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Annihilation

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Friday, February 23, 2018 6:38 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Ducking back in here for a brief mention of this movie, which is likely not going to be in theaters very long, considering Black Panther will bury it this week, and probably next weekend too. If you're at all interested, whether or not you've read the book, you should check it out while you can. It's recommended.

http://templetongate.net/annihilation.htm



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Friday, February 23, 2018 8:09 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Visually it looks interesting, but if there's no worth while story, then hard pass.

I may be jumping the gun here, but it looks kinda like Natalie Portman tries her hand at ACTING again. That might be worth a look see.

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Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:01 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Visually it looks interesting, but if there's no worth while story, then hard pass.

I may be jumping the gun here, but it looks kinda like Natalie Portman tries her hand at ACTING again. That might be worth a look see.

Also with Ex Machina Director, and Oscar Isaac, and Sonoya Mizuno. Portland and JJ Leigh were not in Ex Machina.

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Saturday, February 24, 2018 9:28 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quick glance at Natalie Portman's IMDB work, seems she's in something called " Pale Blue Dot ", which is the title of a Carl Sagan book.

An astronaut returns home and discovers that her sense of reality has changed in unexpected ways.
Director: Noah Hawley
Writers: Brian C. Brown, John-Henry Butterworth (revisions by) | 2 more credits »
Star: Natalie Portman



Hawley has written some pretty good stuff, so here's hoping it turns out well.

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Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:30 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Ducking back in here for a brief mention of this movie, which is likely not going to be in theaters very long, considering Black Panther will bury it this week, and probably next weekend too. If you're at all interested, whether or not you've read the book, you should check it out while you can. It's recommended.

http://templetongate.net/annihilation.htm





Hello, hope all is going well with you. Nice surprise seeing you here.


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Thursday, March 1, 2018 3:20 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


This was interesting.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Visually it looks interesting, but if there's no worth while story, then hard pass.

I may be jumping the gun here, but it looks kinda like Natalie Portman tries her hand at ACTING again. That might be worth a look see.

Also with Ex Machina Director, and Oscar Isaac, and Sonoya Mizuno. Portland and JJ Leigh were not in Ex Machina.

If you can avoid thinking too much for the first third of the film, Annihilation can be engrossing. I wasn't sure how the title applied to the subject and storyline in the way the ads and clips let on, but it does end up making sense, like Arrival really was an appropriate description.
With Isaac and Director from Ex Machina, I really felt these two films can appear matching bookends in a certain light. Interesting that Vikander is not in this one, but Portman is - striking to realize they have similar caliber of capability. Although Portman and Isaac are both Star Wars alum, she was about 60 years older than he, but here they are a couple.
Portman, Isaac are dead on, and Leigh, Thompson hold up. I haven't seen Tuva Novotny before, she does quite well here.

I just realized now that I didn't detect any overt political statements other than unbalanced gender leads - all female, without any valid logic (among piles of unviable logic).
That's the good.


Now the less good.
The sound was either grating or obscured at times. The last few years in film this trend of indecipherable dialogue is growing, but I still assume it is error instead of intentional.

IIRC the cinematography in EM was fine, clear. But here the experimentation with dark, shadow, silhouette is just unclear and confusing.

Select to view spoiler:


The logical plot holes and tissue-thin foundation are as bad as Gravity, but if you can remain ignorant enough to gloss over the setup, the guts of the story can distract you enough to remain engrossed.


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Monday, March 12, 2018 3:15 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Saw it and I really liked it. I'm going to put it in my Top 5 of the year, so far. I got a 2001 Space Odyssey vibe from it, especially the lighthouse scene.

But, I must say, it was certainly something I hadn't experienced before. Really great sci-fi takes you somewhere you haven't visited, and this fit the bill to a T.


