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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Friday, July 29, 2022 2:58 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: The number of lies you'e told in this thread is staggering.

You'd think after a while it would become obvious TO YOU that you're regarded as a fatally twisted source of (dis)info.

There is a video, in Russian, that mocks people such as you, Signym, who constantly accuse others of lying.

https://imgur.com/gallery/Ts9HCTP

The title of the video is “No, I don’t have a dick on my forehead, you must be lying”

The video illustrates how absurd people such as Signym are, but I doubt Signym will understand. Most likely Signym will claim it is not Signym being ridiculed.

Translation of the video at https://imgur.com/gallery/Ts9HCTP

Off camera woman: Hello, could you tell me your thoughts on the fact that all Russian citizens have had dicks drawn on their forehead? What do you think about this?

Woman with dick on forehead: Oh, well, I don't really know much about the topic. I'm not a urologist, I'm a regular person. I don't know what someone drew on someone else.

Off camera: You don't need to be a urologist to understand you have a dick on your forehead. Just look in the mirror.

Woman with dick on forehead: But it's illegal now to look in mirrors, and as for what people say...you know, people say one thing and the TV says another. Who knows what is true?

Off camera: Why not ask one of your relatives? I'm looking at you and I'm telling you you have a dick on your forehead. Why would I lie?

Woman with dick on her forehead: I don't know. These days there are so many fakes, so much provocation. We can't know where the truth lies.

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Friday, July 29, 2022 6:34 PM

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Finns call for halt to 'unbearable' Russian tourism

Finland remains Russia's only EU neighbour to grant tourist visas to Russian citizens. But many Finns are unhappy with the situation, and the thought of Russians enjoying a Finnish summer while Ukrainians suffer under a brutal invasion has been met with indignation.

"It is not right that Russians can freely travel to Finland. It takes away the basis for the sanctions," local Kirsi Iljin said. "I think there should be some restrictions."

As an act of solidarity with Ukraine, Finland's conservative opposition party proposed a halt to new tourist visas for Russians this week.

"This situation is unbearable," Jukka Kopra, a National Coalition Party MP told AFP. "Ukraine's citizens are being killed, including civilians, women and children, and at the same time Russians are spending holidays in the EU."

There appears to be widespread backing for the proposal in the Finnish parliament, with MPs across party lines voicing support for visa restrictions.

"Personally, I think restrictions should be increased," said Aki Linden from the ruling Social Democrats, acting PM while Sanna Marin is away. "The matter is currently (with) the Ministry of Foreign Affairs," he told AFP.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Russia "would react very negatively" to proposed restrictions.

https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1947466.html

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Friday, July 29, 2022 7:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Shut the fuck up Second.

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Friday, July 29, 2022 8:29 PM

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Shut the fuck up Second.

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Are you still mad at Ukraine for Trump's first impeachment? That was years and years ago when President Volodymyr Zelensky dragged Trump's fat ass through the barbed wire. Get over it.

Trump impeachment: The short, medium and long story
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49800181

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Friday, July 29, 2022 9:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Shut the fuck up Second.

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Are you still mad at Ukraine for Trump's first impeachment?



Nope. That impeachment was a joke, unlike Biden*'s upcoming impeachment.


I'm just tired of hearing virtue signalling twats like you talking all day about things you don't understand is all.

How many tourism businesses in Finland do you want to destroy to sate your Putinphobia?


Get fucked, moron.

Your opinions on everything are bullshit.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 6:43 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut the fuck up Second.

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Are you still mad at Ukraine for Trump's first impeachment?



Nope. That impeachment was a joke, unlike Biden*'s upcoming impeachment.


I'm just tired of hearing virtue signalling twats like you talking all day about things you don't understand is all.

How many tourism businesses in Finland do you want to destroy to sate your Putinphobia?


Get fucked, moron.

Your opinions on everything are bullshit.

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Every fucking Trumptard I know gets upset when told his adultery will end his marriage. If the Trumptard has to think about consequences of his sex life outside of marriage, that limits the Trumptard's freedom to fuck whoever he wants, and Trumptards refuse to stay within the limits on their freedom. The Trumptards want to leave behind the boundary lines on their freedom and live in pure chaos. I picked adultery because there is not a Trumptard in Texas that keeps their marriage vows. And very few Trumptards are truthful about their adultery. They deny doing what they are doing because lying gives them freedom to keep doing it. Trump, himself, didn't live up to his vows and he has been divorced 2 times? 3 times? However many.

Anyway, Trump breaks the limits on his freedom at every chance he gets, whether it is adultery, or limits on strong-arming the President of Ukraine for Trump's political advantage, or paying his Federal income taxes. Since Trumptards are doing the same things, it is not a problem for them. Actually, it is a problem for them. The Trumptards end up divorced or lose their girlfriend. They end up bankrupt and owing taxes. They get fired from their jobs. These are all things that have happened, or almost happened, to Trump.

Even Putin could be a Trumptard. He cheated on his wife and ended up divorced. He has mistresses and bastard children. He doesn't pay his taxes. He can't even keep the simplest rules of a national leader: do not invade another country to satisfy his egotistical need to be another Peter the Great expanding the territory controlled by Russia.

