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2025 Wide Release Prediction Game Thread

POSTED BY: 6IXSTRINGJACK
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 29, 2025 13:51
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Friday, June 13, 2025 6:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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I've only seen Flint Dicker in 3 second bits in other youtuber videos before now. I didn't
know this was a thing and that it was from a channel with over 7.4 Million
followers!!!???? What????

This is something I'm going to have to devote some time to, and it's far better than it
probably has any right to be.




Brilliant setup with the Choose-Your-Own-Adventure story. They must have made a killing on the ad revenue here. Twist that algorithm up in a pretzel with all these unlisted(hidden) videos.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2025 4:27 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


December 2025

Cineverse Sets U.S. Release Dates For Horror Reboots ‘Silent Night, Deadly Night’
https://deadline.com/2025/06/silent-night-deadly-night-return-silent-h
ill-release-dates-1236436030
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Thursday, June 19, 2025 9:26 AM

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Lots of Flops but none as bad as Joker 2 Ass-Rape and what budget lesson did they learn after Folie à Deux’ cost so much to make?

Thunderbolts struggled


Horror is doing ok and Sinners was praised

Sinners (2025) vs. The Matrix (1999) vs. Deadpool & Wolverine (2024)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Sinners
-(2025)/Matrix-The/Deadpool-and-Wolverine-(2024)#tab=day_by_day_comparison



Thunderbolts* (2025) vs. Joker: Folie à Deux (2024) vs. A Minecraft Movie (2025)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Thunder
bolts-(2025)/Joker-Folie-a-Deux-(2024)/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


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Thursday, June 19, 2025 2:31 PM

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It appears that nobody learned any lessons on budgets so far.

I'm not going to do any graphs or math on the thing, but look at these insane budgets across the board from blockbusters to kids movies to even the horror genre.

My guess is that budgets overall have increased 30 to 40% from 2023 to 2025 across the board.


The only "lesson" that I believe they have learned isn't really a lesson, but just the reality of things. The venture capital has dried up, which means they can't just keep getting a bunch of near interest-free loans to keep funding these woke dumpster fires.

So in lieu of dropping any budgets as they should be doing, the amount of new content (ie: Crap) from streaming to theatrical releases has dropped significantly in that same time frame.



Disney is getting hit particularly hard this year, but I don't really think that's because of any recent Production decisions they've made. My belief is that it is by design the way they re-situated their movie releases and streaming content crap over the last two years.


Think about it for a moment...

How many movies did Disney release last year compared to this year? How many of them were successful last year and how many bombed compared to this year?

Though I'm not going to take the time to go through old posts and/or research these numbers, we already know that Disney made bank in 2024 off of only a few movies (Deadpool & Wolverine, Inside Out 2, Moana 2, Mufasa: The Lion King).


But they decided to release a bunch of movies they knew were going to bomb in 2025. Most of them were movies that were easily ready to go out at nearly any point in time in 2024. (Snow White, Thunderbolts*, Blacktain Anti-America, the upcoming Fantastic 4... as well as finally putting out the soon to be ridiculed Ironheart garbage streaming show)


The end of the Fiscal year for Disney is right around the end of September every year.

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Disney's fiscal year ends on the Saturday closest to September 30. This means that for most years, the fiscal year ends on September 30th, but occasionally it will end on a different date to ensure it aligns with this Saturday. For example, in fiscal year 2024, Disney's fiscal year ended on September 28, 2024, according to the SEC.


What day is Avatar 3 scheduled to be released?

December 19th... With a re-release of Avatar 2 scheduled when???

October 3rd.





I expect a banner year for Disney next year after dumping all of their woke trash into the dumpster fire this year, with Lilo and Stitch making up for a good amount of their current 2025 losses, with tax write-offs for all the bombs bringing them close to parity until their fiscal year 2026 begins in October.

My prediction for Disney is that they will do at least as well in 2026 as they did in 2024.

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Friday, June 20, 2025 10:24 AM

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Hollywood somewhat struggling, some other studios outside the Big Two really struggle and suffer money loss

World wide Cinema makes money


Disney Leads U.S. Box Office With $1.1B Year To Date, But Warner Bros Is Billion-Bound Too
https://deadline.com/2025/06/box-office-2025-disney-warner-bros-123643
8104
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2026 Could Be One Of The Biggest Years Ever At The Box Office
https://www.slashfilm.com/1889952/why-2026-box-office-biggest-years-ev
er
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Friday, June 20, 2025 4:08 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Disney Leads U.S. Box Office With $1.1B Year To Date, But Warner Bros Is Billion-Bound Too
https://deadline.com/2025/06/box-office-2025-disney-warner-bros-123643
8104
/



Extremely misleading title from deadline here. As I've written about and debunked here not too long ago, Disney has spent 3 to 4 times as much on budgets to get that $1.1B and even with the Lilo and Stitch movie doing as well as it did they are deep in the red for the year. The incoming flop of Elio as well as the very likely Fantastic 4 flop will just make the year even worse for them.

Meanwhile, WB's 2nd place worldwide gross is finding them very, very comfortably in the Black for 2025 so far.


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2026 Could Be One Of The Biggest Years Ever At The Box Office
https://www.slashfilm.com/1889952/why-2026-box-office-biggest-years-ev
er
/



I have predicted right above you that 2026 is going to be a banner year for Disney (assuming they did dump the rest of their woke shit by September 30th of this year, and they've learned any lessons at all about budgeting and making movies that people actually want to see instead of far-left ideology that nobody is willing to pay for anymore).

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Sunday, June 22, 2025 11:31 AM

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Warner Bros. Pictures Unveils Release Date For Chinese Co-Production ‘Tom And Jerry: Forbidden Compass’

https://deadline.com/2025/06/warner-bros-pictures-china-tom-and-jerry-
forbidden-compass-release-date-1236439076
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Monday, June 23, 2025 6:41 AM

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Oscars?

History of Sound
https://deadline.com/2025/06/mubis-the-history-of-sound-release-date-1
236435753
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Oliver Hermanus, won the Queer Palm Award at the 2011 Cannes Film Festival. He's a White South African parents were ANC activists, he moved overseas to London? California? German director Emmerich helped Hermanus make his first feature film, "Shirley Adams"? he made 'Living' about 1950s London, a humorless bureaucrat decides to take time off work, also Moffie in 1981 South Africa must complete his brutal and racist two years of compulsory military service while hiding he's a homosexual, as a director he might tick the correct boxes for Hollywood critics




3 different directors...too many cooks?


