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Fox & Friends: Occupy Wall Street is “full of felons and drug users.”

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:33 AM

NIKI2

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The Occupy Wall Street demonstrations that started in New York City on Sept. 16 have now turned in to a national movement. There are more than 70 ongoing demonstrations across the country, with New York City, Los Angeles, Denver, Phoenix and Miami seeing some of the largest turnouts. Police and protestors have had heated confrontations, leading to hundreds of arrests in New York and Boston.

But some public personalities still refuse to take the movement seriously. From elected officials to TV news anchors, people who’ve invested in the status quo are up in arms to brush off the movement that’s trying to hold it accountable. Here are five of the most demeaning cheap shots we’ve seen so far.

5 of the Dumbest Things Said About the Occupy Wall Street Movement

Fox and Friends: Occupy Wall Street is “full of felons and drug users.”

No big surprise here, but it’s still sort of fascinating to see just what Fox News will come up with next. This time around Fox News’s “Fox & Friends” presented a selective sampling of who they see out protesting: “convicted criminals, methadone felons and professional handcuff-lock-pickers.” And it gets better. According to the hosts, demonstrators are only showing up for the free food.

Newt Gingrich: Occupy Wall Street is full of “dumb ideas.”

Newt Gingrich was a guest on CBS’s “Face the Nation” this past weekend and called the protesters “dumb and uneducated.”
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“We have had a strain of hostility to free enterprise and frankly, a strain of hostility to classic America starting in our academic institutions and spreading across this country and I regard the Wall Street protesters as a natural outcome of a bad education system teaching them really dumb ideas.”

He’s also called Occupy Wall Street demonstrators “stupid” on his radio show.

Rep. Peter King: “We must stop those ragtag mobs and anarchists before they actually change policy.”

Congressman Peter King (R-N.Y.) was a guest on The Laura Ingraham Show and talked about how he’s afraid that the growing number of Occupy Wall Street protesters, along with the media coverage of the movement, may end up shaping U.S. government policy — much like the anti-war protesters did in the 1960s and ’70s.
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“The fact is these people are anarchists. They have no idea what they’re doing out there,” King said. “They have no sense of purpose other than a basically anti-American tone and anti-capitalist. It’s a ragtag mob basically.

"We have to be careful not to allow this to get any legitimacy,” he said, adding “I’m taking this seriously in that I’m old enough to remember what happened in the 1960s when the left-wing took to the streets and somehow the media glorified them and it ended up shaping policy. We can’t allow that to happen.”



Monica Crowley (Fox News again): Wall Street protestors are “useful idiots who probably haven’t paid much in taxes their whole life.”

On Monday, conservative radio and television commentator Monica Crowley was a guest on Fox News’ “Your World.” She got right down to business, generalizing the protesters as working class kids, aging hippies, and Obama supporters.

Herman Cain: Occupy Wall Street protesters are a bunch of “jealous Americans” who “play the victim card” and want to “take somebody else’s Cadillac.”

Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain seems to have a daily insult for Occupy Wall Street. On CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday Cain said called the protesters “jealous” Americans who “play the victim card” and want to “take somebody else’s” Cadillac.

Last week, he also told Wall Street demonstrators not to blame Wall Street, but to blame themselves: “Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself!” Cain said. “It is not a person’s fault if they succeeded, it is a person’s fault if they failed.” http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/10/5_dumbest_things_said_about_occ
upy_wall_street.html

Gee whiz, given the dramatic choices of words and the sources, y'think maybe they're scared or something? Nah...

Talk about CRAZY...



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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:38 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



There are quite a few kids of the very wealthy, the bored brats of the 1%, ditching classes and trying to find some radical Left wing tail to chase....

But yeah, Fox & Friends has it spot on.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:52 AM

NIKI2

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DO YOU SEE PEOPLE?!? How can any sane person say AND ACTUALLY MEAN that the insanity Fox and Friends spewed has ANY connection to reality? If you ever wanted an example of the game he plays, here it is, in "white and black" as it were. Pay attention!


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:57 AM

AURAPTOR

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Not a druggie or a homeless guy, I'm sure...




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:01 AM

M52NICKERSON

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....and most likely not a guy defecating on a police car.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:03 AM

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:10 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
....and most likely not a guy defecating on a police car.




