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No shit. I'm not a fucking idiot. I know what it means. I'm speaking for the majority of idiots out there that can't Math well enough to balance their own checkbook.

I actually show that I know this in the large portion of the post that you didn't quote. You'll find that I didn't even argue the specific data in the graph, but I proved it accurate and even elaborated on it.

You either already knew that I did and ignored it when making your idiot reply, or you just ignored it in the first place.

Nothing to say about anything relevant in the rest of the post?

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Apparently "taunting Trump" is all this post is good for. It gives nothing but two squiggly lines, dumbed down to a meaningless "100" with no context surrounding it

Jesus Christ MSM... so many legitimate things you can be going after Trump for, yet you always drop the fucking ball and make shit up when you don't even have to.

Most retards that read your news aren't even going to realize that the S&P 500 chart was used in Kevin Drum's "quirky" little graph, but they don't even know the difference between the DOW and the S&P in the first place.

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Dow closes 22,118 today.

That is up 2,386 since taking office. 6 1/2 months ago.

That is a gain of over 12% so far, and over 22% per annum so far.

For those not so clued on the math concept, that is more than the 8% per year Obama did in his first 2 years - without GOP control of Congress.
And that is more than the 12% per year for Bobo's 6 years with GOP control of Congress, despite Bobo having the absolutely easiest period for economic recuperation. Now Trump is adding on top of already historic highs, a much more difficult feat.

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To the contrary, the past has thousands of different days when the market hit a new historical high.

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There is a chart at "Even the Stock Market Likes Obama Better Than Trump"
KEVIN DRUM, FEB. 8, 2018 6:41 PM

Drum writes, "I have no good reason to post this chart. I’m just taunting Donald Trump, I guess."
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/02/even-the-stock-market-likes-oba
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Kindly return to a thread where you can comprehend the concepts being discussed, which is clearly not this one.


OTOH, if somebody has a question, or can point out a logic failure, or wants better explanation or clarification, post up.

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"Savaged global stocks head for worst week since 2011" Why is this not Trump's fault?

www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets/savaged-global-stocks-head-f
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A 4 percent drop in Chinese shares dealt reeling world stock markets a fresh blow on Friday, as nerves about rising borrowing costs and soaring volatility put them on course for their worst week since the height of euro zone crisis.

China’s overnight plunge had gouged at confidence again after the second 1,000 point loss of the week for the U.S. Dow Jones Industrial had sent it into official correction territory.

Capital flow figures also showed a record $30 billion had already been yanked out of stocks during the rout, though even after that, Bank of America’s closely followed “Bull & Bear” indicator was still flashing red and warning investors to sell.

“After the moves earlier this week market investor sentiment is fragile and because of this we aren’t expecting the markets to immediately start moving higher once again,” said J.P. Morgan Asset Management Global Market Strategist Kerry Craig.

The U.S. government staggered into another shutdown after lawmakers failed to meet a funding deal deadline, but it did play into many of the overarching market concerns that have taken hold this month.

The yield on benchmark 10-year U.S. Treasuries, which tends to be the driver of global borrowing costs, was hovering at 2.86 percent just short of Monday’s four-year high of 2.885 percent.

Higher bond yields are seen hurting equities as they increase loan costs for companies and ultimately consumers. They also present an alternative to investors who may reallocate some funds to bonds from equities.

For MSCI’s broadest index of world shares, the 47-country ACWI the slump was 6.2 percent, which as long as it is still more than 6.1 percent when U.S. markets close later will be the biggest loss since September 2011.

Much more at www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets/savaged-global-stocks-head-f
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It wuz 1,172 points, the biggest drop in history. Quit being stinjy and give Trump hiz trofy!

But maybe wait a wile and see if he can beat it.

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Just how insipid are you? Are you a complete and absolute moron, pretending to have a fiscal or mathematical clue?

If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings (or 10% of your life earnings) and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?

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So, um, you are trying to blame Trump for global Stocks? For International Stocks? For the Stock prices of 47 different countries?
Does ACWI even include the US?
Unlike Obamination, I don't recall ever hearing Trump proclaim that he is King of the World, President of the World, or Arbiter of the World.
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I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?

I conjure the day or 2 after its done falling back.
So, I'll conjure Monday was the big dropback, then maybe biggest gain on Wednesday. I don't have money to wager on that, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.

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Dow closed at 24,912.
Only 2.33% gain. Room enough to gain more tomorrow.

Perhaps the bargain pricing is over.

Note: thus far, nobody else has weighed in.