ELIO "Giant Alien Battle Scene" Trailer



Budget $150 million, Current Box office $35 million

Disney / Pixar Animation Studios

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Monday, June 23, 2025 10:15 AM

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Not sure if you were following my Elio thread or not, but Bruce predicted $35 Million for the weekend in the US alone.

I said if it did that and the International number came in higher (as it typically does), at say... $55 Million for a nice round $90 Million internationally, then it would still end up being a MAJOR flop.

Well... We just got a $35 Million WORLDWIDE open on this one.

That's 11.6% of the production budget made back on Weekend 1.

Honestly, I think I'd be hard pressed to find another movie I've EVER seen do that bad before. Maybe the bottom few in the 2024 graph that I made? Maybe. But they would have all been low-to-mid budget movies that most people already forgot about. I've never seen a Blockbuster movie do THIS bad before.

I wonder if anybody is going to report this Truth, or if they're all going to try to gaslight you into believing that it's doing well like Bruce did when he said that $3 Million on Preview Thursday was a "strong" number for Elio.

This could be the last movie that Pixar ever makes.

Thanks Bob Iger. Thanks DEI.

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Monday, June 23, 2025 10:21 AM

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Here's what Google AI said when I asked if it was the biggest failure of all time:

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Yes, Elio, the latest animated film from Pixar, is experiencing a significant box office failure, marking the worst opening weekend in the studio's history. The film grossed only $21 million domestically and $14 million internationally, totaling $35 million globally, according to That Park Place, The Daily Beast, and Variety. This performance falls short of even Pixar's previous lowest debut, Elemental, which earned $30 million domestically and $44.5 million worldwide. Despite mostly positive reviews and high audience scores, the film failed to attract significant ticket sales.




Not much gaslighting going on that I can tell. At least from the headlines. They all pretty much read like this one from Forbes:


‘Elio’ Flops With Worst Opening Weekend Ever For A Pixar Movie

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timlammers/2025/06/22/elio-has-worst-open
ing-weekend-ever-for-a-disney-pixar-movie
/


I think the gaslighting here is that they're not telling you that it IS or is very close to being the biggest blockbuster failure of all time.

Can't wait to see the drop next weekend.

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Monday, June 23, 2025 11:49 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


its bad as an opening and not sure on staying power but I believe there was much worse

Joker-2 AssRaped Joker Folie à Deux (2024) vs. Elio (2025) vs. Strange World (2022)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Joker-F
olie-a-Deux-(2024)/Elio-(2025)/Strange-World-(2022)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


Elio (2025) vs. A Minecraft Movie (2025) vs. Barbie (2023)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Elio-(2
025)/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)/Barbie-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison



Pixar's sci-fi misfire, ELIO, failed to launch internationally too, grossing just $14M.
TOP MARKETS:
1. KOREA ($1.8M)
2. MEXICO ($1.4M)
3. FRANCE ($1.3M)
3. UK ($1.2M)
China opens next week. Japan, August 1st.
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32972-elio/






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Wednesday, June 25, 2025 8:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ballerina is a major flop for Lionsgate...

$90 Million Production Budget. $225 Million breakeven point.

Worldwide Gross after Weekend 3: $105,798,256

Lost just about as much as they spent on this one.

Could have sent that money to those imaginary 300,000 kids that are starving in the Congo instead of lighting it on fire like that.

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Thursday, June 26, 2025 5:21 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Brad Pitt’s ‘F1’ to Top the Box Office but Projections for Apple’s Big-Budget Racing Drama Are All Over the Place

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/f1-movie-megan-sequel-box-off
ice-opening-weekend-projections-1236439291
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Thursday, June 26, 2025 5:53 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


My old man made Megan 2 sound like it was going to be Terminator 2.

I haven't watched a trailer, but I love the concept. Enjoyed the 1st movie well enough.

Maybe they'll have the budget to buy the rights to use Toy Soldier in this one. From the sounds of it, the song might be a better fit to the sequel.


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Thursday, June 26, 2025 5:10 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Thunderbolts made $59,328 Wednesday, 188 + M overseas, 371 + M worldwide



remakes of revamp or reimagined of remakes of remake coming

Lilo and Stitch 2 is announced
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/lilo-and-stitch-2-disney-1236441738/


Sinners $275.5 + M / $85 +M / $361 + M.


A24 used to big a big picture stuido, hype for Everything Everywhere All At Once, Civil War but now struggles

The Phoenician Scheme 32 Million

Materialists 30 Million



who will stay in the top 10, it seems that Sinners gets knocked out of the Top10 this week

Balerina JW, John Wick Ballerina is in trouble

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Saturday, June 28, 2025 4:46 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Horror - Final Destination Bloodlines WB $145.3M intl cume/$280.1M global.

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Monday, June 30, 2025 8:19 AM

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Monday, June 30, 2025 9:13 AM

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Planes vs Boats vs Cars vs Karate Kungfu Sportsball?


F1: The Movie (2025) vs. Top Gun: Maverick (2022) vs. Speed 2: Cruise Control (1997)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/F1-The-
Movie-(2025)/Top-Gun-Maverick-(2022)/Speed-2-Cruise-Control#tab=day_by_day_comparison


F1: The Movie (2025) vs. Fast X (2023) vs. The Karate Kid (2010)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/F1-The-
Movie-(2025)/Fast-X-(2023)/Karate-Kid-The-(2010)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

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Tuesday, July 1, 2025 12:26 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Estimated debuts this weekend for F1 The Movie by international market include:
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1939351736021598314
U.K. - $9.2M
China - $9.0M
Mexico - $6.7M
France - $5.4M
Australia - $5.0M
S. Korea - $3.7M
Germany - $3.4M
India - $2.8M
Japan - $2.8M
U.A.E. - $2.7M
Italy - $2.4M
Spain - $2.3M

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Wednesday, July 2, 2025 9:24 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


AMC works really hard to make going to the movies terrible

By Colette Bennett | July 1, 2025

https://www.thestreet.com/entertainment/amc-works-really-hard-to-make-
going-to-the-movies-terrible


As streaming media has exploded in popularity over the past few decades, fewer and fewer people have seen the point of getting into the car and going to the movie theater.

Despite being a beloved activity that people have adored for well over a hundred years, going to the movies really isn't what it used to be.

