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You have no information, no data, 6ix. You are pulling numbers out of your ass than multiplying by inflation which means you have nothing and know nothing. 6ix, you are bloviating, which is very Trump of you.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Here's something interesting...

"Hey Google AI! How much did Bambi make per theatrical release?"

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AI Overview
Learn more
"Bambi" initially lost money upon its 1942 release but, through re-releases and international sales, it earned a worldwide gross of approximately $267 million.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Initial Release (1942): The film was not initially successful, and Disney lost
money on its first run.

Re-releases and International Sales: Over time, through re-releases and international distribution, "Bambi" became a major financial success for Disney.
Worldwide Gross: The film's worldwide gross is estimated to be around $267 million.
Domestic Gross: The domestic gross is estimated to be around $102 million.
International Gross: The international gross is estimated to be around $165 million.
Production Budget: The estimated production budget was around $858,000

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Oh... So it initially LOST money for Disney in 1942. Thank you Google AI. You've
been most helpful.

That makes the inflation adjusted numbers for this much, much worse than I originally
assumed it would be.

I'm going to see if I can dig up actual numbers and if I can find them we'll settle
this thing once and for all.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a little bitch, Second.

And everyone here knows it.

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a little bitch, Second.

And everyone here knows it.

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6ix, theater ticket sales are dropping

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Originally posted by second:
You have no information, no data, 6ix. You are pulling numbers out of your ass than multiplying by inflation which means you have nothing and know nothing. 6ix, you are bloviating, which is very Trump of you.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Here's something interesting...

"Hey Google AI! How much did Bambi make per theatrical release?"

Quote:

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AI Overview
Learn more
"Bambi" initially lost money upon its 1942 release but, through re-releases and international sales, it earned a worldwide gross of approximately $267 million.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Initial Release (1942): The film was not initially successful, and Disney lost
money on its first run.

Re-releases and International Sales: Over time, through re-releases and international distribution, "Bambi" became a major financial success for Disney.
Worldwide Gross: The film's worldwide gross is estimated to be around $267 million.
Domestic Gross: The domestic gross is estimated to be around $102 million.
International Gross: The international gross is estimated to be around $165 million.
Production Budget: The estimated production budget was around $858,000

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Oh... So it initially LOST money for Disney in 1942. Thank you Google AI. You've
been most helpful.

That makes the inflation adjusted numbers for this much, much worse than I originally
assumed it would be.

I'm going to see if I can dig up actual numbers and if I can find them we'll settle
this thing once and for all.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


This is a movie I'd never even heard of until 10 minutes ago.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Are you a fucking dummy? Or do you understand the data as it has been presented above and will you acknowledge that it is true?

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a little bitch, Second.

And everyone here knows it.

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6ix, theater ticket sales are dropping

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We're not talking about that stupid.

You either address this, or stay the fuck out of my threads.

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Originally posted by second:
You have no information, no data, 6ix. You are pulling numbers out of your ass than multiplying by inflation which means you have nothing and know nothing. 6ix, you are bloviating, which is very Trump of you.

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How's this for bloviating, bitch?

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Here's something interesting...

"Hey Google AI! How much did Bambi make per theatrical release?"

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AI Overview
Learn more
"Bambi" initially lost money upon its 1942 release but, through re-releases and international sales, it earned a worldwide gross of approximately $267 million.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Initial Release (1942): The film was not initially successful, and Disney lost
money on its first run.

Re-releases and International Sales: Over time, through re-releases and international distribution, "Bambi" became a major financial success for Disney.
Worldwide Gross: The film's worldwide gross is estimated to be around $267 million.
Domestic Gross: The domestic gross is estimated to be around $102 million.
International Gross: The international gross is estimated to be around $165 million.
Production Budget: The estimated production budget was around $858,000

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Oh... So it initially LOST money for Disney in 1942. Thank you Google AI. You've
been most helpful.

That makes the inflation adjusted numbers for this much, much worse than I originally
assumed it would be.

I'm going to see if I can dig up actual numbers and if I can find them we'll settle
this thing once and for all.

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More information from Bruce's page...

https://the-numbers.com/movie/Bambi-(1942)#tab=box-office

He doesn't have any receipts for it before the 80's, but it appears to have made $5,723,384
during what appears to be a one-week/two-weekend re-release in 1982 and another $24,960,324
in 1988.


Without knowing the full details on how much it made in any of the other years, let's re-do
the inflation math based off of what we DO know now.

