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Sunday, March 4, 2018 6:17 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Sunday, March 4, 2018 6:54 PM
WISHIMAY
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Who will be the biggest windbag?
Sunday, March 4, 2018 8:59 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, March 4, 2018 10:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The end is neigh for MOST MALES in Hollywood. I can't wait for that day.
Monday, March 5, 2018 2:22 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The end is neigh for MOST MALES in Hollywood. I can't wait for that day. Fixed that for you! If you truly think Hollywood is going anywhere, you really are the biggest dope on the planet.
Monday, March 5, 2018 8:26 AM
Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The end is neigh for Hollywood. I can't wait for that day. If you truly think Hollywood is going anywhere, you really are the biggest dope on the planet. Funny, but I beg to differ, for a variety of reasons: First, it is the year of the woman; and the wave has just begun. Why? you may ask, because of the capitalist system. The movie studios, old and new, will take advantage of the trend and make movies for, by and to women. Two, the masses will flock regardless of how "good" or bad a movie is, and break box office records. People are simple, plus they're scared and they will gladly hand over the cash to escape the overwhelmingly horrid vulgarities of everyday life. It is no longer acceptable to merely say, that movie sucked. Why? Because there are a handful of good movies being made, but the majority of the people want schlock and they get it in spades from the likes of Disney (who know how to make money). There are exceptions, of course, but for the most part Hollywood is cranking out somewhat entertaining films, and occasionally throw a quality film into the mix to attract the adults in the room. There are movies like Greta Gerwig's LadyBird, Peele's Get Out, Denzel's Roman J. Isreal and, according to EC Gordon, Portman's Annihilation that challenge the average moviegoer's notion of what is good film. But it doesn't take away the pure magic of box office draw. Black Panther has reinforced the magic produced by last year's Wonder Woman (despite it's minor flaws), and that of the superhero movie. The remake of Jumanji and Thor's Ragnarok have revitalized the industry with clever and slick productions that had people running to the movies in droves. The American public, nay the world, are starved for entertaining films. Except for Star Wars, they have pretty much delivered. Is it schlock? Yeah. Do they care? No. Black Panther, to some degree, is the exception. It is a somewhat thought-provoking film that happens to be disguised as a superhero movie. It is a cultural phenomenon. A tectonic shift in how to produce film of this type. It has managed to produce Black Pride in a time where a racist holds office in the White House and hate groups have actively been emboldened to encourage fear, mistrust and downright anger. BP is headed for $1B worldwide and has already, in 3 weeks, made $500M domestically ($897.7M worldwide). Give it another month and it will top The Force Awakens ($937.7M). BP 17-day total is second only to TFA. Get Out grossed $176M that opened 2/24/17, and a year later has managed to win Best Screenplay. The Shape of Water only grossed $57.4M but won Best Director and Best Picture. The Last Jedi grossed $619M and no one is beating a path to the Oscars to praise this movie. Okay, maybe that's not the best argument since the Oscars seem to draw your ire regarding Hollywood's penchant for playing it safe. And box office draw does not a great movie make. But that's my point exactly, it doesn't and shouldn't matter. My evidence is, once again, The Shape of Water and Get Out. Two highly touted and critically acclaimed films that have found a way to be different, and tell a story in a unique way. No cookie cutter here. No friends, Hollywood is far from dead, and both women and "minorities" are bringing their lunch pails....they're ready to go to work. There's no denying and you can't wish it away. Capitalism is greed, and greed is good ladies and germs. Box office records may very well be set in 2018, and those greedy bastards will make sure to lead the way. Women of the world! Get ready to be exploited and manipulated yet again. SGG
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The end is neigh for Hollywood. I can't wait for that day. If you truly think Hollywood is going anywhere, you really are the biggest dope on the planet.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The end is neigh for Hollywood. I can't wait for that day.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:27 AM
Quote:You didn't mention 12 Years A Slave, which I liked better than Shape of Water. Did you feel it was just too Downer, not uplifting enough, or diluted by Free State of Jones?
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:54 AM
Quote:Hollywood is terrified of making anything new.
Quote:People are waking up to that and are tuning out.
Quote:They won't be around in 20 years unless they make some huge changes to their business model.