Add up the price of a ticket or two, overpriced concessions, the cost of driving to and from the theater — not to mention the high possibility of loud groups of kids who don't mind talking over the entire movie — and it's just not appealing.

The pandemic hit movie theaters hard, and although America has recovered, the movie theater industry hasn't.

Typically it made between 10 and 11 billion a year before 2020, but since then, it hasn't exceeded more than 8 billion, per data from Box Office Mojo.

One way theaters coped with getting people back in theater seats was to entice them with limited-edition merchandise like themed popcorn buckets, which actually did wonders for their bottom line. AMC alone raked in $65 million from sales of this merchandise.

Now AMC has a new idea to change the theater experience. But unlike its innovative collectible popcorn buckets, this will actually add yet another reason to justify staying home on the couch with Netflix.

Your movie date just got longer

We all go to the movies expecting to see trailers before the show starts, and some people even like it that way, knowing if they're running a bit late, they won't miss the main event.

AMC has decided this is a good thing, and as of July 1, will now show more pre-movie ads than ever, including "as much as" a whopping five minutes of commercials, as well as a new ad called a "Platinum Spot" that will play before the last few movie trailers you see.

Trailers and other promotions can mean the movie doesn't start for 25-30 minutes, according to the AMC website.

The advertising decision comes as the result of an agreement AMC made with the National CineMedia ad network, which is the largest of its kind in the U.S.

Back in 2019, AMC declined using these ads, despite the fact other chains such as Regal adopted them, saying it believed that moviegoers would react "quite negatively" to them.

But it has since pivoted, saying in a June Bloomberg interview, “While AMC was initially reluctant to bring this to our theaters, our competitors have fully participated for more than five years without any direct impact to their attendance."

Why AMC is making this move

AMC has had its share of struggles over the past few years. While it's been slowly recovering since the pandemic, 2024 didn't pan out so well, with AMC reporting a decline in revenue in 2024's Q3 and an attendance decline.

AMC also announced on July 1 that it had entered into a new agreement with its creditors, which will provide $223 million of new money financing that will be used to refinance its debt.

The agreement will also allow AMC to equitize at least $143 million of its current debt, and has the potential to allow the company to equitize as much at $337 million.

Commenters on social media did not take well to the news of the new ads.

"I would like to warn AMC to expect 25-30 years of me never coming back to their theaters," said X user TexasPharmD.

"Just another reason to avoid the movies," X user Laz252 said.

"Stop. I like how they want more people to watch movies, but they're also still making the experience worse," X user 360 No One said.

By Colette Bennett

Colette Bennett is a multi-faceted writer that covers retail, tech, entertainment, and more. Before joining TheStreet, Colette was a Senior Producer for Yahoo! Finance, and prior to that, a reporter for CNN. Also a novelist, her debut "Enter the Meta" is now available via Simon & Schuster.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, July 2, 2025 4:12 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Lionsgate's Ballerina grossed $392K on Tuesday (from 1,796 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $56.23M.

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1940494187151196584

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Wednesday, July 2, 2025 4:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
AMC works really hard to make going to the movies terrible

By Colette Bennett | July 1, 2025

https://www.thestreet.com/entertainment/amc-works-really-hard-to-make-
going-to-the-movies-terrible


As streaming media has exploded in popularity over the past few decades, fewer and fewer people have seen the point of getting into the car and going to the movie theater.

Despite being a beloved activity that people have adored for well over a hundred years, going to the movies really isn't what it used to be.

Add up the price of a ticket or two, overpriced concessions, the cost of driving to and from the theater — not to mention the high possibility of loud groups of kids who don't mind talking over the entire movie — and it's just not appealing.

The pandemic hit movie theaters hard, and although America has recovered, the movie theater industry hasn't.

Typically it made between 10 and 11 billion a year before 2020, but since then, it hasn't exceeded more than 8 billion, per data from Box Office Mojo.

One way theaters coped with getting people back in theater seats was to entice them with limited-edition merchandise like themed popcorn buckets, which actually did wonders for their bottom line. AMC alone raked in $65 million from sales of this merchandise.

Now AMC has a new idea to change the theater experience. But unlike its innovative collectible popcorn buckets, this will actually add yet another reason to justify staying home on the couch with Netflix.

Your movie date just got longer

We all go to the movies expecting to see trailers before the show starts, and some people even like it that way, knowing if they're running a bit late, they won't miss the main event.

AMC has decided this is a good thing, and as of July 1, will now show more pre-movie ads than ever, including "as much as" a whopping five minutes of commercials, as well as a new ad called a "Platinum Spot" that will play before the last few movie trailers you see.

Trailers and other promotions can mean the movie doesn't start for 25-30 minutes, according to the AMC website.

The advertising decision comes as the result of an agreement AMC made with the National CineMedia ad network, which is the largest of its kind in the U.S.

Back in 2019, AMC declined using these ads, despite the fact other chains such as Regal adopted them, saying it believed that moviegoers would react "quite negatively" to them.

But it has since pivoted, saying in a June Bloomberg interview, “While AMC was initially reluctant to bring this to our theaters, our competitors have fully participated for more than five years without any direct impact to their attendance."

Why AMC is making this move

AMC has had its share of struggles over the past few years. While it's been slowly recovering since the pandemic, 2024 didn't pan out so well, with AMC reporting a decline in revenue in 2024's Q3 and an attendance decline.

AMC also announced on July 1 that it had entered into a new agreement with its creditors, which will provide $223 million of new money financing that will be used to refinance its debt.

The agreement will also allow AMC to equitize at least $143 million of its current debt, and has the potential to allow the company to equitize as much at $337 million.

Commenters on social media did not take well to the news of the new ads.

"I would like to warn AMC to expect 25-30 years of me never coming back to their theaters," said X user TexasPharmD.

"Just another reason to avoid the movies," X user Laz252 said.

"Stop. I like how they want more people to watch movies, but they're also still making the experience worse," X user 360 No One said.

By Colette Bennett

Colette Bennett is a multi-faceted writer that covers retail, tech, entertainment, and more. Before joining TheStreet, Colette was a Senior Producer for Yahoo! Finance, and prior to that, a reporter for CNN. Also a novelist, her debut "Enter the Meta" is now available via Simon & Schuster.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




My old man actually mentioned this. He usually goes to the small family-owned dual screen when visiting my brother, but they haven't been showing any of the movies he's wanted to see all year whenever he goes down there.

