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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 2:08 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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"For three years, we’ve been warning that the Russians are preparing a provocation — specifically, plans to seize part of the Baltic states, declare sovereignty there, and cover it with nuclear weapons. This would demonstrate NATO's weakness and give Russia its greatest geopolitical victory,” the expert explained.


In the meantime, Baltic states have attempted to seize ships in international waters that they suspect of being part of a "ghost fleet", leading Russia to consider armed convoys for commercial ships.

We don't have to worry about a Russian provocation. The chihuahua nations are already yapping and snapping.

Signym, I strongly suspect you were raised on the Russian version of Baltic History. The Baltic Version of Baltic History goes like this:

While there has been a broad international consensus that the Baltic states were illegally occupied and annexed, the Soviet Union never acknowledged that they were forcefully taken over. The post-Soviet government of Russia maintains the claim that the incorporation of the Baltic states was in accordance with international law, and Russian school textbooks state that the Baltic states voluntarily joined the Soviet Union after home-grown popular socialist revolutions. As most Western governments maintained that Baltic sovereignty had not been legitimately overridden, they thus continued to recognize the Baltic states as sovereign political entities represented by the Baltic Legations, which functioned in Washington and elsewhere as governments in exile.

During the 1944–1991 Soviet occupation, many people from Russia and other parts of the former USSR were settled in the three Baltic countries, while the local languages, religion, and customs were suppressed in an "extremely violent and traumatic" occupation. Colonization of the three Baltic countries included mass executions, deportations, and repression of the native population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states

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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 2:12 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

ZELENSKY et al fucked themselves hard by going after Russian strategic assets. Both Russia AND the USA have reason to be pissed. Russia says they aren't going to retaliate. Trump, tho, IS apparently retaliating by withholding weapons.

The current hellfire being rained down on Ukraine has nothing to do with Ukraine’s drone strike or their terrorist attack on a passenger train. (The saboteurs waited until a passenger train was on the bridge before blowing it, killing 7 and injuring over 100.) The current combined missile and drone attack needed to have been planned at least several weeks in advance- targets identified, missiles and drones programmed, etc etc. Russia's aerial attack is more probably related to their summer offensive, which seems to have started a couple of weeks ago.

A Russian source for the Duran, however, did say that in response to the terror attack on the passenger train, Russia is in the process of authorizing an assassination of some Ukrainian officials. And if some unintended people are killed ... oh well. Not sure if this is for real or just psyops to sow fear into Kiev's security state, but if it happens I won't be surprised.

Russia treats terrorists very differently than soldiers, and if they upgrade the SMO to an ATO (anti-terror operation) the gloves will come off even more. That includes assassinating those they decide are terrorists.

Meanwhile....

Quote:

Russia Expands Ground War Into Ukraine's Dnipropetrovsk Region For First Time

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-expands-ground-war-ukrai
nes-dnipropetrovsk-region-first-time





Gabbard warns of ‘nuclear holocaust’ in ominous social media video

The director of national intelligence said the world is “closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before.”

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard warned of a “nuclear holocaust” and chastised “warmongers” for bringing the world “closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before” in a foreboding video posted to social media on Tuesday.

In the three-minute video, Gabbard details a recent visit to Hiroshima, Japan to learn more about the aftermath of the U.S. nuclear attack on the city in 1945 during World War II. The video features footage of Gabbard’s trip and archival footage showing victims, interspersed with Gabbard speaking directly to camera about the consequences of a nuclear attack.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/10/tulsi-gabbard-nuclear-weapons
-00396586


It was said she was a Russian sympathizer from day one. Just like you comrade signym, just like you. You just don't have the courage to say it.

Gabbard is spreading Russian propaganda just like Trump. Trump was Jeffery Epstein's best friend for 15 years. Putin has the goods on Trump being a pedophile. It's that simple.



This may have nothing to do with Russia. You don't know the deliberations going on behind the scenes. May be related to IRAN. Trump is being advised "all options" related to Iran, and when they say "all" they mean INCLUDING NUCLEAR.

