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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Friday, May 9, 2025 11:53 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:02 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: If all they were fighting was Ukraine, that would have been over in three days tops.
Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: If all they were fighting was Ukraine, that would have been over in three days tops.Poor little Russia hasn't won after years of fighting the wealthy and enormous country called Ukraine because hordes of Nazis are fighting alongside the Ukrainians. That is the standard Russian excuse for why Russia has not won, yet. Russian revisionism ahead of 9 May: ‘Modern Europe is reincarnated Nazism’ https://euvsdisinfo.eu/russian-revisionism-ahead-of-9-may-modern-europe-is-reincarnated-nazism/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Oh... Wait a minute.... All this time. You thought and you still think this is a one-vs-one conflict? Oh. You poor thing. Nah. We just sent millions of men to their death for some rich people in the US and other countries and sat back threw a few cargo ships worth of fiat currency at the problem. No problem at all for us. Barely an inconvenience. We're already making those money printers go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR practically 24/7 already. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:34 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by THG: I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer. tick tock
Quote: Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.
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Quote: Ukrainian sources previously reported that Russian forces were trying to seize Pokrovsk, Chasiv Yar, Toretsk, and the remaining area of Luhansk Oblast and advance into Dnipropetrovsk Oblast by Victory Day on May 9.
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Quote: French Media Rushes To Quash Claims Macron, Merz & Starmer Caught Hiding Cocaine On Kiev-Bound Train Sunday, May 11, 2025 - 09:00 AM French media are on the defensive after journalists unexpectedly entered a train carriage carrying French President Emmanuel Macron, along with the German and British Prime Ministers, en route to Kyiv on Friday, which sparked a firestorm on social media with allegations of cocaine use by the top leaders. "They [social media users] cite videos that allegedly show Emmanuel Macron discreetly hiding a strange white bag on the table," the French daily newspaper Libération said, adding, "And according to these accounts, Friedrich Merz even had a straw to use to take drugs. These conspiracy accusations fit with the narrative that Western elites are depraved and approach war unconsciously." When reporters entered the room, Macron was meeting with German Chancellor Friedrich Merz and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer on a train ride from Poland to Ukraine.
Sunday, May 11, 2025 11:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: French Media Rushes To Quash Claims Macron, Merz & Starmer Caught Hiding Cocaine On Kiev-Bound Train Sunday, May 11, 2025 - 09:00 AM French media are on the defensive after journalists unexpectedly entered a train carriage carrying French President Emmanuel Macron, along with the German and British Prime Ministers, en route to Kyiv on Friday, which sparked a firestorm on social media with allegations of cocaine use by the top leaders. "They [social media users] cite videos that allegedly show Emmanuel Macron discreetly hiding a strange white bag on the table," the French daily newspaper Libération said, adding, "And according to these accounts, Friedrich Merz even had a straw to use to take drugs. These conspiracy accusations fit with the narrative that Western elites are depraved and approach war unconsciously." When reporters entered the room, Macron was meeting with German Chancellor Friedrich Merz and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer on a train ride from Poland to Ukraine. IMHO, after seeing the video, I can't think of any other possible explanation. How else to explain the items and furtive actions? https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1921568553553240099 Persistent allegations that Z is a coke-head, too. If so, sounds like Hitler high on amphetamines. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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Quote: Putin is primarily concerned with two issues FACTS. One is the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Third Reich and the Soviet Union, which Western historians have long believed “paved the way for the outbreak of the Second World War.” Putin holds that Stalin had no choice but to sign the pact with Germany. The other is the decisive role that the Soviet Union played in defeating the Nazis, which Putin believes other nations fail adequately to recognize.
