that the test screening audiences did question this twist's legitimacy as well, suggesting it could have been doctored with artificial intelligence. He explained that the film puts a lot of effort into confirming the footage is real:

"In the movie [...] Mr. Terrific says, 'I know those computer forensics guys. There's no way.' That's Mr. Terrific. Smart as Lex Luthor. Then I have my Secretary of Defense say, 'I think whatever you think about Luthor, but it's real.' And then the clincher is that Gurkos and Lex are walking together, right? And you know, Gurkos says, 'Ah, you doctored the message. This is great.' And Lex says, 'It's not a doctored message. It's real.' "

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, July 20, 2025 2:20 PM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
SIX, no fighting but you do know how old I am? . S'alright, I still say split for leaving somewhere.

I've learned over the years never to say how old I think a lady is, even when invited to take a guess. TRAP!

Yeah... I know we're around the same age and you're a few years older than me. Probably around my old babysitter's age if I had to guess. I didn't mean it that way, as if you were just a kid who didn't know any better.

It's back along the lines of the no cell phone thing, and the simpler way that you choose to enjoy your music and why it means more to you than it does for most of the rest of us who just plunged into the whole digital abundance world to the point where there's too much of everything and it all kind of lost its value.

We are all way too wrapped up in politics. Me included. Can't deny that, even though I think not having a smart phone at least helps. Not so much these days when I'm home so much, but once I get back out there and I'm doing things and I don't suffer from Idle Hands Syndrome on the regular.

I honestly believe you don't really know much about what Pedro has to say in "real life", whether it be interviews or supposed candid moments. And I love that for you. I loved that we never knew what Gene Hackman's politics were. But Gene did us that solid himself and never talked politics in public. Hardly anyone famous can help themselves today, and Pedro is fairly strongly in the opposite direction of Gene Hackman when it comes to keeping his mouth shut and staying out of everyone's business. There have been a lot worse. He's no Rachel Zeigler, but it ain't great.

So I wasn't joking or even trying to manipulate or trick you into looking for things that he's said and his... eccentricities. You really shouldn't. And I hope you don't. You're one of the few people I know who I believe have that restraint, and that will allow you to continue to separate the artist from the person. Which is what I think that they all need to start doing again if they ever want to have a Hollywood again like we knew it. They used to be what we imagined them to be. They were bigger than life. Now they're mostly just A-holes with dumb opinions like the rest of us.

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Someone on here once said they liked Robert Redford and I don't. Paul Newman, I did like.

I'd seen Redford in some roles I liked growing up. I'm to young to have been around to hear him talk politics when he was really prominent in his youth, though I'm sure he did. I think a lot less of them did back then, but he just seems to be the type... one of the ones who started it all. I've seen some of his takes in his old age and I think they're mostly better off left in his own head too.

Don't know anything about Paul Newman's Politics and I love the guy. One of my favorite actors. I'm noticing a pattern developing here...

It's a bad thing when famous people get so hyper political and then choose sides like this. Because whether they know it or not, they inadvertently pit normal folk like us against each other... by the millions too. They get talked about all the time because they are people that a good majority of us SEE all the time, so they're something to talk about. It was always that way, but now it's almost impossible not to have politics come up in the conversation too since so many of them have so much politically charged baggage that come along with liking and or disliking them.

That's why I appreciate ya, Brenda.

You got a Critical Thinking Fountain going on up in that brain of yours and you put up with me and look past my bullshit when it's directed at several others here. Cause you get people. Probably why you're more or less a loner type would be my guess too. Or that could just be me projecting. If you just looked at everybody and judged them by their cover like most folk around here do, you wouldn't jump all over me everyday like some people do, but you wouldn't have anything to say to me either.

I just want to go back to the days when people weren't always ripping each other apart everyday.

You chose never to step into that world in the first place. Good on you. Don't ever let anybody force you into it.

You enjoy what you want to enjoy and like who you want to like.

Just keep in mind if you like any Hollywood person and want to keep it that way, it's at least a coin flip that you're not going to like them if you hear what they have to say about anything outside of their craft, so you're better off not knowing.

