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Monday, June 8, 2015 8:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"For the record I wouldn't rule out a messy Greek default myself, but for different reasons, e.g. Greece's crazy, far-left populist government."

I'm really curious if you can outline how an alternative to default is even possible, irrespective of government.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, June 8, 2015 9:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Anything intelligent to post?

Greece may reject austerity; does a Grexit follow?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58938




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Thursday, June 11, 2015 9:55 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Fareed Zakaria: Saudia Arabia won't get a nuke in the next 10 years, regardless of Iran, because it can't- http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/saudi-arabias-nuclear-bluff/201
5/06/11/9ce1f4f8-1074-11e5-9726-49d6fa26a8c6_story.html



It's not personal. It's just war.

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Friday, June 12, 2015 9:22 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


A prediction I missed, back in March 2014, soon after the toppling of Yanukovich:


kiki: "I too expect the current 'temporary' government to suspend elections"


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Monday, June 15, 2015 12:45 PM

SIGNYM

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For the record I wouldn't rule out a messy Greek default myself, but for different reasons, e.g. Greece's crazy, far-left populist government.
If a government is "populist", does that mean it reflects the will of the people? Because if it does, that means that the Greek PEOPLE are "crazy" and "far-left".

Or is this a word that needs more careful definition?

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Thursday, July 2, 2015 5:26 PM

KPO

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Originally posted by kpo:

I predict Signy and kiki will not like the conclusions of the official MH17 report when it comes out.





Shock, Russia doesn't like the way the official MH17 investigation is going (I wonder why?) - http://news.yahoo.com/russia-dissatisfied-mh17-report-dutch-safety-boa
rd-134954305.html


My prediction over Signy and kiki not liking the findings of the official report is looking good...

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Friday, July 3, 2015 6:59 AM

SIGNYM

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Yanno, that's a REALLY stupid prediction. You want to know why? Of course not, but I'm going to tell you anyway: Because you have no way of knowing whether or not what you predict actually happens or not, unless you presume to know what I feel about specific events. (Assuming I feel anything at all.)

Of course, not knowing how I feel or what I think (or what I've written, apparently) has never stopped you, G, THUGR, RAPPY, or GEEZER from putting words in my mouth before, so ... hey, why not now too? For you, it's SOP!

Next time, try predicting something real - or at least something verifiable.



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Friday, July 3, 2015 8:09 AM

KPO

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, that's a REALLY stupid prediction. You want to know why? Of course not, but I'm going to tell you anyway: Because you have no way of knowing whether or not what you predict actually happens or not,


I'll know when the report is released and you and Kiki start threads attacking it, duh.

Of course now that I've predicted this maybe you will have to bottle up your sense of injustice at what the report says and bite your tongue... Either way I win

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Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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For the record I wouldn't rule out a messy Greek default myself, but for different reasons, e.g. Greece's crazy, far-left populist government.
If a government is "populist", does that mean it reflects the will of the people? Because if it does, that means that the Greek PEOPLE are "crazy" and "far-left".

Or is this a word that needs more careful definition?


No further comment?

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Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:25 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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For the record I wouldn't rule out a messy Greek default myself, but for different reasons, e.g. Greece's crazy, far-left populist government.
If a government is "populist", does that mean it reflects the will of the people? Because if it does, that means that the Greek PEOPLE are "crazy" and "far-left".

Or is this a word that needs more careful definition?


No further comment?



Populists can be 'popular' but the words don't mean the same thing.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2015 11:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:33 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:


How expansive.

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Friday, July 10, 2015 7:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh, I was going to make a nasty comment on how KPO can tell me what a word MIGHT SOMETIMES mean, but can't give me a definition. And that despite his attempts to appear like some "balanced" thinker, he's really just polishing propaganda-turds. But then I decided it was just trolling, and with too much Americanism for KPO to understand.



