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I'll say 750-760,
Domestic '390' plus 360 overseas or maybe international numbers even lower

its certainly not 40-35% USA and 60-65% international

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I agree with you here. $750 sounds about right. It's not going to go over $800 unless a summer miracle happens for it and everything else ends up flopping and people are still watching this thing well into next month.

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
so are we looking at Domnestic Sub < 300m for the Fantastic Four movie? in some parts of the international market it is doing better than Superman


‘Superman’ Becomes First DC Pic in Years to Soar Past $300M Domestically
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-box-offic
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Mark Ruffalo Returning as the Hulk for ‘Spider-Man 4’
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/spider-man-brand-n
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1 Ne Zha 2 China $1,994,564,524
2 Lilo & Stitch $1,019,270,728
3 A Minecraft Movie $954,585,398
4 Jurassic World Rebirth $736,406,546
5 How to Train Your Dragon $609,978,139
6 Mission: Impossible—The Final Reckoning $592,101,824

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
they call Superman successful?


James Gunn to Direct ‘Next Movie in the Super-Family’ at DC Studios After ‘Superman’ Success

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-gunn-direct-superman-sequel-s
uper-family-next-movie-1236478012/


Fan4 still needs to lead to this whole multi-verse chaotic story mess and Doomsday

Avengers Doomsday an upcoming American superhero film based on the MCU franchise. Cretton departed, Waldron replaced Loveness as writer, and Marvel was considering moving away from the Kang storyline, in part due to Majors's legal issues; Majors was fired the following month. The return of the Russo brothers as directors and McFeely as co-writer, the casting of Downey as new villain Doctor Doom, and the new subtitle Doomsday were all announced in July 2024.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's looking like Fantastic 4 is going to end up getting spanked by Superman in the end.

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Why Superhero Movies Are Struggling At The International Box Office

https://www.slashfilm.com/1943830/superhero-movies-international-box-o
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's looking like Fantastic 4 is going to end up getting spanked by Superman in the end.

It may have posted a stronger opening weekend by a few million dollars, but after 7 days the Domestic total for both movies after 1 week was $177.7 Million for Superman and only $158.4 Million for Fantastic 4.

It took 11 days for Superman to have a sub-$10 Million day. It only too 6 days for Fantastic Four to drop under $10 Million.

Including Preview Thursday, Superman had a 51% drop from opening weekend to 2nd weekend. Projections I've seen all think that FF4 will fall at least 60% this weekend from last.


The only saving grace FF4 may have is the international numbers, but I think that's too early to tell right now. FF4 has an international share 4% higher than Superman did. We'll see what happens on Monday. 4% doesn't sound like much, but that's 4% both ways and even if this does end up flopping or coming close to breaking even, we're still talking about nearly half a billion here so 4% is still nothing to sneeze at, and could easily be the difference between losing money and barely breaking even.


On paper right now, FF4 had a $200,000,000 budget. I'm not sure that I believe this because it's one of the cheaper budgets I've seen for a Disney/Marvel movie in a while and they say there was quite a bit of changes made after the initial test audiences rejected their intended cut.

But I hear that instead of doing full-blow re-shoots on this one, more of the changes came from simply cutting more out of the movie. That checks out since it's only got a 1hr 40min (100 minute) runtime. According to Google AI, the average run time for all Disney/Marvel movies combined has been 2hr 11min (131 minutes). That leads me to believe that any "fixes" they made here, however disjointed they may have left some parts of the movie, were much, much cheaper than what they had to spend to fix movies like Blacktain Anti-America and the black not-Ariel live-action Little Mermaid reboot nobody asked for.



Will FF4 make $500 Million?

Yeah. I think so. Unless the ticket sales fall off of a cliff this weekend and drop something stupid like -70% or more, I don't see it not making half a Billion.

But people should check back in a year from now and see what Bruce has the production budget for this movie set at then. I've caught Disney now on more than one occassion apparently fessing up to what movies ACTUALLY cost to make long after they've fallen out of the news cycle, and even Bruce doesn't mention that when it happens.


That makes me wonder how much they're paying Bruce not to mention it, really. Because I can't see any other reason why he wouldn't. He's one of very few people who are privy to that info, and even fewer who have current knowledge of changes made like this long after anybody else would even be thinking to look at it.

I don't consider him a stupid person, but I don't understand why he wouldn't say anything about this because there would be money in it for him to do so.

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But the more I think about it though, how much money really would be in it for Bruce to blow the lid on stuff like that when it happened? Probably only a fraction of the money that would be hoovered up all over the place... especially by ambulance-chasing anti-woke YouTube channels that have been hemmoraging viewers all year.

And Bruce has worked up his relationships in Hollywood for a long time, however tight or not they are right now. Probably better and safer for him to just stay out of that and silently update those numbers as he gets them like he's been doing.

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