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Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:19 PM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Originally posted
I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.

In reality you've probably drunk away more IQ points than you've smoked away. In any case, I wouldn't brag about it if I were you, because killing your IQ by drinking and smoking, and then bragging about it, both seem kinda dumb.



The point being, I had plenty to spare.

I still have zero problems matching wits with self-proclaimed geniuses.

Namely you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your brain has lots of problems. Of course you don't see that yourself.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:19 PM

REAVERFAN


The trumpnazis remain the stupidest people on Earth.



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Wednesday, July 15, 2020 3:12 PM

REAVERFAN


Missouri School District Asks Parents To Sign COVID-19 ‘Death Waiver’

Safety first? A Missouri school district is asking parents to sign a waiver to release the district from liability if their child dies or is injured from COVID-19 related causes.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2020/07/misso
uri-school-district-asks-parents-to-sign-covid-19-death-waiver/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Nonreligious&utm_content=367

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Wednesday, July 15, 2020 3:19 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted
I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.

In reality you've probably drunk away more IQ points than you've smoked away. In any case, I wouldn't brag about it if I were you, because killing your IQ by drinking and smoking, and then bragging about it, both seem kinda dumb.

Haven't you noticed, all potheads brag they are smarter than anybody else. Their high level logic and critical thinking at work.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2020 7:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I've been sober 3 years, 7 months and 15 days. That's sober from everything.

I quit smoking weed at least 2 years before I quit drinking.


I'm a pot advocate, but I'm not a pot head.

Even when I smoked every day, a $60 ounce lasted me nearly 3 months. Hardly Snoop Doggin' it.


My being smarter than everybody else problem isn't a weed problem. It's a being smarter than everybody else problem.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:35 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


There’s no point in sugar-coating this. The U.S. response to the Covid-19 pandemic is a raging dumpster fire.

Where a number of countries in Asia and Europe have managed to dampen spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus to the point where they can consider returning to a semblance of normalcy — many international borders remain closed to Americans.

On Sunday, Florida reported more than 15,000 cases — in a single day. South Korea hasn’t registered 15,000 cases in the entire pandemic to date. One day last week the U.S. recorded more than 68,000 cases.

The website www.covidexitstrategy.org has updated its previously tri-colored U.S. map, which showed states as either green, signifying they are trending better; yellow, making progress; or red, trending poorly. A fourth designation, called “bruised red,” signals states with uncontrolled spread; criteria for this category includes hospitals nearing capacity both in terms of overall beds and ICU space. Already 17 states are wearing bruised red.

The virus suppression gains earned through the painful societal shutdowns of March, April, and May — the flattened epidemiological curves — have been squandered in many parts of the country, dejected public health experts agree. A vaccine for the masses is still months away. What can be done?

More at www.statnews.com/2020/07/14/fix-covid-19-dumpster-fire-us/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nah.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:53 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
There’s no point in sugar-coating this. The U.S. response to the Covid-19 pandemic is a raging dumpster fire.

Pretty much.

When it comes to per capita 'new cases', the US is second only to South Africa.

When it comes to per capita 'new deaths', the US is behind such luminaries as Peru, Brazil, Mexico, Chile, Bolivia, Columbia, Guatemala, and Iraq, in that order. But at least we're just ahead of Sweden!

http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

We're in the sweet spot. We have all the first-world benefits that make us especially vulnerable: first-world 'lifestyle' risk factors like heart disease and age, plus the first-world benefits of reasonable transportation; but then we have a crap medical system and a corrupt, elite-protective political system that writes off mere peons, and that rivals any repressive plutocracy on the planet.


YAY US !!!


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Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


We'll be fine.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:26 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You must think you're one of the elite that's going to be looked-after medically and financially.

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Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:45 PM

REAVERFAN


Well, we know where 6 gets his news.

America has been 'Hannitized,' and the ignorance he spreads is deadly
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/25/1955881/-Protests-against-r
acist-police-violence-did-not-spread-COVID-19-but-Sean-Hannity-did?link_id=2&can_id=c100ca601958a2f6ee6b97d7b0eb3df9&source=email-we-are-in-serious-trouble-18&email_referrer=email_862599&email_subject=we-are-in-serious-trouble


But there is a political factor that’s increasing both the reach and the deadliness of the pandemic. Because studies are now showing how right-wing media, including Fox News, has deliberately spread confusion, conflicting information, and outright lies about the pandemic. These sources downplayed the risk, spread a false sense of security, and encouraged viewers to disregard their personal safety even as hospitals—and morgues—were filling. The most astounding result: Both infection rates and mortality can be mapped to places where Sean Hannity is most popular.