FACTS

1. Bambi Grossed $102,797,000 over the course of 46 years in theaters. None of this is adjusted
for inflation, so since the releases were roughly 7 or 8 years apart from each other, knowing
what the film made every release is EXTREMELY important if you want to know what the movie
actually made in today's dollars.

2. Bambi Grossed $5,723,384 in 1982. It grossed $24,960,324 in 1988. Now we know that
nearly 1/3rd of the total lifetime gross needs to have inflation adjusted for the 80s and not 1942.

3. Bambi lost money upon its original 1942 release. Per estimates, Bambi cost $858,000
to produce in 1942. Let's be EXTREMELY generous and say that even back in 1942 they considered
a movie a flop if it didn't generate 2.5 times the production budget, even though the ratio they
needed to reach was nowhere near as high as it is today. That means it earned less than
$2,145,000 to be considered a flop. So now we know that no more than $2,145,000 of the lifetime
gross can have inflation applied from 1942.

I will state that again. Only $2,145,000 (or 2.086% of the Lifetime Domestic Gross)
can have inflation applied from 1942.

4. Though we still don't know what Bambi made in 1957, 1966 or 1975, what we DO know is that
all but $2,145,000 or less of the lifetime gross needs to be applied to 1957 or later.

In other words, nearly 98% of the inflation applied to the Lifetime Gross of Bambi needs to
be applied to 1957 and later. Not 1942.



Now.... Let's work backward.


1988 Release: $24,960,324 (24.28% of the Lifetime Gross)

1988 Release Adjusted for Inflation: $67,323,669.51

MEANING: 24.28% of the Lifetime Gross of Bambi only amounts to $67,323,669.51 in 2025 dollars.

(Check my work here)

https://www.calculator.net/inflation-calculator.html?cstartingamount1=
24%2C960%2C324&cinmonth1=13&cinyear1=1988&coutmonth1=2&coutyear1=2025&calctype=1&x=Calculate#uscpi



1982 Release: $5,723,384 (5.57% of the Lifetime Gross)

1982 Release Adjusted for Inflation: $18,924,650.92

MEANING: 5.57% of the Lifetime Gross in 1982 plus the 24.28% of the Lifetime Gross equals
29.85% of the Lifetime Gross for Bambi.

(Check my work here)

https://www.calculator.net/inflation-calculator.html?cstartingamount1=
5%2C723%2C384&cinmonth1=13&cinyear1=1982&coutmonth1=2&coutyear1=2025&calctype=1&x=Calculate#uscpi

$18,924,650.92 + $67,323,669.51 = $86,248,320.43

This is the inflation adjusted Gross total for the last two releases in 1982 and 1988.
This means that 29.85% of the Lifetime Gross now amounts to only $86,248,320.43 in 2025 dollars.


Until when and if I figure out how much it made in 1957, 1966 and 1975, I am forced once
again to be EXTREMELY generous and I will calculate the grosses for all three of these
releases vs. the 1957 release for inflation.


Now let's figure out the amount we're going to need to apply 1957 inflation to...

Total Lifetime Gross: $102,797,000
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1988 Release: $24,960,324

= $77,836,676
-
1982 Release: $5,723,384

= $72,113,292
-
1942 Release (the flop): $2,145,000 or less (I'm giving the benefit of the doubt on that
full number which likely wasn't near that high, which is more beneficial to the movie in
terms of calculating inflation once we work our way down to 1942 below and calculate it
there instead of 1957.).

= $69,968,292


1957 + 1966 + 1975 combined gross: $69,968,292

Now let's apply inflation from 1957 to $69,968,292 and see what happens....

$794,506,140.50

MEANING: The absolute MOST money that Bambi could have possibly made in domestic theaters,
adjusted for inflation is FAR less than $1 Billion in 2025 dollars. This
$794,506,140.50 number we just got would only be the case if the 1966 and 1975 releases
never happened and you could legitimately apply 1957 inflation numbers to nearly $70 Million.
In reality it's made much lower than this.

(Check my work here)

https://www.calculator.net/inflation-calculator.html?cstartingamount1=
69%2C968%2C292&cinmonth1=13&cinyear1=1957&coutmonth1=2&coutyear1=2025&calctype=1&x=Calculate#uscpi


Now for shits and giggles, let us now apply the ACTUAL amount of 1942 inflation to the mix.

1942 Release: $2,145,000
Adjusted for inflation: $41,989,625.15

MEANING: Nope. That's sure as hell not going to get us over a Billion.