Has Vladimir Putin Always Been Corrupt?
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/has-vladimir-putin-always-been-corr
upt-and-does-it-matter


Putin compares himself to Peter the Great in Russian territorial push – video
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/jun/10/putin-compares-him
self-to-peter-the-great-in-russian-territorial-push-video


Marriage, mistresses and mystery children: the private life of Putin
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/marriage-mistresses-and-mystery-chi
ldren-the-private-life-of-vladimir-putin-36s0780m0


It is to be expected that a guy like Putin would cause a $1 trillion in damage to Ukraine. Whoever gave Putin the job, which includes an army that Putin can use for whatever purpose pleases him, is a fool. That fool was Boris Yeltsin, a famous drunken Russian who died from excessive alcoholic consumption.

When a Russian President Ended Up Drunk and Disrobed Outside the White House
Was Bill Clinton's 1994 meeting with Boris Yeltsin the most hilariously awful state visit in history?
https://www.history.com/news/bill-clinton-boris-yeltsin-drunk-1994-rus
sian-state-visit


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Saturday, July 30, 2022 10:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Shut the fuck up, Second.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut the fuck up, Second.

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Says the guy who lost years to alcohol. Says the guy who lost all his teeth because he wouldn't go to the dentist. Alcoholism and toothlessness describes Russian voters who would repeatedly reelect Putin and his predecessor Boris Yeltsin. People with poor judgment, like Putin, his voters, you and every other Trumptard I know, have problems that they should have avoided, but didn't, because they want to be free to do whatever, even invade Ukraine or twist the arm of the President of Ukraine for reelection help.

By the way, Volodymyr Zelenskyy knew what a creep Trump was and refused to get involved in Trump's reelection schemes. Same thing is happening with Zelenskyy and Putin's creepy schemes to be the next Peter the Great. Completely unlike Trumptards, Zelenskyy severely restricted his personal freedom by not giving Trump and Putin what they wanted.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 11:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Shut the fuck up, Second.

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Says the guy who lost years to alcohol. Says the guy who lost all his teeth because he wouldn't go to the dentist.



What would you have me do about that, Arthur? Cry about it every day for the rest of my life and just die?

I can't change the past, but I have the power to change the future by doing right today.


Get some fucking help, lunatic. You obviously aren't capable of helping yourself.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

What would you have me do about that, Arthur? Cry about it every day for the rest of my life and just die?

I can't change the past, but I have the power to change the future by doing right today.


Get some fucking help, lunatic. You obviously aren't capable of helping yourself.

You are the same as every Trumptard I know. You learned nothing from bad experience and keep making the same mistakes, then forgiving yourself, and then after a time delay, making the same classic mistakes. It does not end well for people like you. It won't end well for Russians, who seem to have an appetite for the worst kind of rulers: Stalin, Boris Yeltsin and Putin. In America, they wanted Nixon (who was reelected despite every sign he shouldn't be), Bush II (reelected despite every sign he shouldn't be), Trump (almost reelected despite signs he shouldn't be), provably the worst kind of rulers.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 12:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
You are the same as every Trumptard I know. You learned nothing from bad experience and keep making the same mistakes, then forgiving yourself, and then after a time delay, making the same classic mistakes. It does not end well for people like you.



A. You offer no proof of me making the same mistakes. In fact, you don't even point out any specific examples.

In the case you brought up above, I have never had a drink after I quit... now going on 6 years, and I only have the ability to lose my teeth once.

So what are your examples?

B. You should always be able to forgive yourself. Guilt will rip you apart, dude. Ask me how I know.

C. It doesn't end well for anybody. If some thug doesn't end up shooting you in the street, or a car doesn't accidentally run you over or a random piano doesn't fall on your head, you're going to die of cancer or a heart attack. If you're lucky, one of those things will happen before dementia rots your brain and makes you a mental prisoner in your own head or your body just gives up on you and your very existence becomes a burden on everyone else around you. If you're really, really lucky you will just spontaneously die in your sleep one night with a smile on your face and piss and shit all over your bed sheets will be your final gift for whoever has to clean up the mess.


Why are you so afraid of death? Why are you so afraid of forgiving yourself for making mistakes?

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 1:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Amen, SIX.

The dood posts like he's going to live forever.

*****

My dad's mother died when he was 13. My grandpa's first wife died, my (maternal) grandma was his second wife. Half of my grandma's eight children and stepchildren died before adulthood. including one baby and one young child. Hubby recalls hearing a young couple in his village who died, after screaming for days, from eating poisoned mushrooms. And a young boy who was kicked in the head by a horse. In the mountain hamlet where hubby spent some of his summers, if someone was dying in agony the village elder women would get together and decide whether they would put an end to the person's misery with an overdose of poppy.

Whether you're Hitler or Ghandi, it doesn't matter: you will die.

SECOND thinking that he's so righteous he'll escape death is one of his bigger delusions. Why he HAS to believe that ... well, that's another problem.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 4:07 PM

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Russian Embassy, UK @RussianEmbassy
Russia government organization

#Azov militants deserve execution, but death not by firing squad but by hanging, because they’re not real soldiers. They deserve a humiliating death.

