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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see our local "computer genius" RF is such a whiz that he double-posted. Again.

Someone should teach you how to use the internet.

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I see our local "computer genius" RF is such a whiz that he double-posted. Again.
Someone should teach you how to use the internet. - SIGNY


Are you triggered, Russian troll? - RF

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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I see our local "computer genius" RF is such a whiz that he double-posted. Again.
Someone should teach you how to use the internet. - SIGNY


Are you triggered, Russian troll? - RF

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When your ass gets handed to you everyday by your betters, deflect.

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Trump’s behavior at Nato, in London, in Helsinki, is so inexplicable and so against the interest of the United States- SECOND

Bullshit
You have not once - NOT ONCE - explained the interests of the United States, or explained WHICH United States interests you feel have been crossed.
You've wailed long and loud about the poor illegal Hispanic migrants, the poor downtrodden Syrians, the poor fearful Eastern Europeans who need protection from Big Bad Russia, the poor poor around the world .... but NOT ONCE have you actually posted about AMERICA's interests. It's like you conflated our interests with every foreign victim subgroup, and act like we're supposed to swoop in and fix everything for everybody. (Yanno, like that worked so well in Vietnam.)
So, since you brought up American's interests, maybe NOW is the time to tell me what our interests are that have been crossed?? Not Canada's, not Britain's, not the EU's .... not Mexico's, not Syria's, not Ukraine's .... ours.

I'll bet you that you can't.
I predict that you will, once again, evade explaining an actual basis for your giant temper tantrum, and with nary a pause for reflection will continue to stomp your feet and bang your head against the floor and troll.
Because that's what adults do in a real world discussion board.

SIGNY

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just to make sure that this doesn't get buried in REAVERFAN's troll-spew:

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Trump’s behavior at Nato, in London, in Helsinki, is so inexplicable and so against the interest of the United States- SECOND

Bullshit
You have not once - NOT ONCE - explained the interests of the United States, or explained WHICH United States interests you feel have been crossed.
You've wailed long and loud about the poor illegal Hispanic migrants, the poor downtrodden Syrians, the poor fearful Eastern Europeans who need protection from Big Bad Russia, the poor poor around the world .... but NOT ONCE have you actually posted about AMERICA's interests. It's like you conflated our interests with every foreign victim subgroup, and act like we're supposed to swoop in and fix everything for everybody. (Yanno, like that worked so well in Vietnam.)
So, since you brought up American's interests, maybe NOW is the time to tell me what our interests are that have been crossed?? Not Canada's, not Britain's, not the EU's .... not Mexico's, not Syria's, not Ukraine's .... ours.

I'll bet you that you can't.
I predict that you will, once again, evade explaining an actual basis for your giant temper tantrum, and with nary a pause for reflection will continue to stomp your feet and bang your head against the floor and troll.
Because that's what adults do in a real world discussion board.

SIGNY

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Trump’s behavior at Nato, in London, in Helsinki, is so inexplicable and so against the interest of the United States- SECOND

Bullshit
You have not once - NOT ONCE - explained the interests of the United States, or explained WHICH United States interests you feel have been crossed.
You've wailed long and loud about the poor illegal Hispanic migrants, the poor downtrodden Syrians, the poor fearful Eastern Europeans who need protection from Big Bad Russia, the poor poor around the world .... but NOT ONCE have you actually posted about AMERICA's interests. It's like you conflated our interests with every foreign victim subgroup, and act like we're supposed to swoop in and fix everything for everybody. (Yanno, like that worked so well in Vietnam.)
So, since you brought up American's interests, maybe NOW is the time to tell me what our interests are that have been crossed?? Not Canada's, not Britain's, not the EU's .... not Mexico's, not Syria's, not Ukraine's .... ours.

I'll bet you that you can't.
I predict that you will, once again, evade explaining an actual basis for your giant temper tantrum, and with nary a pause for reflection will continue to stomp your feet and bang your head against the floor and troll.
Because that's what adults do in a real world discussion board.