SGG


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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Ducking back in here for a brief mention of this movie, which is likely not going to be in theaters very long, considering Black Panther will bury it this week, and probably next weekend too. If you're at all interested, whether or not you've read the book, you should check it out while you can. It's recommended.

http://templetongate.net/annihilation.htm




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Monday, March 12, 2018 3:25 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


This film had elements of 2001 Space Odyssey, Aliens and Predator. That is not to say that it was derivative of those movies; it paid homage to those sci-fi classics. And like JSF said, it had elements of Arrival too.
Portman IS back Rappy. Tessa Thomsom is really good as well. I'm not really sure if there was a message, but I didn't care, I was enjoying the sci-fi creepiness and the adventure "right here in River City."

So go and have fun.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Visually it looks interesting, but if there's no worth while story, then hard pass.

I may be jumping the gun here, but it looks kinda like Natalie Portman tries her hand at ACTING again. That might be worth a look see.


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Monday, March 12, 2018 3:32 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Definitely Top 5 Jewels....so far. Damn good fun.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This was interesting.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Visually it looks interesting, but if there's no worth while story, then hard pass.

I may be jumping the gun here, but it looks kinda like Natalie Portman tries her hand at ACTING again. That might be worth a look see.

Also with Ex Machina Director, and Oscar Isaac, and Sonoya Mizuno. Portland and JJ Leigh were not in Ex Machina.

If you can avoid thinking too much for the first third of the film, Annihilation can be engrossing. I wasn't sure how the title applied to the subject and storyline in the way the ads and clips let on, but it does end up making sense, like Arrival really was an appropriate description.
With Isaac and Director from Ex Machina, I really felt these two films can appear matching bookends in a certain light. Interesting that Vikander is not in this one, but Portman is - striking to realize they have similar caliber of capability. Although Portman and Isaac are both Star Wars alum, she was about 60 years older than he, but here they are a couple.
Portman, Isaac are dead on, and Leigh, Thompson hold up. I haven't seen Tuva Novotny before, she does quite well here.

I just realized now that I didn't detect any overt political statements other than unbalanced gender leads - all female, without any valid logic (among piles of unviable logic).
That's the good.


Now the less good.
The sound was either grating or obscured at times. The last few years in film this trend of indecipherable dialogue is growing, but I still assume it is error instead of intentional.

IIRC the cinematography in EM was fine, clear. But here the experimentation with dark, shadow, silhouette is just unclear and confusing.

Select to view spoiler:


The logical plot holes and tissue-thin foundation are as bad as Gravity, but if you can remain ignorant enough to gloss over the setup, the guts of the story can distract you enough to remain engrossed.



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Monday, March 12, 2018 4:50 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I'm going with Ex Machina as the best comparison.

Like others mostly just superficially.

SGG, did you catch where the location was? It was left coast, right?

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:26 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Yes, I got the impression it was the West Coast.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'm going with Ex Machina as the best comparison.

Like others mostly just superficially.

SGG, did you catch where the location was? It was left coast, right?


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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:47 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, I got the impression it was the West Coast.



It's not specified in book or film, but the agency investigating the phenomena is called the SOUTHERN REACH Institute. It was inspired by the author's hikes in the Apalachicola National Forest in the Florida panhandle.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, I got the impression it was the West Coast.

It's not specified in book or film, but the agency investigating the phenomena is called the SOUTHERN REACH Institute. It was inspired by the author's hikes in the Apalachicola National Forest in the Florida panhandle.

On the panhandle the coast would be to the south, right?
I got the impression on film that in the morning when looking at the shimmer, Sun was behind them. When evening the Sun was beyond the shimmer. This would indicate water on the west boundary, which was within the shimmer (centered on a Lighthouse, presumably near a coastline).
I was a little confused that their navigational plan was to get to the coast and then turn south. But then when the shore was reached, a left turn followed on the beach.



ECG, did you feel this and Ex Machina were matching bookends of the same deeper concept?

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:41 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Oh, okay EC....I could see that. That's right.....the rather large Gator...Duh!