2:00 PM · Jul 29, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1553093117712162828

Russians Deliberately Shelled Prison Where They Tortured And Shot Ukrainian POWs

https://en.defence-ua.com/events/russians_deliberately_shelled_prison_
where_they_tortured_and_shot_ukrainian_pows-3712.html


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Saturday, July 30, 2022 4:14 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Amen, SIX.

The dood posts like he's going to live forever.

*****

My dad's mother died when he was 13. My grandpa's first wife died, my (maternal) grandma was his second wife. Half of my grandma's eight children and stepchildren died before adulthood. including one baby and one young child. Hubby recalls hearing a young couple in his village who died, after screaming for days, from eating poisoned mushrooms. And a young boy who was kicked in the head by a horse. In the mountain hamlet where hubby spent some of his summers, if someone was dying in agony the village elder women would get together and decide whether they would put an end to the person's misery with an overdose of poppy.

Whether you're Hitler or Ghandi, it doesn't matter: you will die.

SECOND thinking that he's so righteous he'll escape death is one of his bigger delusions. Why he HAS to believe that ... well, that's another problem.

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Posted by Signym – Saturday, January 1, 2022 12:21 PM

Ten days of sunny to mostly sunny weather 60=70 deg daytime high.

THIS is the weather that I love!

Too bad I'll be indoors recovering from chemo.

Yes, I have cancer, That "nothing" mammo turned out to be a small but aggressive type of cancer that popped up and metastasized into at least one lymph node between mammograms. Helped along by one (rare) bad gene that didn't turn up on the usual 8=gene panel, but needed a full 90-gene panel to be revealed. (no family Hx of breast cancer, and this one has nothing to do with hormones or pregnanacy or breastfeeding or abortions, it's called a HER2+ cancer combined with a BARD1 gene defect that means I don't repair DNA very well. I guess I got "lucky". The geneticist was all excited to find it. Me, not so much.)

I've been on chemo since mid-Oct, and I gotta say: it sucks. One more infusion in three weeks, then surgery to remove breast and lymph nodes, see how much cancer remains, recovery, then back on another less stringent form of chemo for another 9 months. If not a cure, then life prolongs for another 3 years, maybe more.

Gotta say, chemo sucks. Lost most of my hair, but nobody tells you you can lose your fingernails and toenails too. Nerve damage: everything tastes bitter, especially the "good for me" foods like ... oh pretty much any source of protein like meat, cheese, anything aged (soy, saurkraut, pickled anything) or anything with ANY bitterness in the falvorprofile. eve apples taste bitter.

Cumulative nerve damage elsewhere too- can't feel my fingertips very well, my toes, or the balls of my feet so I have to pick up things very carefully, walk carefully, and I lose my balance often bc I can't tell where my weight is on my feet. I tripped and fell down... hard... while walking the dog, tore the elbow off a VERY heavy duty-shirt and skinned myself up pretty good. Lost a lot of weight. Needed two transfusions bc of anemia due to general bone marrow suppression. Aches and pains like the worst flu-like body aches X5 from the Neulasta used to boost white blood cell production. Diarrhea. Need my heart function checked every three months to make sure I'm not developing heart failure. Palpitations and supraventricular tachycardia. Fatigue. It's been a cavalcade of side effects and medications to manage the side effects. Fortunately, the vomitting hasn't happened.

But! Only one more to go! Looking forward to that, and eventual recovery and some semblance of better health and activity.

The family has been very helpful. Dear daughter = despite her anxieties and disabilities- has been really pitching in and very patient with my outbursts and bad temper, and just gives me a hug. What a sweetie! Hubby and she have been running all my usual errands, and he's been taking me for my appointments and staying with me for my infusions (which last pretty mcuh all day bc they're pumping so much stiff into me) and I have one relative in the area who's been staying with dear daughter while I'm being infused and helping out in a myriad of ways, buying me tolerable foods like whey powder and egg white powder and providing me with medical advice and help and moral support.

So, life goes on.

May this New Year be better than the old!

PS I will erase this post shortly.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 4:40 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Like I said, it doesn't matter whether you're Ghandi or Hitler ... or SIGNY or SECOND ... we will die. Some of us slowly and painfully. Maybe even you, SECOND. Maybe Agent Orange will catch up with you.

When I die- and I know I will someday -my regret, if I have any, will be what I couldn't manage to do for my family.

It's not that we die, because we all do no matter how righteous we feel or how diligently we take care of ourselves, it's what we've managed to do with the time in-between. I don't fear death.

What about you SECOND?

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 5:16 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Like I said, it doesn't matter whether you're Ghandi or Hitler ... or SIGNY or SECOND ... we will die. Some of us slowly and painfully. Maybe even you, SECOND. Maybe Agent Orange will catch up with you.

When I die- and I know I will someday -my regret, if I have any, will be what I couldn't manage to do for my family.

It's not that we die, because we all do no matter how righteous we feel or how diligently we take care of ourselves, it's what we've managed to do with the time in-between. I don't fear death.

