Fringe - looks pretty good. by AURaptor

Joshua Jackson was well-thought-of locally while he worked on 'the Creek'...

I never met him , but I did get to meet Katie Holmes several times , and I liked her , a lot...

She was very shy , modest , and seemed well-grounded...

The production company would sell off excess wardrobe items on occasion , and I bought stuff that was intended for VanDerBeek and Jackson , not because of the show , but because it was new clothing at prices below wholesale !

They had screen-used stuff , too , but it didn't interest me ; I preferred to get the new items and let the teenyboppers go ga-ga over the other bits...

Anyway , 'Pacey' did a film called 'The Skulls' , which was pretty danged good...

He also once rescued a girl from a fast-moving current , near a jetty that bordered an inlet , at a local beach , and became a bit more of a local hero for his effort...

I'm very much looking forward to 'Fringe' ; despite Abrams' imprimatur it seems very 'Joss' and Chris Carter , judging from the reviews and trailers...Not a bad combination...

Besides , the female lead seems quite fresh and hot...

I hope it lasts a good while , and have the same sort of hopes for Dollhouse...

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Monday, September 8, 2008 4:43 PM

They are playing it up like X-File and it does look like it. But the adds will play that up and seeing the first episode should be interesting. Cross your fingers and hope for the best.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 4:39 AM

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The show itself is from JJ Abrams so I guess a lot of people will be expecting something decent from it as the guy is on a roll at the moment. That would be my main reason for watching. If his name wasn't involved then I would probably wait until I read what people were saying about it.

I have the exact opposite reaction. I'm not going to watch because of how bad Alias and Lost were/are. They lay down the ground work for some really cool stuff but they never deliver. It's like J.J. needs to have a real writer follow him around and work with him on the explanations for his mysteries. Cause he's good at setting them up but not on explaining what was really going on.

So, I'm not going to watch this one. I don't need another long investment in a disappointing series.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 4:12 PM

CYBERSNARK

Well, if they were aiming for X-Files, they hit it, IMHO. Beautifully done, with just the right deadpan humour to punctuate without overpowering.

And Chief the Spongebob-watching cow stole the show.

I'd call it a success; I'm officially interested in seeing more.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 4:25 PM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Well, if they were aiming for X-Files, they hit it, IMHO. Beautifully done, with just the right deadpan humour to punctuate without overpowering.

And Chief the Spongebob-watching cow stole the show.

I'd call it a success; I'm officially interested in seeing more.

Ditto...Stylish and cool...The 'SpongeBob' sequence was terrific !

Plus...Anna Torv...Schwing !...Coolest TV blonde since Kathryn Morris hit 'Cold Case' !

This pilot got me hooked !

Encore on Sunday ! New episode Tuesday !

Bodes well for 'Dollhouse' ; and the subversive resurrection of 'Firefly'...

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 4:56 PM

REDLAVA

Yeah it was pretty interesting. Combo between the major faceless corporate entity of Lost and the bizarre see it to believe it weirdness of the X-files. I'll keep watching.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:51 PM

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Yeah it was pretty interesting. Combo between the major faceless corporate entity of Lost and the bizarre see it to believe it weirdness of the X-files. I'll keep watching.

Yes , that M.D. company was VERY 'BlueSun' , wasn't it ?

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 1:10 AM

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Originally posted by lwaves:
The show itself is from JJ Abrams so I guess a lot of people will be expecting something decent from it as the guy is on a roll at the moment. That would be my main reason for watching. If his name wasn't involved then I would probably wait until I read what people were saying about it.

I have the exact opposite reaction. I'm not going to watch because of how bad Alias and Lost were/are. They lay down the ground work for some really cool stuff but they never deliver. It's like J.J. needs to have a real writer follow him around and work with him on the explanations for his mysteries. Cause he's good at setting them up but not on explaining what was really going on.

So, I'm not going to watch this one. I don't need another long investment in a disappointing series.

I'm with you there. I never watched Alias. But I have no interest in the show after Lost.