So he's taken my brother and gone "into town" where they have a 16 screen AMC, about 20 minutes away. Last time they decided to watch 28 Years Later instead of the last Mission Impossible movie, and with the differences in run-times between the movies he's glad they did because he said there was 30 minutes of previews before the movie.

I asked him if there were any advertisements in there, and he did say there weren't this time and they were all movie previews. I highly doubt that there weren't any ads though. I stopped going to the movies completely by the late 2000's and they were already putting Coca-Cola ads in between previews over 15 years ago.


I guess it's not a big deal if they're not selling out the venue and you can just show up to movies late knowing they're going to do this. They've got a trapped audience for those 1st weekend showings though. I mean, you can still show up late, but good luck finding seating for yourself and whoever you came with.

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Friday, July 4, 2025 12:39 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


A 100% Tariff on Foreign-Made Movies: What Does It Mean?


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Saturday, July 5, 2025 5:40 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Will James Gunn's Superman Make More Than Man Of Steel In Its Box Office Debut?

https://www.slashfilm.com/1902929/james-gunn-superman-man-of-steel-box
-office-opening-preview
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Saturday, July 5, 2025 6:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I can't imagine that anybody is excited over this or Fantastic 4. How many times have we rebooted these things now and never gotten anywhere with them?

Superman had a few movies that went down as classics, really just because of good timing. You'd be hard pressed to find a character in literature that is more difficult to make interesting than Superman. And they already nailed it the first time so why do they keep trying to do it over again?

I guess that gives an argument at least to trying Fantastic 4 again since they've never made a good one, or one that anybody is ever going to care about.


Do you think it's possible that Fantastic 4 just isn't ever going to be popular with the mainstream?

I dunno. I was into comics when I was a kid and I never cared about F4. I already thought they were dated and kind of dumb in the mid-80s.

To me, the only thing that ever happened that was interesting with Fantastic Four in my entire lifetime was somebody getting Jessica Alba to wear that outfit.



Still wasn't enough to get me to watch the first movie from start to finish or even watch a minute of the 2nd flick.

Now we're just going to girl-boss our way with past-their-prime upper-mids with casting almost as bad as Borderlands, all while you know there's going to be at least a little bit of scolding left in there no matter how much Disney tried to tone it down in reshoots?

I hope you at least didn't ask Neil Druckman for advice on what you do with Pedro Pascal and Reed is still alive at the end of it.

Good luck!

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Sunday, July 6, 2025 4:47 AM

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the world is watching less superheros but they still watch 'Dinosaurs'

‘Jurassic World Rebirth’ expecting big World Wide International money a post-Covid Record?

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Do you think it's possible that Fantastic 4 just isn't ever going to be popular with the mainstream?



the trailer looks good but this franchise has always struggled, it was popular long ago, they had a Hanna-Barbera toon way back in the late 1960s

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Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
the world is watching less superheros but they still watch 'Dinosaurs'

‘Jurassic World Rebirth’ expecting big World Wide International money a post-Covid Record?



I'm hearing the exact opposite, but we'll see on that one...

Quote:

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Do you think it's possible that Fantastic 4 just isn't ever going to be popular with the mainstream?



the trailer looks good but this franchise has always struggled, it was popular long ago, they had a Hanna-Barbera toon way back in the late 1960s



That makes sense. At one time, during the 60's, Fantastic Four was Marvel's most popular property.

But it's a relic. For whatever reason it didn't age well. My friends NEVER talked once about Fantastic Four during the 80's or 90's. They didn't bother having any cartoons for them, and when they did finally make a movie we didn't even know about it because it was made never to be shown to the public just to maintain the rights.

They've tried putting the on the big screen like 3 times now and nobody cares.

I think they probably nailed the asthetic for this new version, and I think had they not had a bunch of DEI writers and bullshit from the last 5 years involved, just because of the look of this thing I think it would have done well.

But it's a girlboss POS with nobody's favorite Pedro Pascal as the lead punching bag.



Seriously...

The dude is in everything, but almost everything he's ever been in has been a flop...

https://www.the-numbers.com/person/218750401-Pedro-Pascal#tab=acting

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Sunday, July 6, 2025 8:42 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


I was intrigued by the following review. Could it really be that bad, while looking so good?

You know what needs to go extinct? The 'Jurassic World' franchise

While the previous ‘Jurassic World’ films were disposable but were rescued by some cool chase scenes and effects, the latest lumbers and sinks like a dinosaur in a tar pit

By Cary Darling | July 1, 2025

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/entertainment/movies_tv/article/juras
sic-world-rebirth-review-20402484.php


"Jurassic World Rebirth," the third in the splinter "Jurassic World" franchise and the seventh film set in the "Jurassic Park" universe overall, is like a copy of a copy of a copy. Even at its best moments, "Jurassic World Rebirth," opening Wednesday throughout Houston, just serves to remind viewers of what they liked about the previous films.

That's a bit of a surprise since this installment marks the return of screenwriter David Koepp who co-wrote the original "Jurassic Park" and the follow-up, "The Lost World: Jurassic Park," with Michael Crichton, on whose novel the concept was based. Director Gareth Edwards knows his way around a giant monster movie, having directed the 2014 "Godzilla." But the result here, despite some effective touches and cool dinosaur moments, feels rote. It's a by-the-numbers summer blockbuster that seems longer than it is and is the weakest in the "Jurassic" franchise.

The movie is set five years after the events of the last film, "Jurassic World: Dominion," in which the public has grown weary of dinosaurs. The amusement park that once featured them has long been shut down and the remaining creatures live wild across various equatorial islands that are now off-limits to humans. But the fascination with them has long been extinguished, except among bookish scientists like Henry Loomis (Jonathan Bailey, "Wicked," "Bridgerton) who works at a museum that few visit.

But he gets his chance for relevance when he's recruited by a drug company represented by the slick Martin Krebs (Rupert Friend) to be part of a team assigned to extract blood from the three biggest air, land and sea dinosaurs in order to make a drug that will combat coronary disease. (It's never explained why the company needs blood from three separate creatures instead of synthesizing what they need from one. The only real reason seems to be so that we get to see our heroes fight off death in three different environments.)

