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Favorite Book into Film, Not Yet Done?

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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:07 PM

INDIGO


In light of the "What Movie or TV ep. Have You Seen a Ridiculous Number of Times" thread (oh gods, I'm running out of things to talk about that I don't have to stick my fingers in my ears and say, "La, la, la, I don't hear you spoilers!")... what book/s would you like to see made into film -- that haven't been yet -- and any cast, writer, cinematographer wishes?

I'll submit my list soon

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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:15 PM

EVILMIKE


Just off the top of my head...

Ringworld by Larry Niven
Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke

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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:16 PM

CALLMESERENITY


Memory, Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams. It's a trilogy (in 4 volumes),it's FANTASTIC and would make a great LoTR-esque film (or trilogy of films.) My brother and I discussed this, with Rupert Grint as Simon, the main character. We think he'd be a perfect Simon. But the only problem is that they'd have to start making the movies a year ago for it to work, before RG gets too old and whatnot.

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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:20 PM

ECGORDON

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My favorite author is Robert Heinlein, and his best novel is The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. I really hope that Tim Minear's screenplay is produced, and wouldn't it be great if Tim got a chance to direct? However, I do not think that is likely, but I can't think of anyone else I would recommend to direct it. I do think Alan Tudyk could do a remarkable job as Manny.

I would also dearly love to see Terry Gilliam adapt Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination.




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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:53 PM

CYBERSNARK


Peter David's Sir Apropos of Nothing would make a fine movie, though I'm worried that they'd have to cut out so much funny stuff (it's all funny stuff). The Woad to Wuin (the sequel) would also be entertaining. Haven't been able to find/read Tong-Lashing yet, but I'm confident in David's writing.

And of course, Matthew Stover's novel of Revenge of the Sith is what the movie should've been, as a bare minimum. It was half-decent ("good" is far beyond what that particular script was capable of without completely rewriting the last act).

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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:50 PM

RICKKER


well David Webber's Honor Harington series.
Dragonlace Chronicles
Any of the RA Salvatore novels
Any of the Michael Stackpole novels
this is the short list

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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:36 PM

BLUEHANDTWOBYTWO


I really fell for "LOVELY BONES" by Alice Sebold and "THE CURIOUS INCIDENT OF THE DOG IN THE NIGHTTIME" by Mark Haddon. Both, I feel, would be unfilmable, as they are primarily narrator-driven pieces and the movies would have to rely too heavily on "Voice overs". I'm really surprised that Hollywood hasn't tapped further into the "Dean Koontz" and "Chuck -Fight Club- Palahniuk" pools for movie projects. Koontz's "ODD THOMAS" was a cool book, kinda like what would happen to the little boy in "THE SIXTH SENSE" if he grew up..(the narrator is 20-ish). Augustin Burroughs' "Running with Scissors" was an incredible memoir, but they've already turned it into a movie which will probably be released in the fall. I finished Chuck Palahniuk's "HAUNTED" which was deliciously sick and twisted, and am half-way through his book, "SURVIVOR" which I am also enjoying very much. (I'm on a 'chuck' kick because I just got to meet him last weekend and now have a signed copy of all his books! LOL)Any of the above books are a good read! Enjoy~!
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Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:31 AM

CHRISISALL


I Am Legend, by Richard Matheson.
It got made into movies twice (most recently Omega Man) and they missed the point both times.
John Carpenter or George Romero, please do it!!

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:06 AM

INDIGO


I'm afraid that the books that I would be most intrigued to see in film could be fairly difficult to script. Figures.

The Dream at the End of the World: Paul Bowles and the Literary Renegades in Tangier.
- This was the most amazing multi-person biography I've ever read. Key players were P. Bowles (The Sheltering Sky), Truman Capote, Allen Ginsberg, William Burroughs... all down in Morrocco. Awesome. I read it while travelling around Greece one summer and holed up in an old castle during the begining of autumn storms on Naxos Island.

Foucault's Pendulum, by Umberto Eco (Name of the Rose).
- Other than some of Neal Stephenson's books, this is one of the most densely fascinating and finely crafted tales out there. An intellectual adventure story. I see Kevin Spacey in one of the roles.

Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephanson.
- "...Imagine Tom Clancy mated with William Gibson, with James Michener acting as midwife..." Seattle Times. Spies, codes, gold, pirates...

The Shadow of the Torturer by Gene Wolfe.
- "...the tale of young Severian, an apprentice to the Guild of Torturers on the world called Urth, exiled for committing the ultimate sin of his profession--showing mercy toward his victim."

Lavondyss, Mythago Wood, and the Bone Forest by Robert Holdstock.
- Mmm, yummy, frightening, intelligent fantasy.

The Snow Queen, and the Summer Queen by Joan Vinge.


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Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:06 AM

ODDNESS2HER


I think Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern series would make a good movie (or series of movies).

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:19 AM

FERREL


Startide Rising - David Brin
Doomsday Book - Connie Willis

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:23 AM

SICKDUDE


"The Invincible", by Stanislaw Lem. It's a hard enough book to find since it hasn't been released in a while. But I always thought it'd be great as a movie.

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:34 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Notre Dame by Victor Hugo.
Although there are two versions of this book, and a Disney animated
movie, none of them have stuck to the real tragedy of the original
story. Plus none of them explored 'Notre Dame' Cathedral as a
character. So I'd love to see this made into a film. When I was
younger and dreaming of being a director this was my pet project, I
even started doodling a graphic novel of it. So this is very much top
of my list of Books into films.
In terms of cast and crew :
Director: Tim Burton
Music: Danny Elfman
Cinematographer: Stephan Czapsky
Adaptation: Richard Gravanese(sp) (He wrote Fisher King)
Cast:
Quasimodo - Ron Perlman
Frodo - Gerard Depardieu
Phoebus - Jude Law
Esmeralda - Morena Bacarin or Lenor Varela

That'd be my first choice, my second would be Don Quixote also
known as the unfilmable book, as I'm sure poor Terry Gilliam would
agree with.
No one seems to have been able to adapt this book by Cervantez. It is
a difficult character, but I reckon it's possible these days.
Director : Jean Jeunet
Music : John Williams
Cinematography :Vittorio Storaro
Adaptation: Richard Gravanese

Cast:
Don Quixote :Antonio Banderas
Pancho : Dominique Pinon (From Delicatessen)

Also I'd love a TV show adaptation to:
One Hundred Years of Solitude. I think this would work better than a film as it is such a layered book it would need the proper time to develop all the characters, and TV could certainly do this.

Lastly a concise TV show about :
On Thousand and one Nights. With a new cast and crew every week. Telling these great fantasy tales. Some great directors could have a go at directing a show every week. That'd be fun.

Those are my choices for now. :)

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:47 AM

GUNRUNNER


'Nimitz Class' by Patrick Robinson, one of the best Naval-Techno Thriller-Mystery novels I've read. Also the sequel ‘HMS Unseen’ disserves to be made in to a film. Too bad Robinson slowly turned in a bigoted, liberal bashing (military bashing too?!?) Tom Clancy.

