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Monday, July 15, 2013 4:10 PM

I saw this trailer during the runup to Pacific Rim, and I thought it kind of intriguing and thought you would as well - looks like some pretty "hard" sci-fi with a modern take, and yeah that bolt snatch is straight out of Planetes, which this kind of vaguely reminds me of.

I dunno why, but it looked a little more interesting than the usual fare, to me, anyways.

-F

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Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:50 AM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb

That movie better open with a thorough, epical, and loud as frack Space Shuttle launch.

Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

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Friday, July 19, 2013 7:20 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

Count me in........the trailer is interesting

Sci-fi, I'm there.

SGG

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Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:05 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Well, there's more where that came from - I've been concerned about Kessler Syndrome for some time now...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

See, when we shifted our space program from actual space exploration to corporate buttsucking (cause the shuttle was NO use beyond LEO and satellite placement & maintenence) people seemed to forget how short-sighted corps are, maximum profit right now and damn the longterm consequences, right ?

But it bothers me, cause I dun wanna look at the stars, I want to GO there, I want OFF this damn rock, out to the black and not coming back, yanno ?

Both me and Chris are also fans of an animated series based around resolving the Kessler problem, called Planetes, which while dated in its animation style, is remarkably "hard" in a sci-fi sense, as well it should be cause one of the primary consultants for it was NASA.

Ergo, the trailer for Gravity certainly caught my eye, this is a real and growing problem, the amount of "junk" laying about in satellite orbits, both from corporate apathy, and from all those spy satellites we're pretending so hard not to have, and a nightmare scenario like this isn't just possible, it's all too likely - the international space station has already been bounced once by debris, and satellites from both Russia and Ecuador have also been hit.

-Frem

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Saturday, August 3, 2013 5:12 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

The Kessler effect is an interesting dilemma. It may well be a problem now with all the satellites in orbit. Wasn't there a space junk crash landing not long ago?

SGG

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Well, there's more where that came from - I've been concerned about Kessler Syndrome for some time now...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

See, when we shifted our space program from actual space exploration to corporate buttsucking (cause the shuttle was NO use beyond LEO and satellite placement & maintenence) people seemed to forget how short-sighted corps are, maximum profit right now and damn the longterm consequences, right ?

But it bothers me, cause I dun wanna look at the stars, I want to GO there, I want OFF this damn rock, out to the black and not coming back, yanno ?

Both me and Chris are also fans of an animated series based around resolving the Kessler problem, called Planetes, which while dated in its animation style, is remarkably "hard" in a sci-fi sense, as well it should be cause one of the primary consultants for it was NASA.

Ergo, the trailer for Gravity certainly caught my eye, this is a real and growing problem, the amount of "junk" laying about in satellite orbits, both from corporate apathy, and from all those spy satellites we're pretending so hard not to have, and a nightmare scenario like this isn't just possible, it's all too likely - the international space station has already been bounced once by debris, and satellites from both Russia and Ecuador have also been hit.

-Frem

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 3:15 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Gravity can really get you down, sometimes in more ways than one.

http://templetongate.net/gravity.htm

I'm prepared to be blasted for my opinion. Hopefully it won't be as severe as the damage I saw in the movie.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:03 PM

MAL4PREZ

I'm torn. The reviews make this sound like exactly the kind of movie that draws me to the pricey theaters of Times Square and their full 3D extra large screens with sexy sound effects and stadium seating, etc. But the previews I've seen were just lame. Sandra Bullock is spinning in space. OK. I can't make myself care. Spin away honey and have fun.

If anyone sees this and has an opinion as to whether there's plot and characters interesting enough to give all the pretty pretty space shots meaning, please share with as few spoilers as possible. I'm inclined to punt on this one, but I'd hate to miss out if it's actually good.

I admit, I find Bullock and Clooney annoying. That doesn't help.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:21 PM

MOOSE

I watched it in IMAX 3D.

Story and characters were lacking.
Cinematography was incredible.

Worth a watch for the shiny pics, but have no desire to see it again.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:34 PM

MAL4PREZ

Not encouraging, Moose. About what I expected, sadly.

I think I'd rather wait for Ender's Game (Yes I know the writer is a douche, but the book was good and the previews look awesome!) and the next Thor movie.

I saw Riddick for the 2nd time this weekend. Have to say, it's not the most cerebral movie and I could nit-pick the details for a while, but overall I liked it. It's good escapist fun. I have no problem with that.

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Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:54 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
If anyone sees this and has an opinion...

Scroll up to my post just above yours. I already gave you my opinion.

