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STUPIDNYM - because doing the mannequin challenge with real dead people would have been better? Geezus - someone open a window.

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Obviously, you ...

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So now you have actual, real knowledge. The world will open up for you once you go beyond the superficial.

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"Here's a helmet and a vest - now stand over there next to the guys with the flag, say "cheese!"

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Yep! It's not as stupid as the White Helmet mannequin challenge, which shows them "rescuing" an "injured" young man who is covered with "dust" (flour) and "trapped in" (lightly sprinkled with) rubble.

The White Helmets actually had to apologize for that one!

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Oh yes, the 'mannequin challenge!' Because nothing says 'humanitarian' goals like creating fake videos!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Because doing the mannequin challenge was pointless, and - worse- opened up the view that heart-rending videos an be utterly faked, even by the "White helmets" (i.e "good guys")

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Dumb-ass, google mannequin challenge if you don't know what it is. It's nothing to do with creating fake news.

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Oh yes, the 'mannequin challenge!' Because nothing says 'humanitarian' goals like creating fake videos!

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/24/middleeast/mannequin-challenge-white-hel
mets-syria/

Syria's White Helmets apologize for Mannequin Challenge video

London (CNN)It's a familiar scene: Syria Civil Defence, also known as the "White Helmets," rushing to rescue a man covered in rubble, but unlike thousands of other videos from Aleppo, this one is staged.
The short video -- a take on the Mannequin Challenge -- was created by the Revolutionary Forces of Syria (RFS), an opposition media group ...

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Well, cupcake, I said fake VIDEOS, not fake NEWS.

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As for doing a google search on mannequin challenge syria , this was the first hit:

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So, no apology for misrepresenting my post? Of course not!

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AND IN THE PANTHEON OF DISHONEST ARGUMENTS , HERE KRAPPO IS IMPUTING TO ME A STATEMENT I NEVER MADE, WHICH IS CALLED A 'STRAW-MAN ARGUMENT'.

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It invites the question - if these events could be staged, what about others? It puts ALL OTHER VIDEOS claiming to be genuine into question.

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I don't have time to go though them at the moment.

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Aaaaand ... you're quoting the NYT. The one that had to write a mea culpa for crappy reporting not two weeks ago.

You're both too stupid to be believed.

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They "had to?"

Obviously that's incorrect. They felt a responsibility to do so but they didn't have to. I don't expect someone who has as low a sense of personal integrity - especially about the Truth - to understand that though.

Probably 95% of the media outlets got that one wrong big time, and of course many will not own up to that - so especially in context, it was totally unnecessary on their part. Hell, even Kiki got it wrong.

Sorry, Trump propaganda outlets saying he would win just don't count.

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Looked at the vids and I had to wonder if these were self-posted. Because I've never heard so many Allahu Akbars since I saw self-posted terrorist attacks. Yeah, I know it means God is greatest but it seems to have lost its religious meaning lately and become more of a terrorist meme.

So what up?

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No one in their right mind would watch those videos and see swarms of terrorists. Those people are not terrorists, they're PEOPLE.= KRAPO
SIGNYM doesn't do *other people.*- GSTRING

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In the meantime... "as Syrian and Russian Coalition forces kill innocent Syrians Iraqis."

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I've been keeping track of the number of civilians evacuating east Aleppo... - SIGNY
Right, sure you have. How have you been doing that exactly?- GSTRING

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The UN had suggested yet another "cease fire" several days ago, which the "rebels" would have used to regroup and re-arm (as they have in the past). The UN has never backed the Syrian plan of evacuating active "rebels" from Aleppo- SIGNY

Right - Syria knows that anyone who is being shot at would take downtime to regroup - naturally. GSTRING

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So they try and finagle a "safe evacuation" plan so they can slaughter them on the way out. - GSTRING

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The UN is not specifically a humanitarian organization, but they don't support slaughter either.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=54896#.WElbghRiMy4

9 September 2016 – Welcoming a new understanding on cessation of hostilities in Syria, announced today at the end of a marathon meeting between senior officials from United States and Russia, United Nations Special Envoy for Syria Staffan De Mistura has said that the UN would do "whatever it can" to support an early restoration of the cessation of hostilities.