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:15 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Notre Dame by Victor Hugo.
Although there are two versions of this book, and a Disney animated
movie, none of them have stuck to the real tragedy of the original
story. Plus none of them explored 'Notre Dame' Cathedral as a
character. So I'd love to see this made into a film. When I was
younger and dreaming of being a director this was my pet project, I
even started doodling a graphic novel of it. So this is very much top
of my list of Books into films.


That'd be my first choice, my second would be Don Quixote also
known as the unfilmable book, as I'm sure poor Terry Gilliam would
agree with.
No one seems to have been able to adapt this book by Cervantez. It is
a difficult character, but I reckon it's possible these days.




I second! btw, I'd love to see a Notre Dame graphic novel.

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:04 AM

JADEHAND


Well, These would take more than one movie:

Raymond E. Feist's (Rift war saga) at least. followed by the 2 in between books and then the Serpent war saga. Great series, 10 books.

L. Ron Hubbard's Mission Earth (another 10 book series) Very funny. But keep those scientology freaks away from it. Silly actors, haven't heard he made the whole thing up on a bet, and it's all psychology with a few words changed.

But since those are unlikely, I'd Love to see Neil Gaiman/Terry Pratchet's GOOD OMENS: the nice and accurate prophecies of Agnes Nutter, witch. I think It'd make a great movie.

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:08 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
I second! btw, I'd love to see a Notre Dame graphic novel.



Cool. Nice to see we agree on books too twg!
:)
...One day I hope to return to the idea of the graphic novel. It'd mean a change in drawing style but I think it'd be fun to return to pencil and ink, and a more sketchy style, and get away from the fussy thing I've got going at the moment.

.....one day.... maybe.....

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:06 AM

CRIMSONSTAR


Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson

Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

I heard a rumor that Ender's Game was being made a while back, but I haven't heard anything about it going into production.

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:06 PM

FIREFLYWILDCARD1


Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern would make an excellent series of movies, or maybe HBO miniseries.

Sword of Shadows by J.V. Jones would make a good fantasy trilogy. I love this trilogy (although we haven't gotten the 3rd book yet). The first two books are awesome. And I'm hoping that the 3rd comes out this year.

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:30 PM

FOURTHTROIKA


Well, it's not quite my favorite book, but I'd like to see someone do a properversion of The Food of the Gods by H.G.Wells. It's one of his lesser known works. Bert I. Gordon filmed a "portion" of the book in 1976. But I'd like to see the whole book covered. With the big budget versions of his stories coming out in recent years (War of the Worlds, The Time Machine), who knows?

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Saturday, July 2, 2005 3:49 PM

AOMAN14


One of my favorite series is the Dark Tower by Stephen King. On one hand, I'd love to see it as a movie. BUT, I dunno if Hollywood could pull it off.

The current series I'm reading is The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan. Its a 12 book series that I'm really enjoying. Time moves slow and lots of plots going on but it keeps it interesting.

I'm not sure who would star or direct these movies but it would be fun to see if they could be done

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Saturday, July 2, 2005 4:59 PM

BATMARLOWE


GLADIATOR by Philip Wylie.

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Saturday, July 2, 2005 5:41 PM

AIRYLLI


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Notre Dame by Victor Hugo.
Although there are two versions of this book, and a Disney animated
movie, none of them have stuck to the real tragedy of the original
story. Plus none of them explored 'Notre Dame' Cathedral as a
character. So I'd love to see this made into a film. When I was
younger and dreaming of being a director this was my pet project, I
even started doodling a graphic novel of it. So this is very much top
of my list of Books into films.
In terms of cast and crew :
Director: Tim Burton
Music: Danny Elfman
Cinematographer: Stephan Czapsky
Adaptation: Richard Gravanese(sp) (He wrote Fisher King)
Cast:
Quasimodo - Ron Perlman
Frodo - Gerard Depardieu
Phoebus - Jude Law
Esmeralda - Morena Bacarin or Lenor Varela

...

Lastly a concise TV show about :
On Thousand and one Nights. With a new cast and crew every week. Telling these great fantasy tales. Some great directors could have a go at directing a show every week. That'd be fun.

Those are my choices for now. :)

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i third the notre dame de paris nomination! one of my very favorite books of all time. the disney version is fun in its own right, but when lined up with the movie..well..you can't. who's brilliant idea was it to make a disney movie out of that kind of tragedy, anyway?

have you seen the musical notre dame de paris? i didn't see the english version (which i heard was pretty bad) but the french version was frelling brilliant. i think up to date it is the best adaptation of that book (although i haven't seen the early 20s/30s films).

i'd been searching for an esmeralda forever and then i saw firefly and was like damn, here she is. morena baccarin would be absolutely perfect. to quote joss: "hmm..where am i going to find an olive-skinned beauty (ahemmorenaahem)?" i think summer glau would also be brilliant, especially with her dancing skills. actually, now that i'm think about it, i think i like the idea of summer even better..esmeralda was so free and innocent in the beginning.

i know nothing at all about directors so i couldn't tell you anything, but i think joss would do great with the tragedy/comedy aspect. well, not so much comedy per se, but there is a lot of humor in nddp.

gonna have to research casting a bit...i haven't thought the other characters out so much yet. who would be gringoire? easily my favorite character...casting is crucial. but for frollo, i think daneil lavoie or michel pascal would be really great. and garou for quasimodo. but then, i'm really partial to the musical casts. in fact, put richard charest and patrick fiori in there somewhere as gringoire and phoebus.

i absolute love your 1001 nights idea. i think that would be so much fun, if done correctly.

my other favorite books would be el alquimista by paulo coleho and the outsiders by s.e. hinton. i love the film version of the outsiders, although a new one would be beautiful as well. i could see james franco as dally, even though he isn't bleach blonde.

el alquimista (or the alchemist) is apparently going to be made in reality, but i haven't heard any solid plans on it yet, so i don't really know. the only thing about alquimista would be that it would seem to be actually a very slow film, since it's all about this one boy whose name is referred to about once in the entire book. some young, olive-skinned, talented (and preferably pretty) boy, a newcomer...any ideas?

wow. that was long. i apologize. i have some kind of odd attachment to notre dame de paris. i think i'll post more later .

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Saturday, July 2, 2005 6:48 PM

PERFESSERGEE


There have been many great suggestions on this thread, but here's a couple that haven't been seen yet:

Dan Simmons' Hyperion Cantos series (Hyperion, The Fall of Hyperion, Endymion and The Rise of Endymion). If you haven't read Simmons, by all means do; he's awesome.

Larry Niven's The Smoke Ring and The Integral Trees. (or any part of the Man'Kzin Wars system).

Stephen Stirling's Island in the Sea of Time series.

Well, that's more than a couple. Plus, I maintain that Dune has still not been done decently. A tough nut to crack, but surely some cinematographer could do it.

Oh, and I certainly second nominations above for the work of Heinlein, McCaffrey, and many others.

Lastly, I haven't yet seen the recent Wizard of Earthsea. Was it any good? I'm a longtime fan of Ursula LeGuin.

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Saturday, July 2, 2005 8:33 PM

ROCKETJOCK


Glory Road by Robert A. Heinlein. It starts as a war story, segues into a wonderfully witty sword-and-sorcery adventure, and finishes strong with a final third that's pure sociological Science Fiction. This is a film that I've kept casting and re-casting in my head for nearly thirty years.