Quote:We're in the Golden Age of Television right now, and unlike days past many huge actors and actresses are flocking to the small screen.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:13 AM
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Hollywood is terrified of making anything new. On this one count, you are right.
Quote:Not according to Box Office Mojo. We are on record pace for 2018. Of course, that is not the end all and be all. But there's no accounting for taste.
Quote:You may have a point there, but Hollywood, in spite of their staunch beginnings, is slowly coming around. But it certainly will come true otherwise.
Quote:Again, you're right, but....television is the one medium that benefits from both Hollywood's failures and successes. The difference being the amount of time TV can devote to a character or characters, as opposed to Hollywood's constricted time frame in which to tell a story. There are just enough great stories in film to keep it afloat. The trouble is due to Hollywood's arrogance (much like the intelligence community during the days just before 9/11) no one paid any attention to the new talent, and so, we have blown opportunities to explore new markets. If left up to Hollywood, Wonder Woman would have been a tremendous flop. Will someone please tell Hollywood to keep Zack Snyder away from the scripts....he just cannot write. Let him produce, but no to the writing, Zack my boy. 300 was his one masterpiece, oh and The Watchmen. But these old, white men just jump the shark when it comes to originality. All they know is money. I mention WW, because it led the way for Black Panther to become what it has become today...Box Office Gold.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix mentioned a 90 minute format, but does admit not seeing a new film in years. Clint's 15:17 To Paris was the shortest film he's done, and has been the shortest in a while. 2 to 2 1/2 hours is fair common now. Black Panther was 134 minutes. Bladerunner 2049 was 164. Valerian was 137. Arrival, 116. Thor 3, 130. Wonder Woman, 141. The Force Awakens, 136. Red Sparrow, 140. Annihilation, 115. Jumanji, 119. Phantom Thread, 130. The Last Jedi, 152. Rogue One, 133. Shape of Water, 123.
Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix mentioned a 90 minute format, but does admit not seeing a new film in years. Clint's 15:17 To Paris was the shortest film he's done, and has been the shortest in a while. 2 to 2 1/2 hours is fair common now. Black Panther was 134 minutes. Bladerunner 2049 was 164. Valerian was 137. Arrival, 116. Thor 3, 130. Wonder Woman, 141. The Force Awakens, 136. Red Sparrow, 140. Annihilation, 115. Jumanji, 119. Phantom Thread, 130. The Last Jedi, 152. Rogue One, 133. Shape of Water, 123.Not true. I have seen some new films, just not many. Maybe only 1 to 3 movies a year compared to the 100+ I used to watch in my teens that have slowly dwindled down to now. I see you're showing some movies in this list that are over 90 minutes, and they also seem to be some of the more popular movies that have come out recently. That's a good move by the studios, IMO. But how much longer can they stretch these movies out? We might find out when "IT 2" comes out. A lot of people didn't go into that movie knowing it wasn't the full movie and were't too happy about it. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:52 AM
Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:11 AM
Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The two best "new" movies I've seen were ARQ and I Don't Feel At Home In This World Anymore. ARQ was only 88 minutes without a single actor or actress that I recognize and a budget of under 2 Million dollars and filmed in 19 days in Canada. It was originally screened at 2016 Toronto International Film Festival., and was then released to Netflix. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARQ_(film) I Don't Feel At Home In This World Anymore was only 96 minutes and starred Elijah Wood and Melanie Lynskey. I can't seem to find any info about the budget anywhere, but I don't imagine it was all that much unless the two stars got paid a crazy amount for an indie flick. It was screened at the Sundance Film Festival and then released on Netflix. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Don%27t_Feel_at_Home_in_This_World_Anymore I do recommend both of these movies to anyone. Neither of them would hit my top 10 of all time or anything like that, but I found them far more interesting than anything that was released recently with a huge budget. The last big budget movie I saw and actually enjoyed quite a bit was Edge of Tomorrow. There's no denying that movie was great. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, March 16, 2018 7:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I used to think you were older.
Quote:Have you ever seen The Lost City of Children?
Friday, March 16, 2018 1:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I used to think you were older.You did? Did something about my last post make me sound childish and change your mind? Quote:Have you ever seen The Lost City of Children?
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