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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Friday, August 11, 2023 2:21 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, August 11, 2023 3:19 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, August 11, 2023 3:22 PM
Friday, August 11, 2023 3:41 PM
Friday, August 11, 2023 4:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, wow, SECOND, one Russian tank?? From Newspeak?? Keep flailing away, dood!
Friday, August 11, 2023 5:32 PM
Friday, August 11, 2023 8:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: And...? What's your point?
Saturday, August 12, 2023 3:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: And...? What's your point?If Russia had not spent the last 100 years threatening and actually killing everybody who gets in its way, nobody would care when Russia took over Ukraine, not even the Ukrainians. But Russia has been threatening to nuke the world since it got its first nukes, which is why the EU and the US send ammo to Ukraine. Russia is poor compared to the EU because Russia has always done a very poor job of running itself. Russia passed along that trait to North Korea, which does an even poorer job of running itself in comparison to South Korea, a vastly wealthier country. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, August 12, 2023 7:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Russia has not spent the last 100 years invading and killing. Learn history and stop spouting hogwash.
Saturday, August 12, 2023 9:15 AM
Saturday, August 12, 2023 9:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Been thru this with you, SECOND. Not a single other source verifies the favorite lie that you keep posting. Yanno, once upon a time you used to be able to maintain a normal discussion. Thanks to JAYNZE's necroposting, I found an example here: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61953&p=6 Now, you just lie your ass off, contradict yourself from one post to the next (literally), defame, and in general spew nonsense. I think you've either been replaced by a bot, and not a very smart one. Or you've gone way, way, waaaay off the deep end. Better get a checkup, SECOND, especially for frontotemporal dementia. Or alcoholism.
Saturday, August 12, 2023 9:44 AM
Saturday, August 12, 2023 9:49 AM
Saturday, August 12, 2023 9:57 AM
Saturday, August 12, 2023 1:09 PM
Saturday, August 12, 2023 1:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And those figures don't match yours. Simple arithmetic is beyond you?
Sunday, August 13, 2023 9:55 AM
Quote: Slow counteroffensive darkens mood in Ukraine
Quote: WSJ: Western Officials Knew Ukraine Didn’t Have Enough Weapons and Training for Counteroffensive
Sunday, August 13, 2023 10:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Slow counteroffensive darkens mood in Ukraine archived https://archive.li/1evHw from WaPo. Quote: WSJ: Western Officials Knew Ukraine Didn’t Have Enough Weapons and Training for Counteroffensive reposted from WSJ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia/ar-AA1edW4t Soon, Ukraine's limiting factor won't be weapons, it'll be trained soldiers. Apparently Ukraine has kept just one army corps out of the fight (from an original nine) and is preparing for a general mobilization ... i.e. anyone who can walk and hold a gun ... but without proper training these men will be just more meat into a meat grinder. which brings us to Poland. Altho the Polish population is split on whether to involve itself in Ukraine, Polish President Duda has his eye teeth on Lvov.