What about you SECOND?

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It does not end well for people like you. It won't end well for Russians, who seem to have an appetite for the worst kind of rulers: Stalin, Boris Yeltsin and Putin. In America, they wanted Nixon (who was reelected despite every sign he shouldn't be), Bush II (reelected despite every sign he shouldn't be), Trump (almost reelected despite signs he shouldn't be), provably the worst kind of rulers.

What I fear, Signym, is your stupidity and lack of control, which gets expressed by people such as Trump or Putin, people who threaten to nuke the world:

President Donald Trump, in his first address to the United Nations, derided Kim Jong Un, North Korea’s leader, as a “rocket man” on Tuesday as the president warned that he may be forced to "totally destroy" the rogue nation.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-un-north-korean-lea
der-suicide-mission-n802596


I could editorialize that Trump is a blowhard and a fool, but why bother? Trumptards don't seem to notice how dangerous he is.

Putin Threatens to Nuke the World
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-threatens-nuke-world-opinion-1685241

Why bother editorializing about Putin, either? He is expressing the Everybody Dies nihilism of 6ix, Signym, and every Trumptard I have ever known, including Trump, and all of them (with no exceptions that I know of) are killing themselves with their stupidity and lack of self-control and would deliberately kill the human race if they could figure out how it is done without too much effort. (Too cryptic? Talk to Christians about Armageddon and the Book of Revelations. )

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 5:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Like I said, it doesn't matter whether you're Ghandi or Hitler ... or SIGNY or SECOND ... we will die. Some of us slowly and painfully. Maybe even you, SECOND. Maybe Agent Orange will catch up with you.
When I die- and I know I will someday -my regret, if I have any, will be what I couldn't manage to do for my family.
It's not that we die, because we all do no matter how righteous we feel or how diligently we take care of ourselves, it's what we've managed to do with the time in-between. I don't fear death.
What about you SECOND?


SECOND: It does not end well for people like you.

OMFG, and you think it will "end well" for you???

How??

The only way you can guarantee HOW you will die is if you commit suicide. Is that your exit plan then?

The one good thing about your death SECOND, is that all of that hate and bile that you spent your entire adult lifetime spewing will end with you. And, there go all of your"riches". Pffft! The world will be a better place without you.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 5:50 PM

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I'm really enjoying how this thread has devolved into nothing more than a catalogue of Second's insanity.



It is a real shame that he copied a PERSONAL post that you didn't want to be up for very long though, Sigs. I know this isn't the first time he's been an asshole and thrown it in your face.

It takes a real special kind of evil psychopath to do that.



Oh yeah... The reason that Second still thinks he's going to live forever is because he's a 20-Something beatoff living in his parents basement.

Go listen to your mom and take that trash out, worm. Your mother must have been an awful person in a previous life to have to put up with the likes of you.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 6:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Like I said, it doesn't matter whether you're Ghandi or Hitler ... or SIGNY or SECOND ... we will die. Some of us slowly and painfully. Maybe even you, SECOND. Maybe Agent Orange will catch up with you.
When I die- and I know I will someday -my regret, if I have any, will be what I couldn't manage to do for my family.
It's not that we die, because we all do no matter how righteous we feel or how diligently we take care of ourselves, it's what we've managed to do with the time in-between. I don't fear death.
What about you SECOND?


SECOND: It does not end well for people like you.

OMFG, and you think it will "end well" for you???

How??

The only way you can guarantee HOW you will die is if you commit suicide. Is that your exit plan then?

The one good thing about your death SECOND, is that all of that hate and bile that you spent your entire adult lifetime spewing will end with you. And, there go all of your"riches". Pffft! The world will be a better place without you.

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Signym, can_you_see_me_laughing?

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With the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the financial situation of the Russians has significantly worsened. About 21 million people have fallen below the poverty line since the beginning of 2022. As a result, the Russians steal and engage in other crimes while the Kremlin spends billions of rubles daily on its imperial ambitions.



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Saturday, July 30, 2022 6:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I don't don't what drove SECOND ove the edge, but he's crazier than a shithouse rat.

And THUGR... he's just really, really stupid.



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Saturday, July 30, 2022 7:25 PM

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There is no denying Ted's stupidity. I seriously wonder most days if I've ever once ran into a person who wasn't clearly mentally disabled that is dumber than Ted.

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Originally posted by SECOND: It does not end well for people like you.

Silly me, I just realized why SECOND shut up: He was in the process of blurting out that he knows something about me IRL that I didn't post about myself.


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Kiev shells POW camp housing it's own soldiers.

Quote:

Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing
Moscow earlier blamed Ukraine for the strike, saying US-made HIMARS rocket launchers were used to carry it out
Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing

The Russian Defense Ministry announced on Sunday that it had officially invited independent experts from the UN and the Red Cross to investigate the shelling of a detention center in Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). The Friday bombing killed 50 prisoners, with dozens more wounded.

“In the interest of conducting an objective investigation of the strike on the detention center in Yelenovka, which led to the deaths of many Ukrainian prisoners of war, the Russian Federation has officially invited experts from the UN and the International Red Cross Committee,” the ministry said.