“The UN hopes that the political will that led to this understanding is sustained. It creates a real window of opportunity which all relevant actors in the region and beyond should seize to put the crisis in Syria on a different path and ease the violence and suffering being endured by the Syrian people,” said Mr. De Mistura, in a statement issued today."

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Maybe you are saying the UN supports ISIL and AL QAEDA?- GSTRING

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You really need to stop bringing you "Z" game to these threads. GSTRING

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What KIKI said: I was struck by the fact that they were dragging and hand-carrying "victims" out of the rubble to .... wherever. But anybody with a modicum of training knows that you should put victims on a backboard. Anything will do- a door, a plank of wood. There was no care for possible spinal injuries.

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What KIKI said: I was struck by the fact that they were dragging and hand-carrying "victims" out of the rubble to .... wherever. But anybody with a modicum of training knows that you should put victims on a backboard. Anything will do- a door, a plank of wood. There was no care for possible spinal injuries.

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Well, that and the fake 'CPR' being 'given'. The lack of bruising on anyone. No broken bones. In fact, no significant visible injuries anywhere on anyone.

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Does anyone here believe for a moment that 1kiki was an EMT?

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I couldn't help but notice you just added more bull shit to the board. - GSTRING

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You are one sick pos.-GSTRING

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Does anyone here believe for a moment that 1kiki was an EMT? From EMT to commie troll. - THUGR

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The Syrian army has stopped “active military activities” against militants in the city of Aleppo, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov announced Thursday refering to the fact that this is needed to allow civilians to withdraw from the battleground. The statement was made on the sidelines of a meeting of ministers from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE).

Lavrov made the announcement following the meeting with US State Department Secretary, John Kerry on the Syrian issue.

Another unilateral ceasefire by Syrian government forces in Aleppo has already caused a sceptical reaction among the expert community interested in the Syrian conflict. Many believe that Aleppo militants will sabotage again the withdrawal of civilians from the city because militants need the local population as a human shield against government forces and as a reason of constant diplomatic and media pressure on Syria and Russia.

Another important question raised by Syrian experts is: Was the Russian decision to push the unilateral ceasefire related to Washinton’s alleged attempts to save US intelligence and special service members from the Aleppo pocket? On Tuesday Al-Hadas news agency reported, citing own source, that the negotiations were aimed to assist US spies, including an intelligence officer embedded with militants and an informant named Balal Abdel Karim to leave Aleppo.

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U.S.-led coalition in Iraq and Syria acknowledges 54 civilians killed in airstrikes

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20 civilian deaths blamed on coalition airstrike near Raqqa
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/11/10/world/20-civilian-deaths-b
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But anyway. Let me point out that the report of casualties comes from the SOHR, which you have trashed repeatedly and at length and called unreliable. - KRAPO

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Over a 6 and a half month period. That's like Putin and Assad's daily death toll.- KRAPO

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Opposition groups blocking civilians from fleeing east Aleppo: UN https://www.yahoo.com/news/opposition-groups-blocking-civilians-fleein
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Vetted by the USA military. US-led coalition confirms 54 more civilian deaths in air strikes against Isis in Iraq and Syria.

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Now, here is something to chew on: Russian MOD just yesterday said that they have had NO ... let me repeat NO ... air operations over Aleppo since October. I wish I could find that statement again, it is very intriguing. Now either activists on the ground have been deliberately misreporting what's going on in east Aleppo, or the Russian MOD has unimaginably large brass balls, or people on the ground are confusing artillery strikes with air strikes, or Syrian airstrikes with Russian ones, but there was definitely something hinky going on with the reportage from (what used to be) the terrorist enclave.