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That is a trap for men to fall in to and for women to use.

Oh, I know that.

It's just funny to me because as I said I still use phrases like that.

Yeah, simpler times to be sure without all the digital.

I try not to be too wrapped up in politics coming from either side of the line. I will admit that the ladies in my mah jong group, some not all will get on my nerves and I have corrected them. And I have been hauled on to the carpet by the head lady about it. But it just grates. So, I do what I do.

Actually I do know Pedro is pretty liberal the few times I have heard him. Just clips of things on tv. But I don't go looking for it. Never paid much to Gene Hackman either. He was a fair actor in my mind but I don't know much else and I don't want too. Since I've been an adult I've pretty well been able to separate the artist from the person. Actor or musician. I can love an actor or musician for their work but I just ignore their off stage, screen stuff because that is personal in my mind.

I've seen Redford a bit but he's just not my cup of tea. Like I said Newman was my thing. And all I really know about Newman outside of his films was the race car driving bug he had.

Though Redford did start a film festival down there a good number of years ago and I think it is still going. I believe it is called ,"The Sundance Festival". Could be wrong about the title.

You do have a point about people picking actors or musicians based on their politics instead of work.

That is a very nice compliment SIX and I do appreciate that.

I was raised on critical thinking. My dad was a good thinker too and he would talk to me about all types of things. No, you are not far off the mark when you say I am a loner. I have been over the years that way. And again we go back to my dad. He saw too much of that kind of garbage. Judging people without knowing them. So, he taught me not too do that.

You have a good point. And as I said I just want construct conversation. Different points of view are fine but I don't want to be jumped on just because I don't think the same.

If I do tip a toe into an artist's personal life it's usually not for long. Just curiosity. You must recognize that in me by now. I have a curiosity streak a mile wide.

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That is a trap for men to fall in to and for women to use.

Oh, I know that. It's just funny to me because as I said I still use phrases like that.

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Yeah, simpler times to be sure without all the digital.

Yeah. But it was so easy to fall into all those digital traps, especially when I was the age that I was, and suddenly this lower-middle-class kid who never had money to buy music albums was the one who had all the brand new music on disc in is car and on a digital jukebox on his PC connected to his home stereo system at his first apartment. A big part of me being a central orbit for Party Central growing up was my tech knowledge, and my everyday access to fairly high speed internet and Napster along with a boss who didn't care what I was doing with my free time as long as I kept performing for him as I did. Non-stop, new, commercial free music always bumping without needing to pay a DJ or even think about it. Good times...

But the problem was, it was all made so easy that I would NEVER go back to having a record or CD player and playing albums one at a time like we used to. I'd have zero patience for it by now. Living this way changes you for sure, even though most people never talk about it or probably never even really think about it.

In this case, my relationship with music was kind of a sad casualty. It's not dead, but it had been injured badly decades ago and never healed right. I still love music and there are still new songs that come out that really grab me for a short while, but even my favorite songs have become little more than elevator music at this point, with an ever increasing more of them being moved to the list of songs that I could go the rest of my life never hearing again and I'd be happy about it.

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I try not to be too wrapped up in politics coming from either side of the line. I will admit that the ladies in my mah jong group, some not all will get on my nerves and I have corrected them. And I have been hauled on to the carpet by the head lady about it. But it just grates. So, I do what I do.

Yeah... We gotta be careful. I feel that I need to especially be careful these days. I've already had to try to dance around things and stay out of politics in order not to lose family members who are on the Left and don't stop talking about politics all the time for years. But now that I've more or less gotten what I wanted, I find that I have to do the same thing now with people who I've been in strong alignment with for a long time too. It was easier to navigate the other side because they all thought the same things all the time, so you knew where the landmines are. Trying to dance around the minefield on the right side of the equation takes a lot more thought and I think at this point it's probably best that I don't talk to anybody in Real Life about politics, period.

Just because my guy won this time, doesn't mean I'm going to agree with 100% of everything he does. At this point, I consider myself the only person I know in real life or online who is actually going to be directly and negatively impacted by Politics in a life changing way, despite everyone always going on about it day in and day out for over a decade.