Sunday, August 13, 2023 1:12 PM
Monday, August 14, 2023 8:25 AM
Monday, August 14, 2023 3:16 PM
Quote: There are at least 10 000 graves that I found in the Lviv Oblast, there will be more, because I only checked out the main cemeteries. New graves are also being prepared everywhere. I can not visit every cemetery or city, because of safety and i need to sustain myself financially, so I need to keep my business going at the same time. The Ukrainian losses will be somewhere around the 200,000 mark, excluding the missing. That’s my estimate. Almost every person I speak to, knows someone who died, and in turn knows someone else who knows another person that died. The conversations usually go like this… “The man from the second floor of my apartment died, and my cousin from XXXXX lost her son, 3 others from her son’s class also died…” We will perhaps never know the truth or real losses, and also not on the Russian side. Interestingly enough, in one week, I also saw over 200 men and more than 30 women with missing limbs or in wheelchairs. These are people that were at the same place as me, at a particular time…so you can conclude yourself how many of those there are. So let's look at the data points we have showing Ukrainian KIA in the 200-400,000 range. - Population surveys - Obituary counts on social media - Cemetery construction - Amputation disclosures - Older, inadvertent official disclosures - Endless conscription but no army growth It's all completely internally consistent, pointing to the same approximate number of casualties in the 2-400k range. This is exactly what you would expect if that was in fact the case - all these secondary indicators are consistent with each other and there is no countervailing data besides the obvious lies of Ukrainian officials. Given that Mediazona's count of Russian KIA in the 30,000 range has recently been validated by another inadvertent disclosure on their side (of some 8,500 WIA returned to duty, total, in the entire VDV for the entire SMO) this also points to an absolutely brutal fact: for every Russian soldier killed in this war, somewhere between seven and thirteen Ukrainian soldiers die. That's apocalyptic for the Ukrainian Army and a disgrace for their Western advisors. This also, by the way, aligns perfectly with the Ukrainian MoD's claims for -Russian- casualties. This suggests strongly that the Ukrainian MoD's infamously implausibly running count of Russian losses is, astonishingly, actually an accurate report of their own losses - ArmChairWarrior
Monday, August 14, 2023 9:37 PM
Quote: Bolton: Biden's policy towards Ukraine only delaying Kyiv's inevitable defeat to Russia:
Monday, August 14, 2023 10:10 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Bolton: Biden's policy towards Ukraine only delaying Kyiv's inevitable defeat to Russia: In other words, Ukraine is losing. Peskov, Putin's spox, said that Russia only wants to occupy the regions that it has already incorporated into Russia (in other words, Donetsk, Luhansk, Crimea, Zaparozhiy, and Kherson. But not Karkhiv, Odessa, or any regions further west ) Still, I think that Russia may need to force Ukraine to unconditional surrender if it wants to achieve its security goals so it may push towards Kiev in order to cause a collapse of the Ukrainian government. We'll see.
Tuesday, August 15, 2023 4:30 PM
Tuesday, August 15, 2023 7:23 PM
K2PO
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Bolton: Biden's policy towards Ukraine only delaying Kyiv's inevitable defeat to Russia: In other words, Ukraine is losing.
Tuesday, August 15, 2023 9:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Bolton: Biden's policy towards Ukraine only delaying Kyiv's inevitable defeat to Russia: In other words, Ukraine is losing. K2PO: What were Bolton's actual words, where he said that?
Quote: "Ukraine’s offensive failures and Russia’s defensive successes"
Tuesday, August 15, 2023 9:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Bolton: Biden's policy towards Ukraine only delaying Kyiv's inevitable defeat to Russia: In other words, Ukraine is losing. Peskov, Putin's spox, said that Russia only wants to occupy the regions that it has already incorporated into Russia (in other words, Donetsk, Luhansk, Crimea, Zaparozhiy, and Kherson. But not Karkhiv, Odessa, or any regions further west ) Still, I think that Russia may need to force Ukraine to unconditional surrender if it wants to achieve its security goals so it may push towards Kiev in order to cause a collapse of the Ukrainian government. We'll see. THUGR: Quote: Ukraine Gains in Small Donetsk Village Have Major Frontline Implications The southern axis of Ukraine's grinding counteroffensive reportedly secured another key gain over the weekend, with unconfirmed reports emerging that Russian troops were pushed out of their defensive positions in the Donetsk Oblast town of Urozhaine, a small village north of Moscow's formidable defensive line and on the road to occupied Mariupol https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-gains-in-small-donetsk-village-have-major-frontline-implications/ar-AA1ffM2y?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a13d8cff7df44e36b531d08cc07753e0&ei=30
Quote: Ukraine Gains in Small Donetsk Village Have Major Frontline Implications The southern axis of Ukraine's grinding counteroffensive reportedly secured another key gain over the weekend, with unconfirmed reports emerging that Russian troops were pushed out of their defensive positions in the Donetsk Oblast town of Urozhaine, a small village north of Moscow's formidable defensive line and on the road to occupied Mariupol
Wednesday, August 16, 2023 7:43 AM
Wednesday, August 16, 2023 9:37 AM
Wednesday, August 16, 2023 2:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: In the following article, Daniel L. Davis explains the Ukrainian military failures. I agree with Davis, but Davis does not mention the biggest failure: failing to close the Kersh Strait Bridge to Crimea. Ukraine has had many years to develop a plan, then buy or build what is needed to bring down that bridge, but the bridge still stands despite several rushed and poorly executed attempts. That is the dumbest mistake (and the most significant) Ukraine made but it has made many others. It is hard to decide which side is dumber. Russia? Or Ukraine?