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Sunday, July 31, 2022 8:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Kiev shells POW camp housing it's own soldiers.

https://www.rt.com/russia/559920-russia-pow-un-red-cross-ukraine/


Russia Today, also known as rt.com, would claim that.

Ukraine did not kill Ukraine prisoners. The Russians did it. Russians locked prisoners in a building, then destroyed the building to send a message to Ukrainians fighting Russia.

It has been pointed out that the Geneva Convention requires that prisoners be removed far, far away from the battlefield so that these "accidental executions" can't happen. During WWII, America moved POWs all the way to the USA. That means that when Russia has POWs it is suppose to move the POWs over the border into Russia, making sure that prisoners are kept safe. Unlike the USA during WWII, Russian executed POWs or made them slave labor.

The Russians are doing the same to prisoners today as they did in the past, kill or enslave:
German prisoners of war in the Soviet Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_Soviet_Un
ion


German prisoners of war in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_United_St
ates


Distribution of major POW camps


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I don't don't what drove SECOND ove the edge, but he's crazier than a shithouse rat.

And THUGR... he's just really, really stupid.



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Former televangelist Pat Robertson says Putin is beginning Armageddon

Former televangelist Pat Robertson had an interesting take on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, saying Russian President Vladimir Putin is being "driven by God" to bring about Armageddon.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-699091

It is even Putin talking about Armageddon.
https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+armageddon

05.22.2022 Sen. Mitt Romney: We Must Prepare for Putin’s Worst Weapons
Quote:

By invading Ukraine, Mr. Putin has already proved that he is capable of illogical and self-defeating decisions. If he loses in Ukraine, he not only will have failed to achieve his life’s ambition to reverse what he sees as the “greatest geopolitical catastrophe” of the 20th century — the collapse of the Soviet Union — but he will also have permanently diminished Russia as a great power and reinvigorated its adversaries. It is possible that Mr. Putin could face significant internal challenges to his leadership. In such a circumstance, he may be able to convince himself that the United States and the West are the reason he invaded Ukraine and that the propaganda he has deployed to justify this immoral invasion was true from the beginning.
https://www.romney.senate.gov/we-must-prepare-for-putins-worst-weapons/

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Sunday, July 31, 2022 12:06 PM

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Just give it up dude.

Democrats are finished.

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Sunday, July 31, 2022 7:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Kiev shells POW camp housing it's own soldiers.

Quote:

Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing
Moscow earlier blamed Ukraine for the strike, saying US-made HIMARS rocket launchers were used to carry it out
Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing

The Russian Defense Ministry announced on Sunday that it had officially invited independent experts from the UN and the Red Cross to investigate the shelling of a detention center in Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). The Friday bombing killed 50 prisoners, with dozens more wounded.

“In the interest of conducting an objective investigation of the strike on the detention center in Yelenovka, which led to the deaths of many Ukrainian prisoners of war, the Russian Federation has officially invited experts from the UN and the International Red Cross Committee,” the ministry said.


MORE AT

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Animals comrade signym, Russians are animals

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Kiev shells POW camp housing it's own soldiers.

Quote:

Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing
Moscow earlier blamed Ukraine for the strike, saying US-made HIMARS rocket launchers were used to carry it out
Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing

The Russian Defense Ministry announced on Sunday that it had officially invited independent experts from the UN and the Red Cross to investigate the shelling of a detention center in Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). The Friday bombing killed 50 prisoners, with dozens more wounded.

“In the interest of conducting an objective investigation of the strike on the detention center in Yelenovka, which led to the deaths of many Ukrainian prisoners of war, the Russian Federation has officially invited experts from the UN and the International Red Cross Committee,” the ministry said.


MORE AT

https://www.rt.com/russia/559920-russia-pow-un-red-cross-ukraine/







Animals comrade signym, Russians are animals regardless of where they live. You are evidence of that.

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Sunday, July 31, 2022 7:39 PM

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But I guess we have to go back to the old metric: people who will believe trannies exist, and that there is such a thing as child trannies, will believe anything. So you can just tell people Russia bombed its own POW camp, filled with prisoners who had already allegedly made deals to testify on war crimes.

This is wacko.


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Originally posted by THG:
Animals comrade signym, Russians are animals regardless of where they live. You are evidence of that.


Racist.

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Pity . . .

The United States State Department suspects between 900,000 and 1.6 million Ukrainian citizens, including 260,000 children, have been detained and transferred to Russia, often to isolated regions.

“Moscow’s actions appear pre-meditated and draw immediate historical comparisons to Russian ‘filtration’ operations in Chechnya and other areas. President Putin’s ‘filtration’ operations are separating families, confiscating Ukrainian passports, and issuing Russian passports in an apparent effort to change the demographic makeup of parts of Ukraine,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken wrote in the statement. Reports also show Russia is deliberately separating children from their families and putting children up for adoption.

https://www.vox.com/2022/7/31/23286026/the-attack-on-a-prison-holding-
ukraine-pows-explained-russia


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Sunday, July 31, 2022 10:53 PM

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Bullshit.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Bullshit.

