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So, why do you or don't you like Quentin Tarantino?

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Saturday, April 16, 2011 5:20 AM

OPPYH


Ok, for those of you that care. What makes a Tarantino a great/horrible film maker. For the record, I'm pro-Tarantino and think everything he makes is either cool, interesting or both. My reasons:

-He loves the 70's. So much so that he often "borrows" music, actors, and references to the time frame. That in itself is a huge plus for me.

-He makes films his way. Thumbs his nose at current Hollywood movies. Inglorious Basterds is 75% subtitled spoken mainly in French/German. Not something you would expect watching the trailer. I beg you to find CGI anywhere in a Tarantino film. wire work, yes. CGI no. I understand this would mean nothing if he weren't a good...

-Storyteller. See, here is where most people are divided on him. I think He is the best writer in Hollywood today. Not even so much the subject of the story, it is the way he films it, and presents the story. That and the dialog of the characters in his films is an absolute blast. His wording is never dull.



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Saturday, April 16, 2011 6:05 AM

WHOZIT


His movies are great but I wish his characters didn't talk so much, "Inglorius Bastards" needed more action and less talking. I still thought it was great, "Pulp Fiction" I think is still his masterpice.

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Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:13 AM

ALPS2007


I think Quentin Tarantino Makes oright movies but nothing more. The movie i strongly dislike his filming in is inglorious bastards. This movie was supposed to take place is WWII but he still managed to put his western music in it(which didnt fit at all). Also he overstretches things in his movies inglorious bastards could have been a lot shorter if pointless scenes wouldn't be shown for 3 minutes. Example in the movie they are all waiting for this guy to come out of the tunnel, it shows the entrance of the tunnel with some music and him beating his bat against the wall for a good 3 minutes. Which dont get me wrong he is building suspense for that character to walk in but when i first saw it i was sitting there thinking this is one long ass tunnel is he ever going to actually make it out. The only reason i like the movie is because of Christoph Waltz, his acting performance in that movie is untouchable.

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Saturday, April 16, 2011 12:14 PM

ECGORDON

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
He loves the 70's. So much so that he often "borrows" music, actors, and references to the time frame. That in itself is a huge plus for me.


I would say that "steals" would be a better way to put it, and it's the major reason I don't care for his work.



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Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:45 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Hey Oppyh

I'm not a fan of Tarantino. It's not that I don't like him though. I actually saw the guy twice when I went to Paris. It was bizarre bumping into him on two seperate occasions while in that City. He's a tall fellow. He'd make a great Frankenstein's monster!

Ok his films... Well most of the time his themes have not interested me. His preoccupation with small time thugs, crooks and villains has been overplayed and actually aren't quite as insightful as I think he believes them to be. I think he has a skill to his craft and he has an interesting eye for dialogue but it's easy to tire of his schtick because it's a little one dimensional.

When I first saw Resevoir Dogs I really enjoyed it - it wasn't new though and anyone slightly versed in seventies cinema can tell you all that has been done before - but it was an interesting format to revisit. However I saw it again a few years ago and realized the acting is really awful. It could use a re-edit and the performances need to be trimmed. I find this is the case with all his films I've seen so far; his cuts need to be as ruthless as his characters.

There is also the questionable aspect of playgurism/homage. Resevoir Dogs is really City of Fire, but that question isn't exclusively a Tarantino thing. Much of Hollywood cinema is guilty of that, but there's something about the way he goes about promoting his own work that leads you to think it's an original endeavour, when in fact it isn't... I guess I'd respect him more if he honoured his inspiration/sources...

That said I think it's good to have him around as his origins are somewhat contrary to the hierachy of filmaking and I like that.

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Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:00 PM

RIONAEIRE

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Well, I just saw Pulp Fiction all the way through for the first time, we tried to watch it a few months ago but the DVD was screwed up, that's what I hate about DVDs, they get screwed up so easily, my dad's secret method didn't even make it work, so we sent it back to Net Flix with a note that it was irrevokably busted. ...