Also, Laurel K. Hamilton's Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter series has massive untapped movie potential. My wife and I spend hours debating casting call for this one (So far Kevin Sorbo has the inside track for Richard).

H. Beam Piper's Lone Star Planet (AKA A Planet for Texans)could make a wonderful comedy. I see Jim Carrey as Ambassador Stephen Silk, an up-and-comer in the Terran Diplomatic Corps who finds himself assigned to the unalligned colony of New Texas, which has a rather... unique political system -- killing a practicing politician isn't considered a crime, except to the extent that the deceased polecat didn't deserve it. The trial of the killer becomes a de facto trial of the late politician's public record. Sounds like an idea whose time has come to me... Lots of room for timely satire here.

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 12:23 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by airylli:
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i third the notre dame de paris nomination! one of my very favorite books of all time. the disney version is fun in its own right, but when lined up with the movie..well..you can't. who's brilliant idea was it to make a disney movie out of that kind of tragedy, anyway?

In fairness to Disney all of the versions tend to end on a light note.

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have you seen the musical notre dame de paris? i didn't see the english version (which i heard was pretty bad) but the french version was frelling brilliant. i think up to date it is the best adaptation of that book (although i haven't seen the early 20s/30s films).


I haven't no, I have to admit the idea of a musical version doesn't appeal to me straight away, but then I could be swayed if it really is that good. I'm just not into musicals particularly. The early 20's film, which I saw when I was young I remember as being engaging but I've forgotten about the specifics, and I'm not sure how accurate to the book it was.

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i'd been searching for an esmeralda forever and then i saw firefly and was like damn, here she is.

Hey I thought that too!!! Although it crossed my mind that for the role she may now be too old. Esmeralda was supposed to be sixteen wasn't she? Or in her teens I think.... So it may require an entirely new face, but certainly I saw Morena and thought how pefect she is for Esmeralda.

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i think summer glau would also be brilliant, especially with her dancing skills. actually, now that i'm think about it, i think i like the idea of summer even better..esmeralda was so free and innocent in the beginning.


That's a fair point, her free spirit is in tune with Summer, and she would seem more like a person who would have a pet goat.

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i know nothing at all about directors so i couldn't tell you anything, but i think joss would do great with the tragedy/comedy aspect. well, not so much comedy per se, but there is a lot of humor in nddp.


You know I wondered about Joss and how he may interpret it, I'm not sure though... I think Burton is more in tune with the kind of character Quasimodo is, I mean look at Edward Scissorhands, he's not too far off the Quasimodo character. They're both handicapped, both loners, and both live in a gothic retreat... I'm sure Burton drew upon the great Gothic characters to find Edward Scissorhands so I think he's just there to start with.

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gonna have to research casting a bit...i haven't thought the other characters out so much yet. who would be gringoire?


Yeah I totally forgot about Gringoire. Hmmm Yeah I may have to come back to you on that one, I'll give it some thought. Wait actually now I think of it Dominique Pinon from Delicatessen, and Alien4 would be superb.

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easily my favorite character...casting is crucial. but for frollo, i think daneil lavoie or michel pascal would be really great. and garou for quasimodo. but then, i'm really partial to the musical casts. in fact, put richard charest and patrick fiori in there somewhere as gringoire and phoebus.


Sadly I don't know these guys. I wish I did as I'd love to see how you're visualising this. Oh and apologies for spelling Frodo, in my original post, too much Lord of the Rings these days! I mixed 'em up.

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i absolute love your 1001 nights idea. i think that would be so much fun, if done correctly.


Why thank you :) I'm often surprised that nobody in hollywood has tapped into these tales. I'd love to do these also.

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el alquimista (or the alchemist) is apparently going to be made in reality, but i haven't heard any solid plans on it yet, so i don't really know. the only thing about alquimista would be that it would seem to be actually a very slow film, since it's all about this one boy whose name is referred to about once in the entire book. some young, olive-skinned, talented (and preferably pretty) boy, a newcomer...any ideas?



Yeah read this a while back now, it didn't make a huge impression on me at first, but It would demand a different kind of consideration if filmed. As you say it's a slower paced book. It would need to be shot with great camera work because there's a great deal where little is happening and it's mostly in the desserts of north Africa so the imagery would need some work to keep the viewer engaged, still in terms of a young actor playing the part I'm not sure. You'd need a young unknown, but perhaps a young looking Willem Dafoe type person would work? What d'ya think?

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wow. that was long. i apologize. i have some kind of odd attachment to notre dame de paris. i think i'll post more later .


Hey no need to apologise I enjoyed every word you wrote. Plus I too have a strange attachment to Notre Dame. Why is that do you think? I know that everytime I got to Paris I have to go to Notre Dame and circle it taking photos, or drawing parts of the exterior?!?! I'm not sure why I do that, but I'm completely obsessed by it. The last time I went, which was in January, I ended up just sitting outside it for a couple of hours, trying to soak up the 'vibe' of the place as it may have been all those years ago.

Ok I should leave it there. Or else I could go on and on....

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 5:24 AM

AIRYLLI


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
In fairness to Disney all of the versions tend to end on a light note.



Haha yes, I guess they do. It's just so funny to see sometimes.

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I haven't no, I have to admit the idea of a musical version doesn't appeal to me straight away, but then I could be swayed if it really is that good. I'm just not into musicals particularly. The early 20's film, which I saw when I was young I remember as being engaging but I've forgotten about the specifics, and I'm not sure how accurate to the book it was.


I must admit, I'm the type that comes down favorably on the side of musicals. But only if they've got a crazy good story line and involve some type of tragedy...Mamma Mia!, for example, bored me to death. The thing about Notre-Dame de Paris, though, is that there isn't a single line of spoken dialogue. Everything is sung beautifully in French. I'd recommend listing to clips of the Original Cast Recording (I think they've got them on Amazon). For starters, "Les temps de cathédrales" and "Belle" are gorgeous songs in their own right. My personal favorite is "Lune", I think. But then you could end up hating it..a lot of my friends just look at me funny when I tell them how amazing it is .

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Hey I thought that too!!! Although it crossed my mind that for the role she may now be too old. Esmeralda was supposed to be sixteen wasn't she? Or in her teens I think.... So it may require an entirely new face, but certainly I saw Morena and thought how pefect she is for Esmeralda.


Cool, I'm not crazy! Or maybe we both are. Hee. Yeah, Morena's age is the only thing I had against her playing Esmeralda, and that's where I originally got the idea for Summer playing her instead. Although Morena has the absolute perfect look and "undefinable allure", she's not quite as carefree as Summer can be. Or maybe one day she'll do a part as Esmeralda and blow us all away. Who knows?

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That's a fair point, her free spirit is in tune with Summer, and she would seem more like a person who would have a pet goat.


Hahahaha. I think I'm going to have to go rewatch the cow scene in "Safe".

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You know I wondered about Joss and how he may interpret it, I'm not sure though... I think Burton is more in tune with the kind of character Quasimodo is, I mean look at Edward Scissorhands, he's not too far off the Quasimodo character. They're both handicapped, both loners, and both live in a gothic retreat... I'm sure Burton drew upon the great Gothic characters to find Edward Scissorhands so I think he's just there to start with.