Bottom line is with my current health situation, when that Big Beautiful Bill passed, they will now essentially be ordering the death penalty against me in December of next year if I refuse to go back to work. People can spin that however they want and put that blame on me if they want, but these are just the facts. If I refuse to go back to work during or before December of next year, they will strip me of the health insurance that is paying for what I need to live and I will die without it.

But despite this, I believe a lot of good is coming from how last election went and I'm able to overlook this and hold out and hope that things actually are going to get better for Americans, and their overall quality of life does go back to where it was in the 90's instead of where we are today. I still think I made the right choice, even though I knew I had that to lose and it was at least a coin flip that I would be losing it.

So I don't know. The one positive about all of that is I feel that I've actually made a sacrifice and forced myself into a life-changing situation, forcing me to stand behind a choice I despite having to personally suffer because of it. Makes ignoring idiots a lot easier to do when you know that they're just whining and seeking atta'boy's and free dopamine hits without an ounce of skin in the game.

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Actually I do know Pedro is pretty liberal the few times I have heard him. Just clips of things on tv. But I don't go looking for it. Never paid much to Gene Hackman either. He was a fair actor in my mind but I don't know much else and I don't want too. Since I've been an adult I've pretty well been able to separate the artist from the person. Actor or musician. I can love an actor or musician for their work but I just ignore their off stage, screen stuff because that is personal in my mind.

I've seen Redford a bit but he's just not my cup of tea. Like I said Newman was my thing. And all I really know about Newman outside of his films was the race car driving bug he had. Though Redford did start a film festival down there a good number of years ago and I think it is still going. I believe it is called ,"The Sundance Festival". Could be wrong about the title.

You do have a point about people picking actors or musicians based on their politics instead of work.

Yeah. Newman was awesome. Cool Hand Luke is my Spirit Animal.

I could take or leave Redford, but I don't think I've ever seen him in anything that was bad before.

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That is a very nice compliment SIX and I do appreciate that.

Just calling it like I see it.

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I was raised on critical thinking. My dad was a good thinker too and he would talk to me about all types of things. No, you are not far off the mark when you say I am a loner. I have been over the years that way. And again we go back to my dad. He saw too much of that kind of garbage. Judging people without knowing them. So, he taught me not too do that.

Looks like you had a good role model. And not only that, but you actually listened to him and probably learned from a lot of his mistakes because of it.

I didn't have that. And sometimes on the rare occasion that it was there, I didn't listen and didn't learn anyone else's lessons because almost every adult in my life did nothing but lie up to that point anyhow, whether those lies were motivated by selfish and neurotic reasons or attempting to spare my brothers and I even more trauma.

And I think when your parents (or at least one of your parents) are at each other's throats like that, not only don't you have a single parent that's ever talking to you like an adult-in-the-making, but other adults in your orbit aren't going out of their way to step into that role for them and nobody talks to you about anything real for fear of facing the wrath they see with their own eyes if they tell us anything meaningful and we're foolish enough to share it with our parents later and it gets back to them.

So I was just a gullible dummy when I moved out of the nest. I'd basically stopped learning anything by the time I was 6 and already knew how to read, write and do basic math when school started, and then I didn't learn any life lessons until I moved out at 19 years old. Basically just 15 wasted years watching reruns, playing video games and reading shitty made-for-teen fiction books without any purpose or direction other than babysitting my brothers.

Learned a lot of rough lessons after I left home and I haven't stopped learning them to this day.

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You have a good point. And as I said I just want construct conversation. Different points of view are fine but I don't want to be jumped on just because I don't think the same.

Yeah. Everyone wants to be able to paint everyone else as a cartoon black-hat-wearing villain so they can yell and scream and feel justified about their bad behavior is all. I know I do it too even though I try not to. It's just hard sometimes. Freakin' internet sucks.

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If I do tip a toe into an artist's personal life it's usually not for long. Just curiosity. You must recognize that in me by now. I have a curiosity streak a mile wide.

Nah... I know.

But if I were you, if you ever think about really looking into Pedro Pascal and what he does with his free time, I'd suggest you change tack and look up more info on Louis Riel instead.

