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Top Manhattan ER Doctor Commits Suicide After Treating Coronavirus Patients

In a shocking example of the psychic toll that those fighting on the front lines of the coronavirus outbreak endure, a top emergency room doctor who treated coronavirus patients at a hospital in Manhattan has committed suicide, the New York Times reports.

Dr. Lorna M. Breen, the medical director of the emergency department at New York-Presbyterian Allen Hospital, died in Virginia on Sunday, where she was staying with family, according to her father who discussed her death with the Times.

Her father said she had described to him "devastating scenes of the toll the coronavirus took on patients," the NYT reported.

"She tried to do her job, and it killed her," he said.

Breen's father, also an MD, said his daughter had contracted the virus, but had gone back to work after recuperating for about a week and a half. Then, the hospital sent her home again, but at this point her family moved to bring her back to Charlottesville, Va.

Breen, 49, had no history of mental illness, but when she last spoke with her father, she reportedly described a horrifying onslaught of patients found DOA in ambulances, all of them COVID-19 patients.

Dr. Breen


Her father asked the NYT to "make sure [Breen] is treated like a hero," since she died doing her job and protecting this country from a devastating health care epidemic.

"She was truly in the trenches of the front line," he said. "She’s a casualty just as much as anyone else who has died."

Dr. Lawrence A. Melniker, the vice chair for quality care at the NewYork-Presbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital, told the NYT that Dr. Breen was well-respected and well-liked in their hospital system.

"You don’t get to a position like that at Allen without being very talented," he said.

The coronavirus has presented unusual mental health challenges for emergency physicians throughout New York, the epicenter of the crisis in the United States. As the paper added, while ER doctors are inured to treating patients will all kinds of grisly injuries, they're not accustomed to being at risk of infection themselves, or of passing it to their colleagues.

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A local Nurse's story. There is a Nurse who lives a few blocks away. We got to speak to her by chance. Haven't seen her in a long time. Asked how she was doing, and she responded with tears in her eyes. She said she is overwhelmed by the hours she puts in. Her main location is PIH, where she does a 12 hr. day. She said she is often called to help out at other Hospitals, which she is committed to help other health professionals. She said she often works close to a full day with only minimal breaks. We found out that reports of cases is not talked about because the priority is to try to save lives. She said she's had to use her same mask for weeks. She takes it off, and puts its in a plastic bag, and uses it again the next day. She's exhausted. Just listening to her makes you cry. We only hear how bad it is for them in the news, but to actually hear how bad it is in reality, gives a whole new insight into the suffering, on both sides. Thank you to all the health professionals, first responder for your beautiful commitment to save others. Bless you all.

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I gave you a ton of suggestions.

You silently shrugged.

I'm not going to respond to any more of your whinging about your relatives. If you can't be bothered, then neither can I.

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Your suggestions were call them (which I do) and drive down to my brother (which I can't).

My offer for him to live here temporarily is always on the table. They were going to do it and then all of the sudden they got cold feet about it. They're afraid that he can't go back to his place if things get even worse and more locked down in Illinois. His building is nearly all senior citizens outside of him and a few other younger people with disabilities.

It probably wouldn't help him too much if he was here. At least I could make sure he wasn't going to start drinking, but he still can't go to church or really do anything. It would make the old man feel better though.

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That's your careless reading again. I made a ton of suggestions that don't involve YOU calling them to chit-chat, or driving there.


And get other relatives to call him OFTEN.
Ask him who's in his church group.
Get THEM to call him OFTEN.
Be observant and proactive. If there's something that he's not doing now that he used to do, find a way to make it happen in some fashion.
Get him out of the house.
Read his favorite bible passages over the phone.

Yes, it'll take time and effort. You may need to go WAY out of your comfort zone and spend a HUGE amount of time and effort.

You'll need to call your relatives and get them on board.
You'll need to suss out his church. You'll need to suss out those people. You'll need to get THEM on board to call him and establish regular, reliable contact - something he can count on, besides you. (ETA: as long as they don't try and cheer him out of his rut, or try to keep up an endlessly cheery facade with the expectation he'll join them. Their conversations should engage him in immediate things that are not COVID.)
If he has a doctor/ neurologist/ psychologist/ psychiatrist you might let them know what's going on. There's always a chance his depression is partially neurology-driven and so you might be fighting against the tide without medical help.
If he's drinking, how is he getting his alcohol? Stinkin' thinkin' and drinkin' can lead him to attempt suicide. It sounds like he's in an assisted care residence. Can you find a way to interrupt the drinkin' by finding out how he's getting it? Can you enlist the residence? Because they may be able to interrupt the drinkin'.
What can he do outside of his dwelling? Does he have a hobby or interest that can take him out of his depressed rut?
Does he have a reliable routine? Can you encourage that? I remember a friend talking to his mother every day when she was depressed. : Ma, did you take your medicine? Did you eat breakfast? How are you doing for food? Tell me, what's in your frig. Did you talk with (relative) today yet? Oh really?! How's she doing? : Being depressed often means you give up on regular daily at-home routines. Reestablishing them can help.