Thanks for the geography lesson EC. In my defense, when they said going towards the coast....well, you know the rest.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, I got the impression it was the West Coast.



It's not specified in book or film, but the agency investigating the phenomena is called the SOUTHERN REACH Institute. It was inspired by the author's hikes in the Apalachicola National Forest in the Florida panhandle.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I was going by them saying how they were headed to the coast. Plus when Portman's character reached the beach, the sun was setting in the horizon she was facing - which gave the impression she was facing the west coast of the country.

She was facing west, but it was in the west coast of the peninsula in Florida. Clever dudes those film people, to take away the notion of direction so as to create the sense of discovery and adventure. The more I think about it, the more I like this movie.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, I got the impression it was the West Coast.

It's not specified in book or film, but the agency investigating the phenomena is called the SOUTHERN REACH Institute. It was inspired by the author's hikes in the Apalachicola National Forest in the Florida panhandle.

On the panhandle the coast would be to the south, right?
I got the impression on film that in the morning when looking at the shimmer, Sun was behind them. When evening the Sun was beyond the shimmer. This would indicate water on the west boundary, which was within the shimmer (centered on a Lighthouse, presumably near a coastline).
I was a little confused that their navigational plan was to get to the coast and then turn south. But then when the shore was reached, a left turn followed on the beach.



ECG, did you feel this and Ex Machina were matching bookends of the same deeper concept?


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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:09 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I was going by them saying how they were headed to the coast. Plus when Portman's character reached the beach, the sun was setting in the horizon she was facing - which gave the impression she was facing the west coast of the country.

She was facing west, but it was in the west coast of the peninsula in Florida. Clever dudes those film people, to take away the notion of direction so as to create the sense of discovery and adventure. The more I think about it, the more I like this movie.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, I got the impression it was the West Coast.

It's not specified in book or film, but the agency investigating the phenomena is called the SOUTHERN REACH Institute. It was inspired by the author's hikes in the Apalachicola National Forest in the Florida panhandle.

On the panhandle the coast would be to the south, right?
I got the impression on film that in the morning when looking at the shimmer, Sun was behind them. When evening the Sun was beyond the shimmer. This would indicate water on the west boundary, which was within the shimmer (centered on a Lighthouse, presumably near a coastline).
I was a little confused that their navigational plan was to get to the coast and then turn south. But then when the shore was reached, a left turn followed on the beach.



ECG, did you feel this and Ex Machina were matching bookends of the same deeper concept?


I had considered the Gulf Coast of the Florida peninsula, but ECG mentioned the Panhandle instead.
You think the locale was moved from panhandle to peninsula? I had not thought the vegetation, trees, etc in the film were native to Florida.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:09 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Oddly enough, it was filmed in England. A lot of the vegetation was not natural to that location, most of it brought it for filming, or faked by CGI. There is a lot of time dilation going on inside the shimmer, they were there a lot longer than it might have seemed based only on the scenes we see. That was also mentioned early when her husband (or whatever) returned. He said he had only been gone a short while, but it had been nearly a year. I don't think you can rely on where the sun was to determine what coast it was supposed to be, nor can we be sure they were correct about it being either morning or evening. Also, when you have time to look at a map, note there are definitely west-facing beaches on the Florida panhandle, particularly west of Apalachicola.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Oddly enough, it was filmed in England. A lot of the vegetation was not natural to that location, most of it brought it for filming, or faked by CGI. There is a lot of time dilation going on inside the shimmer, they were there a lot longer than it might have seemed based only on the scenes we see. That was also mentioned early when her husband (or whatever) returned. He said he had only been gone a short while, but it had been nearly a year. I don't think you can rely on where the sun was to determine what coast it was supposed to be, nor can we be sure they were correct about it being either morning or evening. Also, when you have time to look at a map, note there are definitely west-facing beaches on the Florida panhandle, particularly west of Apalachicola.

