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Films of Dystopian Future

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
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Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:00 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I had thought there were other threads on the subject, but they must be hidden, or deleted.

Has anybody seen The Thinning? It was out in 2016, and then sequel was 2018.
The plot summary sounds quite drastic.

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Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Brazil, 1984, Brave New World, The Matrix just to name some easy ones. I just woke up now and my mind is a bit foggy at the moment. I'm sure a lot more good ones come to me.

Note that I've never seen 1984. It was my favorite book of all time, and after watching Brave New World and how bad it was compared to the book I didn't want to ruin my memories of 1984 by seeing what somebody else envisioned.

Definitely don't watch the theatrical cut of Brazil over the Director's cut. Or if you've only ever seen the theatrical cut, do yourself a huge favor and watch the real version. No sunshine and lollipops at the end of that one.

It goes without saying not to watch the two Matrix sequels, but most people have ruined their memories of a nearly perfect movie by already having seen them.



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Oh... also, most episodes of Black Mirror. Not technically "films", but I view great anthology series like this as a collection of short films.

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Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:41 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Oh, yeah - others.

Logan's Run
Aeon Flux
Demolition Man
Terminator
Serenity
Total Recall
Resident Evil
Road Warrior
Judge Dredd
Time Machine
Kafka
Minority Report
Planet of the Apes
Soylent Green
Waterworld
The Postman
Oblivion
Bladerunner
Hunger Games
Cherry 2000
The Island




TV Shows:
Dark Angel
The 100


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Sunday, January 6, 2019 6:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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That's a good list right there.



I don't care what anybody says.... Waterworld was a great flick. I know the internet shits all over that movie so much it's become a meme, but I'll argue the greatness of that movie until the end of time.

I don't think it will take that long though. I predict that people will eventually come around.

The Postman also happens to be one of my all time favs. Same with Demolition Man.

Judge Dredd was good for a few laughs.





I don't know if some of those movies would really qualify. You could probably end up putting about 200 movies on there like Deathrace/Deathrace 2000 if we're going to include flicks like Resident Evil.


Oh.... Judge Dredd but no Robocop?

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 11:41 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Was RoboCop a dystopian society? I thought it was just regular Detroit.

I was thinking Judge Dredd was like cop, investigator, Judge, Jury, and Executioner. Which is different than our current society.

You think RoboCop was the same?



I would agree with those Deathrace type flicks. Were you thinking Resident Evil was normal surface society? If so, then I would delete that from the list.

Have you seen The Thinning?



Another was Ready Player One.
Ultraviolet
Harrison Bergeron
Idiocracy
Primary Colors




I consider Waterworld to be an excellent flick. I don't know of a valid cause to belittle the finished product. But it was a huge loss on investment, because Kostner made the production way over budget. He insisted upon that floating set out on the ocean, and for continuity would only film during sun, which is apparently rare on the open sea. So it was all weather delays, and why other films are on soundstage inside a building.
Kostner eventually worked with Eastwood, but he could have learned a bucketful from Clint before WW. He did OK with Dances With Wolves because it was on land.

You remind me that I've seen Lincoln Ford Mercury in many other films, but he's never fulfilled my expectation after seeing his work in Postman. The Kostner daughters were wonderful in it, and I really appreciated Petty. The whole cast was wonderful.

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 12:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


OK, now I wanna go watch Postman again.

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 3:17 PM

AURAPTOR

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Not seeing Interstellar on the list.

Seems to be 3 variations of 'dystopian'.

We pollute /destroy the planet and things go wonky
We socially and politically get really sideways and things go to hell
Aliens come down and screw things up.

I bet we could pluck folks from all over history and put them in a different time period and they'd say pretty much the same things.

Oh, how awesome ! Y'all have this and are able to do that, but why the hell do you allow that over there to happen ? What's wrong with you people ??

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 3:33 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not seeing Interstellar on the list.