(Check my work here)

https://www.calculator.net/inflation-calculator.html?cstartingamount1=
2%2C145%2C000&cinmonth1=13&cinyear1=1942&coutmonth1=2&coutyear1=2025&calctype=1&x=Calculate#uscpi


So let's add all that up now, shall we?

1988 Release (Adjusted for Inflation): $67,323,669.51
1982 Release (Adjusted for Inflation): $18,924,650.92
1957/1966/1975 Releases (all factored in at 1957 inflation): $794,506,140.50
1942 Release (Adjusted for Inflation): $41,989,625.15

TOTAL: $922,744,086.08


MEANING: I'm not even going to bother investigating this further. It simply does not matter
one iota how much of that money was made between 1957 and 1975 since any change makes my
unbreakable argument that you forced me to make even stronger.

So no. Bambi did not have a Lifetime Domestic Gross of $3,335,446,057 after you adjust
for inflation. Not even close. Bruce IS wrong. You are wrong.

The ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM that Bambi could have ever made Lifetime Gross adjusted for
2025 inflation is $922,744,086.08. , just like I said earlier when I told you that
Bruce was making more than a Billion dollar mistake on his end and that once you factored
all of this in that was going to be at least another Billion dollar mistake on your end on
top of his. And all of this just amounted to another wonderful illustration of why it's
just so easy for you to be lead around by the nose all the time. It's Libtard Math. Democrat's
can't Math. Democrats can't think critically. Democrats never question an "expert" about
anything even as simple and meaningless as the lifetime domestic gross of Bambi. Democrats
are retarded.

In reality, once somebody knows what the actual breakdown by year was for 1957, 1966 and 1975,
it's likely that this only made between $400 Million and $600 Million Lifetime Domestic
Gross adjusted for inflation to 2025 dollars.

And don't even get me started on the International money. I don't know if it even got an
international release until the 5th re-release in 1982, AND NEITHER DO YOU. There is zero
possible way to even speculate what that international money truly translates to unless
somebody had an international breakdown by release. It's why I'd already gotten a great
laugh seeing the inflation calculators say that it made over $5 Billion worldwide when
you took the Worldwide Lifetime Gross and applied it all to 1942... over an hour before your
stupid ass told me to do it like you were going to prove a point or something.


I don't normally go out of my way to explain to simpletons how much higher a level my brain runs
at than most stupid folk like you. I didn't need to do any of this math to know what the truth
was. And as it so turns out, my numbers that I "pulled out of my ass" earlier were actually
MUCH better for your argument than reality was. And that comes as no surprise to me because
along with 4 1/2 decades of being the smartest guy in the room came the realization that I
should do my best to try to curb any predictions I make publicly so I don't look like a giant
asshole like you do right now.

Do you even understand any of this, or was all of this wasted on somebody too stupid to ever
understand any of it?

This is not a rhetorical question. I truly do not know the answer to this question. You
wouldn't understand how different life is from yours when you're on the other side of the
Dunning-Kruger spectrum and you've spent most of your life assuming that every stupid asshole
out there understands things on your level until you slowly start to realize you've wasted
so much time giving so many people far more credit than they deserve.

Are you a fucking dummy? Or do you understand the data as it has been presented above
and will you acknowledge that it is true?



Unless you have a mathematical argument against any of these figures or hell freezes over
and you apologize for your stupidity and tell everyone you were wrong, you can go on right
ahead now and shut the fuck up.


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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Nobody cares, 6ix. You are wasting time life energy.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You're a fucking creep.

You have ZERO ability to investigate anything for yourself, let alone even question anything that you're told on top of that.

You are a fucking dummy, and you are one of the most disingenuous people I've ever known, as well as a coward and a fool.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

This is a lesson for you, you dumb jagoff. This is indicative of every single conversation we've ever had here. This is the shit I have to deal with every fucking day here with your miserable prick attitude and your 65 IQ. None of that time was wasted. I put you in your fucking place. HARD. I could do the same thing to you every day if I cared about you half as much as you care about me, always reading every word about my personal life that was not directed at you and keeping copies of it to quote months or even years later.

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You're a fucking creep.

You have ZERO ability to investigate anything for yourself, let alone even question anything that you're told on top of that.

You are a fucking dummy, and you are one of the most disingenuous people I've ever known, as well as a coward and a fool.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Did it occur to you that all Trumptards act and speak, inside their heads, exactly like you do, 6ix?