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Wednesday, July 15, 2015 5:39 PM

KPO

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SHOCK:

Dutch MH17 report blames Russia-backed rebels for shooting down of passenger plane - http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/15/politics/mh17-pro-russian-missile-cr
ash-ukraine/index.html?sr=cnnitw


Very timely, with the anniversary coming up, that the whole world (especially the relatives of the victims) knows who was responsible.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by kpo:
SHOCK:

Dutch MH17 report blames Russia-backed rebels for shooting down of passenger plane - http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/15/politics/mh17-pro-russian-missile-cr
ash-ukraine/index.html?sr=cnnitw


Very timely, with the anniversary coming up, that the whole world (especially the relatives of the victims) knows who was responsible.


I thought half the people on your side of the fence said that's just crazy talk.
Who is it again that believes everything cnn says?

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Monday, July 20, 2015 5:40 AM

KPO

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Russia will veto any resolution to have a UN Security Council tribunal to prosecute the perpetrators of MH17


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Monday, July 20, 2015 10:16 AM

SIGNYM

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Probably. KPO, just OOC do you remember what I've been saying all along about MH17 and the investigation?

Don't go off half-cocked because of something on social media. There are a lot of alternate theories out there. Let the investigation do its work, it has access to information that we don't have, including physical pieces of the plane. There is a lot of evidence to be analyzed, including analysis of munitions fragments and other physical data.

The report isn't out yet, this is a leaked draft sent out to solicit comments and corrections from various interested parties. I don't expect the final result to change, but it might. Hopefully, that evidence will come out along with the report.

The various entities have been positioning themselves for the last month or so: Russian military has its position (shot down by a second plane), the BUK manufacturers have theirs, even Kiev has it's position (They were saying that the truth will never come out because Rotterdam has too much trade with Russia to offend the bear).

But the best interpretation I heard so far was that this reports will be like the Kennedy assassination and 9-11 reports: endlessly debated. Personally, I think 9-11 was a LIHOP (let it happen on purpose) and Oswald would never have been able to get all those shots off by himself.



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Monday, July 20, 2015 11:01 AM

KPO

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do you remember what I've been saying all along about MH17 and the investigation?

All of the RT talking points. Don't rush to judgement, consider all the other harebrained theories in Russian media, incriminating videos of Buks driving around don't count as evidence for some reason, wait for the report to be published (as if you'll accept its findings!!), etc etc

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Let the investigation do its work

Let a UN tribunal do its work as well - unless Putin has something to hide, in which case veto it.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Monday, July 20, 2015 11:27 AM

SIGNYM

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do you remember what I've been saying all along about MH17 and the investigation?- SIGNY

All of the RT talking points. Don't rush to judgement, consider all the other harebrained theories in Russian media, incriminating videos of Buks driving around don't count as evidence for some reason, wait for the report to be published (as if you'll accept its findings!!), etc etc



When the western press (including your favorite, bellingcat, and Israel) was vociferously blaming Assad, I said the same things about the Syrian gas attack- there is physical evidence to be collected and analyzed: trace stabilizers and contaminants which point to specific manufacturers, shells (either of standard manufacture, or a hodge-podge of parts), etc. Funny thing is, after MI6 did a chemical analysis of the sarin residue, western governmental voices have gone quiet - to the point of inaudibility- on the topic.

Same thing with Iraq so-called WMD. Hans Blix was on the ground, collecting evidence. It was USA bombing that drove him out, on wave of American propaganda and fear-mongering. We should have collectively stuck with relying on evidence, not what the news media said, because it's quite clear that governments lie- including yours, and ours. IF the MH17 evidence is released, THEN I'll have a chance to look it over. If the evidence is patchy, and the gaps are filled with assumptions and suppositions, then I'll probably reject the findings, just as I rejected the 9-11 Commission and the Warren Report. If OTOH the evidence is solid, then I'll accept it.


