Okay, the first was the best, however, what 'Planet of the Apes' films did you enjoy, and why? by chrisisall

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Okay, the first was the best, however, what 'Planet of the Apes' films did you enjoy, and why?

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
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Saturday, October 2, 2010 12:52 PM

The first was a sheer masterpiece of science fiction and social commentary. Period.

Beneath was a worthy continuation of social & religious satire, as well as being a nightmare put to film. A truly O.M.G. ending, making it one of the few major films EVER to flip the bird to EVERYTHING!!! No where near as good as the original, but a must-see in its own right IMO.

Escape boasted a brilliant musical score by Jerry Goldsmith, and it had a few good moments, but basically it was a countdown to an inevitable downer ending. Back in the day it made me cry, but I suspect audiences today would just be frustrated & angry at its obviousness (Plus: a totally ridiculous story for how the apes got to Earth of the past).

Conquest used a hammer to make its point. It made the mini-series "Roots" seem subtle. Interesting for its visual use of Century City in California as a location, and for Ricardo Montalban as a supporting player, it was, nevertheless, merely a bland conduit to the next step in making our planet run towards the future presented in the first film.

Battle presented some new interesting characters (Virgil, played by Paul Williams, Aldo, played by Claude Akins, and, holy crap, The Lawgiver played by John Huston!!), as well as the idea that the timeline might have been significantly changed so that the future in the first film may never be fully realized. Low in budget, yet high in concept, this is my favourite film since Beneath. And it definitely has a better ending, in terms of humanity (simianity-?) & positivity.

So, any peeps have opinions on these classic flicks?

The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 1:13 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

You seriously applying the term classic to all of them? Only the first deserves that designation.

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 1:18 PM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
You seriously applying the term classic to all of them? Only the first deserves that designation.

Yo, Ec, the Flash Gordon serials of the early 20th are "classic."
Model T's are classic.
Coke Classic is classic.

Maybe I just don't understand the term, eh?

The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 1:31 PM

CHRISISALL

A classic mistake.
Classic cheese.
A classic misinterpretation.
Classic perfection.

The Apes movies are a CLASSIC example of movies that had sequels that were not as imaginative or well-financed or astounding as the original.

That's my meaning here.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 1:32 PM

WHOZIT

Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:
You seriously applying the term classic to all of them? Only the first deserves that designation.

OMG! What's wrong with you people! "Conquest for the Planet of the Apes" is the best! Deal with it....and shut up!

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - stewie Griffin

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 1:40 PM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by whozit:
OMG! What's wrong with you people! "Conquest for the Planet of the Apes" is the best!

It had a lot going for it, but it was kind simplistic IMO.
Escape & Conquest, while certainly creative for their time, suffered lazy writing from a science perspective.
Conquest was the most violent, man-to-ape, that's for sure.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 1:44 PM

WHOZIT

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
OMG! What's wrong with you people! "Conquest for the Planet of the Apes" is the best!
It had a lot going for it, but it was kind simplistic IMO.
Escape & Conquest, while certainly creative for their time, suffered lazy writing from a science perspective.
Conquest was the most violent, man-to-ape, that's for sure.

The laughing Chrisisall

So you agree it's the best of the lot.....cool!

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 1:48 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

So you agree it's the best of the lot.....cool!

From a certain point of view....

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 2:05 PM

MUTT999

Chris, have you seen this site yet?
www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 2:14 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Mutt999:
Chris, have you seen this site yet?
www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com

No way!
NO WAY!!!!!!

This is a LIE!!!

*prays it's real*

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, October 3, 2010 2:41 AM

RIVERLOVE

The only great movie after the original was Beneath The Planet of the Apes. It's one of the best sequels to a great movie ever made, a classic on its' own.

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Sunday, October 3, 2010 6:12 AM

OPPYH

Beneath is a great follow up(would have been better if Chuck Heston would have done the whole film). It was actually the first Apes film I watched.

Escape, Conquest, and Battle are fine. I just don't watch them nearly as much as the first two.

As for the new film coming out.....why? Why an Origin story? I will be skipping it like I wish I skipped that Tim Burton travesty.

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Sunday, October 3, 2010 7:14 AM

ZZETTA13

Late arrival at this post I guess….. Still, yeah the first was the best and I don’t think can be matched. Well possibly but it would take some doing. Anyway Heston and Serling certainly a couple of my favorite entertainers nowadays……. Can’t comment much about other POTA movies or tv shows. Guess I’m bias about the first and don’t know much of the others.

Why did I like it so much?

Guess it’s the whole human vs. the odds type thing that interest me. We face the unknown yet are able to learn and figure out what we need to do. So I guess I’m optimistic that the human race will live on and one day venture out into the verse. Maybe returning later to the Earth as aliens……I don’t know.

Z

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Sunday, October 3, 2010 7:21 AM

WHOZIT

Quote:
Originally posted by Mutt999:
Chris, have you seen this site yet?
www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com

Another reboot? Superman, Batman, Spiderman now Apeman? Why can't they reboot Firefly? I'm not sure how I'd feel about a whole new cast but it may be worth a shot?

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin

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Sunday, October 3, 2010 1:14 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Another reboot? Superman, Batman, Spiderman now Apeman?

Let 'em try. It will either suck or be great. No loss to us Apes fans.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, October 3, 2010 1:44 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Beneath is a great follow up(would have been better if Chuck Heston would have done the whole film). It was actually the first Apes film I watched.

It was actually the FIRST movie I ever went to without a parent!

AND the first Ape movie I saw. I was confused a little, but absolutely fascinated!!!

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Escape, Conquest, and Battle are fine. I just don't watch them nearly as much as the first two.

Now that Sonisall is into it, I must say that I've seen Battle as many times as the first two.

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As for the new film coming out.....why? Why an Origin story? I will be skipping it like I wish I skipped that Tim Burton travesty.

Origin? *sigh*
I read it would be a sequel to the existing movie series.
Okay, NOW I read of the origin s**t.
Whatever.

And every copy of that Tim Burton mess should be burned to save peeps from suffering as WE did.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, October 3, 2010 2:25 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by zzetta13:
Guess I’m bias about the first and don’t know much of the others.

Sad to hear. It's a cool series, full of bizarre weirdness in the second film, and cheesy SF goodness in the last three (Particularly "Battle" IMO).

The laughing Chrisisall

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