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Monday, September 29, 2008 3:32 AM

PATSRULE

Everybody that is complaining about Lost doesn't really understand how Lost works. Although J.J. Abrahms was part of the original creation of the story, he does not write the show on a weekly basis. His only involvement in the last couple of years was after the scripts are written they get sent to him, he reads them, and says 'Great', and they move on. He hasn't really been part of the creative vision of the show for several years.

Alias was a different story...

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:26 PM

Fringe tonight.

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Sunday, November 9, 2008 2:45 PM

Hey. Just wanted to bump this thread up for when FRINGE comes back on on Tuesday. I can't believe it's been off for two weeks now.

Of the new shows that are on, I've really come to like and enjoy FRINGE a lot, right next to TRUE BLOOD. I tried THE MENTALIST and THE ELEVENTH HOUR, but they're too much like every other CBS procedural to really capture my interest. But FRINGE takes the whole X-FILES model and really makes it its own. And I've been catching up on THE X-FILES recently, and it's interesting to see how much each show reflects it's time. Like how with THE X-FILES, it was all about fear of the government, whereas in FRINGE the government has its hands tied because of a corporation. I imagine if THE X-FILES were on air today, Smoking Man would be a corporate hit man rather than a government spook.

But the thing that's REALLY getting me excited for FRINGE is the dynamic between Peter and Walter Bishop. I've said many times that it really pisses me off to see daddy issues on so many genre shows. Joss is a big proponent of this, and you can also see it on LOST where a lot of characters whine about how they had crappy fathers and that father figures are more villainous than the villains they're fighting.

Which is why it's such a breath of fresh air to see Walter as both a brilliant and insane scientist who at any moment could cut you down, but at the same time a very scared and childlike man. And that Peter is highly reluctant in dealing with this man who has caused so much pain, but slowly comes around to willing to help Walter with his illness and to deal with their relationship. I suppose a lot of people who have parents who are dealing with Altzheimer's could identify with this dynamic.

The Pattern, the accelerated pregnancy and the exploding heads may be icing on the cake. But it's this relation ship that keeps me coming back for more.

Anyone else digging the Walter/Peter plotline? And who else thinks Astrid should get her own episode soon?

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Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:27 PM

I can say for certain I am hooked on Fringe. Not just good writing, but every character gets full treatment. I really enjoy Walter. Showed a lot of courage last night. Wakter and Peter are beginning to understand each other. Fainally a show I like that looks like it will last more then one season.

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Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:28 AM

NE0VEN0M

I followed it until the break a few weeks back and haven't caught the 2 previous episodes. My initial passion for it just faded away. It just seemed like the same old thing over and over. There wasn't enough progression of the main story arch. If I get really bored, I might give it another chance and catch it online.

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Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:03 PM

WHOZIT

Last week it rated #18 with the 18-49 demo.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

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Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:30 PM

Well I'm 56 and I rate it #1.

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Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:49 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

I've watched this show from the beginning and it seems to be getting better with each episode. I'm also really digging the show's dynamic between Peter and Walter.

Also the whole thing between Olivia and her creepy boss, Blair Brown's character. Good fun!

Also I'm starting to get annoyed with the whole symbols thing. You know after each break. Other than that, it's a really good show.

Shiny! Let's be bad guys!

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Monday, November 24, 2008 10:23 AM

I actually love the symbols and seeing the different images buried within them. They recently added a new one that's like a puff of smoke. They only showed it the once, so I'd like to see it again to see the buried image within.

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Monday, November 24, 2008 11:00 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Well I found it pretty straight forward and pedestrian to start with as it felt like a jacked-up X-Files, but I must admit it's really starting to intrigue me now. In particular with some of the secondary characters/victims that allude to a more ordered and sinister agenda. Those symbols are great, so J.J. Abrams! Similar to the Darmha symbols on LOST.

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Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1:28 PM

Got to admit, I did not see that coming in the last episode. They are going to be working overtime to deal with this new twist. Get Walter all the chewing gum he wants.

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Saturday, December 6, 2008 11:49 PM

AMDOBELL

I love "Fringe". Having met John Noble a couple of years ago after he played Denethor in the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy of films I was intrigued to see how the new series would shape up and am delighted with the story set up, the excellent casting and the slowly developing relationship issues and themes. I don't see it being very "X-Files" at all, in that there are no aliens and spaceships though there does seem to be a central conspiracy with Massive Dynamics incorporating all the shadowy misdirection of the Cigarette Smoking Man. I think John Noble is brilliant as Walter and I love that even while he fascinates me I am filled with conflicting emotions like sympathy, horror and humour to name just a few.

