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The 12th Doctor arrives !

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Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:08 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Who marathon on BBC-A, all day long, and then the BIG event !


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Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:11 PM

MOOSE


I knew I should have called in sick for tonight.

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Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:15 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Everybody always gets excited about a new Doctor.

I'll get excited when someone replaces Steven Moffat.



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Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Everybody always gets excited about a new Doctor.

I'll get excited when someone replaces Steven Moffat.





Umm...isn't he like the Joss Whedon of the new series?

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Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:24 AM

WHOZIT


I missed it, I can't believe I forgot about it.

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Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:24 AM

WHOZIT


Triple click, sorry.

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Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:24 AM

WHOZIT



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Sunday, August 24, 2014 11:02 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Everybody always gets excited about a new Doctor.

I'll get excited when someone replaces Steven Moffat.





Umm...isn't he like the Joss Whedon of the new series?


Well, he wrote some very good individual and two-part episodes during Seasons 1-4, but I've been disappointed with the way he has handled the show since he became the executive producer. His season-long story arcs have been convoluted and confusing, with superficial denouements.

And now with the first episode of Season 8 he seems to have developed selective amnesia. Why would Clara be confused by the Doctor's regeneration? He changed right in front of her, and she had already seen every incarnation of him throughout his history, and possibly versions of him in the future, when she entered his time-stream in "The Name of the Doctor." Why would Madame Vastra have to explain it to her?



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Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:28 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:


Well, he wrote some very good individual and two-part episodes during Seasons 1-4, but I've been disappointed with the way he has handled the show since he became the executive producer. His season-long story arcs have been convoluted and confusing, with superficial denouements.


OK, thanks. I was under the impression that he was THE man, so to say, since the series reboot. And I agree w/ the overly long , convoluted arcs.

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And now with the first episode of Season 8 he seems to have developed selective amnesia. Why would Clara be confused by the Doctor's regeneration? He changed right in front of her, and she had already seen every incarnation of him throughout his history, and possibly versions of him in the future, when she entered his time-stream in "The Name of the Doctor." Why would Madame Vastra have to explain it to her?




Right. She's the Impossible Girl. And who the hell else knows that about her except #11 and herself ?

And while I appreciate that she misses " her " Doctor, it's not as though she was caught off guard, and had no idea this is how things work for the Time Lords.


Speaking of 'The Name of the Doctor' , if she were there at the very start, when the 1st Doctor stole the malfunctioning TARDIS, does that make her a Time Lord too ?

Oh, and I have other questions about last night's episode as well, but I'll hold for now.

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Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:20 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Overall I liked the episode, even with that major nit-pick. The best thing about it? No Daleks! Unfortunately, they'll probably be back in a couple of weeks. :(



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Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:16 PM

IMNOTHERE


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Right. She's the Impossible Girl. And who the hell else knows that about her except #11 and herself ?



"The woman in the shop"... who I assume is the "Missy" character who showed up at the end and is going to be this year's story arc (and may have a habit of standing by the roadside throwing leaves at people...?)

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And while I appreciate that she misses " her " Doctor, it's not as though she was caught off guard, and had no idea this is how things work for the Time Lords.



There's a difference between knowing something at an intellectual level and dealing with it on an emotional level. If someone close to you changed from an (apparently) 20-something to a 50-something with a markedly different personality, do you think that simply having a rational explanation for how it happened would stop it being a traumatic experience for both of you?

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Speaking of 'The Name of the Doctor' , if she were there at the very start, when the 1st Doctor stole the malfunctioning TARDIS, does that make her a Time Lord too ?



None of the past Clara's were physically the "same" Clara - they were all born, lived and died in their own time (just like 'Victorian' Clara and 'Dalek Asylum' Clara) with (apparently) only subconscious knowledge of their 'mission'. Its also not clear that current Clara remembers any of it.

...of course, that means that there was a Time Lord Clara who could have regenerated a few times and still be around. Now, I wonder who that "Missy" character actually was...? Moffat does like his wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey plots.

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Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Wait...that 'Missy' lady isn't the same one who stole Amy's baby and then forced River to kill the Doctor, is it ? I've not checked, but seems they do resemble each other. And what's w/ 'heaven', or what ever, and that robot guy ? That courtyard is the same one where Amy had visited before, but there may not be any connection.

Unless there is.

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Saturday, September 13, 2014 6:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Wanted to like the Robin Hood episode, but man, there were some ridiculous and just nonsensical plot twists that sank that episode down several notches.

Won't get into anything spoilery, but they're gonna have to do far better writing if they're gonna get the fans to stay interested. At least, this one.

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Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:23 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I didn't care for the first three episodes. Nothing against Capaldi, but the scripts were very weak. Tonight's episode though was Moffat back in good form, very, very good.