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Golly, a graph that is actually pertinent, and possibly accurate.
That shows the obviously deepest drop in employment was under Obama and the Rock-The-Vote Democraps, and it is also the widest blue band (longest time) outside of that left over from Carter's disastrous Economy, which Reagan was at least able to moderate the depth of.

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So, um, you are trying to blame Trump for global Stocks? For International Stocks? For the Stock prices of 47 different countries?
Does ACWI even include the US?
Unlike Obamination, I don't recall ever hearing Trump proclaim that he is King of the World, President of the World, or Arbiter of the World.
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President Fatso did proclaim himself the King of the World. He is taking personal credit for the stock market going up. Watch the video:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ihII

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Apparently "taunting Trump" is all this post is good for. It gives nothing but two squiggly lines, dumbed down to a meaningless "100" with no context surrounding it, such as the fact that the market had already been on an overall upward trajectory for 8 years after the terrible crash of 2008 that Obama was able to benefit from once it leveled out. On top of that, it's the only time the S&P 500 has come into this thread's conversation about the DOW, as far as I know.

S&P 500 by year: http://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-historical-prices/table/by-year

Jan 1, 2009 865.58
Jan 1, 2010 1,123.58 +23%

Jan 1, 2017 2,275.12
Jan 1, 2018 2,683.73 +16%

Nobody ever talks about the S&P 500. Makes me wonder why the MSM isn't making it a household name right now since they could rub Trumps face in these stats everyday.


Here's the DOW figures for the same years: http://www.1stock1.com/1stock1_139.htm

Jan 1, 2009: 8776.39
Jan 1, 2010: 10428.05 +18.82% (After a -33.84% year in 2008)

Jan 1, 2017: 19762.60
Jan 1, 2018: 24719.22 +25.08% (After a +13.42% year in 2016 and 7 of the previous 8 years with gains as much as 26.50%, and only a single year of losses at -2.23%.)

Which also makes me wonder why aren't the MSM dismissing claims of Trumps record gains by comparing 2017 to 2013?

Or go back to 1975: 38.32%
Or 1985: 27.66%
Or 1989: 26.96%
Or 1995: 33.45%
Or 1996: 26.01%
Or 1999: 25.22%
Or 2003: 25.32%

Most retards that read your news aren't even going to realize that the S&P 500 chart was used in Kevin Drum's "quirky" little graph, but they don't even know the difference between the DOW and the S&P in the first place.

Why not just come out and say that the DJIA percentage gain under 2013 Obama administration was almost 1.5% more than Trump's 2017 gains?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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No shit. I'm not a fucking idiot. I know what it means. I'm speaking for the majority of idiots out there that can't Math well enough to balance their own checkbook.

I actually show that I know this in the large portion of the post that you didn't quote. You'll find that I didn't even argue the specific data in the graph, but I proved it accurate and even elaborated on it.

You either already knew that I did and ignored it when making your idiot reply, or you just ignored it in the first place.

Nothing to say about anything relevant in the rest of the post?

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It is Signym, not me, that goes line by line through others' posts, bitterly commenting about how Signym can see what stupid others cannot./b]

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No shit. I'm not a fucking idiot. I know what it means. I'm speaking for the majority of idiots out there that can't Math well enough to balance their own checkbook.

I actually show that I know this in the large portion of the post that you didn't quote. You'll find that I didn't even argue the specific data in the graph, but I proved it accurate and even elaborated on it.

You either already knew that I did and ignored it when making your idiot reply, or you just ignored it in the first place.

Nothing to say about anything relevant in the rest of the post?

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It is Signym, not me, that goes line by line through others' posts, bitterly commenting about how Signym can see what stupid others cannot./b]

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I suggest you at least finish reading the other person's post before making false claims against them, especially when removing the part of the post that not only agreed with yours, but further augmented your own argument.

It only makes you look like a bigger self-aggrandizing douchebag than everyone already knows that you are.

You either,
A) Lied by omission with what you quoted
or
B) Foolishly omitted the part that agreed with you while framing the rest of what was said that you didn't like to further argue.

You seem to be claiming Option B.
Option A means you're a liar. Option B means you're a fool.

Which one is it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?

I conjure the day or 2 after its done falling back.
So, I'll conjure Monday was the big dropback, then maybe biggest gain on Wednesday. I don't have money to wager on that, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.

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Dow closed at 24,912.
Only 2.33% gain. Room enough to gain more tomorrow.

Perhaps the bargain pricing is over.

Note: thus far, nobody else has weighed in.

