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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I've seen nine of the films on your list, but would put at most three of them on a 'Best Of' List. I'm too tired to compile my own list right now, but I'll get back to this after thinking about it, and also checking on release dates.

What's the decade we're talking about? 2006-2015?

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Are those "best of" if you are a guy?

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I'll preface this by saying that these are films I have actually seen, either in the theater or on video. There are those that may be on your list (meaning the general your), that are recognized as the best, but that is mainly because I haven't gotten around to seeing them, that may not be on mine.

Having said that, here it goes, in no particular order:

2006

The Departed
Little Miss Sunshine
V for Vendetta
Babel


2007

Pan's Labyrinth
Bubble
Children of Men
Juno
Zodiac
No Country for Old Men

2008

The Dark Knight
The Fall
Happy-Go-Lucky
The Reader
Slumdog Millionaire
Wall-E

2009

Bad Lieutenant
Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
Precious
Up in the Air
Avatar
The Wrestler
Up

2010

The Social Network
King's Speech
Kick Ass
Winter's Bone
Inception

2011

The Tree of Life
Hugo
Drive
The Descendants
Another Earth
Marilyn

2012

Cloud Atlas
Life of Pi
End of Watch
Argo

2013

12 Years a Slave
Blue is The Warmest Color
Prisoners
Her
Gavity

2014

Lego Movie
Selma
Birdman
Grand Budapest Hotel
Under the Skin

2015

Creed
Spotlight
Ex Machina
The Revenant
Mad Max
Inside/Out
Straight Outta Compton

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Tell me something, why ask for best films (according to our own tastes) and then question our choices? (or, in this case, my choices)

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As I stated, these are movies I've actually watched over the years. I've always enjoyed watching films ever since I was a kid and I enjoy discussing them after.
I even enjoy making these lists, but I prefer discussing the films.

Tell me something, have you ever seen some of the movies I listed on any Oscar lists; such as:

Bubble - was not Oscar nominated. I made a mistake, it was made in 2005 but released in the US in 2006, not 2007.

Zodiac is another film that was never nominated for an Oscar, despite that it was, and is, one of the best films in the last 10 years.

V for Vendetta - never nominated for an Oscar.
The Fall - same as above
Bad Lieutenant - same thing, never nominated for an Oscar
Kick Ass - same as above
Drive - same as above
Another Earth - same as above
Cloud Atlas - was famously, or infamously, snubbed by the Oscars
End of Watch - no Oscar noms
Blue is The 'Warmest Color - no Oscar noms
Prisoners - No Love from Oscars
Lego Movie - same as above

Under The Skin - there is an actual article, written by Andrea Towers of Entertainment Weekly (2/4/15) who's headline read: Nominated for Nothing: Under The Skin

Speaking of which, Marilyn (listed for 2011) is not the full title; it's: My Week with Marilyn. Also it received 2 nominations; one for Best Actress and one for Best Supporting Actor. So I guess I need to remove it from my list, according to your criticism.


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Tell me something, why ask for best films (according to our own tastes) and then question our choices? (or, in this case, my choices)

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This is a fair question. Plagiarism on the internet is rampant and apparent copycat lists seems suspect. Since others might notice this, I asked the same question they might think. In this reply you have alleviated concerns that you were not fully honest. Thanks for that.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Let's see. My list includes

American Sniper(even though I'm not much on war movies)
BlackHawk Down
Avengers(all of them)
X-Men(I'd say all)
Man of Steel
RED
Expendables 1 & 2
Water Diviner( set after WWI with Russell Crowe)2014)


I've seen District 9 and it was alright. Don't think I could watch it again. My late guy loved it.

Other films I like which I think sort of fit into your catergory are MIB 1 &2 also Blade 1 & 2.

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Tell me something, why ask for best films (according to our own tastes) and then question our choices? (or, in this case, my choices)

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This is a fair question. Plagiarism on the internet is rampant and apparent copycat lists seems suspect. Since others might notice this, I asked the same question they might think. In this reply you have alleviated concerns that you were not fully honest. Thanks for that.

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As I stated, these are movies I've actually watched over the years. I've always enjoyed watching films ever since I was a kid and I enjoy discussing them after.
I even enjoy making these lists, but I prefer discussing the films.

