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Classic Misbehavers

POSTED BY: KANEMAN
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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:04 PM

KANEMAN


We seem to like characters that "misbehave". Lets see what we can come up with. Try to keep it sci-fi.

Gius Baltar (BSG)....Deception, disloyalty, dishonesty all done with a character that is quite like-able...shiny indeed.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:38 PM

GIXXER


Avon. Blake's 7.

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Servelan was a bit naughty too, but that was alright...

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:05 PM

RCAT


Ok, a bit obvious, and he ultimately turned to be a good guy...

Han Solo. He is a scoundrel after all.

At age 7, when I first saw starwars, I knew Luke was supposed to be the big hero but I wanted to be Han.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:27 PM

MAGDALENA

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Quote:
Originally posted by Rcat:
Ok, a bit obvious, and he ultimately turned to be a good guy...

Han Solo. He is a scoundrel after all.

At age 7, when I first saw starwars, I knew Luke was supposed to be the big hero but I wanted to be Han.


I was 8 when I saw it - and I, too, wanted the not-so-squeaky-clean to be a BDH!

I always loved to hate Avon too (think I had my first 'fantasy' about him.... Where did my youth go?)

Brody & Doyle (sorry, not so sci fi) from The Proffessionals or the most obvious - Spike!! And I mean even before the whole doin' Buffy phase... getting a soul thing!

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:51 AM

SCHOONER


STOS: Harcore Fentin Mudd - not attractive, not successful, not smart at all, and would admire Jayne's common sense. But the guy had style

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:58 AM

RHODRI


Deep Space 9's Quark, a grand schemer!

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:39 AM

STILLSHINY


Ok I'll weigh in. I happen to root for Dr. Gaius Baltar as well & Six (can't forget Six) (((shiver))) Siiiiiixxxx....... Oh yeah, and I highly doubt either one will get anything but worse.

If you consider Sci-FI / Fantasy then I would also add Spike from Buffy (though I prefer him in Angel Season 5)

and Spike - Cowboy Bebop

and Mugen - Samurai Champloo

Ok I'm done for now.

bit of a stretch but I love pushing the envelope I'd have to say Dr. Gregory House.

Ok now I'm done....really.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:09 AM

CYBERSNARK


Ignoring those mentioned previously, and some of these aren't so much "bad guys" as "chaotic good," but:

Capt. Jack Sparrow
Capt. Barbossa

Capt. Mackenzie Calhoun
Xyon (the Star Wars equivalent of Han Solo)
Gul Dukat
Tom Paris
Shran (from Enterprise)

Talon Karrde
Lando Calrissian
Jaina "Sticks" Solo (When she turned to the Dark Side in NJO)
Nom Anor
Nen Yim
Saba Sebatyne

Tyr Anasazi (Of the Kodiak Pride, out of Victoria by Barbarossa)

Batou (from Stand-Alone Complex)

Kakashi-sensei (from Naruto)

InuYasha
Sesshoumaru
Miroku
Kagura
Kikyo
Naraku
Kouga also qualifies, but I'm not overly fond of him. He's too much of a jerk, not enough redeeming qualities.

Anybody seen the fanvid "Miroku's Guide to Buddhism?" It lists the tenets of proper Buddhist behaviour, while showing how Miroku cheerfully violates every single one (repeatedly, in some cases).


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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:19 AM

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Some obscure 'chaotic good' ones....


Xris (Mag Force 7, Margaret Weis)
Colonel Fitzhugh, Ariel, Eamon, Fal, Pistol, and Chip (Rats, Bats, And Vats, Dave Freer and Eric Flint)

One bad group from the same book...

The Mag'h

And of course...

ANGELUS

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:23 AM

MSG


Have to say I had a huge crush on Avon in my teens watching re-runs of Blake 7 on pbs

As for classic bad/misbehaving guys how about Dracula:)
my favorites would be:
Constantine
Blade
Dorian Gray ( in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen)
Riddick


I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:24 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Xyon (the Star Wars equivalent of Han Solo)

. . .