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

No. It didn't, because they don't. I don't care about any of them right now. I don't care about any Democrats right now.

This is all about you, specifically.

You are stupid. You have a big stupid mouth. You are an asshole. You never learn any lessons. You're not 1/10th as smart as you think you are. If you've ever been right about anything in your life it was completely on accident.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a little bitch, Second.

And everyone here knows it.

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6ix, theater ticket sales are dropping

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Originally posted by second:
You have no information, no data, 6ix. You are pulling numbers out of your ass than multiplying by inflation which means you have nothing and know nothing. 6ix, you are bloviating, which is very Trump of you.

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Quote:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Here's something interesting...

"Hey Google AI! How much did Bambi make per theatrical release?"

Quote:

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AI Overview
Learn more
"Bambi" initially lost money upon its 1942 release but, through re-releases and international sales, it earned a worldwide gross of approximately $267 million.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Initial Release (1942): The film was not initially successful, and Disney lost
money on its first run.

Re-releases and International Sales: Over time, through re-releases and international distribution, "Bambi" became a major financial success for Disney.
Worldwide Gross: The film's worldwide gross is estimated to be around $267 million.
Domestic Gross: The domestic gross is estimated to be around $102 million.
International Gross: The international gross is estimated to be around $165 million.
Production Budget: The estimated production budget was around $858,000

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Oh... So it initially LOST money for Disney in 1942. Thank you Google AI. You've
been most helpful.

That makes the inflation adjusted numbers for this much, much worse than I originally
assumed it would be.

I'm going to see if I can dig up actual numbers and if I can find them we'll settle
this thing once and for all.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Unless you have a mathematical argument against any of these figures or hell freezes over and you apologize for your stupidity and tell everyone you were wrong, you can go on right ahead now and shut the fuck up.


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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Unless you have a mathematical argument against any of these figures or hell freezes over and you apologize for your stupidity and tell everyone you were wrong, you can go on right ahead now and shut the fuck up.


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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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6ix, I don't care about Disney's ticket sales but you and I know someone who does: The Numbers web master. Convince that person to revise The Numbers for Snow White, not me. I don't care. 6ix, to me you are just another Trumptard who thinks he is a genius. None of them are, but all of them think they are better than average. If you convince The Numbers to change the numbers for this movie then you are the genius you think you are, not the conceited asshole I think you are from many years experience with you.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: at Thursday, March 27, 2025 4:58 AM

The fact that you don't care is irrelevant.

You told me I was wrong over and over and over again, and you cited Bruce's numbers as the reason I was wrong, while telling me that I was pulling numbers out of my ass (which I proved was not the case). I told you again and again, why you were wrong and why citing Bruce's numbers was a mistake. I even gave Bruce the benefit of the doubt about this and said that if he put in ways to try to fix this for each and every movie that had strange quirks like this than he would probably end up breaking the functionality of his website. (And incidentally, this is exactly why I would never even bother Bruce complaining about a single number being wrong on his site, because of the can of worms it would open for him if he actually wanted to fix this problem. It is not a simple problem to solve, and in the scheme of things, as you said, it doesn't really matter).

But that's why I said it was incumbent upon the individual to make an educated judgement of those "facts" being presented by figuring out things for themselves with the available data. Not only with inflation calculations for 80+ year old movies, but EVERYWHERE regarding EVERYTHING. I knew the second that you told me $3.3 Billion lifetime that it wasn't even close to the truth. Since I already knew the movie had many re-releases over decades, coming to the conclusion that Bruce's number was wrong was a simple low-level sub-routine in the back of my mind that ran automatically and spit out instantaneous results.

I also saw the $5 Billion+ worldwide gross with an inflation calculator over 1 hour before you mentioned that to me and laughed about how wrong that was too. I didn't need to do any of that math for my own benefit. I already knew that your number was well over $2 Billion more than reality without doing the math, and I'd already said as much several times. After one too many insults out of you, I got to work on the math to show you why I was right and why you are a stupid person.

And then you did what you always do. You run away from the issue. And when that doesn't work, you try to trivialize it after you spent so long making a big deal out of it until you were put in your place.

Nobody is arguing that this is not a trivial matter, but YOU started the dialogue in your regular shit way, and you were wrong about it from the very first post and you became increasingly insulting and obnoxious about it every step of the way. And I'm going to keep reminding you of that until you become a man, apologize and admit you were wrong, or you finally shut your stupid fucking mouth.