The contrast between ordinary Ukrainians grabbing a gun, rushing to the front to risk their lives as they fight for their country, and Americans moaning about the price of filling up their Ford F150s is unsettling. The lack of imagination that some Americans have when it comes to a very dangerous moment on the European continent and the lack of commitment to make small sacrifices to help keep the Russians from invading the rest of Europe defines petulance.

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Shelling targeted grain businessman

The mayor of the major Ukrainian port city of Mykolaiv, Vitaliy Kim, said shelling killed one of Ukraine’s wealthiest men, Oleksiy Vadatursky, and his wife, Raisa. Vadatursky headed a grain production and export business.

Another presidential adviser, Mykhailo Podolyak, said Vadatursky was specifically targeted.

It “was not an accident, but a well-thought-out and organized premeditated murder. Vadatursky was one of the largest farmers in the country, a key person in the region and a major employer,” he said.

Vadatursky’s agribusiness, Nibulon, includes a fleet of ships for sending grain abroad.

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/houston-chronicle/20220801/28239410820
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NATO sure sucks, huh?

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Russia plans to hold elections in the occupied Ukrainian territories of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and others as early as September, paving the way for Russian President Vladimir Putin to annex those regions in the same way he did in 2014 when he seized Ukraine’s Crimea Peninsula.

Of course, Russian officials deny they covet these territories. “The determination of the future destiny of those people is in their hands,” a Kremlin spokesman told Bloomberg. “If they are going to make any referendums, it will be their decision.”

But Putin is clearly planning on annexing territories that Ukrainians have failed to reconquer since Russia invaded the country in late February.

Before the war caused millions across the country to leave their homes, more than 2.5 million people lived in the regions. Russian hardliners don’t view their Ukrainian citizenship as legitimate. “The so-called ‘party of war’ believes that Russia should annex these territories,” that they are “part of Russia historically and so must be returned,” said Russian political analyst Tatiana Stanovaya in an interview with the Washington Post. “For them, it’s inevitable.”

Russia is already using a mix of “terror, state propaganda, handouts and promises to rebuild destroyed areas” to drum up loyalty, she added, while detaining or killing local politicians, activists and journalists who might resist their efforts.

Such a move as elections would potentially bolster Putin’s revanchist claims on Ukrainian soil even as the Russian military fails to achieve a decisive victory and continues to lose significant personnel and equipment, wrote Agence France-Presse, a testament to Ukrainian resolve, Western military support, and poor Russian planning and execution.

It would also likely make it much harder for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to agree to any peace deal in the future, added Axios, as Russia would insist that the conquered land was Russian sovereign territory. Conversely, if Putin annexed the regions and then lost them to a Ukrainian counteroffensive, he could suffer a stinging embarrassment.

Diplomats in Syria, a Russian ally, recently said they would recognize the independence and sovereignty of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, effectively saying they have the freedom to join the Russian Federation if they so choose, the Associated Press reported. In 2015 Russia first interceded with military assistance to help Syrian President Bashar al-Assad quash rebels in the Syrian Civil War.

The president of Kazakhstan, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, despite being another Russian ally, refused to recognize Luhansk and Donetsk as “People’s Republics,” however, because he said they were “quasi-states” on Ukrainian occupied territory, noted Ukrainska Pravda via Yahoo! News.

After all, Kazakhstan is another former Soviet republic that Putin might set his eyes on one day.

https://www.dailychatter.com/2022/08/01/the-revanchists-folly/

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Putin's rule is weakening
So what comes next?

Timothy Snyder, Jul 30

It seems to me, from a distance, that Putin's rule is weakening. We now regularly hear from people aside from Putin (for example former prime minister and president Dmitry Medvedev) about the meaning of the war, the catastrophic consequences that await Ukraine and the West, and so forth. This is interesting, because it seems like a sign that Putin is losing control.

Usually the news coverage of such pronouncements focuses on their content. When Medvedev tells us that the war is Poland's fault, or that Ukraine is a Jewish conspiracy, or that this or that action will lead to dreadful consequences, we pay attention. He is playing to a news cycle organized around fear. But the deeper story, I think, is that he and other people aside from Putin now feel authorized to make such colorful proclamations. Before the war there was less of this.

The doom propaganda serves a couple of purposes. On the surface, it shows (or rather seems to show) loyalty to Putin. At a time when Russia is losing the war, the best hope is to convince the West that Russia is somehow unstoppable -- which it isn't. Russia has had to pull back, just in this war, from a great deal of Ukrainian territory. Its forces in the south are in an unenviable situation right now. Russian history, like American history, is littered with defeat in war.

At the same time, the doom propaganda is rhetorical preparation for a power struggle after Putin falls. If Russia loses the war, the people saying radical things now will have protected themselves. For my part, I tend to see the drastic proclamations as evidence that important Russians (Medvedev, also Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov) understand that Russia can lose wars, and is losing this one.