Tell me something, have you ever seen some of the movies I listed on any Oscar lists; such as:

Bubble - was not Oscar nominated. I made a mistake, it was made in 2005 but released in the US in 2006, not 2007.

Zodiac is another film that was never nominated for an Oscar, despite that it was, and is, one of the best films in the last 10 years.

V for Vendetta - never nominated for an Oscar.
The Fall - same as above
Bad Lieutenant - same thing, never nominated for an Oscar
Kick Ass - same as above
Drive - same as above
Another Earth - same as above
Cloud Atlas - was famously, or infamously, snubbed by the Oscars
End of Watch - no Oscar noms
Blue is The 'Warmest Color - no Oscar noms
Prisoners - No Love from Oscars
Lego Movie - same as above

Under The Skin - there is an actual article, written by Andrea Towers of Entertainment Weekly (2/4/15) who's headline read: Nominated for Nothing: Under The Skin

Speaking of which, Marilyn (listed for 2011) is not the full title; it's: My Week with Marilyn. Also it received 2 nominations; one for Best Actress and one for Best Supporting Actor. So I guess I need to remove it from my list, according to your criticism.


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Bubble - didn't see. Is is like Israeli Good Old Fashioned Orgy?
Zodiac - Despite Jake and Downey, I was hoping the likes of Ruffalo, Edwards, Cox, Koteas, and Sevigny would adequately buoy it. Alas, far too much screen time was allotted the 2 twits.
V - Had to watch Portman, Weaving, but disappointed.
The Fall - you mean from 2006? Have not seen.
Bad Lieutenant II - Wasn't thrilled with the first, and 09's Port of Call was more dark than I cared for, but I had hoped Cage and Balk would elevate it.
Another Earth - didn't see.
End of Watch - despite Pena and Kendrick, I think I managed to avoid another Jake entry.
Blue is the... - I considered adding this in, but it was one of the contenders that I didn't think was BEST, but I have recommended it. I don't recall if I have seen the full trilogy, tho.
Drive - ditto.
Under the Skin - ditto. I have recommended it on this board.
Prisoners - I think I managed to avoid another Jake entry.
Cloud Atlas - Saw it. So forgettable that I started watching it a second time.
Kick-Ass - on my list.
Lego - the portrayals were too dramatic for me. I did like the part where the falling anvil smashed the coyote's head into the ground while the ACME dymamite blew out his bung.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
And I just replied with what I liked or like. I have been too busy this decade to truly pay attention to films coming out. And I DO NOT watch the Oscars or go to that website.

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I hear you Brenda. It irks me that we have to do this, it shouldn't be necessary.


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Originally posted by Brenda:
And I just replied with what I liked or like. I have been too busy this decade to truly pay attention to films coming out. And I DO NOT watch the Oscars or go to that website.

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I get it. BlackHawk Down was a film that was recommended to me by my late guy and that is why I watched it. I like Vampire movies and things which is why Blade made my list.

And as for award shows they bore me to tears. Used to watch them when I was a teenager but not any more.

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Bubble - (IMDB description) - Set against the backdrop of a decaying Midwestern town, a murder becomes the focal point of three people who work in a doll factory.

Soderbergh used unknown actors and shot this film with a small budget, a little over a million. My guess is you will not like it.

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The others you had an opinion about, so no need to comment further;

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The others you had an opinion about, so no need to comment further; except......

Plagiarism - the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. It occurs when a writer duplicates another writer's language or ideas and then calls the work his or her own. (internet dictionary meaning).

I wanted to share that with you to inform you what exactly it means to plagiarize.
To be honest, I was surprised and insulted at your accusation. Well, maybe not so surprised, but definitely insulted and a bit confused. How could one plagiarize a list of one's own favorite list of anything? Well, I could have copied someone
else's list, I guess, and palm it off as my own. But, I did not do that. You
refer to the list of Oscar-nominated films, but you did not do your homework to
check and see that many were not nominated. Actually you had not seen a handful that were on my list, which contradicts your claim. So, right there, you fucked
up!

Tell me, had you seen such a list anywhere else? I would take a wild guess and
say - No. Then why accuse someone? You really need to think before you jump
to conclusions. To anyone who writes, or aspires to the art of writing, it is a serious accusation. I'm telling you as a fellow Browncoat, do not toss that
around mindlessly.