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Looks like next week will be the week for potential big gains.
Tuesday of this week only had 2.33%.

So who thinks which day next week will have the biggest gains?

Although I suspect Wednesday, I'll say Tuesday. Although it wouldn't be the first time a Monday rally caught me by surprise.

What say you?
Btw, these would be guesses, unless you have insider knowledge.

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I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?

I conjure the day or 2 after its done falling back.
So, I'll conjure Monday was the big dropback, then maybe biggest gain on Wednesday. I don't have money to wager on that, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.

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Dow closed at 24,912.
Only 2.33% gain. Room enough to gain more tomorrow.

Perhaps the bargain pricing is over.

Note: thus far, nobody else has weighed in.

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Looks like next week will be the week for potential big gains.
Tuesday of this week only had 2.33%.

So who thinks which day next week will have the biggest gains?

Although I suspect Wednesday, I'll say Tuesday. Although it wouldn't be the first time a Monday rally caught me by surprise.

What say you?
Btw, these would be guesses, unless you have insider knowledge.

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Gosh, I almost spoke too soon. In the last 10 minutes of Trading the Dow Jumped up above 2.2% (24,382) before settling back.
A few hours before, the Dow seemed to be probing the floor of the correction, around 23,400 - down to 23,360. That was 12% below the all-time record high.
So it started up 400 points, dropped 900 points, Jumped up 1,000 points.

Dow closed at 24,190. About 9.1% off the all-time Record High. Perhaps the gift-horse buying opportunity has passed.

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It woud be a good idea to spend a few owrz reading the rumor millz if you hav alot uv money in stocks.

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This opinionator sez take your winningz and leave the table.

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I find it amusing that even though we've been witness to bubble after bubble that have burst over the course of our lives, JSF seems to think that the DOW is impervious to it.

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If everything else in my life played out the exact same way, but I had bought a house in 2005 rather than renting the whole time I had that last good job, I would have lost the home because of the inability to pay my underwater mortgage after losing the job, instead of being able to buy somebody else's mistake from the bank at nearly 1/3rd of the price it was previously purchased for.



Remember. Investing is gambling, no matter what anybody tells you. Never gamble with money you can't afford to lose.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?

I conjure the day or 2 after its done falling back.
So, I'll conjure Monday was the big dropback, then maybe biggest gain on Wednesday. I don't have money to wager on that, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.

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Dow closed at 24,912.
Only 2.33% gain. Room enough to gain more tomorrow.

Perhaps the bargain pricing is over.

Note: thus far, nobody else has weighed in.

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Looks like next week will be the week for potential big gains.
Tuesday of this week only had 2.33%.

So who thinks which day next week will have the biggest gains?

Although I suspect Wednesday, I'll say Tuesday. Although it wouldn't be the first time a Monday rally caught me by surprise.

What say you?
Btw, these would be guesses, unless you have insider knowledge.

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Gosh, I almost spoke too soon. In the last 10 minutes of Trading the Dow Jumped up above 2.2% (24,382) before settling back.
A few hours before, the Dow seemed to be probing the floor of the correction, around 23,400 - down to 23,360. That was 12% below the all-time record high.
So it started up 400 points, dropped 900 points, Jumped up 1,000 points.

Dow closed at 24,190. About 9.1% off the all-time Record High. Perhaps the gift-horse buying opportunity has passed.

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Dow closed at 24,601. Only a 1.70% gain.
Now 7.6% off the all-time Record High.

Still plenty of room for a larger gain on another day. Who thinks which day will have the biggest gain this week?

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You have apparently mistaken the hi for a real value. The recovery coud just be manipulatorz trying to get sum money back from wen it wuz over 26000 and then they'll bail out kuz they feel a big reset starting.

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A bubble is something that was artificially inflated, mostly due to speculation, and then it burst and loses most of that value. No special definition there.

We saw it happen in the housing market. It happened to the DOW before Obama even was a thing.

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A bubble is something that was artificially inflated, mostly due to speculation, and then it burst and loses most of that value. No special definition there.

We saw it happen in the housing market. It happened to the DOW before Obama even was a thing.

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hmmmm.
So that doesn't include 2001, 1987, etc.

Your definition of bubble includes the Rock-The-Vote Democrap Bear Market of FY2008, and 1929.
WOW! That is practically a regular occurrence!!
Shall we set our watches for 2087 for the next bubble to burst?

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I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?

I conjure the day or 2 after its done falling back.
So, I'll conjure Monday was the big dropback, then maybe biggest gain on Wednesday. I don't have money to wager on that, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.