Quote: Ukraine’s last-gasp offensive has failed, and no amount of spin will change the outcome. Double Disaster at Bakhmut for Ukraine and Russia Bakhmut was a medium-sized town of about 70,000. It had some tactical significance for whoever possessed it, but by itself cannot be considered critical at even an operational level. Ukraine had held the town, but by early March, Wagner reached the eastern outskirts of the city. The military necessity for Ukraine at that time was to withdraw from Bakhmut to the next defended line to the west. From this new position, Ukraine’s ability to defend would have been stronger and Russia’s task to attack the new Ukrainian lines more difficult because the Ukraine side would have had the high ground and open fields of fire through which Russia would have to advance, making any assault extremely difficult and costly in terms of men and equipment. But by staying in Bakhmut, the task for the Russians was much easier. Now, Russia could move to within literal meters of the Ukrainian positions within Bakhmut without being seen. The Bakhmut defenders were at a disadvantage from that point forward. However, Zelensky chose to press the fight anyway. For months, senior U.S. leaders warned the Ukrainian president the battle was unwinnable and to move to other defensive positions. Not only did he refuse to withdraw to a superior fighting position, he ordered his men not to give up so much as a single building, forcing them to fight to the death. Month after month, Zelensky sent brigade after brigade to reinforce Bakhmut in an effort to reverse the tide. Not only was it painfully obvious that military fundamentals made clear there was little rational hope of stopping Wagner’s drive to capture Bakhmut,
Quote: but many of those brigades Zelensky sent in futile aid to help Bakhmut were also urgently needed in the upcoming spring and summer offensive. Two days after Bakhmut’s fall, Zelensky was still defiant, claiming the city had not fallen. In 2022, Zelensky’s tenacity and unwillingness to compromise resulted in blunting Russia’s invasion and then inflicting two major operational defeats.
Quote: But those [meaningless] successes bred hubris that in May 2023 led him to make very costly mistakes with strategic implications: not only did Ukraine spend irreplaceable resources on defending a strategically inconsequential city, but they also lost critically important brigades for their long-shot offensive that was to come. Unfortunately, once the offensive was launched in June, the mistakes continued. Inadequate and Improper Training Paved the Way to Failure Over many months prior to the offensive, many Western publications hailed the “advanced training” the Ukrainian Armed Forces were getting from a number of NATO countries. Concurrently, a number of Ukrainian brigades were also outfitted with modern NATO combat vehicles such as the Challenger and Leopard tanks, U.S. artillery systems, Bradley Fighting Vehicles, and Strykers. The combination of NATO technology with NATO training was expected to produce a quality offensive capacity that would penetrate Russian defenses and drive a wedge to the Azov coast, splitting the occupying forces in half. Foreign Affairs, on the day the offensive started, published an analysis titled “Ukraine’s Hidden Advantage: How European Trainers Have Transformed Kyiv’s Army and Changed the War.” And yet as has been painfully observed now after almost three months of the operation, European and NATO training did not transform the UAF. As I argued months before the offensive began, it was nearly impossible for Ukraine to transform itself in a matter of weeks or a few months of training and a hodge-podge of NATO gear. The reasons are fundamental – and are no reflection on the Ukrainian troops, as American soldiers are equally constrained by these fundamentals.