Not only do you get to keep fueling the little celeb crush you have for him that way, but I think you'll find that even the mundane aspects of Riel's life are far more interesting than any of these celebrities are once the curtain is pulled back and we see that most of them do not deserve any of the adulation or the money or fame.

Most of 'em are little more than better looking clones of us, but without much of anything going on upstairs.

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That is a trap for men to fall in to and for women to use.

Oh, I know that. It's just funny to me because as I said I still use phrases like that.

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Yeah, simpler times to be sure without all the digital.

Yeah. But it was so easy to fall into all those digital traps, especially when I was the age that I was, and suddenly this lower-middle-class kid who never had money to buy music albums was the one who had all the brand new music on disc in is car and on a digital jukebox on his PC connected to his home stereo system at his first apartment. A big part of me being a central orbit for Party Central growing up was my tech knowledge, and my everyday access to fairly high speed internet and Napster along with a boss who didn't care what I was doing with my free time as long as I kept performing for him as I did. Non-stop, new, commercial free music always bumping without needing to pay a DJ or even think about it. Good times...

But the problem was, it was all made so easy that I would NEVER go back to having a record or CD player and playing albums one at a time like we used to. I'd have zero patience for it by now. Living this way changes you for sure, even though most people never talk about it or probably never even really think about it.

In this case, my relationship with music was kind of a sad casualty. It's not dead, but it had been injured badly decades ago and never healed right. I still love music and there are still new songs that come out that really grab me for a short while, but even my favorite songs have become little more than elevator music at this point, with an ever increasing more of them being moved to the list of songs that I could go the rest of my life never hearing again and I'd be happy about it.

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I try not to be too wrapped up in politics coming from either side of the line. I will admit that the ladies in my mah jong group, some not all will get on my nerves and I have corrected them. And I have been hauled on to the carpet by the head lady about it. But it just grates. So, I do what I do.

Yeah... We gotta be careful. I feel that I need to especially be careful these days. I've already had to try to dance around things and stay out of politics in order not to lose family members who are on the Left and don't stop talking about politics all the time for years. But now that I've more or less gotten what I wanted, I find that I have to do the same thing now with people who I've been in strong alignment with for a long time too. It was easier to navigate the other side because they all thought the same things all the time, so you knew where the landmines are. Trying to dance around the minefield on the right side of the equation takes a lot more thought and I think at this point it's probably best that I don't talk to anybody in Real Life about politics, period.

Just because my guy won this time, doesn't mean I'm going to agree with 100% of everything he does. At this point, I consider myself the only person I know in real life or online who is actually going to be directly and negatively impacted by Politics in a life changing way, despite everyone always going on about it day in and day out for over a decade.

Bottom line is with my current health situation, when that Big Beautiful Bill passed, they will now essentially be ordering the death penalty against me in December of next year if I refuse to go back to work. People can spin that however they want and put that blame on me if they want, but these are just the facts. If I refuse to go back to work during or before December of next year, they will strip me of the health insurance that is paying for what I need to live and I will die without it.

But despite this, I believe a lot of good is coming from how last election went and I'm able to overlook this and hold out and hope that things actually are going to get better for Americans, and their overall quality of life does go back to where it was in the 90's instead of where we are today. I still think I made the right choice, even though I knew I had that to lose and it was at least a coin flip that I would be losing it.

So I don't know. The one positive about all of that is I feel that I've actually made a sacrifice and forced myself into a life-changing situation, forcing me to stand behind a choice I despite having to personally suffer because of it. Makes ignoring idiots a lot easier to do when you know that they're just whining and seeking atta'boy's and free dopamine hits without an ounce of skin in the game.

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Actually I do know Pedro is pretty liberal the few times I have heard him. Just clips of things on tv. But I don't go looking for it. Never paid much to Gene Hackman either. He was a fair actor in my mind but I don't know much else and I don't want too. Since I've been an adult I've pretty well been able to separate the artist from the person. Actor or musician. I can love an actor or musician for their work but I just ignore their off stage, screen stuff because that is personal in my mind.