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Let the investigation do its work- SIGNY
Let a UN tribunal do its work as well - unless Putin has something to hide, in which case veto it.-KPO


As I read the objection, the problem with setting up a tribunal NOW - BEFORE the final report has been released and the relevant nations have had a chance to comment - is that it puts one of the parties to the investigation in conflict with the investigation, which is not yet concluded. In other words, if Russia is named as the defendant, it taints their role in the investigation. Whatever evidence that they may yet provide, or whatever comments on the draft report they may have, will either be tainted by their role as a defendant, or be muzzled by their role as a defendant. It's a matter of sequence - what comes first. I know you're all hot to find Russia GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY! by any means possible and without delay, but just be a little more lawyerly about it.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2015 8:29 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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Funny thing is, after MI6 did a chemical analysis of the sarin residue, western governmental voices have gone quiet - to the point of inaudibility- on the topic.

This sounds like something from one of the blogs that you read.

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If OTOH the evidence is solid, then I'll accept it.

You will say whatever the Russian government says, and whatever you can think up on your own to support the Russian government.

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the problem with setting up a tribunal NOW - BEFORE the final report has been released...It's a matter of sequence

It's a matter of spin, and clutching at straws. What about AFTER the report has been released, will you support a UN tribunal then, or will you take Russia's side?

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Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:29 AM

SIGNYM

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This sounds like something from one of the blogs that you read.
That's funny, coming from a guy who sounds like bellingcat.

feel free to look up everything you can find about sarin in Syria. AFA what I said about sarin and the kind of evidence that is available, it wasn't from a blog, it comes from my experience working on a DoD project about detection of chemical weapons. AFA looking at evidence, I review detailed technical reports ALL of the time, and the most interesting (and dishonest) parts are the missing ones.

Do you have any similar knowledge about ... anything?

No, of course not. You only know what Twitter tells you. You have no analytical capability. No wonder you're reduced to making irrelevant/ unverifiable "predictions".



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Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:25 AM

KPO

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Originally posted by kpo:
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Auraptor - "Glenn Beck says to buy gold! He just may be onto something."


Gold price today, per ounce:

$1,288.50
€964.27

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Gold price today, per ounce:

$1,222.10
€958.53

I guess it's a long term investment...

It's not personal. It's just war.


Gold price today, per ounce:

$1168.50
€937.22

It's not personal. It's just war.


Gold price today, per ounce:

$1090.80
€1001.08

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by kpo:
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Originally posted by kpo:
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Originally posted by kpo:

Auraptor - "Glenn Beck says to buy gold! He just may be onto something."


Gold price today, 6 August 2014, per ounce:

$1,288.50
€964.27


Gold price today, 25 September 2014, per ounce:

$1,222.10
€958.53

I guess it's a long term investment...


Gold price today, 30 November 2014, per ounce:

$1168.50
€937.22


Gold price today, 22 July 2015, per ounce:

$1090.80
€1001.08


Edited for useful relevant data. Feel free to quote this post, and just delete the "quote from" me part.

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Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JO753:
Interesting stuff. In sum other universe in wich I moved to Wall Street wen I wuz 18, I'm all about that shiz. Here, I'm just a poor working chump with the foolish notion that making real products shoud be a lucrativ endevour. Therefor, I never had any money to invest.


Sorry for the delay in mentioning this - I was trying at that time to post replies over several days.

Never have money to invest? If you have one of most types of retirement funds, likely you are either invested in the market or have the option to be invested in one of the market funds through your retirement account, and likely tax-deferred.

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Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JO753:
I rate it excellent. How did you know?


Prior to Obamanomics, the trigger hit end of Jan.


Sorry, I was running out of time.