Monday, May 12, 2025 4:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Putin is primarily concerned with two issues FACTS. One is the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Third Reich and the Soviet Union, which Western historians have long believed “paved the way for the outbreak of the Second World War.” Putin holds that Stalin had no choice but to sign the pact with Germany. The other is the decisive role that the Soviet Union played in defeating the Nazis, which Putin believes other nations fail adequately to recognize. . Since both of these are true facts, what's the problem? ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Monday, May 12, 2025 5:54 PM
Monday, May 12, 2025 6:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Putin is primarily concerned with two issues FACTS. One is the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Third Reich and the Soviet Union, which Western historians have long believed “paved the way for the outbreak of the Second World War.” Putin holds that Stalin had no choice but to sign the pact with Germany. The other is the decisive role that the Soviet Union played in defeating the Nazis, which Putin believes other nations fail adequately to recognize. . Since both of these are true facts, what's the problem? ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA If Ukrainians surrendered to Putin, no Ukrainians would have died, not even the top-most Nazis who would flee to the EU. That's story Putin tells about his little Russians of Ukraine.
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Monday, May 12, 2025 6:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Second's delusions are so much more interesting than Teds are, Sigs. You can tell that at one point Second was probably highly intelligent before the brain trauma, so it's kind of fascinating watching how his broken brain functions over the span of a decade. Ted is just the same 65 IQ dumb shit Ted always was. Look at him go with those political cartoons again today after I ripped him 8 new assholes last night. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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Quote: Pepe Escobar 'Decodes' The Istanbul Kabuki Sunday, May 18, 2025 - 08:20 PM Authored by Pepe Escobar, Did President Putin really change the game by proposing the resumption of negotiations on the proxy war in Ukraine in Istanbul – over three years after the first ones were scotched by NATO? It’s complicated. And depends on which “game” we’re talking about. What the Russian move instantly accomplished was to throw into total disarray the European warmongering Three Stooges (Starmer, BlackRock chancellor, Le Petit Roi) Cocaine Express. Irrelevant Europe was not even at the table in Istanbul – except via extensive previous briefing of the low-rent, shabby-dressed Ukrainian delegation. That was compounded by the noisy barking threat in the sidelines advocating “more sanctions” to “pressure Russia”. In March 2022 in Istanbul, Kiev could have stopped the war. Every one of us who were in Istanbul at the time could foresee that Kiev would eventually have to be forced to the table all over again. So in essence we are back to the same negotiation – with the same top Russian negotiator, competent historian Vladimir Medinsky, heading a delegation composed by pros, but with Ukraine now facing over a million dead; deprived of at least four regions – more on the way; what’s left of its mineral wealth de facto controlled by the US; and a horrendous black hole that passes for an “economy”. We are talking about country 404 territory. During the negotiations on Friday, Medinsky went straight to the point: “We don’t want war, but we are ready to fight for a year, two, three – as long as it takes. We fought with Sweden for 21 years [the Great Northern War, 1700-1721, as it is known in Russia]. How long are you ready to fight?” That’s the geopolitical/military state of things for Kiev and their “to the last Ukrainian” warmongering backers: either you capitulate, or we’re going to hurt you even more. What’s the point of these negotiations? Turkiye under uber-opportunist Sultan Erdogan in fact hosted a P.R. meeting between Moscow, Kiev and itself – with the Ukrainians unleashing a blitzkrieg of infantile tantrums only designed to influence global public opinion. In sharp contrast, the head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, Kirill Dmitriev, did his best to put a positive spin on the proceedings. Istanbul 2.0, Dmitriev asserted, achieved a large exchange of prisoners (1,000 on each side); ceasefire options to be presented by both sides; and a continuation of dialogue. That’s not much. Well, at least they discussed in the same language: Russian. Nothing was lost in translation. A serious case can be made that to propose the resumption of these negotiations, under this format, was meaningless. There’s no evidence in the horizon both parties might touch the fundamental issue anytime soon: the whole geopolitical strategic equation in Eastern Europe, from the Barents Sea to the Black Sea and beyond – leading to an “indivisibility of security” new deal with global repercussions.