Hannity has long been Donald Trump’s most reliable purveyor of unreliable information, and on the COVID-19 crisis Hannity has worked overtime. In the early days of the crisis, Hannity could be counted on to declare it was a hoax. When Trump was pushing hydroxychloroquine, Hannity was all over it as a miracle drug. When Trump started pushing to reopen, Hannity got out the crow bars to complain that the economy was more important than grandma. So it’s no surprise that Hannity viewers are the most confused about the nature of the pandemic—and more likely to die as a result.

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Thursday, July 16, 2020 2:11 PM

THG


Nice to have you back REAVERFAN

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 17, 2020 5:45 AM

THG


There were 77,255 new cases reported Thursday, topping the previous high of 67,791 two days ago. Holy shit Trump fucked this up.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 17, 2020 8:11 AM

REAVERFAN


Fox News pushed coronavirus misinformation 253 times in just five days
https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/fox-news-pushed-coro
navirus-misinformation-253-times-just-five-days


Fox News repeated coronavirus misinformation 253 times in its weekday coverage from July 6 through 10, including claims that undermined scientific research about the pandemic, eroded trust in public health experts and policy recommendations, called for reopening schools and businesses without regard to public health precautions, and politicized the country’s response to the virus.

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Friday, July 17, 2020 8:31 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We'll be fine.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Imperial College of London worst-case simulation came up with 2.2 million deaths by simply assuming that 81% of the population gets infected ­– 268 million people – and that 0.9% of them die. It did not assume health systems would have to be overwhelmed to result in so many deaths, though it did make that prediction. Neither the high infection rate nor the high fatality rate holds up under scrutiny.

The worst-case Imperial College estimate of 2.2 million deaths if everyone does “nothing” did not simply mean no government lockdowns. It meant nobody avoids crowded elevators, or wears face masks, washes their hands more often, or buys gloves or hand sanitizer. Everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger.

www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths-covid-1
9


2.2 million dead is a small number in big country. For example, Gary Earl Johnson, Libertarian, got 4,489,341 votes in 2016. He literally had no chance of winning, but votes for him could have swung the election either way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election
#Electoral_results


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 17, 2020 9:33 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Went out with the helmet yesterday.

Its 3 videoz, but this forum duznt take embedz for playlists, so I hav to post the link to the individual video.



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Friday, July 17, 2020 10:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Well, we know where 6 gets his news.

America has been 'Hannitized,' and the ignorance he spreads is deadly
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/25/1955881/-Protests-against-r
acist-police-violence-did-not-spread-COVID-19-but-Sean-Hannity-did?link_id=2&can_id=c100ca601958a2f6ee6b97d7b0eb3df9&source=email-we-are-in-serious-trouble-18&email_referrer=email_862599&email_subject=we-are-in-serious-trouble


But there is a political factor that’s increasing both the reach and the deadliness of the pandemic. Because studies are now showing how right-wing media, including Fox News, has deliberately spread confusion, conflicting information, and outright lies about the pandemic. These sources downplayed the risk, spread a false sense of security, and encouraged viewers to disregard their personal safety even as hospitals—and morgues—were filling. The most astounding result: Both infection rates and mortality can be mapped to places where Sean Hannity is most popular.

Hannity has long been Donald Trump’s most reliable purveyor of unreliable information, and on the COVID-19 crisis Hannity has worked overtime. In the early days of the crisis, Hannity could be counted on to declare it was a hoax. When Trump was pushing hydroxychloroquine, Hannity was all over it as a miracle drug. When Trump started pushing to reopen, Hannity got out the crow bars to complain that the economy was more important than grandma. So it’s no surprise that Hannity viewers are the most confused about the nature of the pandemic—and more likely to die as a result.





I've always said that Hannity and Limbaugh are two of the biggest pieces of shit in America.

Take that shit to JSF, because once again you don't know what you're talking about.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 17, 2020 3:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We'll be fine.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Imperial College of London worst-case simulation came up with 2.2 million deaths by simply assuming that 81% of the population gets infected ­– 268 million people – and that 0.9% of them die. It did not assume health systems would have to be overwhelmed to result in so many deaths, though it did make that prediction. Neither the high infection rate nor the high fatality rate holds up under scrutiny.