Well, it certainly is that, so I guess you're agreeing that this Wall St. protester could be either or a druggie / homeless bum ?

So we agree! Super.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:13 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Well, it certainly is that,



Really? How do you know?

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:26 AM

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There are... Other pictures. A series, showing the progression of... events. You might not want to ask AuRaptor for more details.

Though we do lack confirmation that this person really was part of the Occupiers movement.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:31 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Well, it certainly is that,



Really? How do you know?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Sho
cking-photos-protester-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html#ixzz1aTc8tXcL


Aside from the one 'crazy' individual, doing whatever he's doing to a cop car, the nice protesters are leaving their own mess behind...



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:36 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Really the Daily Mail....let me laugh harder.

I do like how they claim that they have more shocking photos but were censored.




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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:40 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Really the Daily Mail....let me laugh harder.

I do like how they claim that they have more shocking photos but were censored.



The guy has dropped trow and has his cheeks up against a cop car. Maybe you have some sort of fetish that you need to see what's been reported, but I for one don't care to see that. If nothing else, he's doing more than merely mooning the cop car.

Seriously, the level of childish denial on your part is exceptional.


You dismiss that it happened, I show you photos and the written report, you STILL deny it.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:41 AM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

I abhor such displays. I can't imagine what could possibly move anyone to defecate on a police car.

That is not speech. It is vandalism and unsafe.

Here is another picture of abhorrent protest action:




--Anthony



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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:43 AM

AURAPTOR

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wow Anthony... photographic evidence that there ARE hot chicks down there.





" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:57 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The guy has dropped trow and has his cheeks up against a cop car. Maybe you have some sort of fetish that you need to see what's been reported, but I for one don't care to see that. If nothing else, he's doing more than merely mooning the cop car.

Seriously, the level of childish denial on your part is exceptional.


You dismiss that it happened, I show you photos and the written report, you STILL deny it.



You showed me photos of a man with his pants down leaning against a police car. The reporter states he was told by eye witnesses, not that he saw it himself, that is hearsay. Plus it is the Daily Mail.

Find me one source that does not refer back to the Daily Mail then I will believe you.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:02 AM

AURAPTOR

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No, you won't. You're going to simply ignore anything I say, out of hand, because you have nothing to deny that it took place.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:10 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

No, you won't. You're going to simply ignore anything I say, out of hand, because you have nothing to deny that it took place.



Try me.

...but have fun finding another source.

See it looks very much to me that the man is looking down at his inner leg or crotch. Not to mention that somewhere would be photos of the after math showing the fecal matter. This is the internet. I can find pictures of Bat-Boy having sex with a one armed Canadian transvestite midget while a Shetland pony looks on from a trampoline. So if what the Daily Mail is claiming to be true there would be more photos around.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:13 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Here is a sampling of the participants of Occupy Wall Street and some of the headlines--each one is a story.








'Protest Chaplains' Shepherd Movement's Spiritual Side










Hundreds Join For Yom Kippur Service At Occupy Wall Street


Ben & Jerry's Announces Support For Occupy Wall Street


Art Occupies Wall Street


Occupy Boston Demonstrators Help The Homeless


On Foggy Bottom March, Protesters At World Bank, IMF Thank Police


Talking To OccupyWallStreet Protesters


Occupy Wall Street Protests Coming To Canada

Now, are those nothing but druggies, hippies, etc., etc.? I think not. Art, helping the homeless, Yom Kippur, chaplains...yeah, all a mob of crazies who are gonna kill you all, right?

Some of the headlines:
Occupy Wall Street Protesters Can Stay Indefinitely: Bloomberg
Occupy Wall Street: Egyptian Activist Goes 'From Liberation Square To Washington Square'
Greta Van Susteren: Occupy Wall Street Is 'Peaceful,' Exercises First Amendment
Rick Santorum: The Occupy Wall Street Movement Has A Legitimate Claim
Patriotic Millionaires Echo Occupy Wall Street
Freedom Plaza Protests: U.S. Park Police Offers 4-Month Permit Extension


Now, contrast that with these:
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Ann Coulter: Occupy Wall Street Protesters Are Like Nazis. Coulter was speaking to Fox Business' Eric Bolling, who seemed to share her less-than-charitable views of the protests, which have gained widespread attention and sparked similar demonstrations in cities across the U.S.