You know, that's actually a really good point. I think Burton is great with the gothicism. The only thing I have with that is that a.) I'm afraid Burton will make it all wacky-like (not that I've got anything against wacky, but I don't know how that would play out with this material) and b.) I don't know how he would deal with the gothicism, whether he would actually put a focus on the cathedral, which would probably be a first, or whether he'd make all the human characters different. Man, I really want to see this film made now.

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Yeah I totally forgot about Gringoire. Hmmm Yeah I may have to come back to you on that one, I'll give it some thought. Wait actually now I think of it Dominique Pinon from Delicatessen, and Alien4 would be superb.


Hmm..I don't think I know him. The problem I have with coming up with good casting ideas is that I seem to be physically incapable of remembering people outside of what I'm currently watching/thinking about. So right now all I can see is the Firefly cast and, for some reason, the League of Extraordinary gentlemen (). Hee and I don't think either fit all that well, outside of a few select actresses.

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Sadly I don't know these guys. I wish I did as I'd love to see how you're visualising this. Oh and apologies for spelling Frodo, in my original post, too much Lord of the Rings these days! I mixed 'em up.


Hahaha no worries...the funny part is that I didn't even notice. Dammit, Frodo's taking over the world.

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Why thank you :) I'm often surprised that nobody in hollywood has tapped into these tales. I'd love to do these also.


You're welcome . I vaguely remember seeing a film a long while ago that was based on the tales and starred Dougray Scott...I think I kind of liked it, but it wasn't all that special. This definitely needs to be made, as well.

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Yeah read this a while back now, it didn't make a huge impression on me at first, but It would demand a different kind of consideration if filmed. As you say it's a slower paced book. It would need to be shot with great camera work because there's a great deal where little is happening and it's mostly in the desserts of north Africa so the imagery would need some work to keep the viewer engaged, still in terms of a young actor playing the part I'm not sure. You'd need a young unknown, but perhaps a young looking Willem Dafoe type person would work? What d'ya think?


But..Willem Dafoe is scary! Actually, the only thing I've seen him in was the English Patient and he was kinda creepy in that one. But I'm looking at Google pictures and damn, I can definitely see it. If he was way way younger and had slightly darker skin, he'd be perfect for Santiago.

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Hey no need to apologise I enjoyed every word you wrote. Plus I too have a strange attachment to Notre Dame. Why is that do you think? I know that everytime I got to Paris I have to go to Notre Dame and circle it taking photos, or drawing parts of the exterior?!?! I'm not sure why I do that, but I'm completely obsessed by it. The last time I went, which was in January, I ended up just sitting outside it for a couple of hours, trying to soak up the 'vibe' of the place as it may have been all those years ago.


Wow, I've finally found someone who loves Notre Dame de Paris as much as I do. I tell all my friends to read it and they're like "umm..but..it's long..and..I'll just go watch the Disney movie." I, too, absolutely love the cathedral..simply put, it's gorgeous. And also very different-looking, what with the squared tops and all. After reading Notre Dame de Paris, I wanted to explore every bit of the cathedral to see if I could find Frollo's little room thingy.

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 6:55 AM

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I must admit, I'm the type that comes down favorably on the side of musicals. But only if they've got a crazy good story line and involve some type of tragedy...Mamma Mia!, for example, bored me to death. The thing about Notre-Dame de Paris, though, is that there isn't a single line of spoken dialogue. Everything is sung beautifully in French. I'd recommend listing to clips of the Original Cast Recording (I think they've got them on Amazon). For starters, "Les temps de cathédrales" and "Belle" are gorgeous songs in their own right. My personal favorite is "Lune", I think. But then you could end up hating it..a lot of my friends just look at me funny when I tell them how amazing it is .

It is tricky with musicals isn't it? I usually find the wealth of music overwhelming, or strident. Plus I'm really fussy when it comes to music in general, so I'm often jarred by the 'style' equally as much as the tune itself. Funnily enough the only musical which I did like tends to be hated by everyone else and that is Absolute Beginners Have you seen it? Well none of my friends quite understand how I can hate musicals and yet like that one, and to be honest I have no idea either. Oh and Blues Brothers but that's slightly different... :)

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Cool, I'm not crazy! Or maybe we both are. Hee. Yeah, Morena's age is the only thing I had against her playing Esmeralda, and that's where I originally got the idea for Summer playing her instead. Although Morena has the absolute perfect look and "undefinable allure", she's not quite as carefree as Summer can be. Or maybe one day she'll do a part as Esmeralda and blow us all away. Who knows?


Yeah we could be crazy Still we're having fun with it so what's the harm. Morena as she is now is perhaps the closest I've seen who fits the description of Esmeralda - but if it were to be made, I think in all reality it would need someone considerably younger and more vulnerable looking. But for now, if I re-read Notre Dame of Paris, she'll be my Esmeralda.

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Hahahaha. I think I'm going to have to go rewatch the cow scene in "Safe".


I like that scene :) Cows are funny! Mind you so are goats! My parents used to have goats and they used to crack me up! You ever hear a goat sneeze? That's the funniset thing ever.... As they eat the tall grass, often it'd tickle there noses and make them sneeze and they look so perplexed as to what is happening to them that it's all the more hilarious! They were funny those goats.....

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You know, that's actually a really good point. I think Burton is great with the gothicism. The only thing I have with that is that a.) I'm afraid Burton will make it all wacky-like (not that I've got anything against wacky, but I don't know how that would play out with this material) and b.) I don't know how he would deal with the gothicism, whether he would actually put a focus on the cathedral, which would probably be a first, or whether he'd make all the human characters different. Man, I really want to see this film made now.


I think Burton's on tune to do something not just dark, but also serious... I just think he's approaching that time. Big Fish was a revelation, and although not gothic, it proved his ability to tell a tale of sadness without over sentiment, which is what Notre Dame needs. Also Burton is the most unrelenting when it comes to finalés... He rarely has a happy ending, and often leaves a touch of ambiguity or sadness to his films' conclusions. In all honesty I can't think of a better director for this, save someone like Burgman or Woody Allen (in his serious modes). Directors can be very fearful of melancholia for an ending, but even with a major studios imput Burton has manged to do this. Look at Batman and Batman Returns. A huge blockbuster, with a very ambigious ending.

As for your second point that's an uncertainty really. I know what you mean. He possobly could treat the Gothic as nothing more than a visual vehicle. This is his style to a certain extent so you have a point there.

Heck I'll make it if someone gives me the budget! I'm all into this idea again now!!! Ho humm!
*Throws hands into the air*

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Hmm..I don't think I know him. The problem I have with coming up with good casting ideas is that I seem to be physically incapable of remembering people outside of what I'm currently watching/thinking about. So right now all I can see is the Firefly cast and, for some reason, the League of Extraordinary gentlemen (). Hee and I don't think either fit all that well, outside of a few select actresses.

I've not seen the League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, I've heard nothing but poor reviews for that so I've kept avoiding it. As for the Firefly crew playing parts aside from Summer and Morena I can't visualise the others having too bigger role, although Sean may possibly fit the bill of Phoebus..? What do you think?