The relationship between Walter and Peter is fascinating, often awkward and almost painful. I worry about what things Walter did to his son (besides electrocuting him as a child) and what else lies buried that will slowly come to light perhaps to haunt them. I like that even though Peter could have turned his back on his father at the outset he reluctantly goes along with helping, even though it puts himself at risk to do so. As if the answers he really needs are not to the Pattern but to his relationship with his father. A lost boy still wanting to come home. And Olivia has her own baggage. Astrid is also a good character and her often dry delivery is just another flavour in a beautiful mix. I am happy to say I am hooked on "Fringe". Great show!

Ali D :~)
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Sunday, December 7, 2008 7:03 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I'm beginning the think the purpose of The Pattern was to get Walter Bishop out of the mental institution. Every freakin' thing they've come up against has been tied to experiments he was doing twenty years ago.

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Sunday, December 7, 2008 10:01 AM

AMDOBELL

Don't forget that Walter knew Nina Sharp back then too, so coincidence? I don't think so.

Ali D :~)
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Tuesday, December 9, 2008 6:16 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Saw the premier, and it looked way watchable. Total babe fest w/ the 2 chicks.

Oh, and next week? Badger!! Wooo hooo!

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Friday, December 12, 2008 8:15 PM

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Saw the premier, and it looked way watchable. Total babe fest w/ the 2 chicks.

Anna Torv is completely fascinating to watch...

Smart chicks are a total turn-on anyway , but in addition to that , she's very emotive , thoughtful , and fun-to-watch...

I need an Anna Torv fix every week...

I know she's from Oz , with that gorram-sexy accent (REE-OW !) , but I figure Torv is a name of Northern European origin , perhaps from Scan-Dan-Avia...Maybe Swedish , Danish , or Finnish...

No denying the athletic , durable good looks...

Watching Anna Torv could never get old...

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Friday, December 12, 2008 11:12 PM

Great photos out2theblack. I am happy to see this thread active. This a great show and I am hoping the word gets out to watch it.

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Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:44 PM

Hey All

Just wanted to bump this thread up again, since FRINGE came back last night. Really good episode that, in Walters words, was rather tense.

But there was a great opportunity for some really funny humor that the writer's missed. When Olivia's in the hospital and the bald guy that she took down for sexual harrasment is telling her about the Fringe Division and the people that are members of it are liabilities. He gives her the riot act, mentions Peter and Walter's past (probably as exposition for the people tuning in for the first time who missed the first ten episodes), but forgets to mention Astrid.

I just thought it would have been so funny for him to say "And Astrid Farnsworth. I don't know who the Hell she is but I bet she's a liability to the bureau." And word gets back to her and she goes "Oh no, don't lump me in with you guys. I'm just an assistant waiting for my own episode." Kind of like in THE SIMPSONS when after the hurricane that destroys Ned Flanders' house and he finally snaps and rants against all the people in town, he goes up to Lenny and says "You, I don't know who the Hell you are, but I'm pretty sure you've pissed me off." And then Lenny goes "Hey, I just got here. What's going on?"

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Wednesday, January 21, 2009 2:19 PM

Hello Reginalroadie:

Interesting Fringe last night. Reminded me a little of Terminator with the fight and the gun play. I like how this show mixes these elements together. We have Walter working in the lab and doing funny mind games with his son and tonight we have shootouts at the OK Corral.

And thanks for bumping this thread. I almost forgot about it.

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:35 AM

DREAMTROVE

Okay, I watched one Fringe, with the brain stealing serial killer. It didn't grab me. I lacked a care about the principle characters, and the story, catch the serial killer, was very tired. The science was terrible, but that's to be expected. The megacorporation and govt. agency project are getting very tired.

I guess the main hinge is that the detectives are the storytellers in a mystery, and they have to in themselves be interesting. About this new crew, Mulder and Scully they weren't. Maybe I saw a bum ep. any thoughts?