For the century prior to Obamanomics ruining the US Economy, there was an excellent triggering indicator for significant Bear market. I was highly interested in this during the late 80s and all of the 90s, since I wanted to know when to time the market to avoid Bear. I wanted to partake in Bull, and avoid Bear.
Take the high market closing price of DJIA. Whenever a Bear market is about to hit, it will be predicated by a 15% drop from the high of the cycle. Then, at least historically, there will be a profit-taking bump, followed by the Bear.
During the 80s, before the juggernaut of Reaganomics took full effect, DJIA was at 777.
By early 2001 the DJIA had already hit a high of about 12,000. I think it was about April 2001 when the Dow dropped to about 10,200 - or at least 15% below it's high. I didn't notice until May or June, and at the time I had restrictions on my retirement account with something like a 2 month delay before interfund transfers could take effect. Plus I was away from home for a month, and my passwords were at home. However, I did inform friends and coworkers that a Bear market was imminent. Those that took my advice got out in July. My sellout took effect in August, with Dow still above 10,000. I forget how high the bump was, something like 8%, which I missed out on. By September 10th, Dow was dropping rapidly and under 10,000.

Those who took my advice did not lose the 45% of their life's savings like most did. I got a lot of free dinners in 2002 and 03.

In October 2007 the Rock the Vote Congress' first budget took effect, Dow peaked at 14,000.


Ran out of time again.
At the end of Jan 2008, like 28th or so, DJIA dropped to about 12,460 - or a 15% drop.
Now, the concern for me was, this was now the era of computer trading, and programs. Previously the bump and subsequent Bear took months, but could this all happen in a matter of weeks or days? So I got out around 4 or 6 Feb, and missed out on the profits of 6-8% during Feb and March.

So, me and the friends who listened to me in 2001 saved about 40% of our money (actually, we earned that 40% when we got back in at the bottom of Bear), and rode the wave from about 7,400 up to 14,000 - and then again saved in 2008 about 55% of our money, and again rode the wave from about 5 or 6,000 in 2009 up to, what, 17,000 now?

But under Obamanomics, the market is no longer a US economy, and may never be again.


I somewhat misstated the summary figures when I posted this. I may have been trying to simplify it, but for those who are or were trying to pay attention, I should clarify.

11,723 close on 14 January, 2000.
7,286 close on 9 October, 2002.
14,164 close on 9 October 2007.
12,635 close on 4 Feb, 2008.
6,547 close on 9 March 2009.

From the high of about 12,000 in 2000 to the low of about 7,400 (62%) the loss was about 38%. From the bump after trigger point of about 11,000 in summer 2001, the drop was about 34%.
The gain from getting back in at the bottom was 51% from 7,400 back to 11,000. And over 94% gain to over 14,000 in 2007.
From the high of over 14K in October 2007 to the low of 6,547 in March 2009 was a loss of 54%. From the days in Feb 2008 (following the trigger) at 12,635 it was a loss of 49%.
The gain from getting back in at the bottom on 9 Mar 2009 and riding up to 12,600 was 93%, and riding back up to 14K was 116%.

So while some choose to lose 34% and 49%, others chose to obtain gains of 51% and 93& solely from those episodes.

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Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:52 PM

KPO

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AFA what I said about sarin and the kind of evidence that is available, it wasn't from a blog, it comes from my experience working on a DoD project about detection of chemical weapons. AFA looking at evidence, I review detailed technical reports ALL of the time, and the most interesting (and dishonest) parts are the missing ones.

Your experience on a DoD project doesn't make you an impartial expert, it makes you a hyper-partisan amateur with a teensy bit of exposure. And I don't care how many technical reports you've read, I'll believe your critical reading skills when I see them.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Friday, July 24, 2015 1:06 AM

SIGNYM

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AFA what I said about sarin and the kind of evidence that is available, it wasn't from a blog, it comes from my experience working on a DoD project about detection of chemical weapons. AFA looking at evidence, I review detailed technical reports ALL of the time, and the most interesting (and dishonest) parts are the missing ones.

Your experience on a DoD project doesn't make you an impartial expert, it makes you a hyper-partisan amateur with a teensy bit of exposure. And I don't care how many technical reports you've read, I'll believe your critical reading skills when I see them.

