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| THG: And you both had it wrong |
| Brenda: The last people to enter North America where the Inuk. They were the last to actually cross the ice bridge over the Bering Strait. Mine came in earlier with a group that split. Aztec, Apache, Shoshone- mine and Haida. Is the split. |
| Brenda: THG, SIX and I were talking white explorers. Men like Jacque Cartier and Columbus, Cook and Vancouver. Lewis and Clark. |
| Brenda: Enjoy your Thanksgiving tomorrow SIX. |
| Brenda: Thanks for the kind words SIX. As I said I'm not much on anyone singing my praises or even praising myself for that matter. |
| Brenda: That's like when the stories first began being told in the open about the residential schools here. The churches were being destroyed and the chiefs and elders told the young not to do it. Destroying those buildings doesn't bring anyone back or heal the scars done by those places. Every story or myth has a grain of truth in them. You have to look for it but it is there. I hope that the people 30years from now are smarter than we are at least. |
| Brenda: I've dealt with Columbus thing years ago as I learned about science and how the world formed. And how people around the world migrated to where they are now. Well, I have to admit my dad told me that I owed his brother and sisters respect because they were my elders and that was expected of me. Didn't have to like them, just give them the respect due them because they were his siblings. I give very few people my respect. Has to be earned and I think you have earned mine. |
| Brenda: I think I remember that time. It was something to do with one of your tag lines SIX and it rubbed me the wrong way and I blasted you. I'm still sensitive about stuff like that. |
| Brenda: THG, a lot of elders from many Nations say that we've always been here. Our histories are oral and they have changed over the centuries. The earliest settlement that I know of and was taught in college. Clocked in with radio carbon dating at 30,000 in South America. Science has proven that most Nations walked down the coast line of North America. There was no ocean because of the ice. There was no ice free corridor as was originally thought. Once down the coast line where there was no ice they came onto land. |
| THG:
Excuse me. I thought you were talking about who discovered America. I just showed how Indians did. Must of went over your head. No matter... |
| 6ixStringJack: And don't you go feeling obligated to say anything nice back to me, Brenda. I don't really feel comfortable when anybody sings my praises. I ain't blowing smoke up your ass. Not looking for any reciprocation. Just letting you know I appreciate ya. |
| 6ixStringJack: But nobody should be giving you shit about anything because I really believe that you don't do anything to deserve that bad karma coming your way, and I may be wrong but as far as I'm concerned you're one of the few people I believe probably hasn't ever done anything to be deserving any negative karma coming their way in your life. Don't have much faith there are many actual good guys out there or that there ever were. But nice to have a few people around that make me believe that maybe there are some. I'd say my respect don't come easy, but it usually just don't come period. At least from one internet persona to another, and the stories we tell and believe or don't about each other, you're among a very rare few that have my respect. |
| THG:
Excuse me. I thought you were talking about who discovered America. I just showed how Indians did. Must of went over your head. No matter... |
| 6ixStringJack: The only thing that ever really gets under my skin about anything surrounding that stuff is the not even disguised hatred of white men in general when another statue is toppled over. It just feels like a big middle finger directed right at me while also finding out that probably everything I'd ever been taught when I was growing up and everything we're told up until this very day is more likely a lie than it is the truth. And all I can think today is "why does anybody believe the new stories any more than they do the old stories?". 30 years from now, whatever they're telling the kids then is going sound like pure fan-fiction to us today. |
| 6ixStringJack: It wasn't even a memory of mine after watching it, but because it was said very early on that set the tone for the rest of your watch, because of course it did. Like... duh! Right? But, I really appreciate that you don't expect me personally to apologize recommending that video to you because of it. Nothing was meant by me about it. My days of crying over another lost childhood hero came to a middle a long time ago now. Christopher Columbus and pretty much any historical figure I remember being taught about in school might as well be Santa Claus or Mickey Mouse to me. |
| 6ixStringJack: And that, to me, is what respect is all about. Real respect. Earned respect. Not the manufactured respect that everyone is told that they should be giving each other based around arbitrary rules surrounding, revolving around and oftentimes just ping-ponging all over the place from every ideological box under the sun. Because of our shared post history and how well I believe I know you and have witnessed you carry yourself here, I'd feel awful knowing that I did anything that just carelessly hurt your feelings or personally insulted you. I didn't even think about the Columbus thing when recommending it here, and especially not when suggesting it strongly to you, but to be honest, I'd misinterpreted what your reaction to that might be too even if I did remember that part was in the video, probably unfairly. |
| 6ixStringJack: Yeah, Brenda. I do appreciate it. I know one time I did snap at you for something and I was having a pretty bad time of something then and in one of my angry moods. It wasn't an excuse, and I felt pretty awful about it, especially once you told me what you'd really meant and then I really felt like an asshole. You are the last person on this board that anybody should give any shit for any reason. |
| THG: Not my point. Indians from Canada and North America like to claim they didn't migrate like others. That they were just always there. They express indignation when others say not so. There has been significant migration of Indigenous peoples to Canada. Archaeological research suggests that Indigenous peoples may have arrived in North America as early as 12,000 years ago, with many migrating into Canada during the last Ice Age. I think I'll thank the Wampanoag people
The first Thanksgiving took place in 1621 at Plymouth, in present-day Massachusetts. It was a harvest feast shared between the English colonists and the Wampanoag people. This event is often celebrated as a symbol of cooperation and gratitude. |