| Brenda: That's what makes history so important. We need to hopefully keep human from making the same mistakes over and over. That is why I wear my hair in a braid. Once it was just to keep my long hair out of the way. But now it is to honour my grandmother and her siblings. Their braids would have been cut off at residential school |
| Brenda: Trust me Jack. Erasing the past is a very bad thing. Human beings in general have a very short memory for certain things. That's why we write history books or oral history. So things are hopefully not forgotten. I consider myself something of an amateur historian and archaeologist as well as the sciences joined to those. |
| Brenda: I've seen Ghost World but that was years ago. A friend decided I needed to see it. Can't remember much about it now but to me it seemed like a bunch of jumbled stuff put together. |
| Brenda: I never read Ghost Rider like I said. And wasn't the more modern character been a daredevil rider and was killed. Or something like that.? I don't know. Oh, I'm sure that a lot of people have forgotten about the original Ghost Rider. |
Brenda: My dad wouldn't have known comic books when he was growing up. There would have probably still been .10cent novels around. And they wouldn't have been the greatest. I had a Namor comic where he was still involved with WWII.  I think I just remember the Vault of Horrors and Weird Science. But they weren't my thing. |
| Brenda: It does look pretty cool for Ghost Rider. Like I said I never know that about the character. Well, could also say that characters have to evolve to stay relevant. |
| Brenda: Dude, Air Canada just went back to work. |
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6ixStringJack: We have no context for nothing. No awareness of nuance, and no awareness that people back then were individuals just as we're individuals today, and just lumping all the old dead people in buckets and framing a story around those buckets when none of them are alive to defend their own character or honor or that of their own family just don't seem very right or fair to me is all. Everybody is just so quick to paint somebody else as the devil these days. I think we've forgotten history and we've regressed. 20-30 years from now there's going to be Witch Trials again if these goofballs don't all smoke a little weed and chillax.  |
| 6ixStringJack: I can't honestly answer that question one way or the other for sure. But my gut tells me that trying to erase the past is not the right way to go about it. Most of us are probably to blame for it ourselves too. We don't really seem to care much about the past outside of the few who really are called to learning about History and making that their life. I want to care more than I do. I want everyone as a whole to care a lot more about the past than they do. I mean, really care about it and learning all about it through decades of part-time, enthusiastic study and not just repeating a sound byte they heard somebody say that morning that made them feel good inside, yanno? |
| 6ixStringJack: Made me think of a movie you'd probably like too if you haven't seen it. You ever see "Ghost World"? It's got Steve Bucemi, Scarlet Johanson and I think it was the daughter on American Beauty, but I don't remember her name right now. That's a smart movie, even though nothing really of consequence actually happens, it makes you think. We've whitewashed a lot of fairly recent history, and how people in general and in groups behaved and what they did and thought... whether it's written words or local artwork and advertisements and pretty much anything that would have given implications and context of the time as well as allowed for inferences of people today going back and seeing this stuff. Over time, somebody took most of it away from us. I guess the question is, is that for the better or for the worse for all of us if you bury the past completely and pretend the past wasn't important or didn't even exist in the first place? |
| 6ixStringJack: But yeah. That was OG Ghost Rider. I thought they brought him back in the 90's, but it was actually in the early 80's I read the other day. Maybe it was '82? Probably gave him a decade or 15 years off in between and brought him back as a dark and scary skeleton man with his head on fire on a motorcycle because it's 1982 and motorcycles kick ass! By that time, I'm sure pretty much everybody forgot about Possibly-Klanny OG Grandpappy Ghost Rider without no internet to remind 'em. Man... I'm getting a kick out of just thinking about how all of this had to go down IRL. |
| 6ixStringJack: But when our old man gave us some of his old comics for Christmas every year out of his big pile of stuff that wasn't worth nothin', we just loved how awesome everything looked. And how those comics that were well read and not taken care of had that old musty comic book smell to them. And how he had a range of books from WWII propaganda like "Our Army At War!", to cowboy Ghost Rider, to my favorites like The Vault of Horror and Weird Science / Weird Fantasy. Those were all in terrible shape and stuff he got from other kids who just had them as hand me downs when their older brothers left home without em I guess. So it's funny to see the old Ghost Rider today and almost cringe a bit thinking "Yeah. I don't see that flying in the 2020's.". |
| 6ixStringJack: Yeah. Isn't that Ghost Rider artwork awesome? I could see how over the years people could have looked at it, with the full white color, and said.... "Ummmmmmm... Sir... I think we need to retire this character for 50 or 60 years." |
| 6ixStringJack: But feel free to hit up either one when you're finally man enough to own your loss(es). |
| 6ixStringJack: Oh. My apologies. That's the other thread you ran away from this week. Your reply is necessitated here: [go to link] |
| 6ixStringJack: If you've got time to spam dumb cartoons, Theodore, you have time to reply to your thread. Your presence is necessitated here: [go to link] |
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