But we got a different copy and watched it all the way through, of course he has seen it several times and really enjoys it. I really enjoyed it too, normally I wouldn't enjoy the episodic nature of it, wouldn't enjoy that if it were common in films, but it worked here. I liked the dialogue and enjoyed the film as a whole, even though it was rather peculiar. Its the only one by him I've seen, but I liked it, so I guess I like him fine enough..

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Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:22 PM

OPPYH


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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
When I first saw Resevoir Dogs I really enjoyed it - it wasn't new though and anyone slightly versed in seventies cinema can tell you all that has been done before - but it was an interesting format to revisit. However I saw it again a few years ago and realized the acting is really awful. It could use a re-edit and the performances need to be trimmed. I find this is the case with all his films I've seen so far; his cuts need to be as ruthless as his characters.


Kind of feel the same for Reservoir Dogs. Loved it many years ago, but it doesn't hold up as well for me these days. I think from Pulp Fiction on, he has proven himself and gets increasingly better from film to film. I watched Inglorious Basterds at a late screening when it was released, and the audience I watched it with(very full) Was just digging it. Lots of electricity(Brad Pitt trying to pass as an Italian got huge laughs) and at the end there was a round of applause...I mean Tarantino wasn't even in the theater.
I know what you mean though. My brother loathes his work, and our tastes are very similar.

Tarantino seems to be one of those film makers, either you love him or hate him.

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Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:24 PM

OPPYH


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Originally posted by RionaEire:


I liked the dialogue and enjoyed the film as a whole, even though it was rather peculiar. Its the only one by him I've seen, but I liked it, so I guess I like him fine enough..



Exactly. peculiar is a good thing. You never, and I mean never can call a Tarantino film predictable.


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Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:30 PM

OPPYH


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Originally posted by ecgordon:

I would say that "steals" would be a better way to put it, and it's the major reason I don't care for his work.



You are right, but I have an idea: Whenever he uses a 70's reference in a film whether it be music, actors or otherwise..he's really winking at us and saying :[isn't this cool? Wasn't the 70's a great decade full of far out stuff? That's what I want you to see in my movies just coolness. Plain and simple.]

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Monday, April 18, 2011 1:01 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


The trouble for me on that point is that most of the 70s stuff he references doesn't appeal to me that much either.

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Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:38 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:
Quote:

Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
When I first saw Resevoir Dogs I really enjoyed it - it wasn't new though and anyone slightly versed in seventies cinema can tell you all that has been done before - but it was an interesting format to revisit. However I saw it again a few years ago and realized the acting is really awful. It could use a re-edit and the performances need to be trimmed. I find this is the case with all his films I've seen so far; his cuts need to be as ruthless as his characters.


Kind of feel the same for Reservoir Dogs. Loved it many years ago, but it doesn't hold up as well for me these days. I think from Pulp Fiction on, he has proven himself and gets increasingly better from film to film. I watched Inglorious Basterds at a late screening when it was released, and the audience I watched it with(very full) Was just digging it. Lots of electricity(Brad Pitt trying to pass as an Italian got huge laughs) and at the end there was a round of applause...I mean Tarantino wasn't even in the theater.
I know what you mean though. My brother loathes his work, and our tastes are very similar.

Tarantino seems to be one of those film makers, either you love him or hate him.

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I agree with the love or hate thing. Tarantino is an acquired taste. Pulp Fiction is his masterpiece, which many have tried to copy, in terms of storytelling technique, but few have scratched the surface. His dialogue is beyond reproach, the man is near genius when it comes to that.

Yes, I agree that "Inglorius" could have been edited a bit better, but his set up is usually spot on where the "punchline" or payoff is so poignant - like in Pulp Fiction. He was the first american filmkmaker to tell his story his way - in nonlinear fashion and that he caused the reinvention of cinematic storytelling. Funny, inventive and never boring. I wasn't quite enamored with Jackie Brown. As for his music choices, they usually are inspired. As for him "stealing" - who cares as long as it moves the story along. They underscore and enhanced the visuals on screen - the Jack Rabbit Slim scene in Pulp is among my favs, as is the Bloodbath scene in Kill Bill. And his choices usually get a resurgence of that music in the that industry.

But, he's not for everyone.


SGG

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