Long story: Iran is a NUCLEAR THRESHHOLD NATION. They have a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium. One more step and it becomes weapons grade. (You only need about 3% for power generation.) They have sophisticated missiles capable of withstanding the heat of re-entry without frying its electronics.

Netanyahu still was refusing a deal with Iran allowing appx 3% enrichment which means no deal. The only MILITARY way to deal with Iran's nuclear facilities, buried deep underground, is with a nuclear weapon.

So ....








Why would it be Iran comrade? You can't trigger a nuclear war with a country that doesn't have nukes. Besides, this is a Putin talking point. Instead of coming to Putin's aid so quickly, try thinking things through before you post. It will save you some embarrassment.

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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 2:37 PM

THG


T

RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT DESTROYED ON RUNWAY, IRAN REJECTS NUKE DEAL!






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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 2:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

ZELENSKY et al fucked themselves hard by going after Russian strategic assets. Both Russia AND the USA have reason to be pissed. Russia says they aren't going to retaliate. Trump, tho, IS apparently retaliating by withholding weapons.

The current hellfire being rained down on Ukraine has nothing to do with Ukraine’s drone strike or their terrorist attack on a passenger train. (The saboteurs waited until a passenger train was on the bridge before blowing it, killing 7 and injuring over 100.) The current combined missile and drone attack needed to have been planned at least several weeks in advance- targets identified, missiles and drones programmed, etc etc. Russia's aerial attack is more probably related to their summer offensive, which seems to have started a couple of weeks ago.

A Russian source for the Duran, however, did say that in response to the terror attack on the passenger train, Russia is in the process of authorizing an assassination of some Ukrainian officials. And if some unintended people are killed ... oh well. Not sure if this is for real or just psyops to sow fear into Kiev's security state, but if it happens I won't be surprised.

Russia treats terrorists very differently than soldiers, and if they upgrade the SMO to an ATO (anti-terror operation) the gloves will come off even more. That includes assassinating those they decide are terrorists.

Meanwhile....

Quote:

Russia Expands Ground War Into Ukraine's Dnipropetrovsk Region For First Time

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-expands-ground-war-ukrai
nes-dnipropetrovsk-region-first-time


THG:
Gabbard warns of ‘nuclear holocaust’ in ominous social media video

The director of national intelligence said the world is “closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before.”

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard warned of a “nuclear holocaust” and chastised “warmongers” for bringing the world “closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before” in a foreboding video posted to social media on Tuesday.

In the three-minute video, Gabbard details a recent visit to Hiroshima, Japan to learn more about the aftermath of the U.S. nuclear attack on the city in 1945 during World War II. The video features footage of Gabbard’s trip and archival footage showing victims, interspersed with Gabbard speaking directly to camera about the consequences of a nuclear attack.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/10/tulsi-gabbard-nuclear-weapons
-00396586


It was said [BY WHO?] she was a Russian sympathizer from day one. Just like you comrade signym, just like you. You just don't have the courage to say it.

Gabbard is spreading Russian propaganda just like Trump. Trump was Jeffery Epstein's best friend for 15 years. Putin has the goods on Trump being a pedophile. It's that simple.

SIGNY:
This may have nothing to do with Russia. You don't know the deliberations going on behind the scenes. May be related to IRAN. Trump is being advised "all options" related to Iran, and when they say "all" they mean INCLUDING NUCLEAR.

Long story: Iran is a NUCLEAR THRESHHOLD NATION. They have a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium. One more step and it becomes weapons grade. (You only need about 3% for power generation.) They have sophisticated missiles capable of withstanding the heat of re-entry without frying its electronics.

Netanyahu still was refusing a deal with Iran allowing appx 3% enrichment which means no deal. The only MILITARY way to deal with Iran's nuclear facilities, buried deep underground, is with a nuclear weapon.

So ....

THG:
Why would it be Iran comrade? You can't trigger a nuclear war with a country that doesn't have nukes. Besides, this is a Putin talking point. Instead of coming to Putin's aid so quickly, try thinking things through before you post. It will save you some embarrassment.



Not embarrassed.
It's not all about Russia.
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the "nuclear threshhold" concept and the non-proliferation treaty.
People familiar with nuclear weapons treaties, who have done inspections for nuclear treaties, are worried about it.
I'm not smarter about the issue than he is and neither are you.