SIGNY

Trump's pro-Russia stance during the press conference was wide-ranging. Asked whether Russia had done anything at all to contribute to the deterioration of US-Russia relations, Trump was not able to name any specific acts — not murdering hundreds of people by shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH-17, not complicity in Bashar al-Assad’s war crimes in Syria, not the invasion of Crimea, nothing — other than special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

Congressional Republicans have been looking ever since Trump left the podium in Helsinki for a way to avoid doing anything about the fact that the president is, for whatever reason, trying to cozy up to Russia and disrupt America's alliances with the UK, EU, Nato, Japan, South Korea, Canada, etc. Even the United Nations!- SECOND

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

And, as predicted:

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So, since you brought up American's interests, maybe NOW is the time to tell me what our interests are that have been crossed?? Not Canada's, not Britain's, not the EU's .... not Mexico's, not Syria's, not Ukraine's .... ours.

I'll bet you that you can't.
I predict that you will, once again, evade explaining an actual basis for your giant temper tantrum, and with nary a pause for reflection will continue to stomp your feet and bang your head against the floor and troll.
Because that's what adults do in a real world discussion board.

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So, since you brought up American's interests, maybe NOW is the time to tell me what our interests are that have been crossed?? Not Canada's, not Britain's, not the EU's .... not Mexico's, not Syria's, not Ukraine's .... ours.

I'll bet you that you can't.
I predict that you will, once again, evade explaining an actual basis for your giant temper tantrum, and with nary a pause for reflection will continue to stomp your feet and bang your head against the floor and troll.

Because that's what adults do in a real world discussion board.- SIGNY

Signym, when you write using the words "ours" or "America's interests" there is nobody at fff.net that believes, except maybe 1kiki logging in from a desk near yours somewhere East of Moscow and maybe that dumbass, white-trash, whiner/hick/alcoholic 6ixStringJack, that you are thinking of anything but Russia's interests. Except Russia does not have any interests. - SECOND

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And, as predicted:

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So, since you brought up American's interests, maybe NOW is the time to tell me what our interests are that have been crossed?? Not Canada's, not Britain's, not the EU's .... not Mexico's, not Syria's, not Ukraine's .... ours.

I'll bet you that you can't.
I predict that you will, once again, evade explaining an actual basis for your giant temper tantrum, and with nary a pause for reflection will continue to stomp your feet and bang your head against the floor and troll.

Because that's what adults do in a real world discussion board.- SIGNY

Signym, when you write using the words "ours" or "America's interests" there is nobody at fff.net that believes, except maybe 1kiki logging in from a desk near yours somewhere East of Moscow and maybe that dumbass, white-trash, whiner/hick/alcoholic 6ixStringJack, that you are thinking of anything but Russia's interests. Except Russia does not have any interests. - SECOND

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NICE TROLLING, SECOND.

Yanno, when you write using the words "ours" or "America's interests" there is nobody at fff.net that believes that you are thinking about AMERICA's interests. Because your mind seems to get boggled just on the idea that "Americans" ... as a whole ... might actually have common interests and common needs. "Americans" ... it's a concept that your mind seems incapable of grasping. Which is kind of funny, because you sure can identify everyone else's interests EXCEPT "Americans'": The poor illegal immigrant, the poor EU bureaucrat, the poor British spy, the poor deep stater.

What a true democratic patriot!

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So, since you brought up American's interests, maybe NOW is the time to tell me what our interests are that have been crossed?? Not Canada's, not Britain's, not the EU's .... not Mexico's, not Syria's, not Ukraine's .... ours.

I'll bet you that you can't.
I predict that you will, once again, evade explaining an actual basis for your giant temper tantrum, and with nary a pause for reflection will continue to stomp your feet and bang your head against the floor and troll.