Bolling first quoted the protesters' use of the phrases, "demolition of capitalism" and "if we can learn to share we can all live in prosperity," and asked Coulter for her reaction. Coulter responded quickly that these terms could have been said right "before the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, and with only slight modification when the Nazis were coming to power...This is always the beginning of totalitarianism."

Coulter also stated that the Democratic Party loves "mob uprising" as it is their "path to power" and that Democrats "always assume that the mob leaders will remain mob leaders and not end up like Maximilien Robespierre, beheaded a couple years after the revolution began, that is often the way revolutions go."

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Glenn Beck: Occupy Wall Street Protesters Will 'Kill Everybody' "Nancy Pelosi, you really think these people are your friends?" Beck asked. "Are you that stupid? People around Nancy Pelosi, are you this stupid? Do you really think that you're going to be able to somehow or another control these people?"

Beck then made the first of his dark analogies. Saying that the only thing that could control the movement would be a forceful crushing from "the top," he added, "It will be the Night of Long Knives. It will be a purging of this country." This was a seeming reference to the political murders carried out by the Nazis in 1934.

Beck then turned to "capitalists," and here his warning was even starker and more graphic:

"Capitalists, if you think that you can play footsies with these people, you're wrong. They will come for you and drag you into the streets and kill you...they're Marxist radicals...these guys are worse than Robespierre from the French Revolution...they'll kill everybody."

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Herman Cain On Occupy Wall Street: 'If You Don't Have A Job And You're Not Rich, Blame Yourself' Businessman-turned-GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain sat down with the Wall Street Journal for a recent interview and gave an unsympathetic analysis of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street movement, suggesting it was staged and driven by "anti-capitalism."

Asked by the Journal's Alan Murray about his thoughts on the demonstrations, which initially began in New York City and have since spread around the country, Cain responded:
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"I don't have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself! ... It is not a person's fault if they succeeded, it is a person's fault if they failed."
Cain went on to admit that the banks had something to do with the economic crisis of 2008, but pointed out that it was now 2011, seemingly downplaying any lasting effects of the practices of big banks and Wall Street.

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Rep. Peter King Calls Occupy Wall Street Protesters 'Ragtag Mob,' 'Anarchists' "The fact is these people are anarchists. They have no idea what they're doing out there," King said. "They have no sense of purpose other than a basically anti-American tone and anti-capitalist. It's a ragtag mob basically."

King, whose Long Island district includes many Wall Street commuters, dismissed the demonstrators as "a bunch of angry 1960s do-overs" trying "to create chaos and take away the focus on the Obama record."

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Tea Party Leaders Dub Wall Street Movement 'Human Sea Of Discontent' Not that Reps. Allen West (R-Fla.) or Steve King (R-Iowa) think OWS has anything legitimate to say, or that they sympathize at all with the anger that has been on display in protests from New York to California. Indeed, the lawmakers see the protests as artificial.

West laughed when asked if he could identify at all with the protesters. "No, I don't," he said, adding that their movement was not genuine. "I don't see what the point is, and I think it's going to backfire because when you peel the onion back, you find out who's behind it and who's financing it -- it's not a true grassroots movement. It's not a true statement."

Critics said the same thing of the Tea Party movement in its earliest days, pointing to funding and organization provided by well-funded groups like FreedomWorks.

King also suspected unions are behind the movement, but found it far less amusing than West.

"I look at the signs that are there -- it's a human sea of discontent," King said, adding that he spotted anarchists in the crowds on TV. "This is the Left looking for a cause," he said. He also added that he's "seen no evidence" that the movement is organic.

He did not buy that they were angered by the the lack of regulation that sparked the ongoing housing crisis. "Aren't they volunteering to live in the street without housing right now? So it can't be very important to them, I would think," he said.

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Eric Cantor Condemns Occupy Wall Street 'Mobs': They're 'Pitting Americans Against Americans' Top House GOP leaders assured attendees at the 2011 Values Voter Summit Friday morning that despite all the attention on fixing the nation's economy, they remain committed to pushing the priorities of social conservatives.

Cantor used part of his address to attack the Occupy Wall Street protests, and he condemned political leaders who are supporting them.

"This administration's failed policies have resulted in an assault on many of our nation's bedrock principles," he said. "If you read the newspapers today, I, for one, am increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying Wall Street and the other cities across the country. And believe it or not, some in this town, have actually condoned the pitting of Americans against Americans. But you sent us here to fight for you and all Americans."