Quote: In order to produce an effective field force capable of employing combined arms operations to defeat a major power that has prepared a multi-belt defensive system, you must first have a sizable number of fully manned combat brigades. The battalions and companies of each brigade must be staffed with platoon leaders and sergeants, company commanders, First Sergeants, Sergeants Major, and battalion commanders and operations officers with experience in conducting such operations. These leaders need experience of two to five years at the platoon level, 5 to 7 years at the company, and 15-20 years at the battalion and brigade levels. Once the units are properly filled with educated and trained leaders, the next requirement is to develop proficiency in the individual soldier to do his skill (tank driver, Bradley gunner, infantry squad member, etc), then train crews to operate armored fighting platforms, then platoons to fight together, then the companies fight together, then battalions together at the brigade, and finally brigades and divisions in the theater army. All of this individual and collective training has to be done to produce a successful, coordinated combined arms operation. Ukraine had none of those prerequisites. It should have been no surprise, therefore, that the much-anticipated offensive ran into a brick wall from the outset.
Quote: Tactical Performance in the 2023 Ukraine Summer Offensive I have previously covered in depth the detailed performance of the Ukrainian army in its offensive but will discuss here the key mistakes that were responsible for their lack of success. The first problem was the Ukrainian military and political leadership ordering the offensive to begin at all. Nearly a month after the start of the operation, Ukrainian commanding general Valery Zaluzhny argued in a Washington Post interview that “it ****** me off” when he hears complaints about the lack of progress.
Quote: Yet in the same interview acknowledge that “without being fully supplied (for the offensive), these plans are not feasible at all.” Key among his complaints was the absence of air superiority. NATO, he said, would never launch an offensive operation without air superiority. And he is right. But Zaluzhny had even more fundamentals against him. Ukraine also suffers from a chronic lack of air defense capacity, inadequate numbers of howitzers and artillery shells, insufficient electronic warfare systems, a dearth of missiles, and perhaps most crucial of all, barely 25 percent of the de-mining capacity needed. Thus, when Ukraine launched its offensive across a broad front on June 5th, it should have surprised no one in Kyiv, Washington, or Brussels that they ran into a Russian buzzsaw. More at https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/08/the-hard-reality-ukraines-last-gasp-offensive-has-failed/
Friday, August 18, 2023 7:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And they had no "Plan B". They STILL don't have a "plan B". Our military was never prepared to fight a land war against a near-peer, and should have advised the WH and State Dept so. But the generals were apparently thinking about their retirement packages and, except for a few muted protests about this or that weapons systems, never gave the WH and neocons a straight assessment of the military situation in Ukraine. There are no options left FOR US except nukes, which Bolton is apparently willing to try out. So now everyone is kicking Ukraine under the bus, when they should be focusing on the origins of the war: squarely with USA neocons/neolibs and Soros' ultimate plan for EU nations to self-annihilate. Which, they've obligingly done.
Friday, August 18, 2023 7:09 AM
Friday, August 18, 2023 10:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: What ‘Oppenheimer' and Ukraine Teach Us About War by Paul Krugman https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/opinion/war-tech-oppenheimer.html If you’ve seen the movie “Oppenheimer,” which you should — trust me, it’s gripping even though it’s three hours long and you know how the story ends — you probably noticed several appearances by the physicist Isidor Isaac Rabi, who is portrayed in some ways as Oppenheimer’s voice of conscience. I was a bit puzzled when I watched, because I happened to know that Rabi wasn’t a resident at Los Alamos during the Manhattan Project. But the film was historically accurate: Rabi did visit Los Alamos on occasion, and was present for the Trinity bomb test. Why wasn’t Rabi at Los Alamos? The film highlights his ethical qualms. But the truth is that he was involved in another secret project applying cutting-edge science to the war effort, M.I.T.’s Radiation Laboratory, which basically worked on advanced radar. The Rad Lab arguably had an even bigger impact on the course of the war than the Manhattan Project, because it turned microwave technology, originally developed in Britain, into a radar system that German submarines couldn’t detect.
Quote: This was a major factor in the Allies’ 1943 victory in the Battle of the Atlantic, which secured the sea lanes to Britain; this in turn set the stage first for the decisive defeat of the Luftwaffe in early 1944, and then for D-Day.
Quote: There were other crucial scientific efforts too, like the group at Johns Hopkins that developed the proximity fuse, which made antiaircraft guns far more effective because they could bring down a plane without scoring a direct hit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_fuze
Quote: All of this was made possible not just by America’s economic might but also by its cultural and social openness.
