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Originally posted by Zeek:
We had a movie day at work and that was the chosen movie. I'm so glad I was paid to see it. Otherwise I'd be even more upset. I really can't think of any redeeming qualities for the movie. It wasn't exciting. It wasn't funny. It wasn't thought provoking. It wasn't suspenseful. The best thing I can call it is CGI garbage.

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Where to begin? Well for starters Batman isn't Batman. He's emotionally unstable moron man. None of those are qualities of comic Batman. He ends up having to steal everything from Lex Luthor who was by far the better detective. That's so very very wrong. To top it off he pulls an Anakin and goes from one extreme (hating superman) to the other (besties) in the blink of an eye due to one word. Simply awful. Not Afleck's fault. Though he also didn't seem like much of a Bruce Wayne.

Superman was angsty but not horrible. He was a bit stupid in the way he walked into an obvious trap of Luthor's and later deciding that he should be the one to wield a kryptonite weapon instead of say handing it off to Wonder Woman. All for the sake of plot, but it usually helps when the plot flows naturally rather than needing characters to be stupid.

Wonder Woman was shoe horned into the movie so that they would have someone to stand toe to toe with Doomsday while Superman was off saving Lois. That's literally the only reason they crammed her into the movie. They gave her some convoluted mission of retrieving a digital photo from a server farm. She's oddly extremely proficient with technology yet doesn't understand that having a copy of a digital photo doesn't mean it's the only one. I hear people saying she was the best character and that's sad because she only had like 4 lines. Which probably means she didn't say enough to let the bad writing taint her.

Luthor had some really bad lines. Not cheesey just bad. He was also an incredibly poor scientist. He didn't bother with clean suits or testing strange alien liquids before swimming in them. He created a monster that didn't seem to have any purpose if his initial scheme worked, but luckily for him it failed so the monster had a reason to exist.

As for the story they could have cut everything with the senator and the movie would have been much more streamlined. It's basically 2 hours of shoddy setup followed by 30 minutes of CGI action.

If you thought Gods of Egypt was amazing then this one is probably right up your alley.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Zack Snyder has gone from near genius (Watchmen) to total disaster (B vs S) $250M down the drain.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I get that Ben Affleck isn't Christian Bale. That alone is enough to rub many fans the wrong way. Me? I got over it. No fan of Ben , as a rule, but I for one didn't hate the combo of he and Jeremy Irons.

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This version of Batman is suppose to be older. I suppose Bale ( one year younger than Affleck ) could have done the role, but is Michael (83) really up for another bit part ? As I recall, he was 'retired' and the original Batman was presumed dead. That's part of the problem w/ so many damn reboots and actor changes for the same character. It really does mess things up.

I suppose if you're a DC purist , or more 'into' the recent movies, this may not be so very fine viewing for you. I enjoyed it though. Not as much as I enjoyed Deadpool, nor do I suspect the upcoming Captain America movie.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Sorry, Michael Caine, who is 83 yrs old.

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I saw it today. Not great, but not as bad as reviews led me to believe. My rating would definitely be higher than the 29% from critics on Rotten Tomatoes, but below the 72% audience rating. At most a 6/10.

I don't have a problem with the dark and gritty story, but I do have a problem with the washed out color palette they chose for this and Man of Steel. Plus it was entirely too long. Not a comic reader but I know there have been B v S story lines before, just don't know how this compares. Also, they fell into the pattern of Spider-Man 3, at least one villain too many, should have left the last one for another movie. Also, the sound balance was off. Deafening during the action scenes, could hardly hear some dialog in the quieter scenes.

Anyone who was already disinclined to see it for reasons of either casting or the director's track record, just wait for something else to come along. Everyone else lower your expectations and watch it for the explosions. I'll likely never feel the need to watch it again, but look forward to WW and Justice League.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Zack Snyder has gone from near genius (Watchmen) to total disaster (B vs S) $250M down the drain.

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That's a great way to sum up how I feel about it. I was pretty amazed by Watchmen. The music, the visuals, the dialog, the way the scenes flowed. Everything was so well done. It seems like he's lost all of that in Batman vs Superman.

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Here's a great article about how botched this Batman is compared to his more standard representation: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/5-Major-Problems-I-Had-With-Batman-Dawn
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Originally posted by whozit:
The box office for B v S has dropped 70% in it's 2nd week out, it's likely because of bad word of mouth and it being trashed on social media, now everyone who said Affleck was a good pick for Batman are nowhere to be found. I'll wait for this abortion to come to cable.

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Affleck was fine, he had very little to do with the weakness of the film. I lay the blame squarely on Snyder, Goyer and Terrio.

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The box office for B v S has dropped 70% in it's 2nd week out, it's likely because of bad word of mouth and it being trashed on social media, now everyone who said Affleck was a good pick for Batman are nowhere to be found. I'll wait for this abortion to come to cable.

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I thought Ben actually a good job. Better than I thought he would. It's just weird to have Bale do such a good job, and then have yet another reboot...so soon.

I guess if I have to takes sides, I'm more of a Marvel fan, but that's not cast in stone. I just like their stories / main characters more.

But what kinda irked me was how EVERY report kept harping on how well the movie did at the box office, DESPITE getting panned by the know it all 'critics '. It was as if we were told " All these idiots kept seeing the movie, even after we told them not to ! " .

I felt like I'd go see SW and Deadpool again, but I guess I'll wait till they come on the small screen now. Just not psyched to go see a 12-15 dollar flick, for a 2nd time.

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Anyone who watched up the the very last second could answer that question, although it is something I have not seen mentioned in any review or comment about the movie yet.

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