Because that's what adults do in a real world discussion board.- SIGNY

Signym, you are trying to use rhetorical judo, but it doesn't work because you are looking at the world from Putin's or Trump's viewpoint, where the strongman at the top is there only to express his country's best interests. - SECOND

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I should summarize for Signym: a particular American can have an American interest he follows for life, doing very well for himself. Then there are the vast majority, those unhappy Americans that never had a particular goal and because of that don't do well in a country that doesn't provide them with a goal. I don't believe there has been a real nationwide "American Interest"...

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The minute you start yapping about "American interests" just give yourself a little mental zap, and zip your fucking lip (or, fingers as it were) m'kay?

BTW, I happen to believe that there ARE American interests ... needs and goals which tie MOST Americans together, that ONLY the American government can further. So I guess that makes me a better American than you. Altho that's a ridiculously low bar, seeing as how "America" is a concept that's meaningless to you.

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It is as if you have never heard of states such as Texas. Unlike the Federal government, the states have American interests that don't change arbitrarily with each new President. For example of arbitrary: When Bush was President, he had a plan to end Social Security. Obama had a different plan because he had affection for FDR's original plan. Bush was disaffected because he was following Herbert Hoover, who hated Social Security as a step toward Communism. What is the actual "America's Interest" in Social Security? FDR or Hoover? - SECOND

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I don't believe there has been a real nationwide "American Interest"... - SECOND

Then please, don't ever reference it again! Ever! The minute you start yapping about "American interests" just give yourself a little mental zap, and zip your fucking lip (or, fingers as it were) m'kay? - SIGNY

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Originally posted by second:Signym, when you write using the words "ours" or "America's interests" there is nobody at fff.net that believes, except maybe 1kiki logging in from a desk near yours somewhere East of Moscow and maybe that dumbass, white-trash, whiner/hick/alcoholic 6ixStringJack, that you are thinking of anything but Russia's interests. Except Russia does not have any interests. It is Putin that has interests. Stalin had interests. Khrushchev had interests. Russia's interests change whenever the top man changes. In America, that is not how it works, but Trump is trying to change that. There are 333,000,000 different interests. When you throw them all together, America talks of "America's interest", but it is really hundreds of millions, not at all like Russia. And especially not at all like Trump thinks America's interests should be identical to Trump's interests. That is the strong man system, the Russian system, the Chinese system, the North Korean system.

Because there are 333,000,000 interests in America, they don't want Trump to throw away all those alliances with the UK, Canada, Nato, Europe, etc. that millions of Americans made decades before Trump came along and decided he would remake everything as he pleased. And they don't want all those interests suddenly replaced by Putin's interests for Russia. What is so special about Russia that it should outweigh the entire rest of the world?

Russia is a crappy country poorly governed. Huge area, 144 million population, but economic activity less than Texas, where I am from. If you want to bring up Russia's nukes and rockets, Texas builds all American bombs at Pantex, in the Texas Panhandle. Texas launches rockets. Builds them, too. Has a manned space program. Texas produces more oil and natural gas than Russia.

If Trump wants to shove up the ass of all Americans a new American interest replacing all previous ones, he should make it Texas, not Russia.

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Signym, I guess you have decided to have amnesia. It was you who once upon a time talked about an American Interest. You wanted to discuss it, decide what it should be. I can see you don't live in America. You go talk to different Texans and you get completely contradictory interests. It is mathematically impossible to get a decision about which way to go, what the 50% plus 1 majority wants. There will be a dozen different ways, and not even 20% for any of them. The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I can do as I please. For those people that don't have clear goals, America can be a nightmare where they are always struggling. And then they die.

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I second second. Great line btw: "there are 333,000,000 interests in America"

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Signym, when you write using the words "ours" or "America's interests" there is nobody at fff.net that believes, except maybe 1kiki logging in from a desk near yours somewhere East of Moscow and maybe that dumbass, white-trash, whiner/hick/alcoholic 6ixStringJack, that you are thinking of anything but Russia's interests.