Also part of the team is Zora Bennett (Scarlett Johansson), an expert at extracting things in dangerous situations, who hires her boat captain friend, Duncan Kincaid (Mahershala Ali) and his crew to get them to the island. Simultaneously, a family of four — dad Reuben (Manuel Garcia-Rulfo), daughters Luna (Teresa Delgado) and very young Isabella (Audrina Miranda), and Luna's slacker boyfriend Xavier (a very funny David Iacono) — is hoping for some bonding time with a trip on their sailboat, La Mariposa, to Cape Town.

Of course, the paths of the family, the team and lots of hungry, angry dinosaurs cross. When the dinosaurs, many of which are mutant breeds designed by Jurassic scientists back in the day before everything shut down, are on screen, "Jurassic World Rebirth" recalls the best moments of the previous movies. The fact that the biggest dino has a face that looks more like the creature in "Alien" is all kinds of disturbing. As is always the case with these movies, the technology and technicians that allow this world to be portrayed so vividly is always impressive.

But the human stories aren't particularly compelling, despite some good performances. If there's supposed to be a spark between Johansson and Bailey, it never really ignites. And there's even the introduction of a cute CGI baby dinosaur that Isabella forges a bond with that is an obvious attempt to appeal to the youngest of moviegoers. But it just comes across as contrived and manipulative. Killer movie dinosaurs, even baby ones, should not be cuddly.

If all you want from a movie is large reptiles hunting humans, then "Jurassic World Rebirth" fills the bill and is a good a way as any to pass two hours on a hot summer afternoon. But you might be better off staying home to watch Steven Spielberg's original "Jurassic Park" to see it done right.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, July 6, 2025 8:45 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Another bad review. I have to download it to see if it stinks as bad as described:

'Jurassic World Rebirth' Shows Why Hollywood Fails to Make Great Dinosaur Movies

By Rita Dorsch | July 5, 2025

https://movieweb.com/jurassic-world-rebirth-why-hollywood-cant-make-gr
eat-dinosaur-movies
/

We’d all be petrified if we encountered an Allosaurus in the wild, but people — and kids especially — aren’t afraid of dinosaurs. They’re fascinated by and love them.

Jurassic Park loved dinosaurs, too. It brought them back to life and perfectly captured the terror and wonder they inspire. Plus, it had the luxury of doing it first and the combined talent to do it best. In the years since, Hollywood has failed to adapt. Banking on that bigger is better (and the wild in-world notion that regular dinosaurs are boring), the Jurassic World movies have rehashed the same basic story but with increasingly ridiculous genetically modified (and digitally-rendered) big bads — Indominus rex, Indoraptor, and now Mutadon and Distortus rex — that never existed. We don't need old stories with fake dinosaurs. We need new stories with real dinosaurs.

I thrilled at watching Spinosaurus sails cut through the water because I love Spinosaurus, even if I know Spiny's main function will be to kill off tertiary crew members in the first act. Nobody loves or cares about the silly, made-up D. rex. The climax of Jurassic World Rebirth represents either the franchise's worst impulses, or, if we're being generous, meta commentary. The film comes down hard on the side that InGen shouldn't have played Frankenstein with these animals, and neither should've filmmakers. Until someone can figure out how to use these terrible, wonderful lizards to entertain and enlighten us again, there won't be another dinosaur movie that leaves a footprint.

Bittorrent Link: F7267E9F76F84C23C704FEA973319B6EB6BA8FB1
https://uindex.org/details.php?id=10453030

My review: If you are into monster movies, this is for you, but not for me.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, July 7, 2025 10:34 AM

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Scarlett Johansson has officially become the highest grossing actor of all time. $14.615B in worldwide box office gross from leading roles.
https://awardsradar.com/2025/07/06/box-office-report-july-6/

DC WB Superman’s budget aprox $200M
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-gunn-superman-wont-flop-700-m
illion-1236448433
/


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
the trailer looks good but this franchise has always struggled, it was popular long ago, they had a Hanna-Barbera toon way back in the late 1960s



That makes sense. At one time, during the 60's, Fantastic Four was Marvel's most popular property.

But it's a relic. For whatever reason it didn't age well. My friends NEVER talked once about Fantastic Four during the 80's or 90's. They didn't bother having any cartoons for them, and when they did finally make a movie we didn't even know about it because it was made never to be shown to the public just to maintain the rights.

They've tried putting the on the big screen like 3 times now and nobody cares.

I think they probably nailed the asthetic for this new version, and I think had they not had a bunch of DEI writers and bullshit from the last 5 years involved, just because of the look of this thing I think it would have done well.

But it's a girlboss POS with nobody's favorite Pedro Pascal as the lead punching bag.



Seriously...

The dude is in everything, but almost everything he's ever been in has been a flop...

https://www.the-numbers.com/person/218750401-Pedro-Pascal#tab=acting

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a Boomer comic maybe.
I think its just from a different era, the big sellers have been Spider-Man and Batman, maybe Xmen kind of sells or if you team up Ironman, Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye, Captain America, Black Widow into one movie you also get a huge hit but with Fantastic Four not so much

most comicbook hits are kind of grounded, Ironman is an inventor in a suit, Spider-Man's real alter ego has trouble paying the rent, Batman is gritty etc

The rest were godly, you had Superman which are guys with godly powers, the Flash runs so fast its ridiculous, then you have Flash Gordon I guess he's more real but elite he's also a polo player and Yale University graduate then he goes off to have this ridiculous Fu Machu adventure in 'Space' vs Ming int he movie with a 'Queen' soundtrack he plays football, its fun and campy I guess, you had Wonder Woman more super powers is she another of the gods like Superman?

maybe you can say Fantastic Four is from another time when the 'Nuclear Family' was a thing, good economy traditional happy Christian White family the economy is doing ok until some big KingKong moster comes along and 'Mr Fantatsic' has to figure out how to beat him with a spray or ray gun and rope. Maybe its from a time of The Waltons, The Adventures of Swiss Family Robinson, the RedScare the Commie Russians are coming, John Wayne was the 'good' Cowboy shooting those savage red Indians the tv propaganda said, books you had The Andromeda Strain Michael Crichton, Casino Royale by Ian Fleming, East of Eden John Steinbeck, , Doctor Zhivago Boris Pasternak, Across the River and into the Trees Ernest Hemingway, some scifi writers started to rise during the days of the 'Space Race' the tv had Little House on Prarie, Fantasy Island, the Love Boat, Mr Ed, Hart to Hart, The Beverly Hillbillies, The Green Hornet, The Adams Family, Gilligan's Island, The Price Is Right, the Flintsones?