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Monday, October 7, 2013 1:19 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

Before I read your review I'll state my case for this movie. This movie is one of the best of the year, for shear suspense and exhilarating special FX.
And I dare say there was a story and character development but not in the conventional sense.

Yes, there were moments that it felt like a training film for astronauts, and that's what made the film seem almost documentary-like. But for shear scope, it was fascinating because it felt somewhat like we were a fly on the wall. The cinematography was nothing short of amazing, it reminded me of the film Open Water in story and pacing. What I liked was that Cuaron told the story from start to finish with almost unrelenting tension, but he inserted rare comic relief and at no point did it feel contrived or predictable.

To get back to the story, yes there was one, Clooney's character was the experienced astronaut on a routine mission to repair/maintain a space station (among many) that was now a part of the landscape. The film is shot entirely in the black with earth as a backdrop. It does start out as routine as any NASA training run, but things do get interesting as the trailer suggests. What transpires is nothing short of brilliant on the part of Sandra Bullock, who should receive a Oscar nomination for her performance. It is a vehicle for her as much as anything I've seen her do and makes her role in The Blind Side look like a warm-up, similar to that of a pitcher before he throws a no-hitter.

We find out that she's on that mission for a specific reason (no spoilers here) much like Mal is on board Serenity because of his past and uncertainty in the future. Yes, it is simplistic in it's approach and execution, but it is in that simplicity that the story allows the focus to be on Bullocks character Ryan Stone. I don't want to say more because it would spoil it for those who may want to take the journey.

That's what I felt like as I experienced, yes experienced, this film. The way in which Cuaron shot this film, like cinema virte, I felt as though I was floating through the black along with her and Clooney, and at any moment we could slip away and join Jubal Early in a romp across the coldness of the black.

SGG

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Gravity can really get you down, sometimes in more ways than one.

http://templetongate.net/gravity.htm

I'm prepared to be blasted for my opinion. Hopefully it won't be as severe as the damage I saw in the movie.

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Monday, October 7, 2013 1:43 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

There's more.............Gravity told the tale of Ryan Stone, who, as it turns out, was the main character and what she discovers while on a mission in orbit around Mother Earth.

To me it was a subtle message about how man is polluting space and how powerful nature is, even out in the black. It may not be the kind of movie you want to see over and over again, but it is nonetheless powerful in delivering it's message. It is a story of survival and strength of character but also manages to be subtly emotional without being weepy or sentimental. It is Apollo 13 meets Major Tom. I applaud Cuaron, because there wasn't a single wasted frame. It was meticulously, painstakingly exact from the opening sequence until heart pounding final shot. The beauty of our planet is evident throughout, and no matter how far out in space you are, the old adage is undeniably applicable - wherever you go, there you are.

SGG

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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
If anyone sees this and has an opinion...

Scroll up to my post just above yours. I already gave you my opinion.

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Monday, October 7, 2013 2:05 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

Frem,

I truly believe you'll like this film.

SGG

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Monday, October 7, 2013 2:42 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

Well, obviously because of your deep-seeded love for the space program, you're more in tune than most re: the technical aspects of space exploration. But I did not get the negative message that you got from it, actually just the opposite.

Now, I have not interviewed Cuaron, although I would love to. But my take is that what Cuaron did not send a "negative" message with the script of this film. I got the feeling at the end that what he was saying is that being in space is beautiful and wonderful, but don't take it for granted or turn your back on it because Mother Nature will swallow you whole. It is a metaphor on life. Ryan Stone became distant and cold, much like space, and she needed to stabilize her life and return a new person. Just think for a moment the scene at the end - it is a rebalance. Like I said not a wasted frame.

So cheer up, it is a positive message but one that comes with a warning not to misuse, mistreat or misread Mother Nature in space like we have on earth.

SGG

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Monday, October 7, 2013 2:47 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

It is worth the price of 3D admission. Oh, by the way, Bullock's performance is the best ever for her, or anyone, for that matter. Please don't think that she's doing her Ms. Congeniality schtick.

SGG

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Monday, October 7, 2013 7:04 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I can't fault the technical aspects of the film or Bullock's performance. My disappointment was purely from a scientific viewpoint of how they distorted facts and exaggerated for dramatic effect when it was not necessary.

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Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:51 PM

MAL4PREZ

I saw Gravity yesterday. As stated above, I had my doubts. And I'll say right off that yes, there are non-realistic short cuts the writers took to keep the action moving. I could list them in detail, but I don't see the need to nitpick. Of course short cuts need to be made in order to bring any story to the screen, and nothing here offended me over in an overwhelming way.

