Russia Invades Ukraine. Again by captaincrunch

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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Monday, November 25, 2024 6:58 AM

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Russian forces have significantly increased the tempo of their advances in the Pokrovsk, Kurakhove, Vuhledar, and Velyka Novosilka directions since September 1, 2024, having gained at least 1,103 square kilometers in these areas since September 1, 2024. Russian forces, in contrast, only gained 387 square kilometers in all of 2023 due to Ukraine’s 2023 counteroffensive.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-november-24-2024

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Monday, November 25, 2024 2:56 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

SHADES OF VIETNAM!

Quote:
US Officials Discussed Giving Nuclear Weapons To Ukraine
Sunday, Nov 24, 2024 - 08:20 PM
Authored by Kyle Anzalone via AntiWar.com,

According to the New York Times, US and European officials have discussed a range of options they believe will deter Russia from taking more Ukrainian territory, including providing Kiev with nuclear weapons. The outlet reports that Western officials believe the Kremlin will not significantly escalate the war before Donald Trump is sworn in as President in January.

Following the election of Trump earlier this month, the US and its NATO allies began taking steps to rush weapons to Ukraine and give Kiev the ability to strike targets inside Russian territory with long-range weapons.

American officials who were briefed on the intelligence community’s assessments told the Times that weapons will not alter the challenging situation that Kiev is currently facing. "US spy agencies have assessed that speeding up the provisions of weapons, ammunition and matériel for Ukraine will do little to change the course of the war in the short term," the Times reports.

Desperate to bolster Ukraine’s standing in the war before the transition of power on January 20, the Biden administration is looking at a range of serious escalations. "US and European officials are discussing deterrence as a possible security guarantee for Ukraine, such as stockpiling a conventional arsenal sufficient to strike a punishing blow if Russia violates a cease-fire."

The article continues, "Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union."

MORE AT https://news.antiwar.com/2024/11/22/report-us-and-european-officials-d
iscussed-giving-ukraine-nuclear-weapons/. Originally sourced from NYT.

For those too young to remember, similar discussions took place just before our defeat in Vietnam, nuclear weapons were considered under both Johnson and Nixon.

But I brought this up to address YET ANOTHER embedded piece of disinfo

UKRAINE NEVER HAD NUCLEAR WEAPONS. There were nuclear weapons deployed in Ukraine, but they weren't Ukraine's and not under Ukraine's control. Saying that Ukraine had nuclear weapons is like saying that our nuclear weapons in Turkye belong to Turkye.

This is as fundamentally wrong as saying that the USA "allows" Ukraine to fire long(er) range missiles into Russia, when the reality is that Ukrainian technicians literally don't have access to targeting data and programming hardware and software. The ATACMS missiles are being launched by AMERICANS. Storm Shadow (UK), and Scalp (French) missiles also depend on USA targeting and mapping software.

This kind of fundamental disinformation obscures the risks that our neocons are exposing us to.

Oh, BTW, whatever happened to those ~~3000~~, ~~10,000~~, ~~30,000~~ N Korean soldiers in Kursk that served as the excuse for us launching long(er) range missiles into Russia?

They "evaporated", just like Saddam's "WMD".

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Tuesday, November 26, 2024 7:19 AM

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“Russia has set new weekly and monthly records for the size of the occupied territory in Ukraine,” independent Russian newsgroup Agentstvo said in a report.

The Russian army captured almost 235 sq km (91 sq miles) in Ukraine over the past seven days, a weekly record for 2024, it said.

Russian forces had taken 600 sq km (232 sq miles) in November, it added, citing data from DeepState, a group with close links to the Ukrainian army that studies combat footage and provides front line maps.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3288160/russia-advances
-ukraine-fastest-monthly-pace-start-war-analysts

Ukraine Area. • Total. 603,628 km2 (233,062 sq mi)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine

At the swift rate Russia is moving, only a thousand more months or 80 years until all of Ukraine is conquered.