I guess Fantastic Four was revolutionary for the time...however by the time Tim Burton's Batman arrives, the Xmens or Blade its just way too dated

Fantastic Four was probably relevant in its time but then family would break apart, the 80s recessions, the 1990 oil price shock, divorce and crime and drugs, social issues like civil rights, homeless Vietnam vets, dot com bubble crashing, 911 attacks, more wars, the perfect America Family was gone, maybe the spider-Mans and the Batmans and the Xmen stories became more relevant
although they were comics these Xmen people or Batman they seemed to tell more genuine stories of almost real people


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Tuesday, July 8, 2025 8:51 AM

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Warner Bros. & Legendary's A Minecraft Movie has ended its domestic run with a total domestic gross of $423,949,195.
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1942663148307374252

‘Jurassic World Rebirth’ Roars to Top of China Box Office

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/jurassic-world-rebirth-china-
box-office-1236448362
/

Pacific Rim (2013) vs. Jurassic World Rebirth (2025) vs. Jurassic Park (1993)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Pacific
-Rim/Jurassic-World-Rebirth-(2025)/Jurassic-Park-(1993)#tab=day_by_day_comparison



Monday
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1942661304436830335
1. #JurassicWorldRebirth - $11.70M
2. #F1TheMovie - $3.42M
3. #HowToTrainYourDragon - $1.74M
4. #Elio - $908K
5. #LiloAndStitch - $706K
6. #28YearsLater - $701K
7. #M3GAN2 - $536K


Superman Metascore Generally Favorable Based on 34 Critic Reviews
71%
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/superman-2025/

Superman 86% Tomatometer 87 Reviews
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_2025


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Thursday, July 10, 2025 7:03 AM

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RT score is down again but still good 83%, Metacritic now 70


Superman a loss in Asia? not sure, eyes on Europe, LATAM, and Oceania

Superman opens in Indonesia with an estimated 230.4K admissions on Day 1!
https://x.com/cinepoint_/status/1942976263427354929
Here’s how it stacks up against the year’s top opening days:
#1 Jurassic World: Rebirth — 308.0K
#2 Final Destination: Bloodlines — 275.0K
#3 Captain America: Brave New World — 270.0K
#4 Superman — 230.4K (estimated)
#5 Jalan Pulang — 211.6K


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Thursday, July 10, 2025 11:38 PM

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DC Studios Co-CEO James Gunn Says Rumors That Superman Needs to Make $700M at the Box Office to Be Successful Are 'Just Complete and Utter Nonsense'

https://www.ign.com/articles/dc-studios-co-ceo-james-gunn-says-rumors-
that-superman-needs-to-make-700m-at-the-box-office-to-be-successful-are-just-complete-and-utter-nonsense


No. But it does need to make somewhere in the area of $560 Million to break even, James.

Good luck.




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Thursday, July 10, 2025 11:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Scarlett Johansson has officially become the highest grossing actor of all time. $14.615B in worldwide box office gross from leading roles.
https://awardsradar.com/2025/07/06/box-office-report-july-6/

DC WB Superman’s budget aprox $200M
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-gunn-superman-wont-flop-700-m
illion-1236448433
/


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
the trailer looks good but this franchise has always struggled, it was popular long ago, they had a Hanna-Barbera toon way back in the late 1960s



That makes sense. At one time, during the 60's, Fantastic Four was Marvel's most popular property.

But it's a relic. For whatever reason it didn't age well. My friends NEVER talked once about Fantastic Four during the 80's or 90's. They didn't bother having any cartoons for them, and when they did finally make a movie we didn't even know about it because it was made never to be shown to the public just to maintain the rights.

They've tried putting the on the big screen like 3 times now and nobody cares.

I think they probably nailed the asthetic for this new version, and I think had they not had a bunch of DEI writers and bullshit from the last 5 years involved, just because of the look of this thing I think it would have done well.

But it's a girlboss POS with nobody's favorite Pedro Pascal as the lead punching bag.



Seriously...

The dude is in everything, but almost everything he's ever been in has been a flop...

https://www.the-numbers.com/person/218750401-Pedro-Pascal#tab=acting

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a Boomer comic maybe.
I think its just from a different era, the big sellers have been Spider-Man and Batman, maybe Xmen kind of sells or if you team up Ironman, Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye, Captain America, Black Widow into one movie you also get a huge hit but with Fantastic Four not so much

most comicbook hits are kind of grounded, Ironman is an inventor in a suit, Spider-Man's real alter ego has trouble paying the rent, Batman is gritty etc

The rest were godly, you had Superman which are guys with godly powers, the Flash runs so fast its ridiculous, then you have Flash Gordon I guess he's more real but elite he's also a polo player and Yale University graduate then he goes off to have this ridiculous Fu Machu adventure in 'Space' vs Ming int he movie with a 'Queen' soundtrack he plays football, its fun and campy I guess, you had Wonder Woman more super powers is she another of the gods like Superman?

maybe you can say Fantastic Four is from another time when the 'Nuclear Family' was a thing, good economy traditional happy Christian White family the economy is doing ok until some big KingKong moster comes along and 'Mr Fantatsic' has to figure out how to beat him with a spray or ray gun and rope. Maybe its from a time of The Waltons, The Adventures of Swiss Family Robinson, the RedScare the Commie Russians are coming, John Wayne was the 'good' Cowboy shooting those savage red Indians the tv propaganda said, books you had The Andromeda Strain Michael Crichton, Casino Royale by Ian Fleming, East of Eden John Steinbeck, , Doctor Zhivago Boris Pasternak, Across the River and into the Trees Ernest Hemingway, some scifi writers started to rise during the days of the 'Space Race' the tv had Little House on Prarie, Fantasy Island, the Love Boat, Mr Ed, Hart to Hart, The Beverly Hillbillies, The Green Hornet, The Adams Family, Gilligan's Island, The Price Is Right, the Flintsones?

I guess Fantastic Four was revolutionary for the time...however by the time Tim Burton's Batman arrives, the Xmens or Blade its just way too dated

Fantastic Four was probably relevant in its time but then family would break apart, the 80s recessions, the 1990 oil price shock, divorce and crime and drugs, social issues like civil rights, homeless Vietnam vets, dot com bubble crashing, 911 attacks, more wars, the perfect America Family was gone, maybe the spider-Mans and the Batmans and the Xmen stories became more relevant
although they were comics these Xmen people or Batman they seemed to tell more genuine stories of almost real people




I should ask my old man what his thoughts are on it. He's got a copy of FF#1 and he was in the game back then. I know at one point he was looking forward to the new one when the first pictures came out showing the aesthetics of the movie. But at this point he's already said that he has no interest in watching it for free just because Pedro is starring in it.