Quote: At one point in the movie Oppenheimer says that the only reason we might beat the Germans to the bomb is Nazi antisemitism; indeed, America’s war effort was crucially aided by our willingness to take in and make use of the scientific talents of refugees.
Quote: If you’re a history buff like me, you find this stuff fascinating in its own right. But it’s also relevant, even now, to American politics — and to the war in Ukraine. Many people on the U.S. right seem to equate national greatness with military prowess and believe that military prowess is associated with macho posturing. The epitome of this attitude was Ted Cruz’s infamous ad contrasting tough-looking Russian recruits with U.S. recruiting ads that celebrated diversity, and declaring that we were made weak by having a “woke, emasculated” military.
Quote: And you still hear that sort of thing despite the catastrophic and very recent failures of Russia’s un-woke, un-emasculated army.
Quote: This is all, of course, deeply stupid. Wars still require almost unimaginable courage and endurance on the part of combatants. But they haven’t been won by sheer brawn for a long time. They are instead won largely by production capacity
Quote: — and intellectual creativity.
Quote: I’ve read many books about World War II. The book that did the most to change how I thought about the conflict was “How the War Was Won,” by the military historian Phillips P. O’Brien, which begins with this memorable sentence: “There were no decisive battles in World War II.” O’Brien shows that even the bloodiest, most stupendous battles, like the battle of Kursk in 1943, destroyed at most a few weeks’ worth of the losing side’s war production. What decided the war was Allied [i.e. including the Soviet Union] success in dominating first the seas, then the air
Quote:— success that depended crucially on intellectuals like Rabi, who didn’t look like anyone’s idea of a warrior, or Alan Turing, who led the code-breaking efforts at Bletchley Park but whose gayness would have made him an outcast in the right-wing vision of what America should be. O’Brien was, as it happens, one of the few prominent military analysts who disagreed with the consensus that Russia would quickly and easily conquer Ukraine, and has been a frequent and insightful commentator on the course of the ongoing war. He believes that Ukraine’s counteroffensive will eventually succeed; I’m not qualified to judge whether he’s right, but I do understand his reasoning. https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/weekend-update-38 Here’s how I’d put it: The Ukrainians discovered early on that they couldn’t pull off a blitzkrieg, using armored vehicles to punch a hole in Russia’s defense lines and then racing for the coast. When they tried that, they ran into dense minefields and withering artillery fire. So they reverted to tactics that seem on the surface almost like those of World War I: small-scale (and incredibly brave) infantry attacks that gain at most a few hundred yards at a time.
Quote: Under the surface, however — pun not really intended — what’s going on is something like the Battle of the Atlantic. Those infantry assaults force the Russians to respond, exposing their artillery systems in particular to attacks from Ukrainians using superior Western technology
Quote: , supplemented by local ingenuity.
Quote: If this strategy is working — again, a question I’m not competent to answer — Ukraine’s slow gains on the ground aren’t a good indication of what’s really happening. If the optimists are right, the real story is the gradual degradation of the stuff behind Russia’s lines — counter-battery radar, artillery pieces, command centers and so on.
Quote: One notable thing about the Battle of the Atlantic is that the denouement was quite sudden. We now know that the Allies were gradually gaining the upper hand for many months before a sudden surge in U-boat losses forced the Germans to abandon their attacks. Will there be a similar tipping point in Ukraine? I don’t know. But what we do know is that this war, like most modern wars, will be determined more by brains and open-mindedness than by tough-guy posturing.
Quote:Ukraine Commits Last Remaining Elite Brigade For Final Attempt Simplicius The Thinker Aug 16, 2023 Yesterday we had the first full confirmation that the last and most serious Ukrainian brigade, meant for the big offensive, has finally been committed to battle. As you know, from the Pentagon leaks we’ve had the full ORBATS of the 9 brigades of the so-called 9th Corps. All but the 82nd had already been committed and most were decimated. The 82nd Air Assault brigade is an elite force which was entrusted with the British Challenger 2 tanks, American Stryker AFVs, and even German Marder IFVs. In fact, they were even rounded out with the British M119 light howitzer which makes them the only brigade out of the entire offensive supergroup to be armed entirely with modern Western/NATO arms and not a single legacy Soviet system.