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:53 PM

Hello Dreamtrove:

Most of the information on the show and its characters you can get from Wikipedia, But I find there is questionalble reasons for Walter's confinement in a mental hospital. Also there are strained relations between Walter and his son, Peter. Olivia, the FBI agent, also has personal motives for her actions. Her partner, also love interest, appears to have been involved in illegal activities concerning the case they were working on. So we are invited in to the personal lives of these people. They are not just agents given a case. Walter is a major scientist who worked on top secret projects that match the strange occurances in the original case, So Olivia wanted him to help her with this case. That brought in the son who had to become his father's caretaker.

Seeing one episode in the middle of the series is probably going to bring up more questions then answers. If you want, go to FOX.com and watch some of the past episodes that are available and continue then watch the series as it continues. You may find the motivation that drives these people and keeps them together. There are times when the Peter wants to walk out because of his years of anger he has toward his father. In one episode a fellow patient in the same hospital Walter serving in may have a clue to a case they are working on. Walter has to return to the hospital because the patient would respond to him as a friend better then having an outsider question him. This is hard on Walter. He has to face the fear of entering an institution that kept him locked up and medicated for years. Passing through the doors and entering the place that damaged his life is a very courageous step for Walter. His purpose was to do lab work for the Olivia, not do investigations. But by this episode these people have become a team and Walter takes one for the team.

I can't make you like this show. This is personal decision. If you don't see any merit in it then who can say you are wrong. We each have our own taste.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 3:15 AM

Well said, traveler. And the episode you bring up is one of my favorite Walter episodes. Usually Walter is far more interested in the scientific aspect of the cases, but in that episode the fact that there was a missing boy involved must have triggered his paternal side so much that he was willing to go back into his own personal lion's den to try to save this child's life.

And I loved the post-credit's scene with Olivia and her sister/niece. It continues the theme of family in the series in that you not only have Walter and Peter trying to fix their relationship, but Olivia being able to separate her work from her personal life and just be able to hang with her sister and niece and play Operation and make pancakes and listen to Beyonce (although that "Single Ladies" song kinda distracts me because every time I hear it because I imagine the SNL sketch with Andy Samberg, the heavyset dude and JT dancing in unitards). And her work life crashing in one her personal life feels like a huge violation, thus fueling her drive to catch this particular guy.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:23 PM

Hey Traveler

Tonight's FRINGE was just as good as ever. The opening sequence on the plane has to be one of the creepier Pattern events so far. Just seeing those spines grow out of his back and then seeing that porcupine man burst out of the bathroom for a brief moment and then credits just scared the Hell out of me. And for once, I actually saw The Observer. The last two episodes I couldn't spot him, but this time he passed the guy before he went into the bathroom.

When you saw the plane crash, did you notice the tiny thing eject from the plane before it went down? What do you think that was?

As for the ep itself, it really showed a darker side to Olivia in that she was willing to let a suspect transform into a monster in order to get more info. And I liked that Peter got involved with the sting operation.

What did you think of it?

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 5:08 AM

CYBERSNARK

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And for once, I actually saw The Observer. The last two episodes I couldn't spot him, but this time he passed the guy before he went into the bathroom.

When you saw the plane crash, did you notice the tiny thing eject from the plane before it went down? What do you think that was?

I think you just answered your own question. The Observer wasn't among the dead bodies in the plane wreck.

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 7:50 AM

See, I don't think it was The Observer. He's not the "traditional mode of transportation" kind of guy. And the porcupine monster was among the dead, not miles away from the crash.

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:04 AM

The ending reminded me of Doctor Who saying good-by to Rose. It seems such a good show, that I can not believe it can get better. But I think they becoming a team and that works well for the show. That they had to find a way to trust each other. Each taking risks. Even Astrid is getting more involved. How she deals with Walter, I don't know. He has knocked her out in one episode. She seems to have forgiven him.

I am still out on Massive Dynamics. I am expecting to see some mysterious man smoking a cigerette.

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:24 AM

MAGHAFFAR

Anybody catch the name of last weeks episode writer?

None other than Zack Whedon (along with someone else).

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:14 AM

Yeah, I'm still not sure about MD as well. All signs point to them, and yet in this ep it seems like there's a third party involved.

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