I've never actually read a single pane of a FF comic book. My knowledge of them comes only from anything my old man might have said about them when I was a kid, and from the comic book cards I was collecting back then.

I don't know when FF would have fallen out of favor, but by the time I was in jr. high we already had Wolverine on the X-Men and they had developed so much since the initial X-Men group. Think about that... how many awesome characters had been made both on the good guys and bad guys' sides in the X-Men comics since the 60's, and how easy it was to do that in their "universe" as opposed to the changes you could make and the new characters you could introduce with FF. X-Men was inescapable in pop culture for boys before I was even in jr. high. We didn't even care about Spider-Man or even much about Batman while that was going on.

It wasn't until the Toby McGuire Spider-Man came out that he became popular again, and a few years later when Batman got its first theatrical reboot that Batmania took over again.

Fantastic Four was just such an afterthought or never was a thought for most of my life.

Probably doesn't help that 2 of the constant 4 characters made for really boring action figures... They're more like the side-characters that nobody bought in other toy lines.

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Wednesday, July 16, 2025 6:55 PM

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So it looks like Superman is going in the direction of 350-400 Million but overseas in Europe and Asia it crashed

Superman finally passed $150M domestic on Tuesday

Could be a -50% to -55% drop in Second Weekend but there have been worse, falls of -70% are also common with comicbook movies

I think it will do better than Man of Steel
but it wont be doing Minecraft numbers


https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Jurassi
c-World-Rebirth-(2025)/Superman-(2025)/Man-of-Steel#tab=day_by_day_comparison

,
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Oppenheimer-(2023)/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison



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Wednesday, July 16, 2025 9:27 PM

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Those international numbers are the nail in the coffin I think for the entire plan to reboot the DC universe for the 5th time.

Good riddance anyway. Maybe we can just let the Cape Flicks die for a decade or two now.

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Wednesday, July 16, 2025 9:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Those international numbers are the nail in the coffin I think for the entire plan to reboot the DC universe for the 5th time.

Good riddance anyway. Maybe we can just let the Cape Flicks die for a decade or two now.

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Hold up. Wait a minute...

What's this?

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Superman-(2025)#tab=international


All I was hearing about was how badly it did internationally, and I know a few days ago that's what I was seeing at The-Numbers. I had heard several youtubers say that it only made $5 Million in China and a few other places as well over the weekend.

I do see that those opening weekend numbers still show up there, but now I'm seeing MUCH HIGHER numbers for all territories and the international numbers as a whole. And it's only Wednesday. I doubt very much the Monday and Tuesday numbers are even in these "corrections".

$35.8 Million in China. $21.6 Million in the UK. $17.7 Million in France. $15.4 Million in Mexico.

These aren't bad numbers at all.

Current international total is now $159.4 Million, which is nearly $5 Million more than the US take including Monday and Tuesday. And like I said before, I don't believe these revised international numbers include anything beyond Sunday.

Take away the $25 Million it's made in the US since Sunday, and that was an opening weekend of $290 Million. On a production budget of $225 Million, this is easily a winner if it doesn't crash and burn here or internationally.



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Thursday, July 17, 2025 1:21 PM

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from the other thread

Quote:




Superman (2025) vs. Thor: Love and Thunder (2022) vs. Iron Man 2 (2010)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Thor-Love-and-Thunder-(2022)/Iron-Man-2#tab=day_by_day_comparison


Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019) vs. The Batman (2022) vs. Superman (2025)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Spider-
Man-Far-From-Home-(2019)/Batman-The-(2021)/Superman-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


Superman (2025) vs. Logan (2017) vs. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 (2023)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Logan-(2017)/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Vol-3-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison





‘Lilo & Stitch’ Becomes Hollywood’s First Movie to Hit $1 Billion in 2025
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/lilo-stitch-first-2025-movie-billio
n-dollar-global-box-office-1236459515
/


based on a video game?
Mortal Kombat 1995 was a 20 million Budget

remake Mortal Kombat a 2021 film was a 55 million budget

Mortal Kombat II



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Thursday, July 17, 2025 3:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
so it makes money?

$225 million

https://www.thewrap.com/superman-success-stakes-box-office-dc-studios-
warner-bros
/
,
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/mission-impossible
-jurassic-world-superman-box-office-summer-1236255949/



Looks like it with those revised international numbers.

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Friday, July 18, 2025 7:08 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


maybe winners exist while almost everything else crashes....expensive flops exit the stage? or will Trump bail out Hollywood??


Warner Bros and DC winning, Disney/Marvel and Universal does good

Hollywood struggles on the international stage


who else makes money, the Japanese anime guys and gaming companies, small US and European indie studios, the Chinese, Fantawild, the SKorea tv show, Disney/Pixar animated toons, Wanda Pictures, Wai Keung Lau, Japanese Sony, the phone games, Toho, and Xbox and Nintendo.

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Saturday, July 19, 2025 10:40 AM

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Box Office: ‘Superman’ Leaps Past $300M Globally, Nears $200M Domestically
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/box-office-superma
n-300-globally-1236319665
/

WB Superman expected to cross 400M this weekend, heat wave in Europe some say theaters don’t have AC.

big drops in Asia, just American fatigue or comicbook fatigue in general or Superhero fatigue? Japan doesnt really like DC.

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Saturday, July 19, 2025 4:26 PM

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More weird international numbers. I archived them this time, but Box Office Mojo is replicating what the-numbers shows now so it probably won't be changed.

https://archive.ph/3pr6O

Now we're up to $142.8 Million internationally. Doesn't make sense that they'd put those numbers out on Friday night / Saturday morning.

That may be accurate if it's up to date as of Thursday. Because even with just a $95 Million opening weekend internationally, I would expect somewhere around $170-$200 Million at the end of Weekend 2, since the 1st week and 2nd weekend combined is usually pretty close to double the first weekend for the internationals.

It would also mean that yes, Superman should fairly easily cross $400 Million by Sunday night.