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LOL that you can't bring yourself to think, or at least type, that the Russian government may be lying

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Now, here is something to chew on: Russian MOD just yesterday said that they have had NO ... let me repeat NO ... air operations over Aleppo since October. I wish I could find that statement again, it is very intriguing. Now either activists on the ground have been deliberately misreporting what's going on in east Aleppo, or the Russian MOD has unimaginably large brass balls*, or people on the ground are confusing artillery strikes with air strikes, or Syrian airstrikes with Russian ones, but there was definitely something hinky going on with the reportage from (what used to be) the terrorist enclave.

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http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/12/09/us-military-admits-we-deli
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US Military Admits: We Deliberately Bombed a Hospital in Iraq

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LOL that you can't bring yourself to think that EVERYBODY lies.

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Freaking break through! I've been trying to convince you of that for over 2 freaking years! I've also said: EVERYBODY - especially governments - LIE! That's why you defending Russia / Russia & Assad has been so much SIGNUTS BS. Fine, don't listen to me, listen to YOURSELF (f*cksake).

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I'll be damned if Siggy/kiki ever internalise the idea that "everyone lies" to the extent that they apply any kind of critical thinking to their reading/watching of Russian state-owned media, and the pro-Russia blogs that parrot it. - KRAPO

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Pretty much all of rebel or formerly rebel Aleppo looks like this. We may never know how many thousands of civilians died, caught up in this carnage. =KRAPO

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ISIS terrorists seized the ancient city of Palmyra from Syrian government forces. The terrorist group also took control of Biyarat, Dawah and Hayyan oil facility west of Palmyra after a series of clashes with the Syrian army and the National Defense Forces (NDF). Terrorists also attacked the Qadri farms and shelled government forces in the outskirts of the Tayfor Airbase. Heavy clashes were also at the Tiyas village near the Tayfor Airbase, but the Syrian army repelled ISIS attacks there.

ISIS was able to achieve all these gains despite massive airstrikes by the Syrian Air Force and the Russian Aerospace Forces. Only Russian warplanes and helicopters have delivered over 150 airstrikes on ISIS terrorists near Palmyra since Saturday. On Saturday, the Russian Defense Ministry reported that eleven battle tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, 31 cars with heavy machineguns, and over 300 militants were destroyed.

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Government forces are now regrouping and deploying reinforcements in the area west of Palmyra and conducting a pre-emptive shelling of ISIS units before the counter-attack.

ISIS has a 4,000-strong attack force in the area and is readying to continue the advance. In Palmyra it has seized a high number of military equipment from government forces and Russian military advisers.

The breakthrough and rapid advancement of the ISIS took place due to fundamental mistakes of commanders of units of the Syrian Army and the NDF

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, deployed in the Palmyra area, who just let their guard down. They did not pay due attention to fortification activities, processes of equipping positions with engineering and combat hardware, as well as were carelessness during tactical reconnaissance and assessment of the forces and means of attackers.

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As a result, commanders did not report the all necessary information to the higher command in Damascus on time, thereby, deluding it. However, this fact does not remove the responsibility from the central command and the Russian assist and advise mission.

There are several reasons, which explain the emergence of so many mistakes at one and the same time:

Wrong informing from outlying areas;
Negligence in reconnaissance;
Focusing of the attention on the military operation in the city of Aleppo;
Unexpected redeployment of new ISIS units from Iraq to Syria, as well as involvement of the most experienced ISIS commanders of the senior and middle levels in the offensive;
Unexpected large number of suicide bombers, involved in the operation.

Meanwhile, clashes continued in the city of Aleppo where government forces renewed the military operation amid the collapsing ceasefire efforts by Russia. The army its allies liberated Al-Asilah, Ma`adi and Bab al Maqam. Heavy clashes also took place in Sheikh Saeed. However, December 12 morning, government forces were in the control of the area.

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"Yesterday evening, we received further deeply disturbing reports [From whom?] that numerous bodies were lying on the streets," Mr Colville added, while admitting it was hard to verify the reports.

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“Desperation is when people would rather flee to their deaths than allow the bombs and starvation come to them,” Ammar Salmou, director of the Aleppo Civil Defense [aka "White Helmets" i.e. al Qaeda affiliates] told Syria Direct on Tuesday. - SyraiDirect

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