I had been talking about Sun position outside the shimmer, before they went in.
I didn't consider Kane's time estimation to be reliable, but hers was my reference.
I would have conjured a lighthouse would have been positioned on a projection of land into the sea, but I'm not knowledgeable about the details.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:58 PM

THGRRI


It looks like something I'd like to give a look.

Select to view spoiler:


When it hits Netflix or Amazon Prime.




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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:23 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


It's already on Netflix in England, Europe, maybe other places. The studio had no idea how to market it, had pushed the premiere back from the original Sept. '17 date, didn't even want to try to open it in foreign theaters. It hasn't done well in theaters here, it will likely be available on disc and digital very soon. But it's worth a look as soon as you get the chance.

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Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:43 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I got the impression that the studio wasn't very supportive of this film, judging by it's marketing, but it is an excellent sci-fi film in the vein of Arrival. Of course, I had a couple of minor picadillos with the "sex scenes" but other than that, it proved to be quite good.

This film also suffered because of the success of Black Panther. I think it would have been an excellent summer movie. Oh well.


SGG


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Originally posted by ecgordon:
It's already on Netflix in England, Europe, maybe other places. The studio had no idea how to market it, had pushed the premiere back from the original Sept. '17 date, didn't even want to try to open it in foreign theaters. It hasn't done well in theaters here, it will likely be available on disc and digital very soon. But it's worth a look as soon as you get the chance.


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Friday, March 16, 2018 9:33 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
It's already on Netflix in England, Europe, maybe other places. The studio had no idea how to market it, had pushed the premiere back from the original Sept. '17 date, didn't even want to try to open it in foreign theaters. It hasn't done well in theaters here, it will likely be available on disc and digital very soon. But it's worth a look as soon as you get the chance.

If ever a film were saved by its concluding half hour, it is “Annihilation”. At this late point, the film comes close to matching the slithery body horror of “Alien” and the cosmic trippiness of “2001: A Space Odyssey”. Until the last half hour it was tightrope-walking the fine line between open-ended, mind-expanding mystery and lethargic, pretentious twaddle.
www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2018/03/predator-pretensions

Depending on your point of view, Netflix has established itself either as a haven for intelligent, challenging science-fiction drama, or as a dumping ground for follies which were too obviously flawed to merit a theatrical release. First, the streaming giant surprised subscribers by adding “The Cloverfield Paradox” to its catalogue with almost no advance warning. Then came “Mute”, a future-noir thriller directed by Duncan Jones (“Moon”, “Source Code”). Both films offer sci-fi devotees a welcome change from superhero blockbusters and “Star Wars” episodes. Unfortunately, both films are also dreadful: they have 17% and 12% critical ratings on Rotten Tomatoes respectively. (87% for Annihilation. www.rottentomatoes.com/m/annihilation )

Now Netflix is releasing “Annihilation”, which is written and directed by Alex Garland, the novelist-turned-screenwriter who scripted “28 Days Later” (2002) and “Sunshine” (2007) before making his directorial debut with “Ex Machina” in 2014. It was set to be distributed by Paramount, but when test audiences were nonplussed, and Mr Garland refused to compromise his vision, the studio offloaded “Annihilation” onto Netflix. The film has now been released in American and Chinese cinemas, but elsewhere in the world you will have to watch it at home on your laptop. Some British journalists have lamented that original science-fiction is being pushed out of cinemas by mainstream mega-franchises. But it is hard to watch “Annihilation” without having some sympathy for those Paramount executives who wanted rid of it.

Adapting the award-winning novel by Jeff VanderMeer, Mr Garland has taken a 1980s soldiers-vs-aliens premise and presented as if it were a profound philosophical treatise: he has remade “Predator”, but he imagines it to be Tarkovksy’s “Stalker”. The scenario is pure pulp fiction.

