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Monday, March 26, 2012 9:02 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Hunger Games. Seen it?

(Or, as I think of it... "PTSD fuel".)

Opinions?



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"




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Monday, March 26, 2012 9:35 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


I take back all the ok things I said about you...

The party's over here:
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Monday, March 26, 2012 9:42 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Give me a break... I've been gone for a while...

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Monday, March 26, 2012 10:17 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Give me a break... I've been gone for a while...

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

Donald Sutherland was in both Hunger Games and Buffy, the movie. To quote Joss Whedon about Sutherland, “He's a prick. . . . the thing is, he acts well enough that you didn't notice, with his little rewrites, and his little ideas about what his character should do, that he was actually destroying the movie . . .” - www.avclub.com/articles/joss-whedon,13730/

With perfect casting, Sutherland is playing evil President Snow. Joss and everybody else want to see him die horribly.

Select to view spoiler:


That will have to wait for the final movie in the series. Remember where Harry Potter kicks Lord Voldemort's ass? The big bad boss finally getting what he deserved? Katniss Everdeen will Harry Potter President Snow's ass.

Quoting from near the end of the 3rd Hunger book:

When they march Snow out the door, the audience goes insane. They secure his hands behind a post, which is unnecessary. He’s not going anywhere. There’s nowhere to go. This is not the roomy stage before the Training Center but the narrow terrace in front of the president’s mansion. No wonder no one bothered to have me practice. He’s ten yards away.

I feel the bow purring in my hand. Reach back and grasp the arrow. Position it, aim at the rose, but watch his face. He coughs and a bloody dribble runs down his chin. His tongue flicks over his puffy lips. I search his eyes for the slightest sign of anything, fear, remorse, anger. But there’s only the same look of amusement that ended our last conversation. It’s as if he’s speaking the words again. “Oh, my dear Miss Everdeen. I thought we had agreed not to lie to each other.”

He’s right. We did.

The point of my arrow shifts upward. I release the string. And . . .

Ouch!

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, March 26, 2012 10:32 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Never liked Donald Sutherland, personally. But, sigh, since it's all over the place, I guess I gotta ask: What IS "Hunger Games"?



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Monday, March 26, 2012 10:36 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Never liked Donald Sutherland, personally. But, sigh, since it's all over the place, I guess I gotta ask: What IS "Hunger Games"?




You realize you're on the internet, right?

Spoon!

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Monday, March 26, 2012 11:47 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Its a book. (A series actually)

Paper.

Words.

Ideas.

Scary stuff.



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:04 PM

BYTEMITE


Dystopian survivalist literature satirizing reality television.

Also where a lot of the Twilight fans went off to when the 4th book broke the base, which means a significant number of them aren't there for the social commentary but rather the romance nonsense.

I've never read it, but I can make some guesses just based on human nature... And for that reason I tend to avoid teenage fans of anything in general. Fortunately, I think the two influences might actually balance out.

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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:12 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Not sure what you meant, Story, about being on the internet. Since I don't know what Hunger Games IS, I can't know how it relates to the internet.

Wulf; it's a movie. I know it came from a book, that's a really stupid post, and I know it's now a movie. What it's ABOUT is what I was asking. But thanx for not answering.

Thanx, Byte, that's the closest thing to an answer I've gotten yet. From what I've read HERE, I kinda got the impression it was dystopian, but that's all I know. I see it on the cover of those mags they put at checkout counters and notice it on news website, but I have no idea what it's about, which is why I asked.



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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:12 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Yeah, don't read it.

Its "where a lot of the Twilight fans went off to when the 4th book broke the base".

Yep.

Absolutely.

Don't bother.

Its just silly.

(Is there an echo in here?)

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:15 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Not sure what you meant, Story, about being on the internet. Since I don't know what Hunger Games IS, I can't know how it relates to the internet.



I meant - you're on the internet!

There's no excuse to enter a conversation on a topic you are completely unaware of, and ask the participants to catch you up, when you can look up the info yourself in less time than it takes to ask.

Spoon!

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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:58 PM

BYTEMITE


I like a good dystopian book, the problem is I don't like hollywoodized dystopia. The important messages and actual real world parallels get drowned out by what seems "cool."

Technically none of this is "cool." I read this stuff to be informed.

And I will absolutely judge a series by it's fanbase. If it's failing at getting a certain message across, it's an indication of the writing in general.

There's a lot of books that I don't read but still know what they're about. Mostly because there's a lot of books that I don't have to read to get the point and which would just be a waste of my time.

Frankly, Wulf, the bigger danger to this society isn't ending up living in District Thirteen, it's ending up living in the Capital and not realizing how bad the Capital is. That's why I don't like it. Sounding the alarm on the wrong thing.

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Monday, March 26, 2012 1:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:


Wulf; it's a movie. I know it came from a book, that's a really stupid post, and I know it's now a movie. What it's ABOUT is what I was asking. But thanx for not answering.