I can't think of any. I love Han, but other than our BDHs nothing is coming to mind.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:30 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Angelus and Spike have both been mentioned, but if we're going with Buffy/Angel baddies then my all time favourite is Drusilla. Evil, cruel, romantic, intelligent, powerful, psychic and utterly insane. TV heaven! (In a hellish way ... obviously ... )


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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:30 AM

RHODRI


what about Dr Zachary Smith? "Danger Will Robinson!"

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:33 AM

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Forgot about him...

I still feel lonely with my obscure genetically engineered rats and bats...

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:44 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Just remembered Wolverine. Comic Wolverine, not the movie version.

And if there are any Marvel geeks out there ... I'm on Captain America's side but the choice was a lot harder than I thought it would be!


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Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:09 AM

ARCLIGHT


Gulliver "Gully" Foyle, from Alfred Bester's "The Stars My Destination" A Classic.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:11 AM

DAYVE


Roy Batty - Blade Runner

endeavor to persevere...

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:57 AM

MSG


desktop- I just didn't mention him because I thought we were sticking to sci fi, but Wolverine is my idea of ultimate hottie ( not movie guy the comic version) and I do realize what this says about me, but I must say Jean is the dumbest creature on two legs to pick bland oatmeal boyscout Cyclops over Wolverine:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:57 AM

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Funny how I forgot Illyeria...

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:17 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Xyon (the Star Wars equivalent of Han Solo)

. . .
Son of Mackenzie Calhoun (so technically it'd be "Xyon Calhoun" or "Xyon of Calhoun," since Calhoun is the place on Xenex where Mak's from). He turns up in the New Frontiers novels. He's like Han Solo as a twenty-something kid (brash, hot-headed, and prone to spectacularly bad judgement). His ship is called the Lyla, and it has one of the most advanced AIs in the galaxy (about at pre-emotion chip Data's level, not Doc Hologram, 'cause he's a fluke), and a holographic avatar/love-bot.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:19 AM

BELLONA


Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Capt. Jack Sparrow
Capt. Barbossa

oh yeah, cap'n jack's "savvy?" gets me every time. and barbosa being persuaded with the promise of a new hat - classic.

Quote:
Talon Karrde
Lando Calrissian

it's just impossible to not love those two.


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Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:11 PM

MISBEHAVEN


Kara Thrace (A.K.A. Starbuck). Now there's a rebel.

Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:49 PM

TEACHDAIRE


How about Piemuir from the Anne MacCafferey books?

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:29 PM

TRAVELER


Ming The Merciless

His daughter, Princess Aura, was bad at first.
She could hatch a devious plan just like Saffron.
Sometimes Buster Crabbe didn't know what hit him.


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Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:39 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN


Tsavong Lah

Onimi

Thracken Sal-Solo

Mitth'raw'nuruodo

Palpatine

Vader



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Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:20 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Angel, Spike and Drusilla have been mentioned, but not my favorite Buffyverse baddie . . . Mayor Richard Wilkins.




wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:34 PM

MIRCEA


Londo Mulari from B5

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Friday, July 14, 2006 4:26 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:
Originally posted by Bellona:
and barbosa being persuaded with the promise of a new hat - classic.
I just love how Barbossa gets started on a scheme, Jack warns him that it might be a bad idea, Barbossa yells at him and goes on. . . then (miserably) stops himself and grudgingly asks Jack what the problem is.

(It's 'cause he knows Jack's smarter than him, and he's too careful to just charge in.)