I am not convinced that Medvedev, who for years was seen as the liberal alternative to Putin, believes the anti-Ukrainian, antisemitic, anti-Polish, and anti-Western hate speech he publishes on his Telegram channel. He is creating a profile that might be useful after Putin (just as his technocrat profile was once useful to Putin). Lavrov’s bluster has a similar feel. He doesn’t want to left out of the chorus of celebration of atrocity, but he can’t be bothered to make sense. His recent claim that Russia must annex any territory from which any weapon could reach Russia implies that Russia must keep expanding until it controls the entire surface of the earth.

Another interesting example is Ramzan Kadyrov, who has run Chechnya as his own personal satrapy since he helped Putin win the Second Chechen War. Kadyrov commands a kind of personal armed guard that appears alongside the Russian army in its foreign wars.

In Ukraine, Kadyrov has spoken of the need to take Kyiv, and then has seemed hesitant to risk his men for the less prestigious goals available to the Russian offensive at the moment. According the Russian statistics, Chechen casualties are among the lowest of all the regions, which would be odd, given the presence in Ukraine of a specifically Chechen force. From the perspective of Kadyrov's own interests, though, this would makes sense. His men have to be present in Ukraine, because for now he must seem loyal. But for him it is more important that they be available for a future power struggle in a post-Putin Russia.

It does seem that his mind is now on the future. Kadyrov now proposes that Russia locate air defense systems in Chechnya. His justification is that Ukraine might attack Chechnya, which is not at all credible. He has also announced that a new battalion raised in Chechnya to fight in Ukraine will instead remain in Chechnya. It sounds more like he is preparing for a post-Putin Russia in which Chechnya would claim independence.

Another sign of weakness for Putin is the army itself. The argument over whether Russia is winning or losing can be made in military terms. But the army itself is a source of Putin's political strength. The claim of its eternal invincibility is a consistent element of Putin's own propaganda.

Russians might think that Russia is winning the war. But out there in the real world, on Ukrainian territory, the Russian army is taking losses, in equipment and in officers, that threaten its integrity as an institution, not to mention its ability to fulfill its many other missions beyond Ukraine.

Sanctions make this worse. A world-class army is not one that goes hunting in Teheran for drones reverse-engineered from Western technology. But that is where Russia is right now. Putin can survive the army not being strong. But at a certain point, not being strong becomes not looking strong. Putin's power is based upon an image; by choosing to fight an actual war, he has made illusion hostage to reality.

The Russian army is also taking horrible losses in men, which suggests the next sign of Putin's weakness. The Russian state is not designed for a war of this kind. It looks fascist at the top, but it lacks the fascist capacity for total war. Its daily power arises from the demobilization of its population, not its mobilization. The old communist joke went "we pretend to work and you pretend to pay us." In Russia today the reality is something more like "you pretend to win a war and we pretend to show enthusiasm."

Putin seems afraid that a general mobilization would undo his popularity and bring down his regime. The dramatic rhetoric on Russian television and on the Telegram channels of Russian leaders is thus rather a substitute for than evidence of a national consensus about the war. So long as everyone says nationalistic things, a certain equilibrium is preserved. But this amounts to everyone bluffing everyone else.

The equilibrium that keeps Putin in power -- mastery over rivals, soft support in the population, the integrity of the army -- is challenged by the realities of an unpredictable, costly war. Putin has been good at keeping us all in a fog. But now he himself seems lost in the fog of war.

No one can say what exactly is happening inside the Kremlin. But a general predicament does seem clear. The trap laid before Putin (willingly or unwillingly, consciously or unconsciously) by rivals, by the public, and by the army looks like this: we will all agree with you that we are winning the war — and we will all have no one to blame but you if Russia loses it. This is all quite vague, half-unsaid, clouded by emotion, displacement, taboo, and fear. But it is the general picture. And in its fundamentals the trap was laid by Putin himself.

No one can say how power will change hands in Russia, or what the next stage in Putin's rule will be like. Personally, I don't imagine that the weakening of Putin's rule has to lead to the dramatic coup scenarios that people envisioned at the beginning of the war (though they are possible, if Putin lets the war go on too long). Nor do I expect that a moment will come when Putin will decide that doing something drastic on the battlefield will save him, which it wouldn't. It would also amount to an open admission of defeat, which he has to avoid. What I expect instead is something much more banal: that Putin’s voice will count for less and less as the war goes on, and that he will at some point have to decide whether pursuing it is worth risking his position.

War is politics by other means; Putin himself chose this war and its atrocities. For the war to end, Putin must feel the politics change around him; and so for the war to end, Ukraine must win. For the West, this means patience and firmness and the consistent supply of the weapons Ukraine needs.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220730162806/https://snyder.substack.com
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It could be many decades before it is known how many people the Russians murder in Ukraine. For an example from history:

An Unusual Early Life

I was born on July 5, 1928 in Riga, the capital of Latvia, and was very fortunate to have been born into a prominent Latvian family. My father was the Chief of Staff of the Latvian army, and my early childhood was secure, pleasant, and interesting. I attended the excellent French Lycee there, expecting to follow my father into a military career. I am surprised how much motivation and insight they gave besides teaching the basic subject matters.