I've seen Redford a bit but he's just not my cup of tea. Like I said Newman was my thing. And all I really know about Newman outside of his films was the race car driving bug he had. Though Redford did start a film festival down there a good number of years ago and I think it is still going. I believe it is called ,"The Sundance Festival". Could be wrong about the title.

You do have a point about people picking actors or musicians based on their politics instead of work.

Yeah. Newman was awesome. Cool Hand Luke is my Spirit Animal.

I could take or leave Redford, but I don't think I've ever seen him in anything that was bad before.

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That is a very nice compliment SIX and I do appreciate that.

Just calling it like I see it.

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I was raised on critical thinking. My dad was a good thinker too and he would talk to me about all types of things. No, you are not far off the mark when you say I am a loner. I have been over the years that way. And again we go back to my dad. He saw too much of that kind of garbage. Judging people without knowing them. So, he taught me not too do that.

Looks like you had a good role model. And not only that, but you actually listened to him and probably learned from a lot of his mistakes because of it.

I didn't have that. And sometimes on the rare occasion that it was there, I didn't listen and didn't learn anyone else's lessons because almost every adult in my life did nothing but lie up to that point anyhow, whether those lies were motivated by selfish and neurotic reasons or attempting to spare my brothers and I even more trauma.

And I think when your parents (or at least one of your parents) are at each other's throats like that, not only don't you have a single parent that's ever talking to you like an adult-in-the-making, but other adults in your orbit aren't going out of their way to step into that role for them and nobody talks to you about anything real for fear of facing the wrath they see with their own eyes if they tell us anything meaningful and we're foolish enough to share it with our parents later and it gets back to them.

So I was just a gullible dummy when I moved out of the nest. I'd basically stopped learning anything by the time I was 6 and already knew how to read, write and do basic math when school started, and then I didn't learn any life lessons until I moved out at 19 years old. Basically just 15 wasted years watching reruns, playing video games and reading shitty made-for-teen fiction books without any purpose or direction other than babysitting my brothers.

Learned a lot of rough lessons after I left home and I haven't stopped learning them to this day.

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You have a good point. And as I said I just want construct conversation. Different points of view are fine but I don't want to be jumped on just because I don't think the same.

Yeah. Everyone wants to be able to paint everyone else as a cartoon black-hat-wearing villain so they can yell and scream and feel justified about their bad behavior is all. I know I do it too even though I try not to. It's just hard sometimes. Freakin' internet sucks.

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If I do tip a toe into an artist's personal life it's usually not for long. Just curiosity. You must recognize that in me by now. I have a curiosity streak a mile wide.

Nah... I know.

But if I were you, if you ever think about really looking into Pedro Pascal and what he does with his free time, I'd suggest you change tack and look up more info on Louis Riel instead.

Not only do you get to keep fueling the little celeb crush you have for him that way, but I think you'll find that even the mundane aspects of Riel's life are far more interesting than any of these celebrities are once the curtain is pulled back and we see that most of them do not deserve any of the adulation or the money or fame.

Most of 'em are little more than better looking clones of us, but without much of anything going on upstairs.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

Oh, heck. I can remember when portable tape recorders first came out. We bought one and I can remember all of us learning how to use it. My mum trying to record herself singing Christmas carols. Only one problem with that. She couldn't carry a tune in a bucket.

When you replayed the tape you could sort of hear my dad in the background laughing. She ignored them. A friend of my mum's had I do believe an old reel to reel recorder. I wasn't allowed to touch it when I was a kid. She showed me how it worked but that was all.

Course I don't have an e-reader or a kindle. I love books, something you can actually hold and feel in my hands. That's probably why I have so many of them. I want that connection to the writer.

Well, I guess I shouldn't have said politics. In my case it is mostly giving certain ladies a history lesson when it comes to First Nations. Say something wrong when I know the history and that really grinds my gears. So, yeah sometimes I have to bit my tongue. Unless I want a phone call telling me I shouldn't say certain things because certain people get their knickers in a twist.

I know about the minefields. In the last few months I have had my boss try to convince me of certain things. If I try to give my opinion she just says well I don't know enough about it. So, I give up. No point.

Well, to be honest I have thought some things about your guy. And I did think of you when that bill passed and others it will hurt.

