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Jane Seymour in her flight suit during training....oh my.

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I loved the 3rd season

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I loved the 3rd season

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Oh look, suddenly Starbuck's a Cylon; lets kill her too

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Not only was the original series cheesy, it wasn't even real cheese, but rather that bland tasteless crud made from soy.

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I loved the 3rd season

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Back to this now are we? Chris, you gotta go look up some of those debates from near the end of season 3. There were some real bare-knuckle brawls over whether the "final five" are Starbuck, Anders, Tyrol, Tigh, and Tory (Roslin's aide). I took the ultra-unpopular stance of saying, they may be, they may not be--but at this point we just don't know! May the games begin--again!

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And as for lawyer, fat Lee, maybe the script originally said he'd work for a "flat fee", and some doofus accidentally just read "fat Lee". :)

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Jane Seymour in her flight suit during training....oh my.

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Haven't actually seen those eps since 1979!!!
She was my first crush Chrisisall

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Boomer a Cylon, now that was original! And it weren't entirely disfunctional to introduce the 'what-if' question either, to explain some of the psychology of our "No more Mr. Nice Gaius". But Starbuck, Anders, Tyrol, Tigh, and Tory?? That's like someone opened an airlock, and all the show's credibility got sucked right into space! ("blown", as Data would say).

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Boomer a Cylon, now that was original! And it weren't entirely disfunctional to introduce the 'what-if' question either, to explain some of the psychology of our "No more Mr. Nice Gaius". But Starbuck, Anders, Tyrol, Tigh, and Tory?? That's like someone opened an airlock, and all the show's credibility got sucked right into space! ("blown", as Data would say).

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But we don't "know" that they're Cylons. There may be strong reasons to suspect that they are. But there may be something else to explain the phenomenon that they're all experiencing. Until we see the final five we won't know.

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To this day, I can look back at that pivotal moment in the Pilot when ultra-naive, "liberal", wanna make peace President Lew Ayres turns around and realizes what an utter fool idiot dupe he and his Govt. were, and how he is responsible for the destruction of humanity & civilization. I think that potential scenario still rings true even louder now than ever in our little corner of the galaxy.

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Saw the old series when it first came out, was really into it, for the first season. Then things started getting repetitive: Cylons attack, humans running away, over and over and over.

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Testing a new avi..

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They’re both good in their own way, but if I’m forced to pick one or the other, I would have to go with the old BSG because, in spite of its many disadvantages it still managed to tell a compelling and imaginative story that was suitable for children.

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The original is a cheese fest

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You say that like it's a bad thing.
You got something against curdled milk, Mac?

Glory, anyone?
Adam?
Mr. Universe?

Make mine with extra cheese please Chrisisall

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I guess I'm just lactose intollerant with my SciFi.

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More agreement here.
And if ya like Jane, see Somewhere In Time, Sinbad And The Eye Of The Tiger, and Lassiter (whoah!).

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after I did, I really liked it.

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The original is a cheese fest, and hard to watch now. The new Battlestar, while far from perfect, is still far superior to the original. The acting is better, the stories more dramatic, and the production values are movie quality.

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The original is a cheese fest, and hard to watch now. The new Battlestar, while far from perfect, is still far superior to the original. The acting is better, the stories more dramatic, and the production values are movie quality.

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I'm no fan of the original, it had silly episodes, badly written characters, it was very different with the Muffits and Dirk Benedict characters but at least it tried to be fun and it was original.

You've seen the Nielsen Ratings for the new series, people have stopped watching and with poor story telling and silly sub plots that's just too bad. It was once a good series that had great potential to be really good scifi, now its just got plain silly and people have stopped watching

There were many graphs posted on its poor ratings



The new series has taken a nose dive, there are many reasons why.

How groundbreaking was the new BSG ? Websites like battlestargalatcia seem to imply that the new guys borrowed a heck of a lot of material from DeSanto, Hatch and Singer's vision which were trying to push for a continuity on Battlestar's storyline, their films fell into development hell. The Dalton character from Richard Hatch's books is almost an exact match for the Kara Thrace character.

http://www.battlestargalactica.com/hatchvision.htm


The Battlestar got bad, Season 2.5 - S3 had too many poor episodes, yes you had cool CGI making Galactia planet jump in Exodus but the majority of the series was way below par, Black Market is a lame shock jock episode. Selling children off as some kind of hooker is just an example of depraved shock jockery directing and the new BSG directors/producers were trying to be controversial just for the sake of it. 'Hero' is also a bad ep, the Rocky in space episode was terrible. The new BSG became overly political, Joss is liberal and so are many other Hollywood producers but they write a show conservatives can also enjoy. The new BSG alienated viewers by using Cylon war apology, injecting political abortion stuff and blaming the U.S. for 9/11.


Season 1 of the New bsg did do its story telling very well, it was good scifi with good characters but there's more than just a LOT of remarkable coincidences between the films which fell into development hell and the re-imagined series by Moore and Eick suddenly got flying. Besides the word 'reimagined' does have a much better ring to it than rip-off.

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Take this review
http://movies.ign.com/articles/444/444434p2.html
"The Cylons despise mankind so much that they will settle for nothing less than bombing us out of existence. So, the next generation model of Cylon...what...looks human?

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