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Tuesday, November 26, 2024 7:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Nobody cares.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2024 7:38 AM

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The Russian military's rate of advance since Fall 2024 has notably increased recently compared to its rate of advance in 2023 and the rest of 2024, but recent Western media reports comparing recent Russian gains to those at the start of Russia's full-scale invasion continue to mischaracterize the gradual and tactical nature of Russia's recent advances.[4] ISW assesses that Russian forces have gained 574 square kilometers since November 1, 2024 — an average rate of 22 square kilometers per day. This is remarkably less than the 1,265 square kilometers per day that ISW assesses Russian forces were gaining in March 2022. Reuter's November 26 report that Russian forces "control" over 80 percent of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts is also misleading.[5] ISW assesses that while Russian forces occupy roughly 99 percent of Luhansk Oblast, Russian forces only occupy about 66 percent of Donetsk Oblast. Russian forces have occupied almost the entirety of Luhansk Oblast since Fall 2022 but have occupied significantly less territory in Donetsk Oblast throughout the war. ISW recently assessed that Russian forces still need to seize over 8,000 square kilometers of territory to achieve the Kremlin's self-defined objective of seizing the territory of Donetsk Oblast.[6] Russian forces would seize the remainder of Donetsk Oblast in roughly one year should Russian forces continue their recent relatively quicker rate of advance — which is not a given. Russian forces notably have been bypassing Ukrainian strongpoints, and Ukraine still has several well-defended cities in Donetsk Oblast, such as Slovyansk and Kramatorsk, that Russian forces likely cannot seize as rapidly as they have with the rural fields near Pokrovsk. ISW continues to assess that Russian forces have not been able to restore operational maneuver to the battlefield to make deep penetrations into Ukrainian positions, as seen in the initial months of the full-scale invasion.[7] Russian forces have instead been exploiting identified vulnerabilities in Ukrainian defenses to make gradual advances.[8]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-november-26-2024

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Wednesday, November 27, 2024 7:39 AM

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How to lose a war: Kyiv pulls back 100,000 mortar rounds after failures

Investigation after troops complained of misfires

Ukraine’s defence ministry is investigating defective mortar shells after at least 100,000 Ukrainian-made 120mm rounds had to be removed from the frontline. Soldiers began saying in early November that the rounds failed to explode, remained stuck in the launcher or fell off target, according to private Ukrainian TV 1+1. The defence ministry confirmed it had stopped using them on the frontline “until the causes of the malfunction are determined” and seized part of the supply. Early findings pointed to poor-quality powder charges or violations of storage requirements, the ministry said. The Ukrainian news site Dzerkalo Tyjnia and the war journalist Yuriy Butusov shared the figure of 100,000 with the latter denouncing “criminal negligence”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/27/ukraine-war-briefing-kyi
v-pulls-back-100000-mortar-rounds-after-failures

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Wednesday, November 27, 2024 12:47 PM

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The Russians did it using a Chinese ship and bribing the captain:

Rogue Chinese ship cut a pair of Baltic Sea cables last week

https://jabberwocking.com/rogue-chinese-ship-cut-a-pair-of-baltic-sea-
cables-last-week/

Remember that Chinese bulk carrier suspected of cutting a couple of internet cables in the Baltic Sea? Apparently it's now a pretty open-and-shut case:

Investigators have established that the ship dropped anchor but remained under way in Swedish waters on Nov. 17 at around 9 p.m. local time. The dragging anchor cut the first cable between Sweden and Lithuania shortly afterward, according to two people familiar with the investigation.

During that time, the ship’s transponder, which charts its movements on the so-called Automatic Identification System, shut down in what is known as a “dark incident” in marine traffic jargon. The ship then continued even as the dragging anchor greatly reduced its speed, according to satellite and other data reviewed by investigators.

Investigators say that at around 3 a.m. the following day, having traveled about 111 miles, the Yi Peng 3 cut the second cable between Germany and Finland. Shortly afterward, the ship started zigzagging, raised anchor and continued. Danish Navy ships then set out to pursue and intercept the Yi Peng 3, ultimately forcing it to anchor in the Kattegat Strait, which connects the Baltic and the North seas.

The current belief is that China had nothing to with this. It was a rogue captain who was bribed by the Russians to do it. Oddly, although the ship's owner is "cooperating," the captain of the ship hasn't been questioned. Ditto for a Russian sailor onboard.

Oh, and this is the second time this has happened recently:

In October last year, a Chinese-registered vessel called Newnew Polar Bear cut the Baltic connector gas pipeline and a telecommunication cable connecting Finland and Estonia with its anchor, according to people familiar with the investigation into the case. Some officials briefed on the investigation said Russian sailors were aboard the Chinese ship at the time of that incident.

Newnew Polar Bear was allowed to proceed toward Arctic Russia because authorities in Sweden, Denmark and Norway didn’t want to halt the ship without sound legal backing, according to officials.

Sound legal backing or no, the Scandinavians have apparently had enough: "The Chinese bulk carrier is now guarded by a small flotilla of North Atlantic Treaty Organization ships belonging to Denmark, Germany and Sweden."