You're asking Wulfie for information about a *book*? A young adult's book, no less? Don't you realize that's well above his reading comprehension level?!

Movie's getting decent reviews, looks poised to be THE big blockbuster of the year, and there's still at least a couple more to go in the series. Might be just the thing for kids, adolescents, and young adults suffering from Harry Potter withdrawal.

Almost anything that gets kids reading and keeps them reading is okay with me, and this series should get them thinking and questioning, too. And asking questions is the first step in critical thinking.

From the Wiki, to catch you up a bit:

Quote:

The Hunger Games is a young adult novel written by Suzanne Collins. It was first published on September 14, 2008, by Scholastic, in hardcover. It is written in the voice of sixteen-year-old Katniss Everdeen, who lives in a post-apocalyptic world in the country of Panem where the countries of North America once existed. The Capitol, a highly advanced metropolis, holds absolute power over the rest of the nation. The Hunger Games are an annual event in which one boy and one girl aged 12 to 18 from each of the 12 districts surrounding the Capitol are selected by lottery to compete in a televised battle in which only one person can survive.

The book has been released as a paperback and also an audiobook and e-book. The Hunger Games had an initial print of 200,000 – twice doubled from the original 50,000. Since its initial release, the novel has been translated into 26 different languages and rights of production have been sold in 38 countries. The book received mostly positive reviews from major reviewers and authors. The Hunger Games is the first novel in The Hunger Games trilogy, followed by Catching Fire, published on September 1, 2009, and Mockingjay, published on August 24, 2010.

A film adaptation, co-written and co-produced by Collins herself and directed by Gary Ross, was released worldwide on March 23, 2012. The film stars Jennifer Lawrence as Katniss, Josh Hutcherson as Peeta, and Liam Hemsworth as Gale.


Inspiration and origins

Collins says that the inspiration to write The Hunger Games came from channel surfing on television. On one channel she observed people competing on a reality show and on another she saw footage of the invasion of Iraq. The two "began to blur in this very unsettling way" and the idea for the book was formed. The Greek myth of Theseus served as basis for the story, with Collins describing Katniss as a futuristic Theseus, and that Roman gladiatorial games formed the framework. The sense of loss that Collins developed through her father's service in the Vietnam War also affected the story, whose heroine lost her father at age eleven, five years before the story begins. Collins stated that the deaths of the young characters and other "dark passages" were the hardest parts of the book to write, but she had accepted she would be writing such scenes. She considered the moments where Katniss reflects on happier moments in her past to be the more enjoyable passages to write.


Plot

The Hunger Games takes place after the destruction of North America by some unknown apocalyptic event, in a nation known as Panem. Panem consists of a wealthy Capitol and twelve surrounding, poorer districts. District 12, where the book begins, is located in the coal-rich region that was formerly Appalachia.

As punishment for a previous rebellion against the Capitol in which a 13th district was destroyed, one boy and one girl between the ages of 12 and 18 from each district are selected by annual lottery to participate in the Hunger Games, an event in which the participants (or "tributes") must fight in an outdoor arena controlled by the Capitol, until only one remains. The story follows 16-year-old Katniss Everdeen, a girl from District 12 who volunteers for the 74th annual Hunger Games in place of her younger sister, Primrose. Also selected from District 12 is Peeta Mellark, a baker's son whom Katniss knows from school, who once gave her bread when her family was starving.

Katniss and Peeta are taken to the Capitol where their drunken mentor, Haymitch Abernathy, victor of the 50th Hunger Games, instructs them to watch and learn the talents of the other tributes. They are then publicly displayed to the Capitol audience in a televised session with interviewer Caesar Flickerman. During this time, Peeta reveals on-air his long-time unrequited love for Katniss. Katniss believes this to be a ploy to gain audience support for the Games, which can be crucial for survival, as audience members are encouraged to send gifts like food, medicine, and tools to favored tributes during the Games. The Games begin with 11 of the 24 tributes dying in the first day, while Katniss relies on her well-practiced hunting and outdoor skills to survive.



To post more would be spoilerish...



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, March 26, 2012 3:10 PM

RIONAEIRE

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If you like Lord of the Flies then you'll like this. My dad went and saw it without me, I was at the zoo that day. He liked it but said it was scary, which it should be, that's the point. I've decided to go ahead and put the books on my list, this means it will be a few years before I actually get to them, there's a whole process etc. because there are so many books on there and I don't have as much reading time as I'd like. I'll watch it when it comes out on video.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise

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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:00 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I understand what you're saying now, Story. But I was asking in order to see what others would say, in other words, both to get information AND to get personal opinions.



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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:40 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Its about the power of the individual, caught up in the horrors of Big Brother Government.

Or, the spark that will AGAIN light the fire years from now.

But don't read it.

You won't like it.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:57 AM

STORYMARK


It's very much about the 99% and how the 1% grinds them into paste. Its an occupy movie.

Im rather suprised Wulfie didn't run screaming.

Spoon!

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