That good life unfortunately changed when I was about 12 years old. The Soviets occupied Latvia, and in the winter of 1940 my father was arrested. We did not know for years what happened to him. Only after the Soviet Union collapsed in the 1990s and their archives were opened did we find out that my father has been taken to Moscow, tried, convicted, and executed. The Soviet occupation really was very, very brutal.

When Riga fell to the Soviets in 1944, we left by ship and moved to the university town of Marburg an der Lahn in Germany, and I enrolled in a German high school. But this was 1944 and there wasn't much of a school year; every time allied bombers approached there were air raid alerts, and everybody had to proceed to air raid shelters. By 1945 everybody knew the war was lost, and German soldiers surrendered en masse in a disciplined manner.

When the war was over I attended Latvian high schools, first in the English occupation zone, then in the American zone. Travel was very difficult. There were bombed-out bridges where trains had passed over valleys; trains now stopped on one side and you carried your luggage down the valley and up the other side where another train was supposed to be waiting.

More at https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/4/184690-an-interview-with-juris-h
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Lies, lies.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Lies, lies.

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Russia has a GDP per capita that is less than a fourth that of Finland. For Russia to manage even that poorly, it has to lie, cheat, steal and murder.

Country comparison Russia vs Finland
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/finland

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Uh huh.

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Uh huh.

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There are other ways to compare Russia vs Finland. Where Russia really excels compared to Finland (but not compared to the USA) is not paying taxes, not being educated and number of H-bombs.

https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/compare/russia/finland

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Uh huh.

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Uh huh.

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I think you meant "Duh" because the way Russians keep the country running is by over-charging for fuel and, when that doesn't work well enough, invade another country and steal from them.

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*yawn*

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Mines, Missiles, Warcrimes And A Warning To Zelenski

Russia continues its special military operation in Ukraine in a relatively slow manner.

Its military is tasked with the 'demilitarization' and 'denazification' of Ukraine. This task does not require large movements of the front line as the Ukrainian government continues to send fresh troops and nazis units towards the Russian lines. There the Russians reliably maul them without taking significant casualties on their own side.
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The Ukrainian government and its military continue to commit war crimes.

Since a few days the Ukraine is firing missiles with thousands of anti-personal mines into Donetsk city and other population centers in the east. These are not powerful enough to kill but are designed to maim anyone who steps on them or tries to pick them up.



Their color is green and brown so one will hardly see them when they are laying in grass or on rough ground. The Russian's once had similar mines but those deactivated themselves after 24 hours. The Ukrainian ones do not do that. They will still be dangerous months from now. Russia has send hundreds of troops to help with the demining.


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Originally posted by SignyM:
Mines, Missiles, Warcrimes And A Warning To Zelenski

Ukraine did not kill Ukrainian prisoners. The Russians did it. Russians locked prisoners in a building, then destroyed the building to send a message to Ukrainians fighting Russia.

It has been pointed out that the Geneva Convention requires that prisoners be removed far, far away from the battlefield so that these "accidental executions" can't happen. During WWII, America moved POWs all the way to the USA. That means that when Russia has POWs it is suppose to move the POWs over the border into Russia, making sure that prisoners are kept safe. Unlike the USA during WWII, Russian executed POWs or made them slave labor.

The Russians are doing the same to prisoners today as they did in the past, killing prisoners and enslaving prisoners:
German prisoners of war in the Soviet Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_Soviet_Un
ion


German prisoners of war in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_United_St
ates


Distribution of major POW camps


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SECOND: Ukraine did not kill Ukrainian prisoners. The Russians did it.

So you say. Videos from the scene show wreckage of a short-range HIMARS rocket.

If Russia wanted to send a message to Kiev, they would simply video the torture-deaths of prisoners. Yanno, LIKE KIEV DID.

But since RUSSIA called for an imvestigation by the UN and IRC, it's highly unlikely that Russia did this, using a HIMARS (which Kiev says Russia doesn't have). IIRC, Kiev ALSO called for a Red Cross investigation. So this may have been either a rogue right-wing military group in Kiev's army, or the CIA did it.

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Now, about those PETAL mines which were dropped on the civilian population of (Russian controlled) Donersk city...

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Oh, BTW, it is an internationally-recognized fact that KIEV mined the waters around Odessa, preventing grain shipments from leaving. The mines that are now being cleared from around Odessa are KIEV's mines, not Russia's.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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SECOND: Ukraine did not kill Ukrainian prisoners. The Russians did it.

So you say. Videos from the scene show wreckage of a short-range HIMARS rocket.

Stop using the Firehose of Falsehoods, Signym. According to the Geneva Conventions, those prisoners are to be moved outside the zone of battle so there can't be any confusion about how they were killed. But the Russians left the prison inside the zone. But understanding the Geneva Conventions is a little too delicate a mental operation for Russians who have a long history of killing their prisoners. Using prisoners as slave labor. Killing millions of civilians after a peace treaty is signed.
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. . . the position of the German government, the German Federal Agency for Civic Education and the German Red Cross is that the death toll in the expulsions was between 2.0 and 2.5 million civilians.


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