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Obama gay ? ( no, not PirateNews ) But seriously, where's PN on this one ?
Monday, May 14, 2012 11:21 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Monday, May 14, 2012 11:57 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Monday, May 14, 2012 12:04 PM
WHOZIT
Monday, May 14, 2012 12:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Good gawd, you really ARE gtting desperate! Get some help, for heaven's sake!
Monday, May 14, 2012 12:23 PM
BYTEMITE
Monday, May 14, 2012 12:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: PN's been calling Obama gay for like six months, possibly longer. I think he posted recently with a title to that effect, about this very cover. Something about Obama being a bundle of sticks? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=51901] Oh my, you're quite right on this one. I must really have a blind spot for PN nonsense. No excuse, though. I can see how Niki thinks I lost my marbles on this one. " We're all just folk. " - Mal " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall "The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
Monday, May 14, 2012 1:36 PM
Quote:As Obama closes in on the Oval Office, a theme that has already been absorbed into the media mind is the McCain campaign’s “messiah” attack (launched by Team McCain’s “The One” ad[/u). While raising anxieties about a President Obama’s exercise of power, framing Obama as an aspiring deity also works like a red cape in the face of the Christian right by flaunting the notion Obama somehow sees himself as a God, God himself, or, the son of God.
Quote:Sometimes magazine publishers and their photo-illustrators are too clever by half. I appreciate the desire to visually punctuate Obama’s support for gay marriage (even if he was pushed on by him his “team of rivals”). I also get the pressure to sell magazines (and maybe try to one-up TIME for its viral breastfeeding cover last week). Still, crowning Obama the “Gay Messiah,” as Bag contributor Karrin Anderson writes:Quote:“…not only plays on stereotypes of him as self-righteous and messianic, but actually runs counter to the spirit of Andrew Sullivan’s article. (Sullivan, though Catholic, has always heralded secularism in politics.)”Even if inadvertent, this illustration picks up an Obama attack meme which was played pretty hard in 2008. In light of that history, and because the image is so freighted religiously, I can just imagine someone as astute about imagery and ideology as Karl Rove taking one look, sitting back smugly, and uttering: “holier than thou.” http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/2012/05/not-the-one-again-our-take-on-the-newsweek-obama-gay-messiah-cover/ I know where the "Obama as messiah" campaign came from, which is why the right has so latched onto it and persevered with it, despite any evidence to the contrary--which of course explains why YOU've latched onto it and keep bringing up one remark from 2009 (it IS 2012, you know). Now I understand all that, it's no longer interesting. Newsweek is off the rails. Thomas is a nutbag with some kind of Obama complex. You are a walking parrot of right-wing idiocy trapped in an apparently increasingly desperate need to both get attention and find something...ANYTHING...to put anyone and anyTHING on the left down. I'll look for threads with more substance now, and leave you to your imaginings.
Quote:“…not only plays on stereotypes of him as self-righteous and messianic, but actually runs counter to the spirit of Andrew Sullivan’s article. (Sullivan, though Catholic, has always heralded secularism in politics.)”
Monday, May 14, 2012 1:57 PM
Monday, May 14, 2012 3:35 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Monday, May 14, 2012 5:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: PN beat you to it, by days. You're really slipping in your dotage. Maybe you should go do something constructive.
Monday, May 14, 2012 8:57 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:50 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:05 AM
Quote:Are you kidding me? I get that Andrew Sullivan is a man with an agenda and I completely support his right to make his opinions heard. I also understand that Newsweek – like any other publication – is in business to make a profit and that frequently involves pushing the envelope in terms of catching the public’s attention. But at what point is too much simply too much? When is the shark definitively jumped and the daily bread burned past any reasonable definition of being toast? Ladies and gentlemen, this would be that point.
Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:31 AM
Quote:As of 1999, 20% of Americans believe the sun revolves around the Earth!!
Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:06 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: PN's been calling Obama gay for like six months, possibly longer.
Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: We really are America the Ignorant, in so many ways, but particularly this: 21 percent of Americans believe there are real sorcerors, conjurers, and warlocks out there. 4 in ten people still believe Obamacare has death panels. As of 2006, half of Americans still believed Saddam had WMD. As of August 2010, 24% still believe Obama is a Muslim (another 24% "don't know" whether he's Christian or Muslim. As of 1999, 20% of Americans believe the sun revolves around the Earth!! In 2007, 33% of Americans still believed Saddam Hussein was responsible for 911 63% of young Americans can't find Iraq on a map; 9 out of 10 can't find Afghanistan. Currently, 24% of Americans believe Obama wasn't born in America So now, how many idjits out there will start believing Obama is gay? "America the Ignorant" says it all.
Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:58 AM
STORYMARK
Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:12 AM
MINCINGBEAST
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Quote:As of 1999, 20% of Americans believe the sun revolves around the Earth!! What.
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