Select to view spoiler:


Three years after a meteorite crashed into the base of a Florida lighthouse, the surrounding few miles of landscape are enveloped in a beautiful iridescent force field which looks as if it is made out of carwash bubbles. The area has been designated “The Shimmer”, as if were a lip-gloss brand, and yet everyone manages to use this nickname without laughing.

No one knows what is hiding inside The Shimmer. Nobody who has ventured through the force field’s soapy membrane has come out alive, the sole exception being a soldier (Oscar Isaac) who has been mentally and physically shattered by his experiences. This, you might assume, would be enough to keep his wife, Lina (Natalie Portman), as far away from it as possible, but she immediately volunteers to join the next reconnaissance team (luckily, she is a biology professor and an army veteran). The other members of her all-female task force, played by Jennifer Jason Leigh, Tessa Thompson, Gina Rodriguez and Tuva Novotny, are similarly well-qualified. But despite their expertise and experience, it doesn’t occur to any of them that it might be wise to wear a hazmat suit, a helmet, or any other form of protective clothing.

More at www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2018/03/predator-pretensions

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 16, 2018 1:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
It's already on Netflix in England, Europe, maybe other places. The studio had no idea how to market it, had pushed the premiere back from the original Sept. '17 date, didn't even want to try to open it in foreign theaters. It hasn't done well in theaters here, it will likely be available on disc and digital very soon. But it's worth a look as soon as you get the chance.

If ever a film were saved by its concluding half hour, it is “Annihilation”. At this late point, the film comes close to matching the slithery body horror of “Alien” and the cosmic trippiness of “2001: A Space Odyssey”. Until the last half hour it was tightrope-walking the fine line between open-ended, mind-expanding mystery and lethargic, pretentious twaddle.
www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2018/03/predator-pretensions

Depending on your point of view, Netflix has established itself either as a haven for intelligent, challenging science-fiction drama, or as a dumping ground for follies which were too obviously flawed to merit a theatrical release. First, the streaming giant surprised subscribers by adding “The Cloverfield Paradox” to its catalogue with almost no advance warning. Then came “Mute”, a future-noir thriller directed by Duncan Jones (“Moon”, “Source Code”). Both films offer sci-fi devotees a welcome change from superhero blockbusters and “Star Wars” episodes. Unfortunately, both films are also dreadful: they have 17% and 12% critical ratings on Rotten Tomatoes respectively. (87% for Annihilation. www.rottentomatoes.com/m/annihilation )

Now Netflix is releasing “Annihilation”, which is written and directed by Alex Garland, the novelist-turned-screenwriter who scripted “28 Days Later” (2002) and “Sunshine” (2007) before making his directorial debut with “Ex Machina” in 2014. It was set to be distributed by Paramount, but when test audiences were nonplussed, and Mr Garland refused to compromise his vision, the studio offloaded “Annihilation” onto Netflix. The film has now been released in American and Chinese cinemas, but elsewhere in the world you will have to watch it at home on your laptop. Some British journalists have lamented that original science-fiction is being pushed out of cinemas by mainstream mega-franchises. But it is hard to watch “Annihilation” without having some sympathy for those Paramount executives who wanted rid of it.

Adapting the award-winning novel by Jeff VanderMeer, Mr Garland has taken a 1980s soldiers-vs-aliens premise and presented as if it were a profound philosophical treatise: he has remade “Predator”, but he imagines it to be Tarkovksy’s “Stalker”. The scenario is pure pulp fiction.

Select to view spoiler:


Three years after a meteorite crashed into the base of a Florida lighthouse, the surrounding few miles of landscape are enveloped in a beautiful iridescent force field which looks as if it is made out of carwash bubbles. The area has been designated “The Shimmer”, as if were a lip-gloss brand, and yet everyone manages to use this nickname without laughing.