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You're welcome . I vaguely remember seeing a film a long while ago that was based on the tales and starred Dougray Scott...I think I kind of liked it, but it wasn't all that special. This definitely needs to be made, as well.


Really? I didn't know about that. Interesting. There is of course the Sinbad films, but that's such a small part of the tales, and again vaguely following the narratives.... No looks like it's up to us again ;)

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But..Willem Dafoe is scary! Actually, the only thing I've seen him in was the English Patient and he was kinda creepy in that one. But I'm looking at Google pictures and damn, I can definitely see it. If he was way way younger and had slightly darker skin, he'd be perfect for Santiago.


Wouldn't he just? That is how I read the book thinking of him as a young Willem....

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Wow, I've finally found someone who loves Notre Dame de Paris as much as I do. I tell all my friends to read it and they're like "umm..but..it's long..and..I'll just go watch the Disney movie." I, too, absolutely love the cathedral..simply put, it's gorgeous. And also very different-looking, what with the squared tops and all. After reading Notre Dame de Paris, I wanted to explore every bit of the cathedral to see if I could find Frollo's little room thingy.


Same here! I keep trying to encourage my friends to read this book too, but alas no-one gives it the chance....

Do you remember that beautiful line in the book, where Hugo is describing Quasimodo and he basically and more lyrically says, how given Quasimodo's shape and disfigurement, there could never be a place where he belonged more perfectly than in amoungst the gothic statues, and gargolyes of Notre Dame?

I loved that description of Quasimodo and of Norte Dame.

So yeah believe me you have found someone who loves this book as much as you do! I'm amazed too that I've found someone who loves this book as much as I do!! I thought I was utterly alone on this one.

Cool. I'm happy.

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 7:35 AM

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It is tricky with musicals isn't it? I usually find the wealth of music overwhelming, or strident. Plus I'm really fussy when it comes to music in general, so I'm often jarred by the 'style' equally as much as the tune itself. Funnily enough the only musical which I did like tends to be hated by everyone else and that is Absolute Beginners Have you seen it? Well none of my friends quite understand how I can hate musicals and yet like that one, and to be honest I have no idea either. Oh and Blues Brothers but that's slightly different... :)



I actually have never heard of that one...why's it so hated? Heh, the Blues Brothers. The only quibble I had with Notre-Dame de Paris was that they pronounced ΑΝΑΓΚΗ as anarkia. Maybe it´s my Greek training, but it just bugged me.

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Yeah we could be crazy Still we're having fun with it so what's the harm. Morena as she is now is perhaps the closest I've seen who fits the description of Esmeralda - but if it were to be made, I think in all reality it would need someone considerably younger and more vulnerable looking. But for now, if I re-read Notre Dame of Paris, she'll be my Esmeralda.


Morena is definitely just..the perfect Esmeralda. And her gorgeous wardrobe doesn't hurt. Yeah, when I re-read, I think I'll be switching back and forth between Morena and Summer.

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I like that scene :) Cows are funny! Mind you so are goats! My parents used to have goats and they used to crack me up! You ever hear a goat sneeze? That's the funniset thing ever.... As they eat the tall grass, often it'd tickle there noses and make them sneeze and they look so perplexed as to what is happening to them that it's all the more hilarious! They were funny those goats.....


HAHAHA! I want one! Hee, now I'm having Angel flashbacks. Oh, that reminded me - go here: http://www.geocities.com/pierregringoire/Disclaimer.html and scroll down until you see a button called "shockwave" on the left. It is hi-larious.

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I think Burton's on tune to do something not just dark, but also serious... I just think he's approaching that time. Big Fish was a revelation, and although not gothic, it proved his ability to tell a tale of sadness without over sentiment, which is what Notre Dame needs. Also Burton is the most unrelenting when it comes to finalés... He rarely has a happy ending, and often leaves a touch of ambiguity or sadness to his films' conclusions. In all honesty I can't think of a better director for this, save someone like Burgman or Woody Allen (in his serious modes). Directors can be very fearful of melancholia for an ending, but even with a major studios imput Burton has manged to do this. Look at Batman and Batman Returns. A huge blockbuster, with a very ambigious ending.


He did Big Fish? I didn't know that! That was a brilliant movie (and an even better book). I don't actually remember the first Batman films (except that Jack Nicholson was frelling scary), but I'll have to go rewatch them. I think he really might be the best choice for this..namely because after Mighty Aphrodite, I cannot take Woody Allen seriously.

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As for your second point that's an uncertainty really. I know what you mean. He possobly could treat the Gothic as nothing more than a visual vehicle. This is his style to a certain extent so you have a point there.


Yeah...I wouldn't mind a lot of visual Gothicism, especially with the cathedral, as long as he does put a great focus on the cathedral itself.

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Heck I'll make it if someone gives me the budget! I'm all into this idea again now!!! Ho humm!
*Throws hands into the air*



Hee! I'll help!

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I've not seen the League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, I've heard nothing but poor reviews for that so I've kept avoiding it. As for the Firefly crew playing parts aside from Summer and Morena I can't visualise the others having too bigger role, although Sean may possibly fit the bill of Phoebus..? What do you think?


Oh, by all means, keep avoiding it. I was forced to sit through it half of it two days ago and...:shudder:. The only reason I didn't poke my eyes out was that I love Stuart Townsend. It could've been such a great movie, but...blech. You know, Sean does have a certain Phoebus quality to him, what with the nobleness and all. Actually though, I could see him as a Jehan as well, with all that naked singing he does on top of Hippocrates .

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Really? I didn't know about that. Interesting. There is of course the Sinbad films, but that's such a small part of the tales, and again vaguely following the narratives.... No looks like it's up to us again ;)


Sinbad films? I know the animated movie Sinbad with Brad Pitt, but I don't think that's what you're talking about...Heh. Another project. Wheee!

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Wouldn't he just? That is how I read the book thinking of him as a young Willem....


Yuhuh! Now...who do we know that's a young Willem Dafoe?

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Same here! I keep trying to encourage my friends to read this book too, but alas no-one gives it the chance....

Do you remember that beautiful line in the book, where Hugo is describing Quasimodo and he basically and more lyrically says, how given Quasimodo's shape and disfigurement, there could never be a place where he belonged more perfectly than in amoungst the gothic statues, and gargolyes of Notre Dame?

I loved that description of Quasimodo and of Norte Dame.

So yeah believe me you have found someone who loves this book as much as you do! I'm amazed too that I've found someone who loves this book as much as I do!! I thought I was utterly alone on this one.

Cool. I'm happy.



Yes...I love that passage. I love everything about that book, even the "Bird's Eye View of Paris", which is really nonsensical unless you're a bird. Or unless you plan on making a detailed map of Paris in 1482 which, since I've got nothing else to do over the summer, I might as well :). The part that upset me the most (aside from Esmeralda being taken away from Paquette and then Paquette dying, and that whole last part of the book..ow...) was when Gringoire disappeared and left Esmeralda to Frollo. For some reason, that moment upsets me more than anything.

