Sign Up | Log In
OTHER SCIENCE FICTION SERIES
LOST Finale
Saturday, May 22, 2010 3:37 PM
CLJOHNSTON108
Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:25 AM
WHOZIT
Sunday, May 23, 2010 7:18 AM
LWAVES
Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:30 PM
Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:57 PM
OPPYH
Monday, May 24, 2010 3:01 AM
CORNCOBB
Select to view spoiler:
Monday, May 24, 2010 3:42 AM
ZEEK
Monday, May 24, 2010 3:50 AM
Monday, May 24, 2010 5:05 AM
Monday, May 24, 2010 5:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by lwaves: I think given time and another viewiing of this last season I could answer most of the questions I have to my satisfaction.
Monday, May 24, 2010 6:34 AM
TWO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, May 24, 2010 6:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by cljohnston108: Since I don't have a TV, I'm waiting for a decent torrent to show up. Now I'm wondering if it's even worth the effort.
Monday, May 24, 2010 7:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: Quote:Originally posted by lwaves: I think given time and another viewiing of this last season I could answer most of the questions I have to my satisfaction. Really? I mean you either have a very small list of obviously questions or you're delusional IMO. There is just way too much left open that we don't have enough evidence to answer. You can make stuff up for it, but there's no way to really figure it out. For instance how did Eloise Hawking know to meet Desmond in the jewelery store? From what we can tell her future knowledge all came from Daniel's notebook. Desmond never discussed that event with Daniel so it should not have been in his notebook. There is also the issue of how she knew the man in the red shoes would be killed. How could that have made it in Daniel's notebook? There just isn't any evidence to figure out what was going on. Lost is full of mysteries like that. I think it's pretty safe to say there's no answer because the writers don't have an answer. They wanted to make that scene to move other plot points along. If they needed a flying dishwasher to move something along then there would be a flying dishwasher with not explanation of where it came from. Shoddy writing IMO.
Monday, May 24, 2010 8:06 AM
Monday, May 24, 2010 10:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: I just think you're wrong that there ARE answers. I don't think the writers even bothered thinking of how to explain the things that were happening. How about Jack's Dad appearing to him in the lobby of his building when he was off the island. If smokey's whole deal was getting off the island then surely he couldn't have been off the island appearing to Jack. I have this theory: the writers hadn't decided what the point was yet. They came up with smokey wanting to get off the island in the last season. I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary yet.
Monday, May 24, 2010 1:13 PM
BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN
Quote:Originally posted by Corncobb: The Lost Finale was abysmal.
Monday, May 24, 2010 8:46 PM
Monday, May 24, 2010 10:05 PM
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman: But the terrible storytelling that was Lost runs far deeper than the finale. The moment the show jumped the shark was when the 2nd season opened. ....the jumbled mess of Lost.... By the time season 2 ended I was smelling a storytelling stink. By Season 3 I knew that they were shooting from the hip.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by lwaves: IMO if you go into a show like this wanting every point answered clearly with evidence then you were watching the wrong show.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:21 AM
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:38 AM
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:46 AM
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: Quote:Originally posted by lwaves: IMO if you go into a show like this wanting every point answered clearly with evidence then you were watching the wrong show. I never said that.
Quote: There is just way too much left open that we don't have enough evidence to answer. There just isn't any evidence to figure out what was going on I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary yet.
Quote: That's a dismissive statement and ignoring the issue that there were no answers. Not that they weren't given. That they just don't exist.
Quote: I'm saying in the writing meetings they never bothered to come up with a answer for like 80% of the stuff they threw at the screen. That is not deep and complex writing. The writers introduced things to the story with no resolution in mind. I think that's pretty much a fact at this point. That is a cheat to the viewer.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:50 AM
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:56 AM
BROWNCOAT1
May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
Quote:Originally posted by cljohnston108: There sits the remains of Oceanic 815, undisturbed by human hands, because there were no survivors.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: There's no evidence to back up that Eloise was special. We did see that she acquired Daniel's notebook when she killed him. That was evidence of where her future knowledge came from. It just doesn't support everything she did. I can't disprove something that was never shown. It's not good storytelling if that's the "answer" though.
Quote: As for Christian I can't remember Jack's state at the time. I don't think he was nearly as inebriated as he was in the first flash forward. The other thing to note was that he was drawn to the lobby by a smoke detector. That pretty heavily implies that it was the smoke monster. Which also implies they hadn't come up with the story of him wanting to leave the island. Which once again supports poor storytelling.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BrownCoat1: Quote:Originally posted by cljohnston108: There sits the remains of Oceanic 815, undisturbed by human hands, because there were no survivors. I thought about that, but why would Jack's father tell him that some present in the "church" had died before him and some "long after him" if they had all actually died in the crash? My thoughts are that the island and everything that happened on it was real.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by lwaves: So no hard feelings, we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm genuinely sorry you feel this way about the show. Hopefully you can find something else to fill it's void that is more satisfying.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:13 PM
ECGORDON
There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.
Quote:ABC sets the record straight about the series finale's plane crash images "You know those Oceanic 815 plane crash images that ran after Jack's (Matthew Fox) eye closed and the "Lost" logo appeared on our TV screens? Some "Lost" fans and TV critics have wondered if they were a last Easter egg from the producers, a clue meant to lead us to conclude that no one survived Oceanic 815's crash landing — and therefore everything we've seen over the last six years never really happened. Well, ABC wants to clear the air: Those photographs were not part of the "Lost" story at all. The network added them to soften the transition from the moving ending of the series to the 11 p.m. news and never considered that it would confuse viewers about the actual ending of the show. The images shown during the end credits of the 'Lost' finale, which included shots of Oceanic 815 on a deserted beach, were not part of the final story but were a visual aid to allow the viewer to decompress before heading into the news," an ABC spokesperson wrote in an e-mail Tuesday. That means, Losties, that we were not supposed to think that Christian Shepherd (John Terry) is a liar. What Christian told his son, when they were reunited at the church, should serve as guidance for our interpretation of the series' ending.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:35 PM
Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:15 AM
Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: awww I liked that theory. If it was all purgatory then it makes sense for things to never get resolved. It's like a dream things happen without them necessarily making any sense in a dream.
CHRISISALL
YOUR OPTIONS
NEW POSTS TODAY
OTHER TOPICS
FFF.NET SOCIAL