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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 3:22 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

War Brewing? US Prepares Departure Of All Nonessential Staff From Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain Embassies

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/war-brewing-us-prepares-departu
re-all-nonessential-staff-iraq-kuwait-bahrain-embassies


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US military authorizes voluntary departure of troops' dependents across Mideast, officials say

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-prepares-order-departure-nonessential-175
510594.html


See what I mean?

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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 3:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


#Rootin4Putin

Fuck Ukraine.

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Thursday, June 12, 2025 3:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just to drive a point home, THG:

Israel considering military strike on Iran, sources say
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/israel-consider
ing-military-strike-on-iran-sources-say/3766314
/

Boy, you REALLY think you know it all, dontcha? And on that base of complete, utter bullshit, you think you're gonna tell me what I'm thinking and where my 'sympathies' are?

You've got Russia on the brain, dood.

Oh, and BTW ...Russia is going to win in Ukraine.



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Thursday, June 12, 2025 5:12 AM

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Russian developers are increasingly relying on Chinese components to integrate artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) capabilities into Russian drones and expand the use of AI/ML drones on the frontlines in Ukraine. Ukraine's Main Military Intelligence Directorate's (GUR) War&Sanctions project reported on June 9 that Russian forces are actively using V2U strike unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) in the Sumy direction.[3] The War&Sanctions project reported that V2U drones can autonomously search and select targets using AI and that these drones are based on the Chinese Leetop A203 minicomputer and a central processor with an American NVIDIA Jetson Orin module. The War&Sanctions project reported that V2U drones only have one GPS module, which the GUR assessed indicated that Russian forces gave up on using satellite navigation due to Ukrainian electronic warfare (EW) effectiveness. The War&Sanctions project added that V2Us are likely using "computer vision" for navigation, which allows the drone to compare the image obtained from the drones' cameras and pre-loaded photos of the area. The War&Sanctions project noted that Russian drone operators can control the V2U drones as first-person-view (FPV) drones via LTE connection and that an installed modem-router allows the drone to work with Ukrainian mobile operator SIM cards. The War&Sanctions project reported that the base of the modem is of Chinese origin despite Russian markings. The War&Sanctions project added that Russian developers assembled V2U drones mainly with Chinese-made components such as the engine, GPS module, servos, solid-state drive, rangefinder, speed controllers, and batteries. ISW recently assessed that Russia has been increasingly scaling up the development of drones with machine vision in Spring 2025 and increased their use on the battlefield in May 2025.[4]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-force-generation
-and-technological-adaptations-update-june-11-2025


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 5:15 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
#Rootin4Putin

Fuck Ukraine.

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The Kremlin continues to attack Ukraine using rhetoric presenting an anachronistic reading of Ukraine's history, denying the existence of an independent Ukrainian language and culture, and discrediting the Ukrainian government. Russian Presidential Aide Vladimir Medinsky claimed to the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) in an interview published on June 11 that the war in Ukraine is a war between two countries with a shared language and culture and likened the war to "a conflict between two brothers."[4] Medinsky's statement is consistent with other Kremlin rhetoric attempting to portray Ukraine as lacking an independent identity and statehood from Russia — reflective of Russia's war goals that seek Ukraine's complete capitulation to Russia and the installation of a pro-Russian puppet government.[5]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-11-2025-0


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 5:18 AM

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Russian officials continue to promote anti-NATO and anti-Western rhetoric, likely as part of the Kremlin's continued efforts to prepare Russian society for a potential future war against NATO. Ryabkov claimed in the TASS interview published on June 9 that NATO expansion is an "acute problem" and a "root cause" of the contradictions between the United States and Russia, and that it will be impossible to resolve the war in Ukraine without solving the problem of NATO.[14] Ryabkov stated that the Kremlin demanded a legally binding, long-term guarantee from the United States and NATO in December 2021 that NATO would not expand further nor deploy long-range weapons near the NATO-Russia border.[15] Ryabkov reiterated that the Kremlin's position on this matter remains unchanged and called for NATO to reduce the size of the NATO contingent in Eastern Europe. Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) Spokesperson Maria Zakharova overstated on June 11 NATO defensive measures in Eastern Europe and claimed that NATO General Secretary Mark Rutte is trying to intimidate the population of NATO countries by saying that Russia is a threat to NATO.[16] Russian officials have long used anti-Western and anti-NATO rhetoric to justify and consolidate domestic support for a protracted war against Ukraine and to prepare the Russian domestic audience for a potential future conflict against NATO.[17]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-11-2025-0


