Brenda: True in some ways. But with Sir John A's government wanting settlers to out to the Prairies. And the settlers wanted assurances that the government would keep them safe. Hence the formation of the RCMP, which was the first law West of Ontario and also the first military Canada had. After the third time Riel knew that the RCMP would be coming for him |
Brenda: Yes, it was after the 3rd time he was elected. It always comes back to his involvement with the Red River Rebellion and the North-West Rebellion, which crossed from Manitoba to Saskatchewan and then into Alberta. They used these against him all three times. |
6ixStringJack: I guess the same way they did anything back then, right. Probably not too much different there than what we still do today. They've just got to be way better at hiding these things as time has gone on. |
6ixStringJack: But he would have been expelled after the 3rd election, right? How did they continue to block him for 2 full terms before he won the third time and went full-on threatening mode against him, I wonder. |
Brenda: His inability to take up his seat even though he signed the registry for Parliament, goes back to the Red River Uprising. The government I think was afraid that he could cause another uprising and this time not on the Prairies but in Quebec. This fear was because Quebec claimed him as one of their own and could lead them to taking up arms. So, he was expelled from Parliament and that was when he fled to the US. |
6ixStringJack: So how does that work? The Canadian Government can subvert the will of the people like that? He was elected 3 times but unable to serve? |
Brenda: Here's another interesting fact. M. Riel was in fact elected to Parliament 3 times but never allowed to take his seat for Manitoba. The reason being his involvement with the Red River Uprising. I admit I had to look up how many times he was elected. High school history was a long time ago.  |
Brenda: Our senate unlike yours really doesn't hold any power. They are appointed by the Prime Minister or the Governor General to be there. Sometimes like with Riel's case both chambers had to agree before it could be announced to the public. |
Brenda: He did and any descendants he may have still. Well, it was done by a Resolution in Parliament. Which means that Parliament agreed that he was innocent after reviewing his case but they still needed the Senate to agree as well. |
6ixStringJack: Looks like Riel got some justice after all. That's good. What do you mean that the Feds still have to do something though? |
Brenda: Double post here and I don't know how I did it last night. Good grief! |
Brenda: Little mistake the lawyers didn't do it. It was just Parliament and our Senate declared him innocent in1992. But still that is something for the Feds to do.
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Brenda: Little mistake the lawyers didn't do it. It was just Parliament and our Senate declared him innocent in1992. But still that is something for the Feds to do.
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Brenda: Just did a quick search and Riel's conviction was overturned by Parliament in 1992 and he is officially listed as the founder of Manitoba.
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Brenda: French names get misspelled up here all the time. Especially out west. Mind, you wouldn't believe the mess I've seen out of my last name and it is Scottish. Scot is the proper word for someone from Scotland. I don't know how many times I've had to spell it and my dad went through the same routine. That gets old real quick.
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Brenda: No worries. I'm doing some stuff for my book and I'm having trouble keeping track of my tenses.  |
Brenda: It's over-turn in the lawyer world. In my mind and a lot of Metis and some whites don't think he should have been hung. All he wanted was to secure a place for his people along with the Cree and that broadened to other peoples. Good ideas and not that far a head of their time. Least they got to name the province, Manitoba. Which when looking it up is from the Cree word "Man-into-wahpaow. And that translates to "the narrows of the Great Spirit." Manitoba has a lot of lakes. |
Brenda: Talk about some one you should have his license pulled for those DUIs. That's horrible. |
Brenda: Ouch, sorry that your one buddy lost his job. That is rough when an employer won't cut you a break. You know they say. Money talks. |
6ixStringJack: Riel* |