The worst-case Imperial College estimate of 2.2 million deaths if everyone does “nothing” did not simply mean no government lockdowns. It meant nobody avoids crowded elevators, or wears face masks, washes their hands more often, or buys gloves or hand sanitizer. Everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger.

www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths-covid-1
9


WTF?
second is agreeing with 6ix?

What is going on here?

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Friday, July 17, 2020 5:30 PM

THG


JO love the video buddy. You made my evening better.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 17, 2020 8:34 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


xanks!

Posted a debunk vid today:



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Friday, July 17, 2020 8:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Masks are for children on Halloween.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 17, 2020 9:08 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We'll be fine.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Imperial College of London worst-case simulation came up with 2.2 million deaths by simply assuming that 81% of the population gets infected ­– 268 million people – and that 0.9% of them die. It did not assume health systems would have to be overwhelmed to result in so many deaths, though it did make that prediction. Neither the high infection rate nor the high fatality rate holds up under scrutiny.

The worst-case Imperial College estimate of 2.2 million deaths if everyone does “nothing” did not simply mean no government lockdowns. It meant nobody avoids crowded elevators, or wears face masks, washes their hands more often, or buys gloves or hand sanitizer. Everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger.

www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths-covid-1
9


WTF?
second is agreeing with 6ix?

What is going on here?

Not actually agreeing with 6ix. Trump was bragging that the eventual number of deaths could be as high as 2.2 million and, therefore, everybody should be thanking Trump for saved lives. For example of how Trump does arithmetic: with 200,000 deaths, Trump would say he saved 2 million lives. When I do the total, Trump is an incompetent who killed 200,000. His final death total could have been more like Japan's 985.
www.google.com/search?q=japan+covid-19+death+toll

Japan has many of the conditions that make it vulnerable to Covid-19, but it never adopted the energetic approach to tackling the virus that some of its neighbours did. Japan had no lockdown, but it has an elderly population. Japan has fewer than 20,000 confirmed cases and fewer than 1,000 deaths. The state of emergency has been lifted, and life is rapidly returning to normal.
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53188847

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 17, 2020 11:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump really missed an opportunity there. 2.2 Million is a serious lowball compared to some of the laughable numbers the chicken little Mask Karens were terrorizing each other with on Titter.

He didn't kill anybody, you stupid fuck.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 17, 2020 11:26 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump really missed an opportunity there. 2.2 Million is a serious lowball compared to some of the laughable numbers the chicken little Mask Karens were terrorizing each other with on Titter.

He didn't kill anybody, you stupid fuck.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump did kill people with his ridiculously contradictory messages. Japan asked people to take care, stay away from crowded places, wear masks and wash their hands - and by and large, that is exactly what most people have done and the result is that only 985 died. Trump told people in his deeply confusing TV appearances on Coved-19 to do the opposite of Japan and the result is 141,000 died.
www.google.com/search?q=japan+covid-19+death+toll
www.google.com/search?q=usa+covid-19+death+toll
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53188847

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 17, 2020 11:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I congratulate you for posting an on-point, FACT-based reply. So, in general, please keep up the effort! I would love to continue a fact-based discussion with you about multiple topics.

But FACTS don't matter to JACKAREN. Not even if they're linked to multiple orignal sources.

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:07 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I congratulate you for posting an on-point, FACT-based reply. So, in general, please keep up the effort! I would love to continue a fact-based discussion with you about multiple topics.

But FACTS don't matter to JACKAREN. Not even if they're linked to multiple orignal sources.

1kiki, if I was Republican, I could easily say that Japan had only 985 deaths, compared to 141,000 in America, because of a Mysterious X-Factor that only Asians have. Claiming X exists would exonerate Trump. It doesn't have to exist in reality in order to make Trump voters feel good in their heads about Trump. From the article www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53188847 :

Tokyo University professor Tatsuhiko Kodama - who studies how Japanese patients react to the virus - believes Japan may have had Covid before. Not Covid-19, but something similar that could have left behind "historical immunity".

He thinks it is possible a Sars-like virus has circulated in the region before, which may account for the low death rate, not just in Japan, but in much of China, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and South East Asia.

This has been met with some scepticism.