Quote:One thing to note is that, the 82nd is structured in a peculiar way compared to the other brigades. They appear to be the lightest and most mobile. This is due to every other brigade of the 9th Corps being distributed with the equivalent of two tank companies or perhaps a light tank battalion of about 30 tanks with 90 armored vehicles (AFV, IFV, ICV, AMV, APC, etc.). But the 82nd has a measly 14 x Challenger 2s but 90 Strykers + 40 Marders for a total of 130 capable lightly armored combat vehicles. Even their M119 light howitzers specialize in fast setup and mobility. If you ask me, this is more dangerous as tanks have typically proven useless in the hands of the AFU as they’re merely sitting ducks. Ukraine does better with IFVs and MRAPs when they’re able to just race down field and overwhelm Russian defenses as they did in the Kharkov offensive last year. Also, the quick-moving IFVs/AFVs typically scatter Russian artillery defenses, making them less effective and depleting their ammo. In short, I see this brigade as more of a threat than the Leopard 2 heavy 47th, which was meant to be the other big ‘elite’ unit. Sure, 2 of the Strykers are already kaput but they’ve got 88 more and another 39 or so German Marders which were always touted as the best available IFVs in the world next to the Swedish CV-90.
Friday, August 18, 2023 5:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Once upon a time I thought Paul Krugman was smart. Maybe he was. But's he's reduced himself to an inane blatherer of DNC/ neocon/ 'woke' orthodoxy. Quote: This was a major factor in the Allies’ 1943 victory in the Battle of the Atlantic, which secured the sea lanes to Britain; this in turn set the stage first for the decisive defeat of the Luftwaffe in early 1944, and then for D-Day. Yeah, I'd still like to read an explanation for that. The sea lanes were secured by Navy ships convoying cargo ships. At some point, I presume that the Navy ships got the new-fangled microwave radar. But radar doesn't operate underwater, so it wouln't help ships detect subs, and it wouldn't help subs detect ships. So what does radar have to do with submarines? I thought subs operated on SONAR, and ships are NOISY and can be detected passively just by listening.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 4:13 AM
Saturday, August 19, 2023 1:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Once upon a time I thought Paul Krugman was smart. Maybe he was. But's he's reduced himself to an inane blatherer of DNC/ neocon/ 'woke' orthodoxy. Quote: This was a major factor in the Allies’ 1943 victory in the Battle of the Atlantic, which secured the sea lanes to Britain; this in turn set the stage first for the decisive defeat of the Luftwaffe in early 1944, and then for D-Day. Yeah, I'd still like to read an explanation for that. The sea lanes were secured by Navy ships convoying cargo ships. At some point, I presume that the Navy ships got the new-fangled microwave radar. But radar doesn't operate underwater, so it wouln't help ships detect subs, and it wouldn't help subs detect ships. So what does radar have to do with submarines? I thought subs operated on SONAR, and ships are NOISY and can be detected passively just by listening. Germany had battleships and U-boat radio antennas that could not hide from radar. And German U-boats couldn't hide from High-frequency direction-finding. Those top-secret messages that were being decoded by the British code breakers were also the location beacons for the British sub-hunters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Atlantic#High-frequency_direction-finding The Germans, being who they were, didn't believe their coded messages could be read and didn't believe their radio antennas could be located and didn't believe they could lose a war since the German fighting spirit was invincible because Germans are real men, not like those British shopkeepers who can't fight. It turns out that the British realized they were either all dead or prisoners if they didn't become effective and competent warriors so the shopkeepers became what the UK needed. The Ukrainians are now in the same situation as the British once were. Either the Ukrainians become warriors or they die in the Russian prison Putin is constructing. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, August 19, 2023 1:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Not to belabor the point further, but something seems to be missing from the explanation. I can't fill in the pieces bc the only thing I know about WWII submarine technology is from WWII movies.