Seems to be 3 variations of 'dystopian'.

We pollute /destroy the planet and things go wonky
We socially and politically get really sideways and things go to hell
Aliens come down and screw things up.

I bet we could pluck folks from all over history and put them in a different time period and they'd say pretty much the same things.

Oh, how awesome ! Y'all have this and are able to do that, but why the hell do you allow that over there to happen ? What's wrong with you people ??

I didn't recall Interstellar as being dystopian.

I didn't consider Aliens alone to create dystopia, just maybe our reaction to them.
Probably should add District 9.

I didn't add Minority Report because, like RoboCop, they were just progressive advancements to the crime solving process.

I wouldn't include Deathrace types if they were Voluntary activities, mimicking Gladiators of old. If they were Government mandated sacrifices, then our world had devolved into dystopia.



Have you seen The Thinning?

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 5:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



So, you don't see the extinction of the human race as dystopian ?

Huh.


No, not seen The Thinning.


What about Children of Man, or I am Legend ?



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Sunday, January 6, 2019 8:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Was RoboCop a dystopian society? I thought it was just regular Detroit.

I was thinking Judge Dredd was like cop, investigator, Judge, Jury, and Executioner. Which is different than our current society.

You think RoboCop was the same?



That made me chuckle a little. You're probably right. Closer to regular Detroit meets the million dollar man. I only ever saw it once when I was a kid.


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I would agree with those Deathrace type flicks. Were you thinking Resident Evil was normal surface society? If so, then I would delete that from the list.


It's probably just my bias speaking here since I'm not a fan of the RE movies.

If we're adding Deathrace, we have to add The Running Man, obviously.

Quote:

Have you seen The Thinning?


No. Any good?



Quote:

Another was Ready Player One.
Ultraviolet
Harrison Bergeron
Idiocracy
Primary Colors



Oh shit. They made a Herrison Bergeron movie? I'd be almost as afraid to watch that as I am to watch 1984. HB is one of the best short stories I ever read, and certainly the best thing that was assigned reading in High School (a close runner up would be Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery").

How I neglected to add Idiocracy in my first post here escapes me. What a great flick that was. I love how both of my parents love that and Office Space and the looks on their faces when I told them they were written by the same guy who did Beavis and Butt-Head.


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I consider Waterworld to be an excellent flick. I don't know of a valid cause to belittle the finished product. But it was a huge loss on investment, because Kostner made the production way over budget. He insisted upon that floating set out on the ocean, and for continuity would only film during sun, which is apparently rare on the open sea. So it was all weather delays, and why other films are on soundstage inside a building.
Kostner eventually worked with Eastwood, but he could have learned a bucketful from Clint before WW. He did OK with Dances With Wolves because it was on land.

You remind me that I've seen Lincoln Ford Mercury in many other films, but he's never fulfilled my expectation after seeing his work in Postman. The Kostner daughters were wonderful in it, and I really appreciated Petty. The whole cast was wonderful.



Yeah. I knew that Waterworld lost a lot of money. If memory serves, it was the most expensive movie ever made at the time at around $70 Million USD. But I thought it was fantastic as a kid and I've probably seen it 5 more times since then. I know I've mentioned in another thread somewhere that my brother seems to have jumped on the internet hate-train on the movie and says that it sucks now and I call him on his bullshit whenever he says it because he was sitting right next to me in the theater when we both enjoyed it the first time.


I REALLY liked Petty's appearance in The Postman too. He was always my favorite artist, and I thought his "nameless" cameo was great.

You're really making me want to watch The Postman again too. It's been years.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 8:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Not seeing Interstellar on the list.

Seems to be 3 variations of 'dystopian'.

We pollute /destroy the planet and things go wonky
We socially and politically get really sideways and things go to hell
Aliens come down and screw things up.

I bet we could pluck folks from all over history and put them in a different time period and they'd say pretty much the same things.