Hooray for Hugo! Cheers,

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 10:53 AM

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I actually have never heard of that one...why's it so hated? Heh, the Blues Brothers. The only quibble I had with Notre-Dame de Paris was that they pronounced ANAGKH as anarkia. Maybe it´s my Greek training, but it just bugged me.


I'm not really sure. It came around the mid eighties, and I think the idea of resurrecting the 'musical' was deemed silly. Fact is I thought it was really hip. David Bowie was in it and he wrote some of the songs. It was about 60's Britain. I thought it had some style and punch, but everyone else I know just thinks it's trash... It was directed by Juiln Temple who later went on to do 'Earth Girls are Easy'.

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HAHAHA! I want one! Hee, now I'm having Angel flashbacks.
Yeah I loved that intro to that episode. Just the way he looks down at those goats. Funny.

I couldn't get that flash to work - I'm on my lowly 56k modem thingy and I've not downloaded the latest version of flash. I'll try at work another time. Thanks though. I read some of the stuff there.

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He did Big Fish? I didn't know that! That was a brilliant movie (and an even better book). I don't actually remember the first Batman films (except that Jack Nicholson was frelling scary), but I'll have to go rewatch them. I think he really might be the best choice for this..namely because after Mighty Aphrodite, I cannot take Woody Allen seriously.

Yeah Big Fish is awesome.... Really moving. I have to admit I wasn't a big fan of the first Batman, although Jack Nickelson was great. No I was more into Batman Returns - that's seriously twisted and Bizarre, and Michelle Pfeiffer is brilliant. Danny Devito as Penguin is tragic and Keaton as Batman is finally allowed to be the suffering hero.

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Yeah...I wouldn't mind a lot of visual Gothicism, especially with the cathedral, as long as he does put a great focus on the cathedral itself.

Y'know these days though, most probably it'd have to be a CGI Notre Dame :( Not sure I like that idea, but you can see why it would be so....

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Hee! I'll help!

Hey - excellent. Maybe we should collaborate on an adaptation :) Man I wish I could really commit to that. So much work and so little time.. Oh well we can dream eh?

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Oh, by all means, keep avoiding it. I was forced to sit through it half of it two days ago and...:shudder:. The only reason I didn't poke my eyes out was that I love Stuart Townsend. It could've been such a great movie, but...blech. You know, Sean does have a certain Phoebus quality to him, what with the nobleness and all. Actually though, I could see him as a Jehan as well, with all that naked singing he does on top of Hippocrates .

I'll keep doing so :) As for Sean - you know maybe he's just too nicer a guy for that part. I really despised Phoebus when I read the book! I projected images of all the guys I went to college with who stole the hearts of girls I liked... Ok so a tiny bit jealous but y'know I'm ok now....However that was the power of the book.

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Sinbad films? I know the animated movie Sinbad with Brad Pitt, but I don't think that's what you're talking about...Heh. Another project. Wheee!


Woah!!! Yeah you're in for a treat if you can buy these on DVD. They're great fun! They're really Ray Harryhausen's masterpieces, very enjoyable. I have The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad made in 1958 on DVD. Its famous for having a sword fight between Sinbad, and a Skeleton warrior. Similar to Jason and the Argonauts but came earlier so it's not as polished. However the adventure is very enjoyable. Cyclops, Giant Eagles, Genies, Dragons, man you name it it's got it. Fantastic film. However there is one version where Vincent Price is side kick to Sinbad played by Douglas Fairbanks JR - this is a superb film and Vincent Price is hilarious. It was actually thought a bit racey as it had a lot of delicately dressed women in it.

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Yuhuh! Now...who do we know that's a young Willem Dafoe?


Presently no, but I'm going to keep my eye out for one.

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Yes...I love that passage. I love everything about that book, even the "Bird's Eye View of Paris", which is really nonsensical unless you're a bird. Or unless you plan on making a detailed map of Paris in 1482 which, since I've got nothing else to do over the summer, I might as well :). The part that upset me the most (aside from Esmeralda being taken away from Paquette and then Paquette dying, and that whole last part of the book..ow...) was when Gringoire disappeared and left Esmeralda to Frollo. For some reason, that moment upsets me more than anything.


Yep. Right there with you. Fact is the last third of this book is absolutely soul destroying. I wont say too much in case somebody here wants to read it, but I have a feeling we both agree on a specific moment very near the end that just tears you apart... I think I read that last third of the book in one go, just for the fact I couldn't possibly put it down - for fear that I'd be in the wrong emotional place when reaching it's finalé. It was just so gripping!

Hurray for Hugo indeed Airylli.

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 11:03 AM

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I really fell for "LOVELY BONES" by Alice Sebold and "THE CURIOUS INCIDENT OF THE DOG IN THE NIGHTTIME" by Mark Haddon. Both, I feel, would be unfilmable, as they are primarily narrator-driven pieces and the movies would have to rely too heavily on "Voice overs".



You know Lovely Bones is next on the plate for Peter Jackson after Kong, right? And Chuck's stuff is all in development hell at the moment - they are insanely unfilmable and take a fair amount of money. They need a package like that behind Fight Club to do a decent job.

I may be imagining it, but I think I read somewhere that Fincher may be looking at one of the books for a mini-series (presumably HBO or Showtime)

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 11:19 AM

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There have been many great suggestions on this thread, but here's a couple that haven't been seen yet:

Dan Simmons' Hyperion Cantos series (Hyperion, The Fall of Hyperion, Endymion and The Rise of Endymion). If you haven't read Simmons, by all means do; he's awesome.


Hard to do, but I'd like to see it done.

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Stephen Stirling's Island in the Sea of Time series.



This is one of those rare books that I'd love to see done (especially as a TV series), but I wouldn't particularly care if they changed much of the story. I like the setup and a number of the characters, and the story is okay, but I just wouldn't get at all worked up if they changed stuff - just as long as it was changes that made sense.

Let's see, other choices for me, ones I haven't seen mentioned (since I agree with a number others that were mentioned):

Jumper, by Stephen Gould. Sure, it's a simple 'person with powers in a normal world' story, but I really enjoyed it and would like to see it come alive.

I'd love to see something done in the setting of James White's Sector General series, but I'm not sure of any particular book I'd like to see adapted.

Runaways, the comic.


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Sunday, July 3, 2005 11:42 AM

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Hmm... The mentions of "The Lovely Bones" got me thinking about a book that was often compared to it when it first came out, "The Dogs of Babel" by Carolyn Parkhurst. Sad and beautiful book. Would make for a sad and beautiful movie. I don't know about directors, etc. as long as Thomas Newman does the score. Thomas Newman!

And AOman14: Dark Tower! Completely impossible for Hollywood to do it, but man... What a series of movies it would make. Of course it would need to be like six movies long ...at least. A double trilogy. Heh. Yeah right.

But Gina as Susannah? Hmmm. Maybe get a time machine and retrieve a slightly more grizzled Nathan Fillion from the future to play Roland? Or you know...just wait a while. I'm sure 6-7 movies would require decades of preproduction.

And thus this adaptation shall forever remain intangible and wraithish, existing only in my head. Probably for the best...but man! So cinematic!