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Sunday, September 14, 2014 9:05 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
I didn't care for the first three episodes. Nothing against Capaldi, but the scripts were very weak. Tonight's episode though was Moffat back in good form, very, very good.





Agreed. I was withholding judgement on Capaldi, but I think he's doing fine. The scripts have been unusually weak, at very obvious points. And needlessly so.

The golden arrow bit was beyond ridiculous.

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Sunday, September 14, 2014 9:52 AM

WHOZIT


This Dr Who is a little too dark for me.

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Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by WHOZIT:
This Dr Who is a little too dark for me.



Which kinda runs counter to the feeling of not only the previous Doctor, but of the Day of the Doctor too.

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Sunday, September 14, 2014 4:56 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by WHOZIT:
This Dr Who is a little too dark for me.



Which kinda runs counter to the feeling of not only the previous Doctor, but of the Day of the Doctor too.


There have been light and dark themes throughout the whole run of Who, both Classic and New, and even within the runs of the various Doctors there have been variations in they way they acted and reacted to various situations. The most recent example is toward the end of Tennant's stories, especially "The End of Time." Since I though Matt Smith was a bit too light, Capaldi seems fine to me so far.



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Sunday, September 14, 2014 7:04 PM

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Well, I'll agree that Matt was a bit too much 'Raggedy Man' for my likes as well.

Nice, for a time, ,but not the over all direction of The Doctor.

Still, I think Peter's over all persona lends itself to dark, gruff, but I'm finding a hint of dry wit and humor in almost anything he says. I think he's making a fine Doctor.

The episodes, however, are a bit 'meh'. I really liked ' Listen ', but wasn't all that impressed with the conclusion. And call me silly names, but I'm not entirely thrilled w/ Clara being romantically linked w/ Mr. Pink. He seems like a fine character, a grown up Mickey, of sorts.( who, btw, worked out great as a side kick to Martha Jones. ) But not quite as dense. Good chap, but really? The story has already locked his and Clara's characters in history, it seems. *sigh*

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Monday, September 15, 2014 6:36 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Well, I'll agree that Matt was a bit too much 'Raggedy Man' for my likes as well.

Nice, for a time, ,but not the over all direction of The Doctor.

Still, I think Peter's over all persona lends itself to dark, gruff, but I'm finding a hint of dry wit and humor in almost anything he says. I think he's making a fine Doctor.

The episodes, however, are a bit 'meh'. I really liked ' Listen ', but wasn't all that impressed with the conclusion. And call me silly names, but I'm not entirely thrilled w/ Clara being romantically linked w/ Mr. Pink. He seems like a fine character, a grown up Mickey, of sorts.( who, btw, worked out great as a side kick to Martha Jones. ) But not quite as dense. Good chap, but really? The story has already locked his and Clara's characters in history, it seems. *sigh*



Clara's days are numbered, the Doctor will have her inside the Dalek suit by Christmas.

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Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:09 PM

IMNOTHERE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I really liked ' Listen ', but wasn't all that impressed with the conclusion.




The great thing about Moffat is that he always remembers that the TARDIS is, first and foremost, a time machine, not a shuttle bus between plot devices.

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I actually love the idea of a Doctor Who "monster" having a perfectly rational explanation for once. I suspect, though, that certain scenes are going to be revisited "Back to the Future 2"-style in future episodes...



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Good chap, but really? The story has already locked his and Clara's characters in history, it seems. *sigh*




Except we now have Clara, who has been built up as being something of a control freak, faced with

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...the revelation that she is apparently pre-destined to be Mrs Pink whether she likes it or not.



That could be interesting.

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Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:38 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Quote:

Originally posted by ImNotHere:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I really liked ' Listen ', but wasn't all that impressed with the conclusion.




The great thing about Moffat is that he always remembers that the TARDIS is, first and foremost, a time machine, not a shuttle bus between plot devices.

Select to view spoiler:



I actually love the idea of a Doctor Who "monster" having a perfectly rational explanation for once. I suspect, though, that certain scenes are going to be revisited "Back to the Future 2"-style in future episodes...



Quote:


Good chap, but really? The story has already locked his and Clara's characters in history, it seems. *sigh*




Except we now have Clara, who has been built up as being something of a control freak, faced with

Select to view spoiler:



...the revelation that she is apparently pre-destined to be Mrs Pink whether she likes it or not.



That could be interesting.


We also have the possibility of something happening that I can't recall from any other Who story line...

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...recall that when they went back to the restaurant, Clara saw her earlier self walking away, then she went in and tried to rectify her earlier mistakes with Danny. How are we to know which version of her might actually end up in a relationship with him?





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Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:04 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I liked it when Clara, seeing herself walk away, was very pleased with how she looked.





Girl knows talent, even if it's her own.


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