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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
The problem with this show is that there's nothing to it.

Nothing interesting happens: Paranoia, flee, fight. Lather, rinse, repeat.

The story isn't actually going anywhere, none of the characters are compelling or sympathetic, and there is no plot other than to Keep John Connor Alive. Not to mention, you can only smash so many of the wrong computers before the whole "find and destroy SkyNet" becomes a bit of a joke. And I really don't care about "Growing Up Connor", so if they continue with the boo hoo teen angst bullshit, the show is going to cancel itself.

The only semi-interesting character is Summer's, and even then, watching her be an emotionless drone who says or does a few untinentionally quirky or funny things week after week gets a bit mundane. Last week's episode was, so far, the only episode where something new and interesting happens to give any of the characters a little depth. Unfortunately, last week's episode may have happened too late.

For now, Summer Glau is the only reason I watch the show. If she weren't in it, I wouldn't bother.

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As for TTSCC, darkness is okay when balanced with humor, as Joss likes to say. But TTSCC has no humor. Or sex. Or nudity. OD on adrenaline, subclinical level of natural opiates = bum trip.

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Originally posted by lwaves:

I keep reading of these Neilsen ratings you have in the US and it seems to me, as an outsider, that they are pretty much useless if they don't take into account the many ways of viewing a show. I would imagine that more people record a show these days than watch it live. Especially with DVR's where you can start watching after the show has started. Do they get counted? I doubt it.

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
It's not the actors fault, the writers need to be fired. This show needs to be overhauled.

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:

Watched a few episodes and then thought "what a waste of talent". Now here the writing is truly stunted and mundane.

Step 1: Sarah and John fight over whatever
Step 2: Other Terminators come close to finding John
Step 3: Cameron comes in and kicks ass. BTW these "action" scenes are quite stilted. There is no real drama here, just a lot of things getting "blowed up real good".

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Originally posted by xraftermanx:
I DVR everything and FF through it all but tonight I watched the beginning and Dodge stated it was limited commercial interruption. So I started watching and low and behold they were limited and the commercials were actually decent at least for me. Teams of guys throwing Ram trucks around... who wouldn't want to do that. It was like watching stunts done right. Of course there was a lot of product placement with Dodge and the new Ram and it's new features but it didn't detract from the story. Hopefully this will be a taste of things to come. It's not too much to ask to be entertained while be informed of new products. Totally beats all the Political ads.

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Originally posted by traveler:
I watched Sarah on FOX.COM. But if all the programs are equally hurting in the rateings then it all balances. Give them a few episodes and people will drift back. I'm not worried. These are good shows and will prove themselves worthy. One thing that does cause some of this is that there is not one grand week where they all primier. These shows are being brought back on different weeks so they lose the impact of a starting a new season with a bang. I am still waiting for "Life on Mars". There are other shows I still have heard nothing about. So it just needs time. I'm telling people about "Fringe" so I hope they get hooked. I know I am.

I just love "Fringe". The first episode was on in the UK on Sky One Sunday and it was very good. Can't wait to see more. I have been telling my friends to tune in, it is that good. As for TSCC I have caught a few episodes but apart from wanting to see Summer there was no real emotional pull to the show so I just couldn't get hooked no matter how much I wanted to for her sake. Just caught an episode of "Desperate Housewives" and it's the eppy where Gary Cole's bad guy knocks Nathan's character out then ties him to a chair. Hmm, looks like our Cappy could use some BDHs just about now...



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Originally posted by Zeek:
Who thinks the "never back down" title for the contest is holding it back? I think a "hope summer gets a better role after this stinker gets canceled" sweepstakes would go over much better.

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Originally posted by Jubal99:
That's one of the reasons the show is not performing. People like Zeek who should be grateful that Summer was one of the main reasons Firefly was good and not trash her new project everytime he sees fit. I thought Firefly was anti-troll but this guy is a bonafide troll. Browncoats don't support Summer the way they should and you wonder why Firefly and Serenity failed. Just shut your yap and support. Simple as that. I'm ashamed to be a browncoat reading some of these messages. Terminator is now IT.

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Who thinks the "never back down" title for the contest is holding it back? I think a "hope summer gets a better role after this stinker gets canceled" sweepstakes would go over much better.