It's not personal. It's just war.

What that makes me is infinitely more experienced than you, since any number divided by zero is infinity.

*sticks tongue out*



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Monday, August 10, 2015 7:19 PM

KPO

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Russian media, and their mouthpieces on this site, will still be speculating on the possibility of 'another Maidan' a year from now, it not having happened.


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Monday, August 31, 2015 12:56 PM

SIGNYM

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Guardsman killed in protests as Ukraine MPs back more autonomy for rebel regions
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/31/us-ukraine-crisis-status-idU
SKCN0R00YV20150831


Not as I predicted. While I did predict a rebellion, it's not coming from the direction I thought. I should have known better: People who want to stroll the boulevards and sip coffee at coffee shops are not about to pick up a gun, or a hand-grenade, they're going to shelter at home or flee the country. All of the disturbances .... the firefight in the Transcarpathians, the shootings, the violent put-downs of miners strikes etc have all been from the right wing. They were the ones who petrol-bombed and shot at the riot police (not the coffee-sippers) and they're willing to be violent now, too.



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Friday, September 11, 2015 12:51 PM

BYTEMITE


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I think she (Hillary) might be violently insane. Like sometimes it just seems like there's a rage under the surface, and she also seems really dishonest. Not to mention a bit careless about some issues. She strikes me as an intelligent psychopath, one of the manipulative ones who has poor impulse control and a lack of humility or regret.

I don't even think Benghazi was a thing, but I don't trust her at all. I think she's not-so-secretly racist against middle-eastern people and will start more wars than Trump ever would, and Trump's already a disaster that way.


~Byte

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Friday, September 11, 2015 1:06 PM

SIGNYM

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If people don't run from Hillary, their tingly-spidey-sense is broken.

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Friday, September 11, 2015 3:39 PM

BYTEMITE


It's pretty vague in terms of predictions, but I still thought it might belong here.

If she doesn't get the presidency (and I hope not) but gets elected somewhere and supports a war, that might be enough to confirm.

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Monday, October 12, 2015 8:47 AM

KPO

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Signy: "I'm not a military analyst, but my view is that as long as the USA sits out the situation in Syria, the terrorists will be mopped up in Syria and Iraq in about 6 months."


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Monday, October 19, 2015 8:21 AM

KPO

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So many easy predictions that we all missed out on making about Russia's intervention in Syria...

- Russia focussing its bombing not on IS but other rebel groups, including the FSA
- The Syrian government going on the offensive not against IS but other rebel groups
- Russia's intervention making the refugee crisis dramatically worse - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34570938

All so predictable. Anyone else kicking themselves for not bothering to write them here?

Also: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60006

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 7:34 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


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I predict soylent green type products will be in use by 2020.




Did u predict planned parenthood?

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Sunday, November 8, 2015 10:42 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by kpo:



Signy:

"I'm not a military analyst, but my view is that as long as the USA sits out the situation in Syria, the terrorists will be mopped up in Syria and Iraq in about 6 months."


It's not personal. It's just war.



She has a lot of faith in her Russian Empire


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Monday, November 9, 2015 7:21 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


"Unreformed Ukraine is turning into a failed state" - a bit strong, but convincing argument: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-11-06/unreformed-ukraine-is
-self-destructing


It's not personal. It's just war.

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Monday, November 9, 2015 7:05 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


this gril called it 3 years back


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Saturday, November 14, 2015 2:58 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Saturday, November 14, 2015 10:03 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
good website http://www.usdebtclock.org/



Jealous?


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Monday, November 16, 2015 12:15 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


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Funny that only you and George Soros knew when the market was gonna tank.



"A hundred million miracles,
a hundred million miracles,
are happening every day."



the chat out there is you ain't seen nothing yet, 'open borders w2eu'





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Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:17 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Signy, on the Paris terrorist attacks:


"THE USA. Will certainly attempt to use the tragedy to unite various European nations/ entities (like NATO) to possibly put "boots on the ground" in Syria, to take over (or at least tag along) with the Russian anti-ISIL effort and ultimately topple Assad."