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Saturday, July 19, 2025 8:55 PM

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big drops in Asia, just American fatigue or comicbook fatigue in general or Superhero fatigue? Japan doesnt really like DC.


Not sure on this one. Box Office Mojo doesn't even show that it was released in China at all. Bruce's number is still stagnant at the $6.6 Million early number for China. I think my old man may have mentioned that he heard China was shutting it down from because of unrelated (to Hollywood) political/economic issues, but if that's really the case I haven't seen any documenatation about that, and he may have just been getting that confused with earlier reports that it might not have even got a Chinese release from a few weeks ago.

Right now, There's $52 Million unallocated in the "Rest of World" money on Bruce's International Tab, which we have already discovered over time doesn't necessarily mean other countries not on his list, but just that he hasn't taken the time or doesn't yet know the country by country breakdown of the international numbers at this point in time.

And honestly, I'm not sure if that 2nd bump is even new money, or it's some of the 1st weekend money put back after they put it up and took it down the other night. Who knows what the international total really is right now? Near impossible to figure out because of how it is presented even when they're presenting it on a regular schedule. Absolutely impossible for us to track at all when they pull these kinds of stunts.

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Monday, July 21, 2025 8:49 AM

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Marvel/Disney admits Superman is doing good

Kevin Feige on Marvel Studios’ Future, Focusing on Lower Budgets, Less TV and More Robert Downey Jr.: ‘Look at “Superman,” It’s Clearly Not Superhero Fatigue’
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/marvel-kevin-feige-robert-downey-jr
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Absolutely impossible for us to track at all when they pull these kinds of stunts.



I know Japan was notoriously Late often 6 months to almost a year behind the rest, it got faster over the years as people demanded it get to screens quicker with DVDs and streaming


maybe the translator voice over actors were waiting for a big payment, they are much faster now
it said 11th-12th of July 2025 in Japan

However the Japanese market has been shriking as the SKorea one was growing and India and China box office numbers grew, they say Jurassic World Rebirth beat 'Superman' in south Korea

There is also a popular Japan Anime in competition with Superman

Kokuho

'In post-war Japan's economic boom, gangster family-born Kikuo Tachibana finds himself adopted by a kabuki actor.'

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/2025W28/?area=JP

1
Kokuho

2
Superman


3
F1: The Movie

4
Lilo & Stitch

5
Dollhouse

6 -
King of Prism - Your Endless Call- Minna Kirameki! Prism Tours

7
Uta No Prince-Sama: Maji Love Taboo Night Xxxx

8
Frontline Kosai Sekine

9
Baban Baban Ban Vampire

10
Drop

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Monday, July 21, 2025 4:49 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Superman is below Minecraft, a good contest with Jurassic World Rebirth, Superman seems to be with Thor Love and Thunder box office, doing 'The Batman' numbers slightly stronger start to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3

Friday

$16,565,362 /
$194,348,824

Saturday

$23,026,404 /
$217,375,228

Sunday

$18,858,328 /
$236,233,556

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Monday, July 21, 2025 5:46 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
More weird international numbers. I archived them this time, but Box Office Mojo is replicating what the-numbers shows now so it probably won't be changed.

https://archive.ph/3pr6O

Now we're up to $142.8 Million internationally. Doesn't make sense that they'd put those numbers out on Friday night / Saturday morning.

That may be accurate if it's up to date as of Thursday. Because even with just a $95 Million opening weekend internationally, I would expect somewhere around $170-$200 Million at the end of Weekend 2, since the 1st week and 2nd weekend combined is usually pretty close to double the first weekend for the internationals.

It would also mean that yes, Superman should fairly easily cross $400 Million by Sunday night.



Yup. My actual thinking was $410 Million, but I didn't bother saying it because I didn't know for certain what was going on with those internationals. Looks like my instincts were right though.

It looks as though the internationals have been reconciled according to Bruce, and that these are now the current international numbers at roughly $172 Million after the 2nd weekend.

Superman is now at $408 Million worldwide.

It only needs about $155 Million now to break even. It should probably be pretty close to 2/3rds of the way there by the end of next weekend, and another $50-$60 Million should be easy to recoup in the few weeks after that. They'll probably make a few bucks on this one before it goes to streaming.

Depending on its legs, it could even make $100-$150 Million for the studio, especially if the rest of the summer box office is pretty weak and if FF4 takes a huge shit like a lot of people assume it will.

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Wednesday, July 23, 2025 10:54 AM

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if you go 410 then I'll go Low

I'll say 750-760,
Domestic '390' plus 360 overseas or maybe international numbers even lower

its certainly not 40-35% USA and 60-65% international

after Superman remake?



‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Expected To Be Big With $190M-$210M Global Box Office Opening ($100-110M Domestic, $90-100M Overseas)

https://deadline.com/2025/07/fantastic-four-box-office-opening-1236465
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Wednesday, July 23, 2025 8:59 PM

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if you go 410 then I'll go Low



$410 was just about what I thought it would look like after last weekend if I was right about the state of internationals, while saying getting past $400 Million (reported in one of the articles) was something I was in agreement with. It turned out being $408. I didn't say what I thought we were still going to get.

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I'll say 750-760,
Domestic '390' plus 360 overseas or maybe international numbers even lower

its certainly not 40-35% USA and 60-65% international



I agree with you here. $750 sounds about right. It's not going to go over $800 unless a summer miracle happens for it and everything else ends up flopping and people are still watching this thing well into next month.

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after Superman remake?

‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Expected To Be Big With $190M-$210M Global Box Office Opening ($100-110M Domestic, $90-100M Overseas)

https://deadline.com/2025/07/fantastic-four-box-office-opening-1236465
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My prediction on this one opening weekend is that it won't crack $100 Million in the US. I think they're doing whatever damage control they can do to try to save this thing last minute, but the opening weekend predictions just keep getting revised down.

By the end, I expect Disney to lose more money with FF4 and I also expect them to keep Kevin Feige around like they do Kathleen Kennedy because at this point I'm sure both of them have some huge blackmail material against either Bob Iger and/or somebody else big enough that they are unfirable no matter how much damage they do at Disney.

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Friday, July 25, 2025 6:46 PM

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Unless the Marvel fan boys were out in force last night, my sub-$100 Million prediction may have been premature. It grossed $2 Million more than Superman did on preview Thursday and is already 25% on its way to $100 Million before the weekend starts.

Bruce says his model is telling him $157, but he personally thinks that somewhere around $125 sounds right.

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