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That's one of the reasons the show is not performing. People like zeek who should be grateful that Summer was one of the main reasons Firefly was good and not trash her new project everytime he sees fit. I thought Firefly was anti-troll but this guy is a bonafide troll. Browncoats don't support Summer the way they should and you wonder why Firefly and Serenity failed. Just shut your yap and support. Simple as that. I''m ashamed to be a browncoat reading some of these messages. Terminator is now IT.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I still think they should just pull it for now, and use the currently filmed but unaired episodes to relaunch in January, after 24.

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Who thinks the "never back down" title for the contest is holding it back? I think a "hope summer gets a better role after this stinker gets canceled" sweepstakes would go over much better.

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That's one of the reasons the show is not performing. People like zeek who should be grateful that Summer was one of the main reasons Firefly was good and not trash her new project everytime he sees fit. I thought Firefly was anti-troll but this guy is a bonafide troll. Browncoats don't support Summer the way they should and you wonder why Firefly and Serenity failed. Just shut your yap and support. Simple as that. I'm ashamed to be a browncoat reading some of these messages. Terminator is now IT.

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Who thinks the "never back down" title for the contest is holding it back? I think a "hope summer gets a better role after this stinker gets canceled" sweepstakes would go over much better.

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That's one of the reasons the show is not performing. People like zeek who should be grateful that Summer was one of the main reasons Firefly was good and not trash her new project everytime he sees fit. I thought Firefly was anti-troll but this guy is a bonafide troll. Browncoats don't support Summer the way they should and you wonder why Firefly and Serenity failed. Just shut your yap and support. Simple as that. I'm ashamed to be a browncoat reading some of these messages. Terminator is now IT.

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Sadly, it don't work like that. You can't support something ex nihilo, or just because you decide a person is in it you like.

Sad truth is, TSCC were doomed to fail from the get-go. It had so many internal inconsistencies to start with, that it already could never become a great show -- all, at best, it could hope for, from that moment on was, was damage control and salvage.

Summer has been great. Her portrayal of "Allison from Palmdale" alone should win her an Emmy. But Summer, no matter how good she is, needs a good script and directors. To say otherwise would be tantamount to saying Joss had nothing to do with Firefly's success. Call it a 'mutual beneficial business arrangement', if you will. And TSCC, without Summer, were hardly even mediocre. I'm sorry about that. A lot went wrong. The 'twerp', his annoyingly always-angry mom, the countless script errors, a storyline that seems to go nowhere, etc. I mean, I ain't sayin' I didn't want it to be different, but the moment it came out, I knew 'tweren't long-lived. In fact, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.

There were decidedly some half-way decent episodes, where I sat up in my seat a bit, hoping things would pick up from there, only to see my hopes dashed in the next episode.

Also, point of interest, to force Summer to stay in a boat that's clearly sinking, may ultimately just prove to cause her star to sink along with it.

Perhaps it really is time to let go of TSCC.

N.B. And don't tell me now I don't love Summer enough, for she was the main reason I came here, couple of years back. But way it is is the way it is.

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Originally posted by whozit:

Do'nt give up yet, it's going to have a full season. go to www.summer-glau.net for the good news!

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Do'nt give up yet, it's going to have a full season. go to www.summer-glau.net for the good news!

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Wow! Then I hope they take this reprieve as a godsent, and will clean up their act! :) All-in-all, I rather see this end well, than all involved having to bite the dust (that's not good for anyone's career).

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Do'nt give up yet, it's going to have a full season. go to www.summer-glau.net for the good news!

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Wow! Then I hope they take this reprieve as a godsent, and will clean up their act! :) All-in-all, I rather see this end well, than all involved having to bite the dust (that's not good for anyone's career).

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Wow! Then I hope they take this reprieve as a godsent, and will clean up their act! :) All-in-all, I rather see this end well, than all involved having to bite the dust (that's not good for anyone's career).

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I agree, but do'nt think the story will end well, I'm expecting a very sad end. If I'm wrong, oh well.

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Wow! Then I hope they take this reprieve as a godsent, and will clean up their act! :) All-in-all, I rather see this end well, than all involved having to bite the dust (that's not good for anyone's career).

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I agree, but do'nt think the story will end well, I'm expecting a very sad end. If I'm wrong, oh well.

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Let's just say I'm sanguine about it. :) Sanguine, 'hopeful'. Plus, point of interest, it also means 'bloody'. That covers all our options, don't it? :)


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