It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, November 17, 2015 6:09 PM

THGRRI


I predict JAYNZTOWN will shit himself with the next wave of refugees.




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Tuesday, November 17, 2015 7:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


THGUR on a potential conflict between NATO and Russia in Syria
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There would not be a confrontation because Russia would stand down.




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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

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Tuesday, November 17, 2015 7:40 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THGUR on a potential conflict between NATO and Russia in Syria
Quote:

There would not be a confrontation because Russia would stand down.




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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.



Yep


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Thursday, November 19, 2015 2:43 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:07 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
dbl



https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/breaking-new
s-from-france-24-eight-suspected-terrorists-arrested-in-turkey-posing-as-refugees/



It's nice to see you and I agree on the evilness of DAESH, and the need for us to be tolerant of Muslims in general because most are, well as you say below, caring and hardworking people.

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..JAYNEZTOWN, Sept. 8th 2004

Hot headed reactions like these are kind of understandable. I saw much worse ideas than this Flynn guy on the Yahoo-news and MSN-news board

It's true that these Islamic terrorists are scum, and if they take human life, bomb hospitals or kill children they deserve to die.

However not all Arabs, Muslims or Islamics are like these radical nuts. Many are just ordinary folk and some don't give a damn about religion. Terrorism will always exist in some form, it is hard to defeat but it can be largely prevented.

Terrorism flourishes where there is ethnic hatred, radical political leaders, religious nuts and oppression..these are the places where it grows and gets strong.

The probelm is that some try to strike back using overkill methods only to see terror groups spring back in other places and sometimes stronger.

Take the example of Clinton, he was a bullcrap president and spent much time with Monica and cigars. However he done ok for the USA and was smart when it came to global politics and events. In Kosovo, we had different ethnic groups and races killing ecah other. Clinton was forced to act and planes bombed. Afterwards there were big problems, yet Clinton set up the smart framework so that the area would be secure, safe and free from dictators or terrorists again. Clinton also done good in parts of Asia, Northern Ireland and the Middle East.

Now take our idiot Bush, all fight but no brains instead of finding the evil Binladen and his Taliban friends Bush is off causing trouble in the Iraq. Meanwhile N-Korea is building long range Nukes that reach the west coast and Iran has a real WMD program. Terrorism flourishes where there is ethnic hatred, radical political leaders, religious nuts and oppression..these are the places where it grows and gets strong and this might be why it's now growing in Iraq, a place where Al-Quaida could not have existed some months ago as Saddam used to hatethem and other religious radicals. It seems Bush has plenty of bravado and fight in him, but no brains and tactics and no idea about peace, and security or winning the war.

There is no doubt these islamic extremists are evil and they should be killed for what they have done. However not respond by bombing a city
let's catch them , put them on trial and shoot them.

The worst thing Russia could do is play this like Bush has done, by pinning it on some other random city ( Baghdad-Iraq ) . When I speak of Clinton or Bush I don't just mean the presidents but the advisors and administartion which surrounds. Is Bush smart enough to win peace and security or are the terrorists coming back and more people going to die ?




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Friday, November 20, 2015 7:01 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Bonner dollar danger Agora Inc claim to call it correctly with predictions since the 70s


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Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:02 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


G: "Wow, according to Russian state run media it sounds like Russia will have ISIL all mopped up by turkey (heh) day.
Thanks Russia!"

Signy: "Keep that one warm. According to Russia, it will take bout 6 months. I'll let you know when the thanks become appropriate. At that point, you probably should, because it will be no thanks to the USA, France, or NATO when that day comes."

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:22 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Signy to kpo, G, THGRRI:


"I told you a month or so ago... that in a short while you would be cheering for ISIL."


It's not personal. It's just war.

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