"I am not sure how such a virus could be restricted to Asia," says Professor Kenji Shibuya, director of Public Health at Kings College, London and a former senior adviser to the government.

Professor Shibuya does not discount the possibility of regional differences in immunity or genetic susceptibility to Covid. But he is suspicious of the idea of a "Factor X" that explains the mortality differences.

More at www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53188847

It is absolutely easy to excuse Trump's failures. "Factor X" works for Trump's Covid-19 fiasco. There are other "Factor X's" for other Trump fiascoes. Trump letting Nuclear Weapons Treaties lapse? He can get a better deal if he starts with a clean slate, which is why he let the treaties end. See how easy it is to explain away Trump failures? Trump cheating on his taxes? It is an attack on the Separation of Powers if Trump has to give his tax returns to Congress, despite him promising to publicize his taxes as soon as his IRS audit is completed. It is so very easy for Trump to handle any failure with a quick excuse.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There's a difference between a neutral dive into ALL the relevant facts in order to come closer to the truth ... as compared to your cherry-picking process in your post above, which is similar to the one that got us into Iraq. And how did that cherry-picking process work out?

Looking at all the facts v cherry-picking to support an agenda? One is better than the other.



Just saying.

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. I remember that press conference where Trump told everybody in the nation not to wash their hands.

Fuck you, Second.

If you didn't wash your hands before an overblown cold came out, you probably deserve what you get now.



And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 7:55 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. I remember that press conference where Trump told everybody in the nation not to wash their hands.

Fuck you, Second.

If you didn't wash your hands before an overblown cold came out, you probably deserve what you get now.



And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

You don't remember Trump's Covid-19 Task Force briefings, do you? Rambling and incoherent nonsense coming out of Trump. That's why Japan has only 985 deaths and Trump has 140,000 deaths.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK







Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.
And yet Cuomo's ~23% of old people dying of COVID-19 is roughly half the national average of 42%, and one fourth of DeWine's 82%. Cuomo should have tried harder to get even more old folks killed so the democrat shithole of NY that he runs could equal DeWine's republican paradise of Ohio.

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Lancet editorial blasts Trump’s ‘inconsistent and incoherent’ coronavirus response
The unsigned editorial from the Lancet concluded that Trump should be replaced. “Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics,” said the journal, which was founded in Britain in 1823.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200601122653/www.washingtonpost.com/heal
th/2020/05/15/lancet-editorial-trump-administration-coronavirus-response
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:35 AM

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Masks Off: How the Brothers Who Fueled the Reopen Protests Built a Volatile Far-Right Network

The emails played to fear. “Entire police departments are being overwhelmed by mobs of criminals bent on violence, robbery, arson, and more,” read one sent in June, as demonstrations against police brutality rocked the country. “Minnesotans have seen our peaceful streets turn violent overnight with riotous mobs,” read another, sent not long after the burning of Minneapolis’s Third Precinct. “Radical leftists … are looting in our streets, lighting buildings on fire, terrifying citizens, and murdering cops,” intoned a third. Antifa is in the streets, coming for your guns, and did you know that Nickelodeon is removing the police dog character from the hit toddler show “Paw Patrol?” (It isn’t.)

For right-wing fringe activist Ben Dorr, who sent the emails, outrage about Black Lives Matter was an easy pivot from another cause he’d been promoting. With his brothers Aaron, Chris, and Matthew, Ben Dorr helped launch protests to reopen states across the country shut down amid the coronavirus pandemic this spring. Alone or together, the four Dorr brothers started a slew of Facebook groups, joined by hundreds of thousands of members, that have helped to fuel skepticism about health precautions and pushed for states to open prematurely. In a country where the simple act of wearing a mask has become a political statement, the people who organize against masks are worth watching.

Before they began railing against public health measures, the brothers started gun rights and anti-abortion groups in multiple states, registering them as nonprofits and then paying out some of the money that they raise from donations to a for-profit direct mail company that they themselves control, according to IRS tax forms required to be filed by nonprofits.

More at https://theintercept.com/2020/07/17/dorr-brothers-coronavirus-protests/

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:14 PM

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And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.
And yet Cuomo's ~23% of old people dying of COVID-19 is roughly half the national average of 42%, and one fourth of DeWine's 82%. Cuomo should have tried harder to get even more old folks killed so the democrat shithole of NY that he runs could equal DeWine's republican paradise of Ohio.




I think he did enough.