I have far more experience with that situation than I've posted about because (for the most part) I don't intrude on other people's privacy. If I posted about my experiences, I'd be posting about those people, too, which I almost never do (as you may have noticed). But there are things you can do to help. You can't guarantee results, but you can do whatever is in your power, and there's a lot of options.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Bill Gates is just about as qualified to talk about a pandemic as Wishy is.

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Sorry not sorry.

Not interested in any of Bill Gates' new world order solutions to anything.

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Lucky.

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Lucky.

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Even though Trump's approval ratings concerning how he has handled the country's response to the coronavirus have dropped, those surveyed still believed he would win a second term as president. While 43.3 percent of participants in the poll believed Biden would win the election, 56.7 percent believed Trump would emerge the victor.

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Trump signaled Tuesday that he’s looking to condition coronavirus economic relief for blue states on complying with the administration’s immigration policy goals.

In remarks to reporters at a White House event with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Trump said he’d be willing to give economic aid to Democratically controlled state governments, but he wants them to do something for him first — bend their sanctuary city policies to align with the administration’s desired policy.

Trump said he was only open to helping some states financially cover losses related to the coronavirus pandemic.

“I think there’s a big difference with a state that lost money because of Covid and a state that’s been run very badly for 25 years,” he said.

He then mentioned sates with sanctuary city policies.

“We’d have to talk about things like sanctuary cities, as an example. I think sanctuary cities is something that has to be brought up where people who are criminals are protected, they are protected from prosecution,” he told reporters, despite sanctuary city policies having nothing to do with the pandemic. “I think that has to be done. I think it’s one of the problems that the states have. I don’t even think they know they have a problem, but they have a big problem with the sanctuary situation.”

Later in the day, Trump reiterated his sanctuary city comments while taking questions from reporters at an East Room event to promote the success of the Payroll Protection Program. “If it’s Covid-related, I guess we can talk about [aid], but we’d want certain things also, including sanctuary city adjustments,” he said.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/28/21239903/trump-coronavirus-a
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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More reason for Trump to be re-elected right here.

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lol

Well there's no way I'm voting for a 2020 Democrat.

I don't know why you keep obsessing over Trump. You're just going to have to live with him for another 5 years and then we can have a Democrat screwing things up for everybody.

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"For some time, certain US politicians, in disregard of the facts, have attempted to shift their own responsibility for their poor handling of the epidemic to others," a ministry spokesman, Geng Shuang, said.

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"For some time, certain US politicians, in disregard of the facts, have attempted to shift their own responsibility for their poor handling of the epidemic to others," a ministry spokesman, Geng Shuang, said.

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Yes. I know exactly what he means. Like three years of hearing that the poor handling of Hillary's campaign was really just Putin hackin' muh elections.

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"For some time, certain US politicians, in disregard of the facts, have attempted to shift their own responsibility for their poor handling of the epidemic to others," a ministry spokesman, Geng Shuang, said.

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Yes. I know exactly what he means. Like three years of hearing that the poor handling of Hillary's campaign was really just Putin hackin' muh elections.

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Trump received 48.18% to Hillary's 47.46% in Pennsylvania, but Trump got 100% (equal to 20 votes) in the electoral college. It appears that the Founding Fathers never understood a run-off election when nobody gets 50%. In a run-off Trump would lose.

That's why Trump is President -- the Founding Fathers weren't that good at drafting a Constitution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by TheGhostOfChrisisall:
Hi. Just checking in. 5 more years of Trump, LOL. We barely survived 3. Another term and we go full-on Nazi. Pretty close as it is now. I'll check back in a few if Trump loses. If not we're all dead or dying in which case I won't.

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Sounds like poor sportsmanship and a giant misunderstanding about how our country has worked for going on almost 250 years now.

Also sounds like that's your problem.

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Sounds like poor sportsmanship and a giant misunderstanding about how our country has worked for going on almost 250 years now.

Also sounds like that's your problem.

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My favorite example of how America does NOT work well is the 13th Amendment (ends slavery). A million people had to die to get it passed. Is a million dead anybody's idea of working well? Especially since other countries ended slavery without Civil Wars?

One more example of NOT working well: the 14th Amendment was intended to only make former slaves into new US citizens, but what it really did was to also make the children of illegal aliens US citizens. Republicans have been complaining for two centuries that Mexicans sneak into the US to give birth.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amen
dment-xiv

6ix, if you actually knew any true history, or even if you paid attention to what bonehead Trump is doing about Covid-19 compared to what S Korea or Taiwan are doing, you won't dare claim the US works well.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Damn. How did it even get up there?

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Vancouver - a national and international hub. Like San Fran, but better.

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https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2020/0319/A-health-officer-wi
th-a-fan-club-Meet-Canada-s-Dr.-Bonnie

A health officer with a fan club? Meet Canada’s Dr. Bonnie.

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Shut up Commie.

Nobody gives a shit about your love for authoritarianism.

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Shut up Commie.

Nobody gives a shit about your love for authoritarianism.

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Oh interesting!

I hope they do well with contact tracing and quarantine for everyone downstream, that this doesn't get a toehold in any community, and that everyone does well.

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