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Wednesday, November 27, 2024 12:47 PM

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German Defense Chief Suggests Russian Involvement in Lithuania Plane Crash

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/11/27/german-defense-chief-suggest
s-russian-involvement-in-lithuania-plane-crash-a87146

This week’s deadly DHL cargo plane crash in Lithuania aligns with a pattern of incidents across Europe earlier this year that were attributed to Russia, Germany’s highest-ranking military officer said Wednesday.

Chief of Defense Carsten Breuer suggested that Russia may have been “exploring vulnerabilities” when the aircraft crashed near Vilnius airport on Monday. The crash, which killed one crew member, saw the plane hit several buildings and skid for several hundred meters.

“We already experienced a similar situation this summer, and now something happened that fits somewhere into this pattern,” Breuer told the ARD public broadcaster.

In July, a series of igniting parcels at logistics depots in Germany and Poland were linked to an alleged Russian sabotage campaign, aimed at triggering explosions on cargo flights.

Lithuanian presidential adviser Kestutis Budrys said earlier this month that those parcel incidents were likely a test run. While British, German and Polish authorities are investigating, the Kremlin has dismissed the claims as “fake.”

However, Lithuanian Defense Minister Laurynas Kasciunas contradicted Breuer’s remarks, stating Wednesday that there were “no signs” of sabotage in the DHL crash.

Kasciunas said visual analysis of the wreckage showed no external impact on the aircraft as it attempted to land. Surviving crew members also denied any disturbances, such as smoke or unusual odors, on board prior to the crash.

The crash remains under investigation, with authorities working to determine the cause.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2024 5:11 PM

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A reminder that the government of Russia jails citizens who contradict the government's tall tales and highfalutin stories about Ukraine:

Jailed Moscow politician urges end to Ukraine war at start of new terrorism trial

By Lucy Papachristou | November 27, 2024 5:57 AM CST

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/jailed-moscow-politician-urges-en
d-ukraine-war-start-new-terrorism-trial-2024-11-27/

A Moscow district councillor serving a seven-year sentence for criticising Russia's invasion of Ukraine staged an anti-war protest from the courtroom cage on Wednesday at the start of a new trial against him on charges of justifying terrorism.

In summer 2022 Alexei Gorinov became the first individual in Russia to be jailed under a wartime censorship law, introduced soon after the invasion launched that February, which punished the dissemination of "deliberately false information" about the Russian army.

He is now charged by Russian prosecutors with "justifying terrorism" for alleged conversations he had with cellmates about Ukraine's Azov battalion, which Moscow considers a terrorist group, and the bombing of a bridge in Russian-annexed Crimea, independent outlet Mediazona reported.

Gorinov, 63, risks up to five more years in prison if found guilty.

His lawyers and supporters have voiced concerns about his health in prison, where they say Gorinov regularly suffers from bronchitis and is sometimes forced to shovel snow while ill.

From behind the bars of the defendants' cage in the city of Vladimir east of Moscow, Gorinov held up a sign on Wednesday reading "Stop killing" and "Let's stop the war", accompanied by a drawing of a peace sign.

Opposition politician Ilya Yashin, who was freed from a Russian prison in an East-West exchange in August, hailed Gorinov as an "indomitable" voice of protest and urged that he be included in a future prisoner swap.

"Behind him are almost three years of prison cells and prison transfers, constant pressure and ruined health," Yashin wrote on Telegram. "But Alexei raises an anti-war poster in court again."

Public protest against the war is rare in Russia, which has cracked down on any opposition to the Kremlin's policies with lengthy prison sentences, but dissidents such as the late Alexei Navalny have used their right to speak in court as an opportunity to express dissent.

In July 2022, Gorinov, a former member of the Krasnoselsky district council in Moscow, was sentenced to seven years in prison after he told a council meeting that Russia was waging a war of aggression against Ukraine.

Dmitry Muratov, a Nobel Prize-winning Russian newspaper editor, said in a YouTube broadcast that other prisoners were given hidden microphones and planted in Gorinov's cell, where they were instructed to provoke him to speak about the war in Ukraine.

Reuters could not independently verify that accusation.
Prosecutors say Gorinov spread ideologies promoting terrorism among four fellow inmates while he was being treated for pneumonia in prison in January 2023. His remarks touched on attacks on the Crimean Bridge and the actions of the Azov battalion, Mediazona reported.

Gorinov denied the terrorism charge on Wednesday, the outlet said.

"I have nothing to do with your terrorism and never have in my entire life," he told the court.

"I was imprisoned for seven years only for speaking out... about the fact that civilians are suffering and children are dying during the war," Gorinov said.