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Lancet editorial blasts Trump’s ‘inconsistent and incoherent’ coronavirus response
The unsigned editorial from the Lancet concluded that Trump should be replaced. “Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics,” said the journal, which was founded in Britain in 1823.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200601122653/www.washingtonpost.com/heal
th/2020/05/15/lancet-editorial-trump-administration-coronavirus-response
/

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Bullshit.

We all know what he means is that everybody should just do what Democrats want. There should be zero diversity of opinion. Obey.

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Saturday, July 18, 2020 8:01 PM

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Bullshit.

We all know what he means is that everybody should just do what Democrats want. There should be zero diversity of opinion. Obey.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump has avoided giving orders. If he can convince voters that it is not his responsibility, then he gets votes from people like 6ix. If he starts giving orders, he loses their vote:

Each morning at 8 as the coronavirus crisis was raging in April, Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, convened a small group of aides to steer the administration through what had become a public health, economic and political disaster.

Seated around Mr. Meadows’s conference table and on a couch in his office down the hall from the Oval Office, they saw their immediate role as practical problem solvers. Produce more ventilators. Find more personal protective equipment. Provide more testing.

But their ultimate goal was to shift responsibility for leading the fight against the pandemic from the White House to the states. They referred to this as “state authority handoff,” and it was at the heart of what would become at once a catastrophic policy blunder and an attempt to escape blame for a crisis that had engulfed the country — perhaps one of the greatest failures of presidential leadership in generations.

Over a critical period beginning in mid-April, President Trump and his team convinced themselves that the outbreak was fading, that they had given state governments all the resources they needed to contain its remaining “embers” and that it was time to ease up on the lockdown.

In doing so, he was ignoring warnings that the numbers would continue to drop only if social distancing was kept in place, rushing instead to restart the economy and tend to his battered re-election hopes.

Casting the decision in ideological terms, Mr. Meadows would tell people: “Only in Washington, D.C., do they think that they have the answer for all of America.”

I have seen how the governor of Texas handles Covid-19. I see he has no answers. He says don't blame me -- I'm not President, frequently. At least 25 other governors also have no answers.

www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-fail
ure-leadership.html


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Saturday, July 18, 2020 10:07 PM

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The longer this goes on, maybe Kiki will realize that she's standing on the same side of the line as Ted, Marcos, Second and all of the true deplorables on the mask issue.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:28 AM

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The longer this goes on, maybe Kiki will realize that she's standing on the same side of the line as Ted, Marcos, Second and all of the true deplorables on the mask issue.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm

The Republican governor of Maryland painted a damning portrait of the Trump administration's handling of the coronavirus. "I'd watched as the president downplayed the outbreak's severity and as the White House failed to issue public warnings, draw up a 50-state strategy, or dispatch medical gear or lifesaving ventilators from the national stockpile to American hospitals. Eventually, it was clear that waiting around for the president to run the nation's response was hopeless; if we delayed any longer, we'd be condemning more of our citizens to suffering and death. So every governor went their own way, which is how the United States ended up with such a patchwork response."
www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/opinions/weve-never-been-here-before-column-gal
ant/index.html


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Sunday, July 19, 2020 9:53 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Bullshit.

We all know what he means is that everybody should just do what Democrats want. There should be zero diversity of opinion. Obey.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump has avoided giving orders. If he can convince voters that it is not his responsibility, then he gets votes from people like 6ix. If he starts giving orders, he loses their vote:

Each morning at 8 as the coronavirus crisis was raging in April, Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, convened a small group of aides to steer the administration through what had become a public health, economic and political disaster.



T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Trumps real wall...


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Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:00 AM

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T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:37 AM

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The Communists were out in full force in this thread this morning I see.

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 4:54 PM

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Sounds to me like she wasn't brainwashed by Marxists.

Good for her.

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:01 PM

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T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:06 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And yet Cuomo's ~23% of old people dying of COVID-19 is roughly half the national average of 42%, and one fourth of DeWine's 82%. Cuomo should have tried harder to get even more old folks killed so the democrat shithole of NY that he runs could equal DeWine's republican paradise of Ohio.

Quote:


I think he did enough.

Then DeWine did 4X too much, because he killed 4X as many old folks in his republican paradise as Cuomo did in his democratic shithole.

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:13 PM

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How exactly did he kill anybody?

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:15 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


How did Cuomo kill anybody?

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