Same goes for Neil Gaiman's Sandman. Sure it's a graphic novel. But still...novel. And again, unfilmable. But fun to dream about.


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Sunday, July 3, 2005 11:43 AM

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Hmm... The mentions of "The Lovely Bones" got me thinking about a book that was often compared to it when it first came out, "The Dogs of Babel" by Carolyn Parkhurst. Sad and beautiful book. Would make for a sad and beautiful movie. I don't know about directors, etc. as long as Thomas Newman does the score. Thomas Newman!

And AOman14: Dark Tower! Completely impossible for Hollywood to do it, but man... What a series of movies it would make. Of course it would need to be like six movies long ...at least. A double trilogy. Heh. Yeah right.

But Gina as Susannah? Hmmm. Maybe get a time machine and retrieve a slightly more grizzled Nathan Fillion from the future to play Roland? Or you know...just wait a while. I'm sure 6-7 movies would require decades of preproduction.

And thus this adaptation shall forever remain intangible and wraithish, existing only in my head. Probably for the best...but man! So cinematic!


Same goes for Neil Gaiman's Sandman. Sure it's a graphic novel. But still...novel. And again, unfilmable. But fun to dream about.


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Sunday, July 3, 2005 11:43 AM

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Double poster! You jerk!

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 12:37 PM

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I'm not really sure. It came around the mid eighties, and I think the idea of resurrecting the 'musical' was deemed silly. Fact is I thought it was really hip. David Bowie was in it and he wrote some of the songs. It was about 60's Britain. I thought it had some style and punch, but everyone else I know just thinks it's trash... It was directed by Juiln Temple who later went on to do 'Earth Girls are Easy'.



But..Bowie! Now I'm interested. :)

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Yeah I loved that intro to that episode. Just the way he looks down at those goats. Funny.


Hee!

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I couldn't get that flash to work - I'm on my lowly 56k modem thingy and I've not downloaded the latest version of flash. I'll try at work another time. Thanks though. I read some of the stuff there.


Heh yeah, when you get a chance, definitely give it a look. It's like a cross between the Disney and the book..very funny. I really like some stuff on that site...I'm looking forward to when it's completely renovated.

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Yeah Big Fish is awesome.... Really moving. I have to admit I wasn't a big fan of the first Batman, although Jack Nickelson was great. No I was more into Batman Returns - that's seriously twisted and Bizarre, and Michelle Pfeiffer is brilliant. Danny Devito as Penguin is tragic and Keaton as Batman is finally allowed to be the suffering hero.


Hmm. Was Keaton Beetlejuice? Haha anyway, yeah, I now definitely need to rewatch those. I love Michelle Pfeiffer. And twisted and bizarre = of the good.

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Y'know these days though, most probably it'd have to be a CGI Notre Dame :( Not sure I like that idea, but you can see why it would be so....


Damn...actually being shot in France would be absolutely amazing. I think, as producers, we should demand that. :P Of course permission to shoot inside of the cathedral itself might be a little bit difficult and possibly sacreligious..damn.

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Hey - excellent. Maybe we should collaborate on an adaptation :) Man I wish I could really commit to that. So much work and so little time.. Oh well we can dream eh?


Oh, to be an important and influential person. Sigh. Maybe I'll reread the book and adapt it..although I'm trying to read it in the French now and it's..kinda hard .

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I'll keep doing so :) As for Sean - you know maybe he's just too nicer a guy for that part. I really despised Phoebus when I read the book! I projected images of all the guys I went to college with who stole the hearts of girls I liked... Ok so a tiny bit jealous but y'know I'm ok now....However that was the power of the book.


Oh, definitely too nice. But I think it'd be interesting to see Sean pull off a mean mean character. Phoebus was eeeevil. Although he seemed more of just a self-centered coward to me, wherease Fleur really did seem evil to me. I think Liam Neeson would actually do a really good bad/tortured guy as Frollo..although keeping Notre-Dame a non-big-star production would probably be a better idea.

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Woah!!! Yeah you're in for a treat if you can buy these on DVD. They're great fun! They're really Ray Harryhausen's masterpieces, very enjoyable. I have The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad made in 1958 on DVD. Its famous for having a sword fight between Sinbad, and a Skeleton warrior. Similar to Jason and the Argonauts but came earlier so it's not as polished. However the adventure is very enjoyable. Cyclops, Giant Eagles, Genies, Dragons, man you name it it's got it. Fantastic film. However there is one version where Vincent Price is side kick to Sinbad played by Douglas Fairbanks JR - this is a superb film and Vincent Price is hilarious. It was actually thought a bit racey as it had a lot of delicately dressed women in it.


Argonauts! This sounds like a load of fun..I'll definitely have to check those out as well. What else is summer for, eh? Hee, "delicately dressed".

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Presently no, but I'm going to keep my eye out for one.


Heh. Me too.

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Yep. Right there with you. Fact is the last third of this book is absolutely soul destroying. I wont say too much in case somebody here wants to read it, but I have a feeling we both agree on a specific moment very near the end that just tears you apart... I think I read that last third of the book in one go, just for the fact I couldn't possibly put it down - for fear that I'd be in the wrong emotional place when reaching it's finalé. It was just so gripping!


Oh man, I know. I was on a loooong flight to Korea when I was finishing up the book for the first time and I've never cried during a book and I've maybe teared up in a Buffy episode or a movie very few times..but that third act really killed me. Soul destroying indeed.
I was very close to sobbing. I think the guy next to me was a little bit afraid. Hee.

Cheers!


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Sunday, July 3, 2005 5:35 PM

SERENITYVALLEY


both "Dirk Gently" books by Douglas Adams.

Adams was gonna make a Dirk movie after Hitchhiker's, but he died even before Hitchhiker's. *cry* I could see someone like Nathan Lane or John Lovetts as Dirk Gently.

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 9:23 PM

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"Ringworld", "Ender's Game" and "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" have already been said, so I'll go with

The "His Dark Materials" Trilogy by Phillip Pullman, Alan Moore's "Watchmen", Harry Harrison's "Bill the Galactic Hero" series or "Stainless Steel Rat" series (the sequels are already written!) or pretty much anything by Robert Rankin, especially "The hollow chocolate bunnies of the apocalypse."

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 9:45 PM

LINDALE


Ella Enchanted by Gail Carson Levine is an amazing book that was made into a travesty of a movie (mostly through huge, ridiculously unnecessary changes to the characters and plot). I choose to denial myself into believing it hasn't actually been made into a film, allowing me to add it to this list.

Also, Boy's Life by Robert R. McCammon is a book I had to read for my high school junior english class quite a few years ago. Quickest 600+ pages I ever read (less than a day, if I remember correctly- I couldn't put it down). I think this would make a fantastic movie, kinda with a Stand By Me-ish vibe. That whole last-summer-of-innocence thing. A wonderful book that I can't recommend enough.

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Sunday, July 3, 2005 9:59 PM

ROLAND


Both of my main choices have been mentioned already.

1. The Dragonlance Chronicles trilogy

2. The Dark Tower Series - I don't think this would work as a movie but I think it could be turned into an incredible TV weekly series that ran 1 or even 2 seasons. That way they could take their time with the story. The budget wouldn't be really large, since there isn't a lot of special effects in the series.