No one knows what is hiding inside The Shimmer. Nobody who has ventured through the force field’s soapy membrane has come out alive, the sole exception being a soldier (Oscar Isaac) who has been mentally and physically shattered by his experiences. This, you might assume, would be enough to keep his wife, Lina (Natalie Portman), as far away from it as possible, but she immediately volunteers to join the next reconnaissance team (luckily, she is a biology professor and an army veteran). The other members of her all-female task force, played by Jennifer Jason Leigh, Tessa Thompson, Gina Rodriguez and Tuva Novotny, are similarly well-qualified. But despite their expertise and experience, it doesn’t occur to any of them that it might be wise to wear a hazmat suit, a helmet, or any other form of protective clothing.

More at www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2018/03/predator-pretensions

You did not post a single original word, right?
Isaac was filming this and The Last Jedi simultaneously, walking between soundstages daily. I suspect his paycheck was larger for TLJ. Ironic the film was not released to cinema in the country of filming.

Your spoiler includes one of the pile of logic failures, which were highly annoying.

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Friday, March 16, 2018 4:36 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Your spoiler includes one of the pile of logic failures, which were highly annoying.

It is easy enough to find the lighthouse from the movie: https://goo.gl/maps/HvZ2NRvrqhr

In the real world, The Shimmer has already surrounded St. Marks Lighthouse. The public is being told that the lighthouse is under "restoration": https://goo.gl/jRB8th Could it be a real life government conspiracy to hide the mind-bending and horrendous truth?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, March 18, 2018 4:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Thanks EC, I hope you weren't taking my response as being hostile. It was my attempt at being funny.


SGG


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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, I got the impression it was the West Coast.



It's not specified in book or film, but the agency investigating the phenomena is called the SOUTHERN REACH Institute. It was inspired by the author's hikes in the Apalachicola National Forest in the Florida panhandle.

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Sunday, March 18, 2018 4:52 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Thanks EC, I hope you weren't taking my response as being hostile. It was my attempt at being funny.

SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, I got the impression it was the West Coast.


It's not specified in book or film, but the agency investigating the phenomena is called the SOUTHERN REACH Institute. It was inspired by the author's hikes in the Apalachicola National Forest in the Florida panhandle.


Funny??

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Sunday, March 18, 2018 8:59 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The movie is very loosely based on the book. Once you have seen the movie, read the book's ending (Jeff VanderMeer - Southern Reach Trilogy 01- Annihilation) :

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From base camp, no sign of life. From the beach below, there is not even a boot left of the psychologist, as if she has melted into the sand. Every night, the moaning creature has let me know that it retains dominion over its kingdom of reeds.

Observing all of this has quelled the last ashes of the burning compulsion I had to know everything … anything … and in its place remains the knowledge that the brightness is not done with me. It is just beginning, and the thought of continually doing harm to myself to remain human seems somehow pathetic. I will not be here when the thirteenth expedition reaches base camp. (Have they seen me yet, or are they about to? Will I melt into this landscape, or look up from a stand of reeds or the waters of the canal to see some other explorer staring down in disbelief? Will I be aware that anything is wrong or out of place?)

I plan to continue on into Area X, to go as far as I can before it is too late. I will follow my husband up the coast, up past the island, even. I don’t believe I’ll find him—I don’t need to find him—but I want to see what he saw. I want to feel him close, as if he is in the room. And, if I’m honest, I can’t shake the sense that he is still here, somewhere, even if utterly transformed—in the eye of a dolphin, in the touch of an uprising of moss, anywhere and everywhere. Perhaps I’ll even find a boat abandoned on a deserted beach, if I’m lucky, and some sign of what happened next. I could be content with just that, even knowing what I know.

This part I will do alone, leaving you behind. Don’t follow. I’m well beyond you now, and traveling very fast.

Has there always been someone like me to bury the bodies, to have regrets, to carry on after everyone else was dead?

I am the last casualty of both the eleventh and the twelfth expeditions. I am not returning home.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 5, 2018 8:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I just saw a spoiler-free review of this movie the other day and it looks pretty damn good. I can't figure out why they chose to release it in theaters in America but not in the EU. What were they thinking???