We have a good thing here in Cinema, handle with care.


SGG

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I'm unlike JewelStaiteFan, in that I do not let my like or dislike of an actor or director, particularly their politics, determine whether or not I see a movie. I think Mel Gibson is scum, but that didn't stop me from watching The Beaver, and actually liking the film and his performance, although it is not on the following list. When JSF criticizes or questions other's taste, I have to wonder if he gets his ideas from some website all about "boycott these movies because those guys' politics suck."

I am like ShinyGoodGuy. I've been a film buff almost as long as I can remember, and that's a long time. I'm 65. In addition to watching movies from a young age, my employment for nearly 20 years was in related fields, first as a video operator for a movie channel with an independent cable outlet in the mid-70s, to over 13 years as a film projectionist. I like a wide range of films, including independent films some others might not have had a chance to see. I don't go to the theater as much these days, so I had to research for years certain films came out that I didn't see until later on disc or Netflix.

There are still quite a few recent ones I have not seen yet: The Revenant, Spotlight, The Big Short, Room, The Danish Girl, Trumbo, and Deadpool. The only film released this year that I've seen so far is Batman v Superman. It is not on the following list for sure. It took me a while to whittle the list down, it originally had many more titles. I started with 2005, for a reason I'm sure Browncoats will understand, and ended it with a few good ones from 2015. If only I could go back one more year, because I really loved The Incredibles from 2004. They are not ranked for the year, merely in alphabetical order. No one should assume a title is on my list for any other reason than that I liked it. If something is not on my list it means I didn't like it (enough) or I haven't seen it. If you don't like my list, tough shit.

2005
Batman Begins
Broken Flowers
Good Night and Good Luck
A History of Violence
Serenity
Sin City

2006
Children of Men
The Illusionist
Letters From Iwo Jima
Pan's Labyrinth
The Prestige
Volver

2007
Across the Universe
Atonement
The Darjeeling Limited
Eastern Promises
The Man From Earth
No Country For Old Men
Persepolis
Zodiac

2008
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
The Dark Knight
Doubt
Iron Man
Slumdog Millionaire
Wall-E

2009
Coraline
District 9
Moon
The Road
Up
Watchmen
Where the Wild Things Are

2010
127 Hours
Biutiful
Inception
The King's Speech
Monsters
Restrepo

2011
Another Earth
Captain America: The First Avenger
Hugo
The Tree of Life

2012
The Avengers
Cloud Atlas
Cosmopolis
Looper
Safety Not Guaranteed

2013
Before Midnight
Blue Jasmine
Dallas Buyers Club
Frances Ha
Her
Inside Llewyn Davis
Lone Survivor
Nebraska

2014
American Sniper
Birdman
Boyhood
Edge of Tomorrow
Guardians of the Galaxy
The Imitation Game
Love & Mercy
The Theory of Everything

2015
The Age of Adaline
Brooklyn
Ex Machina
The Martian
Straight Outta Compton

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't think I had heard of Frances Ha. Was that in theater?

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I'm unlike JewelStaiteFan, in that I do not let my like or dislike of an actor or director, particularly their politics, determine whether or not I see a movie. I think Mel Gibson is scum, but that didn't stop me from watching The Beaver, and actually liking the film and his performance, although it is not on the following list. When JSF criticizes or questions other's taste, I have to wonder if he gets his ideas from some website all about "boycott these movies because those guys' politics suck."

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The others you had an opinion about, so no need to comment further; except......

Plagiarism - the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. It occurs when a writer duplicates another writer's language or ideas and then calls the work his or her own. (internet dictionary meaning).

I wanted to share that with you to inform you what exactly it means to plagiarize.
To be honest, I was surprised and insulted at your accusation. Well, maybe not so surprised, but definitely insulted and a bit confused. How could one plagiarize a list of one's own favorite list of anything? Well, I could have copied someone
else's list, I guess, and palm it off as my own. But, I did not do that. You
refer to the list of Oscar-nominated films, but you did not do your homework to
check and see that many were not nominated. Actually you had not seen a handful that were on my list, which contradicts your claim. So, right there, you fucked
up!