But when he spoke at the Values Voter Summit in 2009, Cantor expressed a very different sentiment toward another movement that was arguably "pitting Americans against Americans" -- the Tea Party.

At that time, Cantor praised those protesters as "fighting on the fighting lines of what we know is a battle for our democracy.”

"People are beginning to wake up and see a country they don’t really recognize," said Cantor.

Which ones sound more insane to you?

Then there's:

She Said We Should Expect To Be Beaten And Pepper-Sprayed"

Inside The Experience Of A Jailed Journalist During Occupy Wall Street

NYPD Officer Arrested After Pepper-Spraying Bar Patron

Video Appears To Show NYPD Officer Striking Occupy Wall Street Activists With Baton

NYPD Investigating Occupy Wall Street Pepper Spray Incidents

Protest Pepper-Spray Cop Had Previous Complaints Against Him

After Mass Arrests, TWU Says NYPD Can't Use Its Drivers:
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On Saturday, 744 people, protesting as part of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street movement, were penned and arrested as they marched across the Brooklyn Bridge. The NYPD, strapped for a way to take so many prisoners to city precincts, commandeered five MTA buses and their drivers. According to The New York Daily News, Union President John Samuelsen called ordering bus drivers to drive prisoners "a blatant act of political retaliation."

"This was a peaceful protest until the police came along,” Samuelsen told The New York Post, adding that cops are technically allowed to commandeer bus drivers in case of an emergency but scoffed at the notion that Saturday’s events were even close to crossing that threshold.

“This is not 9/11. There was no state of emergency whatsoever. They have no right to press our bus operators into performing emergency services,” he said.

And lastly, turns out there IS a statement from them. It's called the "Declaration of the Occupation of New York City" and states:
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As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.

They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.

They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.

They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.

Well, aside from the animals thing, the student loans (whether education should be a right or not, I'm on the fence about when it comes to higher education) and the generic medicine, I don't see anything there that isn't true. JMHO.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:31 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

No, you won't. You're going to simply ignore anything I say, out of hand, because you have nothing to deny that it took place.



Try me.

...but have fun finding another source.



Lots of others are reporting it, but if the Daily Mail is the literal SOURCE of the story, then why ask me to find ANOTHER source ?

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See it looks very much to me that the man is looking down at his inner leg or crotch.




No, he's got his pants down to his knees, ready to take a dump on a cop car.

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Not to mention that somewhere would be photos of the after math showing the fecal matter. This is the internet. I can find pictures of Bat-Boy having sex with a one armed Canadian transvestite midget while a Shetland pony looks on from a trampoline. So if what the Daily Mail is claiming to be true there would be more photos around.


So, you're ignoring what evidence there IS, and instead basing your view on what you think SHOULD be there, as your reason for doubting the validity of the story ? * laugh * This reminds me of the times I debated young earth creationists, who'd turned a blind eye to all the fossil evidence for evolution, because there wasn't the sort of evidence they claim SHOULD have been found. Unfingbelievable.

Find me the bat-boy having sex with ANY transvestite... go ahead, I'll wait. ( And don't forget the pony)

If the Daily Mail says they're censoring their own photos... where else are you gonna go ?

Funny, as the Left claims that Dem congress members were called the N-word and spat upon, there's zero evidence of any of that happening.

And to be honest, even IF those pics were posted somewhere, I'd not post them, here, or anywhere.

You'll just have to trust me , and the Daily Mail, on this one. Ignore the story at your own peril.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:36 AM

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Folks, just allow Rappy and his hard right cohorts their moment to defend their corporate overlords.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:42 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Nice try, Raptor. Unfortunately, it appears there's more it than that:
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As if this has never happened before in New York City, a man allegedly defecated on a cop car. What makes this specific incident different from any other day in Manhattan is that there also happens to be a pretty big protest going on. The target of the protest? Wall Street.