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Dow closed at 24,912.
Only 2.33% gain. Room enough to gain more tomorrow.

Perhaps the bargain pricing is over.

Note: thus far, nobody else has weighed in.

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Looks like next week will be the week for potential big gains.
Tuesday of this week only had 2.33%.

So who thinks which day next week will have the biggest gains?

Although I suspect Wednesday, I'll say Tuesday. Although it wouldn't be the first time a Monday rally caught me by surprise.

What say you?
Btw, these would be guesses, unless you have insider knowledge.

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Gosh, I almost spoke too soon. In the last 10 minutes of Trading the Dow Jumped up above 2.2% (24,382) before settling back.
A few hours before, the Dow seemed to be probing the floor of the correction, around 23,400 - down to 23,360. That was 12% below the all-time record high.
So it started up 400 points, dropped 900 points, Jumped up 1,000 points.

Dow closed at 24,190. About 9.1% off the all-time Record High. Perhaps the gift-horse buying opportunity has passed.

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Dow closed at 24,601. Only a 1.70% gain.
Now 7.6% off the all-time Record High.

Still plenty of room for a larger gain on another day. Who thinks which day will have the biggest gain this week?

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Today only 0.16% gain. Clearly less than Monday's 1.70%.
Closed at 24,640 Dow.
Still plenty of room for larger gains this week. A day of settling is fairly common during rebound, and this looks like one of those.

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The real playerz will figure its definitley jammed up, so time to bail out. If not by Friday, next week.

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stock market prediction can be jeneralized this way: The higher it iz, the more ....

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I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?

I don't have money to wager, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.

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Dow closed at 24,912.
Only 2.33% gain. Room enough to gain more tomorrow.

Perhaps the bargain pricing is over.

Note: thus far, nobody else has weighed in.

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Dow closed at 24,601. Only a 1.70% gain.
Now 7.6% off the all-time Record High.

Still plenty of room for a larger gain on another day. Who thinks which day will have the biggest gain this week?

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Remember. Investing is gambling, no matter what anybody tells you. Never gamble with money you can't afford to lose.

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I get it now!

The JSF Mk VII Dow Reporter only deliverz good newz! You haf to purchase a different model to get bad newz!

Smart merchandizing stratejy, but still - Dam them! Dam them to Hell!

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You will have an opportunity to lose money by staying in the Market during a Bear drop and then selling at a low price, at some point.
But Dow 20K is not that point in the cycle.

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You will have an opportunity to lose money by staying in the Market during a Bear drop and then selling at a low price, at some point.
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Well... there it is. Good luck picking the right time. I know plenty of people in my life who swear they have a system with slot machines. This sounds just like they do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I get it now!

The JSF Mk VII Dow Reporter only deliverz good newz! You haf to purchase a different model to get bad newz!

Smart merchandizing stratejy, but still - Dam them! Dam them to Hell!

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Why pretend good news is bad news? Why pretend bad news is good news?
I have pointed out bad news, like when you tell people to stop making money, or to lose money. That is bad news.
Otherwise, I consider making money, growing your funds to be good news for fans of Firefly.

You are already providing the silly Chicken Little spin, I am merely providing Equal Time for the reasonable people.
Good thing everybody got out at Dow 20K, like Chicken Little said.

You will have an opportunity to lose money by staying in the Market during a Bear drop and then selling at a low price, at some point.
But Dow 20K is not that point in the cycle.

Since you seem to have no clue about the Stock Market, can you share with us your view of how to make money in the Stock Market? You don't want us to make money when the Bull Market is gaining. You don't want us to make money during a correction. You want us to lose money by staying out while the Market and inflation are rising around us. While a rising tide lifts all ships, you want us to be firmly anchored at the bottom of the bay with concrete shoes.
So while reasonable people are growing their funds, what is your plan or method to make money with the Stock Market? At what point do you think we should partake in the growth? The Market won't go up all the time, so most of us should ride it up when it is going up. What is your alternative method?

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You will have an opportunity to lose money by staying in the Market during a Bear drop and then selling at a low price, at some point.
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Well... there it is. Good luck picking the right time. I know plenty of people in my life who swear they have a system with slot machines. This sounds just like they do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Well... there it is. Good luck picking the right time. I know plenty of people in my life who swear they have a system with slot machines. This sounds just like they do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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In your lifetime, how many Bear Markets have you experienced? If you live/invest 20 more years, how many Bear Markets will you expect to endure?

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