Oh, how awesome ! Y'all have this and are able to do that, but why the hell do you allow that over there to happen ? What's wrong with you people ??



You bring up a good point. I picked on Resident Evil specifically probably because I don't like the series, but I don't feel that everything on the list so far should be considered "Dystopian Future".

Out of your list of 3, I would personally only really label your second choice as qualifying: "We socially and politically get really sideways and things go to hell ".


Deathrace and The Running Man would qualify under those conditions, I think. Though neither movie was directly about politics (at least that I can remember), you'd have to imagine that things are pretty socially and politically screwed up if we've managed a future where we're televising gladiatorial style death matches for ne're do wells and corporations are profiting off of it.

Incidentally, it's kind of funny that both Jessie Ventura and Arnold went into politics later in life.

Would "The Hunger Games" series qualify as "Dystopian Future"? I never read the books and I haven't even seen all the movies, but I never got the feeling that was the future of people on Earth. I thought it was all fantasy? Maybe I'm wrong about that one.

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Monday, January 7, 2019 6:15 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I don't recommend 1984, but I really liked Harrison Bergeron, better than Idiocracy.

Adding Children of Man and Omega Man.

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Monday, January 7, 2019 3:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't recommend 1984, but I really liked Harrison Bergeron, better than Idiocracy.

Adding Children of Man and Omega Man.




I already added Children of Man. What about Omega Man ? Isn't that sorta like I Am Legend ? One was nuclear war, the other was a virus.

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Monday, January 7, 2019 5:52 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


It's hard to class some of these scifi genres

I tend to bunch them into groups, the Aliens franchise etc I don't really class these as Dystopian I class them as Scifi Horror much like the Resident Evil Franchise and other movies... they can also cross over into the Walking Dead Post Apolyapse genre


Then you have the super hero fantasy genre which is kinda more entertainment and escapism than social commentary


Utopia is the opposite of Dystopia, where scifi and technology improves the life of people on Earth maybe like the Classic Star Trek on tv?

While people might see Robocop as kinda 'normal' and funny I could get how some social political village in say Norway or Denmark or somewhere could see Robocop as a Nightmare future

Typically in a Distopia there is a big brooding government.. post modern ...neo modern... a big technoloical government trying to squash everything down, a evil Empire over everyone, Citizens duck, hide keep their heads down, live out dehumanized on a techo camp or reservation and exist with fearful lives, feeling the government's or military police eyes upon them at every waking moment. Sometimes they are given some entertainment but its false, its bread and brainwashing circuses worlds where maybe a minority of people are brutally repressed being afraid to step out of line for even a moment lest they be brutalized or worse, food is crap, air is crap, everything looks polluted and poverty, even though things got more modern problems just got worse.

Was Firefly a Dystopia? Not sure, because it also had an upbeat message

District 9 as it crosses two or more genres the Alien Invasion genre, indie adventure thriller, action film as well as Dystopia.
another South Africa production 'Charlie Jade' feels dystopian, a guy used to log on here ranting on how it was a better series than Firefly... well .... its still worth checking out


Outland a 1980s Western scifi film with Sean Connery was dystopia for me, also Blade Runner the old one and the remake, Judge Dredd the old version and new remake and the Japan anime Akira, the original Frtiz Lang Metropolis was a Dystopia, the Book of Eli and the Martix films, also V for Vendetta that comicbook guy with the weird mask and hat who inspire the 'anonymous' hacker group ..... Mad Max movies maybe Dystopia but I see this more as the world is really gone to crap, everything horrible and post apocalyptic


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Tuesday, January 8, 2019 5:29 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Omega Man was the remake of the first I Am Legend. I didn't know if you meant the original or I Am The Fresh Prince version.

Any reasonable folk would consider Detroit to be a nightmare.

I didn't really consider The Alliance to be utopia, while murdering it's Citizens, making War upon its own, with endless Criminal acts and Corruption.

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