Whether or not the defecating man is actually a protester is up for discussion. It’s possible. It’s also possible that he’s one of New York’s 40,000 homeless people. The third possibility is that the man was a right-wing media plant. What would make me think that? Well, first off, the picture was taken by professional photographer, Stephen Jeremiah. Behind the story, are known right-wing fabricator, Andrew Breitbart and the right-wing British rag, The Daily Mail. What are the odds that a photographer-for-hire would happen to be in the right place at the right time for an “incriminating” picture? Your guess is as good as mine. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/10/new-york-man-defecates-on-cop-
car-media-goes-crazy
/

Which pretty much makes up MY mind, thank you. The photo is on the front page of Breitbart's website, "Big Journalism", enlarged, with the headline: "OWS Defecates On Cop Cars, Vandalizes Property, Pelosi Says “Bless Them”" I don't really need to know more, and it's pretty obvious where Raptor got his "material".

I DO read, at the cite Raptor put up: "Trash has built up in spite of best efforts by some demonstrators" and "Elsewhere we found piles of stinking refuse clogging Zuccotti Park, despite the best efforts of many of the protesters to keep the area clean." Ergo, there are efforts being made, and I don't know how you clean up after such a huge crowd.

One more time: C'MON PEOPLE, GET A CLUE! The "Daily Mail" isn't censoring anything, they've got the shot they want and are spewing it all over the internet. Raptor is either a gullible fool or, again, he's PLAYING HIS GAME!

eta: What's truly sad is it's been splattered all over the internet...if you do a search, notice that most of the websites posting it are right wingers, and all the commentors immediately accepted it was for real. That's how it works, folks, and Breitbart knows how to work it.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:45 AM

BYTEMITE


Nick: Guess that goes to show that I shouldn't just take people's word for it when they say they have pictures of something. On the other hand, I REALLY didn't want to look and find out for sure. Not that I care one way or another about a taxpayer paid police car for an overfunded police department.

I still think there's something fishy about this whole movement though, I don't trust it.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:48 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Niki -

The photographer was down there, covering a story. Duh.

And Breitbart ? He's not a 'fabricator', in the least. So you citing this extremely far Left wing editorial as proof of, well , anything, is laughable.

The crowds aren't that big. Many x's more TEA party folks would show up and produce far less garbage than what these few nut cases are piling up, along the side of the street.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:55 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


See? Breitbart is no fabricator--even tho' his people have spent time in JAIL for fabrication and it's been proven over and over and OVER the fraud and lies he's perpetrated. A for-hire photographer just HAPPENED to be were ONE GUY shit on a police car? In all those thousands of people, he just happened to find the right one, just at the moment he did that. Surrrre...

Doesn't matter where the facts come from, they ARE the facts. That the guy is a professional photog, the Daily Mail is a known rag, and Breitbart's the only one to come up with such a disgusting picture is all anyone needs to know.

Come ON. Get a grip, folks, he's playing you again.

I notice no response to all the photos of the OWS crowds showing people who I seriously doubt are "rich kids", "hippies", "druggies", "felons"--and all the dramatic things in the quotes I posted make them out to be. Enough already; what the extremist pundits on the right are saying is insane, period. There are photos to show it. They're scared, they want to protect their position...nobody talks like that when they're trying to seriously debate something...nor does anyone EVER talk like Raptor when they're trying to make serious points. It's all blatantly clear, why anyone tries to debate with him is a mystery.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:01 PM

AURAPTOR

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'His people' have spent time in jail? Really? Cites, please.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:15 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I should go to a more interesting thread, but it only took a second:
Quote:

Yesterday, ACORN videographer James O'Keefe was arrested for an alleged plot to interfere with* Sen. Mary Landrieu's phone. Andrew Breitbart, whose website BigGovernment.com published O'Keefe's ACORN videos, stated that he pays O'Keefe a "fair salary" so that "when he puts a story out there, it's on the Breitbart sites, the Big sites, that he can tell people what transpired." http://mediamatters.org/blog/201001260064 you need another source:
Quote:

O'Keefe was recently arrested and charged with falsely identifying himself in order to commit a federal felony in the offices of a Democratic U.S. Senator. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7708 don't give a damn what you think of the sources, prove the FACTS are wrong if you want to refute them.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:17 PM

BYTEMITE


Initial news reports did say there had been some arrests, due to an effort by the Occupiers to block off the Brooklyn bridge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/30/occupy-wall-street-protests-n
ew-york_n_989221.html


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/02/national/main20114436.shtml

Does in fact mean jail time.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:17 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Yeah, Niki, heard all about O'keefe, but you said BREITBART. O'Keefe was acting on his own, as he's a freelance reporter, and you've yet to show where AB has fabricated anything.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:33 PM

BYTEMITE


Ah. Misunderstood which group and which jail time was being asked about cites for.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:40 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Byte, it's not about arrests of the Occupy Wall Street demonstrators, but about Breitbart's O'Keefe, who was arrested trying to but Mary Landrau's office.