I love "Cool Hand Luke". Think that had to be the first Newman film I saw. But I also love "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid".

I like to think my dad was a good role model. I spent a lot of time talking to him, so I did manage to learn from him. It wasn't so much any mistakes he made that got him thinking the way he did, but growing up a half-breed. The garbage that would of come his way because of his skin colour. That is why he taught me to see a person's actions and listen to how they speak and treat you before anything.

Yeah, having a stable home life as a child does make a difference. For me things went slightly sideways after my dad died. Not saying I got into trouble or anything after he died but I lost a very important person to me.

Learning is good. No matter what it is. We should always be open to new ideas and thoughts. I like to think I am still learning even now.

So true and painting everyone with same paint brush does not help.

No worries about me. I like my little crushes. Makes me think I am still a teenager.

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MAGA’s tantrum over “woke” Superman is nastier than their usual whining

Lying about the character's legacy is part of the larger right-wing project to rewrite history

By Amanda Marcotte | July 21, 2025 6:45AM (EDT)

https://www.salon.com/2025/07/21/magas-tantrum-over-woke-superman-is-n
astier-than-their-usual-whining/

Every time there’s a pop cultural phenomenon — a blockbuster movie, a chart-topping single, a hot new fashion trend — conservative media and MAGA influencers rush to denounce it as anti-American, anti-family or even demonic.

The reasons right-wing pundits engage in this are transparent. The biggest is simple attention economics. Glomming onto popular topics is a good way to attract new audiences, especially those who may not be that political, and lure them into engaging with reactionary content. It also helps feed the paranoia that fuels the right, by propping up the narrative that all of pop culture is out to destroy them and their way of life. The ultimate goal is to persuade people to reject movies, music, TV and other cultural artifacts as “woke” or “Satanic,” and turn exclusively to MAGA influencers for their entertainment needs. Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire even has a movie studio where they turn out subpar content that only has an audience because they’ve convinced right-wingers to eschew quality films as too “liberal.”

My initial reaction when I saw right-wing media conduct its all-too-predictable tantrum over the new “Superman” movie was that it’s just more of the same: Claim it’s “woke” propaganda, work the audience into a tizzy of boycott threats and reap the reward of alienating their base further from the rest of society so that the MAGA cult is all they have left. Which, to be fair, is bad enough. But the actual content of the complaints made this whole exercise even more sinister. The attacks on “Superman” are part of a larger effort by the right to completely rewrite history, so they can pretend that being a patriotic American means embracing authoritarian values.

The furor, for those lucky enough to have missed it, had nothing to do with the actual plot of the movie, which was about Clark Kent learning to love his poorly-behaved dog Krypto. (There was also some stuff about fighting Lex Luthor and saving the world, but let’s face it, the dog made the movie.) The MAGA talking heads are big mad that director James Gunn said that Superman is an immigrant. “Superman is the story of America,” Gunn told The Times of London. “An immigrant that came from other places and populated the country.” They were also furious that Gunn said Superman stands for “human kindness.”

Immigrants and kindness are both canceled in Donald Trump’s America, so the right was outraged. Jesse Watters of Fox News “joked” that Superman should have “MS-13” on his cape. Co-host Kellyanne Conway agreed, wondering if the movie would fail on the assumption that American audiences also hate kindness and immigrants. Dean Cain, who played Superman on TV before finding a job better suited to his acting talents — right-wing punditry — was also mad. “How woke is Hollywood going to make this character?” I don’t remember Cain’s version of Superman, so maybe he did go around kicking dogs and sexually harassing women like a proper MAGA superhero. But honestly, I doubt the studio would have allowed that.

This is all very dumb, but what was striking was how brazenly dishonest it was. If there is one thing that everybody knows about Superman, it’s that he’s an alien who was smuggled to Earth. Being a refugee is as central to the character as the cheek dimples and the broad chest. It would be one thing if the Fox hosts were disputing the values of the movie. In the age of Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi “Puppy Killer” Noem, we get that “be nice to dogs” is an ideology that MAGA loathes. No, what makes this next-level evil is they were denying a centerpiece of the character’s history as well-known as the date of Independence Day and the colors of the American flag.