Quote: That implies that whatever track these negotiations may follow further on down the road, they are an objective impossibility. Meanwhile, the proxy war in Ukraine – and the SMO – will go on. That would also suggest that the Moscow security establishment considers the neo-nazi instrumentalized goons in Kiev at best as a re-enactment of the 6th Army of Paulus, with which you negotiate the end of a battle, but not the end of the war. Even NATO semi-realists as retired Commodore Steven Jermy have been forced to admit that “Russia is in the driving seat” and clueless Europeans “appear to believe that the losers should dictate the terms of ceasefire or surrender.” All the barking by the – European – chihuahuas of war cannot disguise the fundamental geopolitical/military fact: a massive NATO humiliation. Trump’s humongous problem is that he has to manage it – and sell it to domestic public opinion and the global public opinion as some sort of “deal” he struck with Putin.
Quote: It’s enlightening once again to go back to Grandmaster Lavrov, always the uber-realist, back in September 2024: “In April 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators reached agreement in Istanbul. If that agreement had been observed, Ukraine would have preserved part of Donbass. But every time another agreement, always accepted by Russia, is broken, Ukraine shrinks in size.” The (Great) Game, revisited Now back to the (Great) Game. Kiev negotiators eventually admitting Ukrainian capitulation means a NATO capitulation and an Empire of Chaos capitulation. That’s the ultimate anathema for the US ruling classes. Even an ultra-negotiated, carefully managed Ukrainian surrender will be an impossible sell – not to mention Washington under Narcissus Drowned Trump acknowledging a strategic defeat. Because that will mean the Empire of Chaos losing Eurasia for good: the ultimate Mackinder/Brzezinski nightmare. Coupled with the consequential solidification of the multi-nodal, multipolar world. The Russia-China stategic partnership is very much aware of every nook and cranny in this larger-than-life process. Beyond the current Turkish kabuki, they clearly understand the Big Eurasia Equation. Beijing is fully aware NATO’s real goal was always to confront it via Russia. Ukraine was NATO’s pawn to take down Russia then get to China from the West. The goal of the US ruling elites as they configured their thalassocratic empire remains to blockade China from the West by land and sea, using Russia; then use Taiwan as a staging area to blockade China from the East by sea. No wonder control of Taiwan is a Chinese strategic imperative. Enter Mackinder panic – all over again: the China-Russia strategic partnership can beat NATO hands down – and Russia, by itself, is already doing it. Xi and Putin once again discussed the chessboard in detail, in person, prior to the Victory Day parade last week in Moscow. The endgame, once again, is clear: the US losing the entire Eurasian land mass. Ukraine, under these immense geopolitical imperatives, is only a sovereign-deprived pawn in the (Great) Game. As for the tantrum-addicted clown in Kiev, he is merely an actor with no authority whatsoever, negotiations included. He is completely dominated by Ukrainian neo-Nazis who will kill him if and when the war is over. He merely fronts for them and gets paid off. And that’s why – enthusiastically supported by inconsequential London, Paris and Berlin – he’s obsessed to continue a Forever War destroying the very nation he claims to represent
Monday, May 19, 2025 4:04 AM
Quote: Why Putin is being so dismissive of the talks and Trump’s supposed plan...
Monday, May 19, 2025 7:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: We - the collective west- started an existential fight with Russia without ever asking ourselves "What happens if we can't win?" And I mean existential for BOTH sides. Sure, we thought we were being clever by working thru a proxy, but everyone knows by now that, with our "everything-but" involvement in the war, if Ukraine is defeated it's a defeat for NATO. An no amount of lipstick is gonna change that pig of an outcome.
Monday, May 19, 2025 8:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Is because Russia is clearly winning the war. Trump has no cards to play, and Zelensky is in dire straits. Neither of them can make Russia do anything.
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Monday, May 19, 2025 2:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Is because Russia is clearly winning the war. Trump has no cards to play, and Zelensky is in dire straits. Neither of them can make Russia do anything. Putin is killing Russians with his incompetent military strategy. He will send all of them to the slaughterhouse until he is replaced. That is the opposite of "winning the war".
Monday, May 19, 2025 6:23 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Is because Russia is clearly winning the war. Trump has no cards to play, and Zelensky is in dire straits. Neither of them can make Russia do anything. Putin is killing Russians with his incompetent military strategy. He will send all of them to the slaughterhouse until he is replaced. That is the opposite of "winning the war". When Russia wins the war, will you FINALLY stop believing your bullshit sources
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