Also, from what I've read/heard, they weren't trying to block off the bridge. They were on the sidewalk and the crowd spilled over onto the roadway, which got them arrested.

That's it. O'keefe works for Breitbart, that's been established, and he was arrested. I'm not getting into one of your cute back-and-forths, Raptor. You haven't responded to the stuff I put up, much more than Breitbart's idiocy, so why should I bother? Nothing I posted THERE was false, either, so go play with yourself, please.


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:46 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Conservative news media figure Andrew Breitbart revealed last night on Hugh Hewitt's radio show that he pays a salary to James O'Keefe, the filmmaker who was charged yesterday in an alleged attempt to tamper witt the phones of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA).
Quote:

Andrew Breitbart, whose website BigGovernment.com published O'Keefe's ACORN videos, stated that he pays O'Keefe a "fair salary"
Quote:

HH: Do you pay him for that?

AB: Yes.

HH: And are you free to tell me how much you pay him?

AB: I’ll…perhaps at another date, but he’s paid a fair salary.

HH: Is he…so he is an employee?

AB: I’m not sure that’s technically the thing, but yes, he’s paid for his life rights.




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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:48 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

And to be honest, even IF those pics were posted somewhere, I'd not post them, here, or anywhere.



That is a cop out...

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You'll just have to trust me , and the Daily Mail, on this one. Ignore the story at your own peril.



....and that is the funnest thing I have heard today.


Since you like pictures, how about a Tea Party sign!






I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:58 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Niki, thanks for validating what I was saying.

Breitbart paid for the services, he himself didn't direct or instruct O'Keefe to do anything illegal.

Glad we got that cleared up.


And nickerson, props for trying to change the subject. I figured as much from you.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:02 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Not a druggie or a homeless guy, I'm sure...




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Not a protester, either, as far as I can see. Do you have video of this guy marching around with a sign?


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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:12 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And nickerson, props for trying to change the subject. I figured as much from you.



You keep bring up the Tea Party and how there is no proof of them yelling the N word. Your right about the one incident. There is plenty of pictures of Tea Party members holding racist, or hateful, or stupid signs.

It is the pot calling the kettle black.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:26 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Posted by Rappy:



If the Daily Mail says they're censoring their own photos... where else are you gonna go ?

Funny, as the Left claims that Dem congress members were called the N-word and spat upon, there's zero evidence of any of that happening.



And as you insist that no such thing ever possibly could have happened, or there would HAVE to be video of it happening.

So where's the video of this incident, which you keep claiming happened just the way you were told by someone who was told it happened?

No photos, no proof. Your rules, remember?

Quote:



You'll just have to trust me , and the Daily Mail, on this one.



No, I really won't, on either account.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

I DO read, at the cite Raptor put up: "Trash has built up in spite of best efforts by some demonstrators" and "Elsewhere we found piles of stinking refuse clogging Zuccotti Park, despite the best efforts of many of the protesters to keep the area clean." Ergo, there are efforts being made, and I don't know how you clean up after such a huge crowd.



Funny thing is, the city usually cleans up after such things. Oddly, the protesters support paying taxes for such services.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Breitbart paid for the services, he himself didn't direct or instruct O'Keefe to do anything illegal.



But he'll certainly put it on the front page when his paid employees DO go out and do something illegal, won't he?

And then he'll pretend he didn't know. Just like Murdoch and his phone hacking.

Glad we got that cleared up.



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:17 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


FOX is being somewhat whingy about this.

Our protesters have been polite, respectful, kind, orderly and seem to be ordinary folk. My friend who does a lot of protesting and helped plan this one is super excited about it all. She is very far left, but the general feelings of the protesters are things I can agree with, with the exception of that weird list we figured out was a fraud and only represented one person's opinion, not the opinion of all involved.
We had the marithon on Sun. and our protesters cooperated well, some of them helped with the marithon, the ones who needed to move moved and then came back afterwords, its all been a reasonable and orderly affair in my city.

As for the grotty pictures, there are some bad apples in every treeful.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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