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Except Russia does not have any interests. It is Putin that has interests. Stalin had interests. Khrushchev had interests. Russia's interests change whenever the top man changes.

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In America, that is not how it works

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There are 333,000,000 different interests.

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When you throw them all together, America talks of "America's interest", but it is really hundreds of millions

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Trump thinks America's interests should be identical to Trump's interests. That is the strong man system, the Russian system, the Chinese system, the North Korean system.

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Because there are 333,000,000 interests in America

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they don't want Trump to throw away all those alliances with the UK, Canada, Nato, Europe, etc. that millions of Americans made decades before Trump came along and decided he would remake everything as he pleased.

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And they don't want all those interests suddenly replaced by Putin's interests for Russia. What is so special about Russia that it should outweigh the entire rest of the world?

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Putin gave Trump a soccer ball at their meeting in Helsinki - if he'd given him another one he would have finally had a pair.

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OK now that's funny. In case you're wondering G I've had another problem with my gmail so here we go again. It's back to T. Good to be whole again.

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Shep Smith Calling out Trump video

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Originally posted by THG:

Shep Smith Calling out Trump video

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He seems like one of the few with a brain at Fux and not afraid to use it. I wonder how much longer he will work there! Guess he's on when Trump is napping. If enough Fox talking heads said this kind of thing (honesty) he'd be out in less than a year.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, fortunately I was busy yesterday and so I had to let this marinate for a while. Now that my aching back is keeping me from sleep (too much weed-digging I guess) I guess I'll answer this now ...

So, SECOND, let me summarize for you!

The America that YOU want is an America that never recognizes common goals. An America where the inhabitants spend a lot of time fighting each other. Because a fractured America is perfect for you, since YOU get to exploit a lot of people!

That is the CLEAREST demonstration of the elite's POV ever posted on this site: A society based on every man for himself and God against all allows you to be predatory. All of your "virtue signaling" about the poor illegal alien, the poor poor, the poor internationalist was just that ... so much virtue signaling to cover up your entirely rapacious view of your fellow Americans and your completely disloyal view of America.

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Signym, you cannot be living in America and not know that American business is predatory.- SECOND

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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Signym, you cannot be living in America and not know that American business is predatory.- SECOND

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I know that business is predatory, and YOU know that business is predatory, but our compatriots here on this board.... do THEY know how much you despise them for not standing up for their own interests?

Even when you (verbally) slap them in the face with that fact, all they do is roll over on their backs and widdle on their bellies.

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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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I have copied that into my signature as a reminder to everyone what you think of them, and America.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I aim to please! Now, with more red!

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think you guys and gals need to decide if Trump is an evil mastermind, or if he is an idiot.

You keep going back and forth on the issue whenever the wind blows, and I feel safe speaking for everyone that's not in your echo chamber when I say that I'm confused about where exactly it is you're coming from.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think you guys and gals need to decide if Trump is an evil mastermind, or if he is an idiot.

You keep going back and forth on the issue whenever the wind blows, and I feel safe speaking for everyone that's not in your echo chamber when I say that I'm confused about where exactly it is you're coming from.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by second:


I am 66 years old. Except for my time in Vietnam (until I was shot down) and Austin (until I graduated from UT) I have lived in Harris County (the one with Houston) and know hundreds of people all their lives. Those people who were Nixon supporters are now Trump supporters. They were having problems with their lives in the 1970’s. They have the same problems today. Trump voters do not learn from experience how to solve problems. If this was a scientific survey, I’d need thousands of data points, rather than only hundreds from one county in Texas, but I have come to a conclusion: there is something seriously wrong with Trump’s supporters and defenders.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think you guys and gals need to decide if Trump is an evil mastermind, or if he is an idiot.

You keep going back and forth on the issue whenever the wind blows, and I feel safe speaking for everyone that's not in your echo chamber when I say that I'm confused about where exactly it is you're coming from.

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