Tell me, had you seen such a list anywhere else? I would take a wild guess and
say - No. Then why accuse someone? You really need to think before you jump
to conclusions. To anyone who writes, or aspires to the art of writing, it is a serious accusation. I'm telling you as a fellow Browncoat, do not toss that
around mindlessly.

We have a good thing here in Cinema, handle with care.


SGG

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You have brought this up again. Previously, I had thought it best to leave it rest.
I understand the meaning of the word, and have for a very long time.
I will take this opportunity to apologize for offending you so, and making you think I was insulting you.
I had not intended it as an actual insult, more of a confirmation. Based upon your response, I may have used too strong of a word for your liking.
As I already stated, your initial response asserted adequately that you did not merely use the Oscar list as your template. Additionally, anybody else reading your list and wondering the same thing should also be satisfied.
I knew which of your list were Oscar winners, nominatees, and not just in actor/director categories, because some wonderful films in the past 10 years have won for technical or lesser categories than what most people focus on. I also was aware of which films were not.

Yes, I have previously seen people take a list of Award winners and add to it a bit, and submit it as their own.
In the film industry itself, there are many "critics" or "reviewers" who submit reviews of films they have not seen or watched. One of the worst was Leonard Maltin. The slang is they "mailed it in" and also refers to performances.


I hope that you will let this rest now. I do appreciate your input, both your list and your discussion.
I had also considered placing a link on some of the titles to threads here which discussed those films. Many of those listed in this thread have had discussions on FFF.net and some multiple threads.

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Tell me, had you seen such a list anywhere else? I would take a wild guess and
say - No. Then why accuse someone? You really need to think before you jump
to conclusions. To anyone who writes, or aspires to the art of writing, it is a serious accusation. I'm telling you as a fellow Browncoat, do not toss that
around mindlessly.

We have a good thing here in Cinema, handle with care.


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Yes, I have previously seen people take a list of Award winners and add to it a bit, and submit it as their own.
In the film industry itself, there are many "critics" or "reviewers" who submit reviews of films they have not seen or watched. One of the worst was Leonard Maltin. The slang is they "mailed it in" and also refers to performances.

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I am somewhat surprised about Leonard Maltin, but be that as it may, I'm sure
there are those that "cheat" and take shortcuts in the industry.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Include also

The Last Samurai(2004) (One of the few Tom Cruise movies I can stand)
Gladiator (2008)
Rocky Balboa (2006)

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Which actors or directors are you talking about here, ones who believe in a Flat Earth? Or is that just some metaphor you use to describe someone who holds a view different from yours?

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For those reading along, recall that this is CINEMA forum.

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Which actors or directors are you talking about here, ones who believe in a Flat Earth? Or is that just some metaphor you use to describe someone who holds a view different from yours?

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I am trying to recall which film you are referring to. Where facts and truths are considered "viewpoints" and lies and fabrications are the acknowledged and agreed-upon standard.

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Just because a director or actor knows for an absolute fact that the Earth is flat and the Sun revolves around it once per day, does not mean that I disagree with their politics.

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Which actors or directors are you talking about here, ones who believe in a Flat Earth? Or is that just some metaphor you use to describe someone who holds a view different from yours?

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The Last Samurai(2004) (One of the few Tom Cruise movies I can stand)
Gladiator (2000)
Rocky Balboa (2006)

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I could not find a Gladiator from 2008, or 2007, 2009. Was that the complete name, or did you mean the 2000 film with Russell Crowe, after Mel Gibson turned it down?

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Thanks for the correction JFS. I meant the one with Russell Crowe. I couldn't read the year on the DVD. So I do apologize for that. I will edit it now.

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Which actors or directors are you talking about here, ones who believe in a Flat Earth? Or is that just some metaphor you use to describe someone who holds a view different from yours?

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Less a metaphor than an example or anecdote.
Less clear cut examples would confuse people.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
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The Last Samurai(2004) (One of the few Tom Cruise movies I can stand)
Gladiator (2000)
Rocky Balboa (2006)

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Less a metaphor than an example or anecdote.
Less clear cut examples would confuse people.

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Since we have a thread about films from the 20s-50s, and one from the 60s-90s, why not edit the title of this one and adjust the criteria to 2000-present instead of just last 10 years?