OK, except you know how the Bad Guys are really bad shots and somehow miss the Good Guys even when there's no way they could have missed? Turns out that space debris is the same. :/

Also, the writers really don't get conservation of momentum.

Anyway, but da-amn! I can't imagine a more visually interesting and fully engaging movie about being in space. It was gorgeous and if I didn't believe all aspects of the plot, my eyes believed what they saw. So beautiful to watch the view from space for an hour and a half. I will definitely go to this one again, and again I'll pay extra for the 3D and the good sound effects. Just absolutely beautiful.

I am an unwilling fan of this one, but I am now a fan. My goodness, the length of the shots. I was wondering for a good 10-15 minutes (or more?) if they meant to make the entire film without a single break. They didn't, but it went beyond Children of Men as far as that's concerned. I love how the camera and the actors and the ships danced together for minutes and minutes on end.

Also, Bullock and Clooney managed to not be annoying. Yay!

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The misdirection with Clooney showing up was brilliant. The audience cheered when he came back, and when it was revealed to be a hallucination there was total silence.

Another kudos: the throwback to Wall-E and his use of an fire extinguisher as means of moving through space. They got the momentum right with that one!

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Monday, October 14, 2013 12:33 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

I went in with eyes wide open, as well as, my mind. I wondered how they would resolve revealing that there's an accident in space and what would transpire as a result.

As the film began and the opening sequence unfurled, I soon forgot about the overriding question and was awed by the beauty of the opening shot. It reminded me of 2001: A Space Odyssey. The delicate dance of man and machine in the vastness of the black, made all the more intriguing with Mother Earth as a backdrop. It was breathtaking and inspiring in the same brushstroke - it was Beethoven, Monet and Kubrick rolled into one. A work of art, maybe not quite reaching the heights of the aforementioned 2001: A Space Odyssey, but beautiful in scope.

The story was simple, but in it's simplicity it embraced the mundane and seemingly routine (the tightening and untightening of a simple bolt) and heightened the performance of a simple task to that of performing brain surgery out in space. One move - failure or survival. We take for granted the simple gestures of our daily lives and behave carelessly. That's what I got from it.

Bullock's character backstory was slowly revealed to us, and what I found particularly refreshing and satisfying, Cuaron left it to our imagination to fill in the blanks. He allowed us, no, he encouraged us to use our own reasoning and experiences to participate in the story's development. I applaud him for that (no spoon feeding required). It was inspired.
No flashbacks or flash-forwards, no exposition - just pure raw energy, reaction, and eventually, emotion.

It was, as I have said, Apollo 13 meets 2001, sprinkled with a smidge of Contact.

Select to view spoiler:

Clooney's appearance toward the end was brilliant. I was not sure that she didn't die and had gone to heaven - landing on Earth

We will never know the true meaning of that ending.
Brilliant movie, this year's best so far.

SGG

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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
I saw Gravity yesterday. As stated above, I had my doubts. And I'll say right off that yes, there are non-realistic short cuts the writers took to keep the action moving. I could list them in detail, but I don't see the need to nitpick. Of course short cuts need to be made in order to bring any story to the screen, and nothing here offended me over in an overwhelming way.

OK, except you know how the Bad Guys are really bad shots and somehow miss the Good Guys even when there's no way they could have missed? Turns out that space debris is the same. :/

Also, the writers really don't get conservation of momentum.

Anyway, but da-amn! I can't imagine a more visually interesting and fully engaging movie about being in space. It was gorgeous and if I didn't believe all aspects of the plot, my eyes believed what they saw. So beautiful to watch the view from space for an hour and a half. I will definitely go to this one again, and again I'll pay extra for the 3D and the good sound effects. Just absolutely beautiful.

I am an unwilling fan of this one, but I am now a fan. My goodness, the length of the shots. I was wondering for a good 10-15 minutes (or more?) if they meant to make the entire film without a single break. They didn't, but it went beyond Children of Men as far as that's concerned. I love how the camera and the actors and the ships danced together for minutes and minutes on end.

Also, Bullock and Clooney managed to not be annoying. Yay!

Select to view spoiler:
The misdirection with Clooney showing up was brilliant. The audience cheered when he came back, and when it was revealed to be a hallucination there was total silence.

Another kudos: the throwback to Wall-E and his use of an fire extinguisher as means of moving through space. They got the momentum right with that one!

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Monday, October 14, 2013 12:51 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

It gave me the impression that I was hearing a poem or piece of music, perhaps sitting in on Monet as he paints (Impressionistic Art is perhaps my favorite of all, probably because it's allows us to contribute to the piece).