The average American movie goer is an idiot. This movie seems way to smart for them. If anything, it should have been a Netflix release in the states and put in the theaters in the EU.

What I find really hilarious is that THIS is the movie that encompasses Female Power that nobody cared about. Put a bunch of intelligent, highly educated, independent women in a movie with no men and nobody went to see it?

What's wrong, America? Not worth watching unless there's a queef joke in it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, April 5, 2018 12:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just saw a spoiler-free review of this movie the other day and it looks pretty damn good. I can't figure out why they chose to release it in theaters in America but not in the EU. What were they thinking???

The average American movie goer is an idiot. This movie seems way to smart for them. If anything, it should have been a Netflix release in the states and put in the theaters in the EU.

What I find really hilarious is that THIS is the movie that encompasses Female Power that nobody cared about. Put a bunch of intelligent, highly educated, independent women in a movie with no men and nobody went to see it?

What's wrong, America? Not worth watching unless there's a queef joke in it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Let us know when you have seen the film.
Have you already seen Ex Machina?

Intelligent women, debatable. The implied premise is that they are, sure.
But this is not a Rom-Com, so why should women choose to flock to this offering?
To draw more men, perhaps more hottie content could have worked. Playmates can be smart too, right? Actresses known for their Rom-Com work are less known to male viewers. Viewers searching for their fix of SCI Fi are less willing to suffer the plot logic worse that Gravity.

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Friday, April 6, 2018 12:55 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just saw a spoiler-free review of this movie the other day and it looks pretty damn good. I can't figure out why they chose to release it in theaters in America but not in the EU. What were they thinking???

The average American movie goer is an idiot. This movie seems way to smart for them. If anything, it should have been a Netflix release in the states and put in the theaters in the EU.

What I find really hilarious is that THIS is the movie that encompasses Female Power that nobody cared about. Put a bunch of intelligent, highly educated, independent women in a movie with no men and nobody went to see it?

What's wrong, America? Not worth watching unless there's a queef joke in it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Let us know when you have seen the film.
Have you already seen Ex Machina?

Intelligent women, debatable. The implied premise is that they are, sure.
But this is not a Rom-Com, so why should women choose to flock to this offering?
To draw more men, perhaps more hottie content could have worked. Playmates can be smart too, right? Actresses known for their Rom-Com work are less known to male viewers. Viewers searching for their fix of SCI Fi are less willing to suffer the plot logic worse that Gravity.



My whole point was the insane story around Ghostbusters 2016. Sony execs, the actresses and the director were coming out and saying if you didn't see the movie it was because you were a misogynist. The women in that movie were supposed to be intelligent and educated and empowering figures to girls, but they just made a bunch of low brow humor jokes and there was so much ad-libbing that you wonder if there was ever a script. You couldn't get away from the coverage and bad press that movie generated for about a year. Even Hillary Clinton went on the Ellen show with the 4 actresses, dressed like a Ghostbuster with a proton pack and everything.

Then there's a movie like Annihilation sporting an all female cast, two of which I believe are black women, and most of them are highly educated in Stem disciplines and nobody goes to see it. A lot of people to this day don't even know the movie exists.

Where's Meryl Streep right now? Too busy with her MeToo movement to promote a movie that supposedly has everything she says she wants in Hollywood?



You hit on the two key points with your questions.

Quote:

But this is not a Rom-Com, so why should women choose to flock to this offering?


No reason, really. Most women don't have interest in Stem field work. Nor do they flock to sci-fi of this dark variety in droves either. There's always exceptions to the rule, but stereotypes exist for a reason.

Quote:

To draw more men, perhaps more hottie content could have worked.


If you want to draw men to your all-female cast sci-fi movie, you need to have eye candy at least. Men are going to relate to an all female cast as much as somebody should expect women to relate to an all male cast.

Would it have worked? I don't know. Natalie Portman might have gotten more men in the seats 10 years ago, but not in 2018.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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