Quote: Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the “Vostok” battalion defending near Urozhaine, complained that Russian forces are not deploying additional reserves and artillery battalions to the area.[3] Khodakovsky claimed that the “Vostok” battalion is fighting for Urozhaine with all available forces but that the forces operating in the area are exhausted and suffering losses.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 1:16 PM
Saturday, August 19, 2023 1:25 PM
Quote: Can we topple Ukraine militarily? Not now and in the short term. When I talk to myself about our victory in this war, I do not mean that we will crawl, like them, forward, turning everything into bakhmuts in our path. And I don't envisage an easy occupation of cities.... We will enter the phase that is most disadvantageous to Ukraine in its "independent" state: the phase of neither peace nor war. We could find ourselves in this phase if, instead of the NWO, we recognized the territories and officially took them under guardianship. But that would be a very different twist on history.... In our reality, which has already taken place, things will come to a "truce". We began to have certain processes in the economy caused by the increased workload, but on the whole we withstood and caught the balance. We are balancing - not without it - but we are walking a tightrope. Remember the crisis of the eighth year, which was called the crisis of the banking system? Then only one bank collapsed, launching the domino principle, and we experienced a lot of bad things in a fairly short period of time. Now there is systematic pressure, but although we are warming up, we are holding on. With Ukraine, everything will be different. If in Russia we do not allow the internal situation to shake up, then with all our sores, our survivability is very high. Ukraine, on the other hand, is a completely different "physics". Both economically and politically is a construct that cannot survive on its own. Therefore, the project of independent Ukraine was not realized, turning into a project: "under whom to lie down." Unfortunately, the elites focused on Western money defeated the elites who wanted to milk Russia. Now the West gives mainly what can only bring destruction. When you read about the next help, you see there is not money that can be sawn, but iron that needs to be disposed of. You won't make much money on this. Therefore, at the exit from the upcoming phase, we will most likely face a global redistribution of Ukraine.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 1:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Bolton: Biden's policy towards Ukraine only delaying Kyiv's inevitable defeat to Russia: In other words, Ukraine is losing. K2PO: What were Bolton's actual words, where he said that?
Saturday, August 19, 2023 2:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote: Putin's right-hand man threatens nuclear apocalypse and 'direct confrontation' with NATO https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-right-hand-man-threatens-nuclear-apocalypse-and-direct-confrontation-with-nato/ar-AA1ftYYZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=486af8369b3c4301a14c4560edcb9d77&ei=100
Quote: Putin's right-hand man threatens nuclear apocalypse and 'direct confrontation' with NATO https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-right-hand-man-threatens-nuclear-apocalypse-and-direct-confrontation-with-nato/ar-AA1ftYYZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=486af8369b3c4301a14c4560edcb9d77&ei=100
Quote: said in an interview for the state-owned magazine The International Affairs, published on the Foreign Ministry website: "The possession of nuclear arms is today the only possible response to some of the significant external threats to the security of our country." Putin's right-hand man also warned NATO allies are risking "a situation of direct armed confrontation of nuclear powers". He further warned: "We believe such a development should be prevented. That's why we have to remind about the existence of high military and political risks and send sobering signals to our opponents."
Saturday, August 19, 2023 6:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So it was detection of U-boats by AIRCRAFT. You could have skipped the bit about the new searchlight.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 6:31 PM
Saturday, August 19, 2023 6:41 PM
Saturday, August 19, 2023 7:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: No, I got that point,that's why you didn't have to beat it to death But I think you don't get the point about war War isn't about killing "people" unless you're waging a genocidal war where you plan to replace the people living there (eg the American west), or you're fighting against a guerilla force supported by the local population). AFAIK conventional wars are about killing enemy soldiers and destroying enemy weaponry enough to cripple their military action.
Saturday, August 19, 2023 8:47 PM
Saturday, August 19, 2023 9:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I was aware. I've mentioned Dresden more than once. Also, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were militarily unimportant. There was also the bombing of London that was supposed to demoralize the Brits, but didn't. Bu targeting civilian centers is a WAR CRIME. Are you supporting war crimes?
Sunday, August 20, 2023 2:51 AM
Sunday, August 20, 2023 5:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND is an idiot. QED.
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