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Monday, July 4, 2005 3:22 AM

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Originally posted by Lindale:
Ella Enchanted by Gail Carson Levine is an amazing book that was made into a travesty of a movie (mostly through huge, ridiculously unnecessary changes to the characters and plot). I choose to denial myself into believing it hasn't actually been made into a film, allowing me to add it to this list.



I, too, really like that book, and I refused to see the film - glad to see I was justified. The difficulty in it, though, is that so much of the best parts of the love story take place in letters - not the easiest things to convert into film.

Ender's Game - definitely, though I'm sure I would complain about the end result if it were ever done.

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Monday, July 4, 2005 4:48 AM

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The "His Dark Materials" Trilogy by Phillip Pullman



You know, I keep hearing rumors about this actually being made, and I think there's a page on IMBD. The problem with this is that the rumor is that they've cut out all of the clerical stuff from the story to make it "more accessible". :disappointed" In that case, I don't know how good the movie would be, if at all.

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Monday, July 4, 2005 5:27 AM

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The "His Dark Materials" Trilogy by Phillip Pullman



The problem with this is that the rumor is that they've cut out all of the clerical stuff from the story to make it "more accessible".



"Clerical Stuff" Like what? The Alethiometer? THAT'S certainly not an integral part of the story... Sheesh Hollywood...

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Monday, July 4, 2005 5:35 AM

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"Clerical Stuff" Like what? The Alethiometer? THAT'S certainly not an integral part of the story... Sheesh Hollywood...



Haha yep..well, I'm fairly certain they'll have an alethiometer if only because it'll look cool, but the serious stuff like the deadly struggle for heaven and the evil clerics and the angels and the Angel declaring that he's God..all of that is supposed to go out the window.

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Monday, July 4, 2005 5:38 AM

THEUNBLINKINGKILLER


They'll prolly take out that part with the angel killing that guy as well...

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Monday, July 4, 2005 10:54 AM

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Heh yeah, when you get a chance, definitely give it a look. It's like a cross between the Disney and the book..very funny. I really like some stuff on that site...I'm looking forward to when it's completely renovated.


Will do :)

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Hmm. Was Keaton Beetlejuice? Haha anyway, yeah, I now definitely need to rewatch those. I love Michelle Pfeiffer. And twisted and bizarre = of the good.

Yep Keaton was in Beetlejuice. A great character.


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Damn...actually being shot in France would be absolutely amazing. I think, as producers, we should demand that. :P Of course permission to shoot inside of the cathedral itself might be a little bit difficult and possibly sacreligious..damn.

I'm sure if we grease the right palms we could gain permission :) however could be cheaper to replicate certain key areas on a soundstage. Exteriors however would benefit from the real deal.



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Oh, to be an important and influential person. Sigh. Maybe I'll reread the book and adapt it..although I'm trying to read it in the French now and it's..kinda hard .

Oh that'd be great. My best friend is french and she's always telling me how much better some of my favourite films would be if I could read/understand French. I know a little but nothing like enough to enjoy a book.



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Oh, definitely too nice. But I think it'd be interesting to see Sean pull off a mean mean character. Phoebus was eeeevil. Although he seemed more of just a self-centered coward to me, wherease Fleur really did seem evil to me. I think Liam Neeson would actually do a really good bad/tortured guy as Frollo..although keeping Notre-Dame a non-big-star production would probably be a better idea.

I like the idea of Liam Neeson playing a tortured Frollo, but yes a big named star would change the element of it.



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Argonauts! This sounds like a load of fun..I'll definitely have to check those out as well. What else is summer for, eh? Hee, "delicately dressed".


Oh it is. It's a typical rainy sunday afternoon kinda film. Perfect.


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Oh man, I know. I was on a loooong flight to Korea when I was finishing up the book for the first time and I've never cried during a book and I've maybe teared up in a Buffy episode or a movie very few times..but that third act really killed me. Soul destroying indeed.
I was very close to sobbing. I think the guy next to me was a little bit afraid. Hee.



He,he... Maybe he took note and decided to go read it for himself.
It's a cracking book. I love the classics. I tend to prefer those to more modern books, although there have been a few that I have enjoyed none have had quite the impact that this one has made on me.

Cheers.
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Monday, July 4, 2005 1:03 PM

ANFA



Ooh, this is a good topic!

I'm gonna have to agree with you, Rocketjock - the Anita Blake books by Laurell K. Hamilton are totally full of potential. I'm gonna have to say I think Kevin Sorbo is a bit old to be Richard, but I love the thought of Ron Perlman as Edward. That cast of characters would be gold if they got it right . . .

Also, I'd love to see a well done version of Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere. I was taken with it and was surprised when I was.

The books I'd want to see, but I know would get butchered to death, are the Keltaid series by Patricia Kenneally Morrison. Brilliantly written, especially if you're a King Arthur fan. I'd hate to see it end up like the made for TV Mists of Avalon - it just wasn't what it could have been.

Hmm . . . Then there is the Exiles series by Melanie Rawn, and the Stephanie Plum books by Janet Evanovich. Evidently, one of the big studios has the rights to her first book, but so far, nothing . . .



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Monday, July 4, 2005 3:52 PM

AIRYLLI


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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I'm sure if we grease the right palms we could gain permission :) however could be cheaper to replicate certain key areas on a soundstage. Exteriors however would benefit from the real deal.



Yeah, I agree with you that some sets need to be build on a soundstage...the deep insides of the cathedral (like Frollo's room), for example, probably need to be built sets. But a great shot of the rose windows would also be gorgeous. Ooh, and all the statues of the kings and all that good alchemy stuff.

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Oh that'd be great. My best friend is french and she's always telling me how much better some of my favourite films would be if I could read/understand French. I know a little but nothing like enough to enjoy a book.


Yeah, it's a bit difficult, but I know some Spanish so it's a lot easier than I thought it'd be. I still can't conjugate a verb to save my life, but in context I can easily figure it out. I just want to get a feel for it in the original language.



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I like the idea of Liam Neeson playing a tortured Frollo, but yes a big named star would change the element of it.


I agree...brilliant newcomers are always fun. Although I do love Liam Neeson.



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Oh it is. It's a typical rainy sunday afternoon kinda film. Perfect.


Hooray!


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He,he... Maybe he took note and decided to go read it for himself.
It's a cracking book. I love the classics. I tend to prefer those to more modern books, although there have been a few that I have enjoyed none have had quite the impact that this one has made on me.



Hahaha hopefully. His life would be better for it. I prefer classics as well..as much as I love Hemingway and some modern stuff (Harry Potter!), going way back to Greek mythology and through the Romantic period just gets to me a lot more.

Cheers!

Airylli

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Monday, July 4, 2005 5:11 PM

SIMONSAYS


Well, I can think of one book that I wish they HADN'T made into a book.....War of the Worlds!

Another big paycheck for Tommy Boy and Big Steve!
Why can't anyone make a movie that actually follows the book or makes sense?


Remember what LOUIS VUITTON said: "It's in the bag!"

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Monday, July 4, 2005 5:40 PM

STATIC


The Alienist and The Angel Of Darkness by Caleb Carr.

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