Cain (the ex-Superman on TV) tried to hedge by admitting that Clark Kent is an immigrant, but he attempted to spin it anyway nonetheless, saying, “but there are rules,” and “there have to be limits, because we can’t have everybody in the United States.” If he’s trying to make this about legal vs. illegal immigration, well, we all also know Superman didn’t apply for a visa before crashing into the planet’s surface. This leads me to think Cain is hinting that the limits are about skin color, not paperwork. After all, in the same rant, he went off on how terrible it would be if the United States were “more like Somalia.”

There have been a lot of dutiful, fact-check-style responses pointing out that Superman is an immigrant and the character was always “woke,” in that he has a history of fighting fascists and KKK members. But in a sense, that was unnecessary, because everyone already knows this. That’s where this Fox News gambit goes from being stupid to deeply sinister: They are asking their audience to deny not just the facts, but a fact we all grew up with, something woven into the DNA of our American identity.

This is part of a larger and far more serious effort by Trump and the MAGA movement to rewrite history, and therefore, to rewrite what the story of America even is. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has been hyperfocused on erasing all acknowledgement that women, people of color and queer people have long served in the military, all to prop up his childish fantasy that the only real heroes are white men. Under the guise of stopping “DEI,” shorthand for “diversity, equity and inclusion,” Republicans are waging war on libraries and museums, censoring books and displays that reflect the basic truth that the U.S. has always been a multi-ethnic society. Republicans are getting increasingly aggressive about spreading Christian nationalist lies that the U.S. was founded as a functional theocracy, when it was intended to be a secular nation.

The Superman gambit is the pop culture version of this. In one sense, it’s not as big of a deal as the Trump administration systematically removing Black historical figures from the public record. But it’s still deeply troubling, precisely because it’s an attack on a story that’s so fundamental to American culture. The right understands how crucial storytelling is to the way a society views itself. Superman’s origin story is as much a part of the American identity as Betsy Ross and Abraham Lincoln. Before most of us grow up and learn the more complex story of how the United States was built by waves of immigrants who often endured plenty of racist resistance, we were warmed up to the idea by learning that the Man of Steel is an immigrant who hid his true nature until he realized he needed to unveil it to be a force for good.

Stories like “Superman” have helped build up the American immune system to demagogues like Trump, who cynically build their own power by exploiting the lizard-brain impulses to hate and fear difference. Trump got elected by stirring up irrational fears that darker-skinned immigrants are coming to rape women and eat pets. But in a hearteningly quick turnaround, polls already show that Americans don’t like Trump’s white nationalist politics when they see them enacted. A recent Gallup poll shows a shocking about-face in public opinion now that people are seeing horrific images of ICE raids and hearing stories of innocent people sent to concentration camps euphemistically described as “detention centers.” During the campaign, 55% of Americans said they wanted less immigration. That’s dropped to 30%. In 2024, 64% of Americans said immigration is a “good thing.” Now it’s up 15 points to 79% — the highest it’s ever been in Gallup polling.

That bounce-back to basic decency owes a great deal to the fact that Americans have long told ourselves a story about how we are a nation of immigrants, and the best of us are often those who come from far away to build their lives anew. We don’t just see our family histories in the immigrants who are now being rounded up by right-wingers, who threaten to feed them to alligators. We see our ancestral stories reflected characters like Superman. By trying to rewrite the history of the character that everyone knows, MAGA pundits are asking their audience to join in a collective lie, one whose purpose is to dismantle the core understanding of what America is — and replace it with their dystopian, fascistic vision for us instead.

Also, Americans love dogs. You can’t take that from us, MAGA. Krypto forever!

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MAGA’s tantrum over “woke” Superman is nastier than their usual whining

Zero truth to this, whatsoever.

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MAGA’s tantrum over “woke” Superman is nastier than their usual whining

Zero truth to this, whatsoever.

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6ix, you spent several minutes whining about your health, your parents, and preferring to die rather than work. And your fear of offending relatives who think Trump is a lying sack of shit. Do you realize you are a whiner?

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