"Life has shown that I was right."

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Wednesday, November 27, 2024 5:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

You get thrown in prison in the UK for speaking out about your political opponents online too. It's happening all over the country right now.

You guys hate Russia so much, but you try to emulate them whenever you can.

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Thursday, November 28, 2024 6:06 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

In this thread about Russia invading Ukraine, SECOND and THGR post very little about that.

Must be because Russia is rolling over the Ukrainian Army.

Biden* is desperate to not have to acknowledge a defeat on his watch, so he's throwing everything he can into Ukraine with the idea Russia might hesitate to respond, but instead prefer to wait until Trump comes into office. I dunno. If I were Ptin I might decude to strike as many western techs/ troops as I could find in Ukraine. I

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Thursday, November 28, 2024 6:34 AM

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Lacking manpower, Ukraine resorts to harsh means to force draft dodgers into combat

A U.S. official said Ukraine should consider dropping the age of military conscription from 25 to 18.

It's a stark acknowledgment that Ukraine doesn't have enough troops.

Nov 27, 2024

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/lacking-manpower-ukraine-resorts-to-
harsh-means-to-force-draft-dodgers-into-combat

In April, Ukraine’s parliament passed a series of laws, including one lowering its draft-eligible age for men from 27 to 25, aimed at broadening the universe of men who could be called on to join the grinding war.

Those laws also did away with some draft exemptions and created an online registry for recruits. They were expected to add about 50,000 troops, far short of what Zelenskyy said at the time was needed.

Zelenskyy has consistently stated that he has no plans to lower the mobilization age. A senior Ukrainian official, who was not authorized to comment publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity, said Ukraine does not have enough equipment to match the scale of its ongoing mobilization efforts.

The official said Ukrainian officials see the push to the lower the draft age as part of an effort by some Western partners to deflect attention from their own delays in providing equipment or belated decisions.

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-war-biden-draft-08e3bad195585b7c3d9
662819cc5618f

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Thursday, November 28, 2024 6:47 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You get thrown in prison in the UK for speaking out about your political opponents online too. It's happening all over the country right now.

You guys hate Russia so much, but you try to emulate them whenever you can.

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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

Who? Who in the UK? Russia has thrown thousands into prison for not supporting the war, but this particular prisoner, Alexei Gorinov, is special because he is already in prison for not supporting the war and the Russians want to throw him into even more prison because he has NOT changed his mind and become a war supporter. Also, Russian children are being given failing grades if they do NOT write letters to soldiers. Russia is a completely fucked up country. It is no wonder Russia is poor compared to the EU nor is it difficult to understand why North Korea is poor compared to South Korea. People who are fucked up in the head tend to not be able to concentrate on the tasks necessary to prosper. You should know, 6ix, because you have been fucked up in the head for decades.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-schoolchildren-given-fail
-grades-for-refusing-to-write-letters-to-soldiers/ar-AA1uSwog

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Thursday, November 28, 2024 7:11 AM

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Russian dead and wounded point toward a Ukrainian strategy for victory

By David Axe | Nov 27, 2024, 09:33pm EST

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/11/27/a-russian-recruit-has
-a-one-month-life-expectancy-after-signing-up-for-the-war-in-ukraine/

As Russian forces press their attacks all along the 800-mile front line of Russia’s 33-month wider war on Ukraine, a new recruit in the Russian armed forces has a one-month life expectancy after signing his contract, according to Estonian analyst Artur Rehi.

The brutally short life expectancy of new Russian soldiers should come as no surprise. Determined to capture as much of Ukraine as possible as fast as possible, the Kremlin is hurling unprepared troops against Ukrainian defenses in badly led assaults lacking key support.

That Russia can maintain its forward momentum on the battlefield despite catastrophic losses is one of the great paradoxes of the wider war. But there are reasons to believe the paradox is unsustainable. There’s evidence Russia is finally running out of people.

In late 2023, the Estonian defense ministry crunched the numbers and concluded that Ukraine would ensure Russia’s defeat in 2025 by killing or maiming 100,000 Russian troops in 2024. In fact, the Ukrainians may have killed or maimed around 300,000 Russians so far this year.

To set conditions for a kind of victory, Ukraine should prolong the great Russian die-off.

Given Ukraine’s struggles with recruitment and its own heavy losses—up to 100,000 dead and perhaps 400,000 wounded, according to The Economist—that might mean continuing doing what the Ukrainians have been doing since late 2023: trading territory for the opportunity to inflict massive casualties on the advancing Russians.

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