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Friday, July 14, 2006 4:28 AM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN


I cant believe I forgot


Ysanne Isard


http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
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98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 4:31 AM

DEEPGIRL187


How about John Crichton (Farscape) or Darien Fawkes (Invisible Man)? And if we're going to go the anime route, Gene Starwind and Nicholas D. Wolfwood.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 4:41 AM

ONEMANSHORT


I don't really know if this applies, but Dave Lister from Red Dwarf. He's slobbish, disgusting, rude, but somehow you become endeared to him. Or maybe just I do, I love his character! Ummm, I can't think of another at the moment. Maybe John Crichton from Farscape, he actually quite reminds me of Mal, but in a different setting, and with aliens He's not exactly a criminal but he's always getting into some sorta trouble.

*Edit* I see I got beaten to mentioning Crichton.


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Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM

STILLSHINY


Quote:
Originally posted by misbehaven:
Kara Thrace (A.K.A. Starbuck). Now there's a rebel.

Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.


With that in mind you gotta add the Original "Starbuck" himself. Especially with the ladies.

"We had ties that could not be broken, except by the passing of time. Like a rock. A broken time rock. And you're very special to me, my broken time rock people." - Nathan Fillion

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Friday, July 14, 2006 5:19 AM

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Que from Star Trek TNG

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Friday, July 14, 2006 7:55 PM

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Alema Rar


http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
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98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 9:46 PM

SHINYYUKARI


Faye Valentine and Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop
Jay and Silent Bob(no exactly Sci Fi but they are great examples of misbehavers)
and does Captain Jack Harkness from Doctor Who count as a misbehaver? Well...he does in my book.

Oh! And everyone's favorite robot, Bender!

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:00 AM

COSMICFUGITIVE


* Anime: Vash the Stampede, 'Trigun'.
* Alex 'Ratboy' Krycek (Nicholas Lea, The X-Files.)
* Jean-Baptiste Emannuel Zorg. (Gary Oldman, 'The Fifth Element'.)
* Mad Max.
* Jack O' Neill, 'Stargate SG1'.

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:10 PM

CYBERSNARK


I just realized, no one's mentioned Edmund Blackadder.

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:12 PM

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:17 PM

TRAEVYNN


Vicious from Cowboy Bebop
Knives from Trigun
Tsume and Darcia from Wolf's Rain
Bankotsu from Inuyasha
The Monarch from Venture Brothers

Yes, I occasionally watch a bit of anime...





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Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:18 PM

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Naraku


http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
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98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:55 AM

KIZZIECSTARS


Sawyer from lost... can't believe nobody's mentioned him... much better than prissy doc-boy jack.

Kizzie
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Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:21 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I just realized, no one's mentioned Edmund Blackadder.


OK - if we're going down that path - there's Baldric - though more of a bumbling idiot than a bad guy... I love Tony Robinson!

Also those Klingon sisters in ST:TNG - can't think of their names but they were awesome as bad girls!!



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Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:50 AM

STILLSHINY


for those who know who he is - Harrisson Davies
from Tru Calling

"We had ties that could not be broken, except by the passing of time. Like a rock. A broken time rock. And you're very special to me, my broken time rock people." - Nathan Fillion

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:46 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:
Originally posted by magdalena:
Also those Klingon sisters in ST:TNG - can't think of their names but they were awesome as bad girls!!
Lursa & B'Etor. The Duras sisters.

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:37 AM

KANEMAN


Since wolverine has been mentioned...The punisher.

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:39 AM

EST120


Quote:
Originally posted by ShinyYukari:
Oh! And everyone's favorite robot, Bender!


Bender was great. He was my favorite on Futurama.

Do not forget!

"Richard B. Riddick. Escaped convict. Murderer."

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Friday, July 28, 2006 5:24 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Quote:
Originally posted by magdalena:
Also those Klingon sisters in ST:TNG - can't think of their names but they were awesome as bad girls!!
Lursa & B'Etor. The Duras sisters.


Thank you!! I knew somebody would know without me looking at my DVD collection ... which I can't anyway coz they're all in storage...

Thank you Cybersnark!! Shinies to you!

"I love my Captain!"



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