It was, as you correctly state, a dance of sorts. Perfectly paced and directed by Cuaron. The editing, music and acting all orchestrated masterfully. Cuaron should get a Best Director nod, and both Clooney and Bullock, Best Actor and Supporting Actor......without question.

SGG

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Monday, October 14, 2013 6:46 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST

A great film that doesn't impede it's journey with extraneous plot and hyperbolic characterisation. It's a fantastic visual and audio achievement and a celebration of what cinema can do.

A landmark film of the 21st century and one that deserves it's place in the hall of fame. Great work by all involved.

I wasn't a fan of Cuarón's Children of Men because the camera work in that, while impressive and extremely clever, was far too self conscious and detracted from the basic story. (Which wasn't all that in the end).

With Gravity all the camera work and technical savvy works seamlessly with the story.

°...Well here I am.°

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Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:27 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

Agreed.

It is still No. 1 at the Box Office and could possibly be setting records.
An amazing film. It is much more than what is presented on the screen, it is a masterwork of art, a living breathing work of art.

SGG

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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
A great film that doesn't impede it's journey with extraneous plot and hyperbolic characterisation. It's a fantastic visual and audio achievement and a celebration of what cinema can do.

A landmark film of the 21st century and one that deserves it's place in the hall of fame. Great work by all involved.

I wasn't a fan of Cuarón's Children of Men because the camera work in that, while impressive and extremely clever, was far too self conscious and detracted from the basic story. (Which wasn't all that in the end).

With Gravity all the camera work and technical savvy works seamlessly with the story.

°...Well here I am.°

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Monday, December 30, 2013 12:44 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

This is a movie every Firefly fan should see

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Monday, December 30, 2013 11:08 PM

JO753

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I liked it.

I actually saw it at the Lake Zurich theater in Lake Zurich Illinois!

I thot they'd thrown that bit in there to hav sumthing to tailor to every location, but a frend uv mine sez it wuz Lake Zurich where he saw it also.

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 7:22 AM

CLJOHNSTON108

I just can't watch this film a second time.
My problem is with the dialogue, not the "Bad Science" of having Hubble, the ISS, and the Chinese station all within a stone's throw of each other.

In the press releases for Gravity, it was stated that the Cuaróns "studied thousands of NASA photographs," which is obvious, because any still frame from the film is perfectly indistinguishable from those taken during Shuttle missions or from the ISS. No complaints on that front.
But it's painfully obvious that they didn't listen to any mission audio or read any transcripts, because not one line of dialogue sounds remotely similar to anything uttered over the space-to-ground frequency. Case in point: Clooney and his long stories. Mission Control would never ask him to "Please expand."

Also, Bullock and Clooney talk to each other as if they've only just met! He actually asks her, "How long was your training?" Shuttle crews train[ed] together for close to a year, so that question was meaningless, as were all those revelations about Bullock's personal history, which would've been in her Psych Eval.

Maybe it's that I generally dislike English-language films written & directed by those for whom English is a second language, because even though English words are coming out of the actor's mouths, it still feels like badly-translated dubbing.

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 8:10 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by cljohnston108:
But it's painfully obvious that they didn't listen to any mission audio or read any transcripts, because not one line of dialogue sounds remotely similar to anything uttered over the space-to-ground frequency. . . . Maybe it's that I generally dislike English-language films written & directed by those for whom English is a second language, because even though English words are coming out of the actor's mouths, it still feels like badly-translated dubbing.

Destroying the manned space programs of every country in the world, except Mexico, for entertainment was Alfonso Cuarón's & Jonás Cuarón's bigger sin.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, April 21, 2014 8:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Quote:
Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
I'm torn. The reviews make this sound like exactly the kind of movie that draws me to the pricey theaters of Times Square and their full 3D extra large screens with sexy sound effects and stadium seating, etc. But the previews I've seen were just lame. Sandra Bullock is spinning in space. OK. I can't make myself care. Spin away honey and have fun.

If anyone sees this and has an opinion as to whether there's plot and characters interesting enough to give all the pretty pretty space shots meaning, please share with as few spoilers as possible. I'm inclined to punt on this one, but I'd hate to miss out if it's actually good.

I admit, I find Bullock and Clooney annoying. That doesn't help.

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You pretty much nailed it.
If you are farrrrr toooo stupid to be allowed into space, this film is what would happen to you. I expected more of Bullock, but Clooney still ensures the moron factor to be stupendous.

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