All anybody has to write in an article or say on TV is "studies show that", or "experts believe that" and you're 100% bought in. Your conscious mind shuts down completely and you believe everything that follows. You have no critical thinking skills and therefore you have no agency.

You're nothing more than a mere signal booster.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Originally posted by second:
You have no information, no data, 6ix. You are pulling numbers out of your ass than multiplying by inflation which means you have nothing and know nothing. 6ix, you are bloviating, which is very Trump of you.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Here's something interesting...

"Hey Google AI! How much did Bambi make per theatrical release?"

Quote:

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AI Overview
Learn more
"Bambi" initially lost money upon its 1942 release but, through re-releases and international sales, it earned a worldwide gross of approximately $267 million.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Initial Release (1942): The film was not initially successful, and Disney lost
money on its first run.

Re-releases and International Sales: Over time, through re-releases and international distribution, "Bambi" became a major financial success for Disney.
Worldwide Gross: The film's worldwide gross is estimated to be around $267 million.
Domestic Gross: The domestic gross is estimated to be around $102 million.
International Gross: The international gross is estimated to be around $165 million.
Production Budget: The estimated production budget was around $858,000

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Oh... So it initially LOST money for Disney in 1942. Thank you Google AI. You've
been most helpful.

That makes the inflation adjusted numbers for this much, much worse than I originally
assumed it would be.

I'm going to see if I can dig up actual numbers and if I can find them we'll settle
this thing once and for all.

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Originally posted by second:
“I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a more clear-cut case of a movie being purposefully review-nuked for culture war-adjacent reasons.”

By Paul Tassi | Mar 29, 2025, 08:29am EDT

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/03/29/snow-white-review-bo
mbed-into-the-worst-blockbuster-in-imdb-history/

Every time “review bombing” is brought up, there is always pushback saying that the movie is “really that bad.” But audience scores, which Rotten Tomatoes uses “verified ratings” for to (mostly) ensure people who are voting have seen the film are all the way up at a 74%.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Following Deadline’s projection of $20 million for its second Friday-Sunday frame — a 53% drop in business from its opening weekend — the trade publication is now estimating the film will take in only $13.7 million from 4,200 theaters in its second weekend for a No. 2 finish.

The projected weekend tally marks a 68% drop in Snow White’s opening weekend box office.

With Snow White’s box office freefall in its second weekend, Amazon MGM’s action thriller A Working Man is projected to seize the box office crown from the live-action Disney princess movie.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It did still manage to crack $100 Million last night, but just barely. I wonder how many articles I can find praising Disney for that success.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

The movie cost $270 Million to make.

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

The movie cost $270 Million to make.

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Snow White cost $50 million. The other $220 million was fraud, embezzlement, and Disney executives padding their bank accounts at the expense of Disney stockholders, who are mostly large mutual funds.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by second:
(I saw this movie as a 10-year-old on TV. It was a lame-ass piece of crap even in the 1960's. The 2025 version is much better. Red Shoes and the Seven Dwarfs (2019) is better than either because it does not have all the singing. Get it for free: https://yts.mx/movies/red-shoes-and-the-seven-dwarfs-2019 )

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bruce doesn't know what to think. He just gave a prediction for a 50% drop without any reasoning or math behind it.


Forbes says 68%, which is the same drop that Blacktain Anti-America got.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timlammers/2025/03/29/snow-white-in-freef
all-with-68-drop-at-weekend-box-office-working-man-eyes-no-1/

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Following Deadline’s projection of $20 million for its second Friday-Sunday frame — a 53% drop in business from its opening weekend — the trade publication is now estimating the film will take in only $13.7 million from 4,200 theaters in its second weekend for a No. 2 finish.

The projected weekend tally marks a 68% drop in Snow White’s opening weekend box office.

With Snow White’s box office freefall in its second weekend, Amazon MGM’s action thriller A Working Man is projected to seize the box office crown from the live-action Disney princess movie.

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Freefall from what though?

Under the best circumstances, the $43 Million opening weekend and sub-$100 Million worldwide number already doomed this to losing hundreds of millions in the first place.

This movie started at the bottom of a big hole. All we're doing now is filling it in.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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We weren’t expecting a great second weekend for Snow White, but its performance this weekend is shockingly poor for a family film, with Disney projecting a 66% decline from its already lackluster debut. A Working Man has, in comparison, had an excellent run through the weekend to grab a surprise top spot on the box office chart.

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