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Since we have a thread about films from the 20s-50s, and one from the 60s-90s, why not edit the title of this one and adjust the criteria to 2000-present instead of just last 10 years?

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The Last Samurai(2004) (One of the few Tom Cruise movies I can stand)
Gladiator (2000)
Rocky Balboa (2006)

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Always been a big Rocky fan. Also love Russell Crowe.

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Gladiator (2000)
Rocky Balboa (2006)

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Always been a big Rocky fan. Also love Russell Crowe.

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Were you a fan of L.A. Confidential? The Quick and the Dead?

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I've seen it and it was good. Also loved a "Beautiful Mind" .

Also "American Gangster" from 2007 which included Russell Crowe and Denzel Washington.

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I've seen it and it was good. Also loved a "Beautiful Mind" .

Also "American Gangster" from 2007 which included Russell Crowe and Denzel Washington.

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Big fan of LA Confidential.......I also liked Master & Commander, an underrated film.


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Very good film "Quick and the Dead". I couldn't get into "Master and Commander". Didn't care for the writing.

Also good was "3:10 from Yuma" which was done in 2007. Starring Russell Crowe, Christian Bale and Alan Tudyk was in it.

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I'd like to compile a list, both for reference regarding what Browncoats like and recommend, and for a list of films to look for, considering the dwindling outlook for films this year.

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I have loved movies/films as long as I can remember - even went to school in Cali (briefly) to be in the film business. BUT... after looking at your list it occurred to me that recently I am more impressed by long story form TV shows. Breaking Bad, The Wire, Game of Thrones, etc... about as powerful as the medium can make.

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Even if something leaves you anxious to find out what happens next, it doesn't mean you're emotionally prepared to take it in large doses. "The Wire" was that way for me. Love it, but wouldn't think of bingeing it.

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No one can confirm or recommend to someone else that a show is "binge-worthy" or not, since we all approach shows from different perspectives. Even if something leaves you anxious to find out what happens next, it doesn't mean you're emotionally prepared to take it in large doses. "The Wire" was that way for me. Love it, but wouldn't think of bingeing it.

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No one can confirm or recommend to someone else that a show is "binge-worthy" or not, since we all approach shows from different perspectives. Even if something leaves you anxious to find out what happens next, it doesn't mean you're emotionally prepared to take it in large doses. "The Wire" was that way for me. Love it, but wouldn't think of bingeing it.

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I had hoped Firely would be a long story form show.
Do you consider all of this type to be binge-worthy, or do you prefer bite sized segments, for separate sittings?

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Those shows are definitely binge-worthy. I think it depends on the viewer and the show though as to how much you can watch in a sitting. House of Cards is rather depressing imho, so I don't usually watch more than an ep at a time, but it's mostly (except for the occasional GIANT shark jumping) a really strong tv show.

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Having just seen "Creed" in the last couple of months. I would definitely agree that it is a top film of this decade.

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A good film and solid performance by Sly. I thought for sure he would get an Oscar, but that's me.

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A good film and solid performance by Sly. I thought for sure he would get an Oscar, but that's me.

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What did you think about Copland?
I think I forgot to include that in the best films of that period.


And now I remember:
In Bruges (2008) IIRC my gut hurt a lot from the humor. And maybe I choked on or spit out my soda a few times.
The Debt (2010) Perhaps my favorite Jessica Chastain performance to date. It seemed to me a similar feel as Munich (2005) did.

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A good film and solid performance by Sly. I thought for sure he would get an Oscar, but that's me.

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What did you think about Copland?
I think I forgot to include that in the best films of that period.


And now I remember:
In Bruges (2008) IIRC my gut hurt a lot from the humor. And maybe I choked on or spit out my soda a few times.
The Debt (2010) Perhaps my favorite Jessica Chastain performance to date. It seemed to me a similar feel as Munich (2005) did.

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Hey JSF,

I liked Copland, but it's been a while since I last saw it, so I really don't remember much of it.

I haven't seen The Debt, but I love In Bruges - hilarious!!

Quiet as it's kept, Sly is a good actor and in the right hands a great actor.
He should have won an Oscar for Creed.

SGG

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