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 10:49 AM

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Stark statistics paint a picture of huge Ukraine war losses

Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine has proven extremely costly for the Russian military, with the Ukrainian General Staff announcing that one million Russian soldiers have been killed since the war began on February 24, 2022.

By Ryan Fahey and John O'sullivan | 08:06 ET, 12 Jun 2025

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/putin-russia-ukraine-war-353796
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Historically, Russia sacrificed an estimated 27 to 42 million people during World War II to overcome the Nazi invasion. Putin likely views the current losses as a necessary step toward national glory.

Dr Stephen Hall, a political science lecturer at the University of Bath, suggests Putin will persist in this bloody pursuit, convinced of eventual victory, reports the Mirror.

In a discussion with The Sun, Dr Hall remarked: "Putin believes he's winning the war. The Russian army is moving forward like it or not. He believes that he can outlast the West, that the West is weak."

Dr. Hall suggests that Russia is employing a "meat assault" strategy, reminiscent of tactics used in World War Two. This approach, favored by ruthless Soviet leaders like Stalin, involves overwhelming the enemy with sheer numbers - a case of "ten men to every rifle".

This brutal tactic means soldiers are expected to pick up the weapons of their fallen comrades and continue fighting until they too are killed. Despite the high casualty rate, this method eventually led to the breaching of enemy frontlines during the Soviet era.

According to Dr. Hall, Russians' ability to endure hardship makes them ideal candidates for this sacrificial strategy. In many nations, such a significant loss of young lives could lead to societal collapse, but the Russian populace remains calm, largely due to misinformation from the Kremlin.

Dr. Hall explains: "They're simply not going to be told, especially in the poorer areas where Russia is recruiting - like Buryatia and Bashkortostan and elsewhere."

As international pressure mounts on Kyiv and Moscow to resolve the conflict, Dr. Hall remains skeptical about the prospects of lasting peace. He believes that even if Ukraine were to cede some of its territory, Putin would not accept it as he views himself as defending the motherland against Western influence.

In Dr. Hall's words: "Putin has been very clear. They're not fighting Ukraine. Ukraine is the battleground. They're fighting the West."

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Thursday, June 12, 2025 12:26 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:


War Brewing? US Prepares Departure Of All Nonessential Staff From Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain Embassies


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/war-brewing-us-prepares-departu
re-all-nonessential-staff-iraq-kuwait-bahrain-embassies


Quote:

US military authorizes voluntary departure of troops' dependents across Mideast, officials say

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-prepares-order-departure-nonessential-175
510594.html


See what I mean?






Wow, every time I challenge you; you go off topic or post subjective bullshit to make yourself look correct. This time it’s both. Our troops are preparing for repercussions from Iran due to Israel potentially bombing Iran. And while it is about stopping Iran from getting the bomb, they surely don’t have one. Nor are they suggesting they intend to use one.

Putin has; Russia has been threating that forever. They keep suggesting if Europe does this, or America does that, including helping Ukraine, it could ignite a global nuclear war. No, Gabbard was pushing Putins' propaganda for him.

Again, I'll remind you that zerohedge is a propaganda blog you use when the facts don't match what you want them to. So you go to a place that makes them up. I'll repost the thread to remind you.

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Thursday, June 12, 2025 8:40 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


No, son. YOU posted that Tulsi Gabbard was warning against a nuclear risk, and since YOU posted in the Russia thread, the implication was that it's a RUSSIAN nuclear threat.

I was redirecting your RUSSIA!RUSSIA! paranoia to another, MORE LIKELY RISK, which is the mideast.


Quote:

Israel Launches Airstrikes On Tehran: Stock Futures Plunge; Oil And Gold Soar


I was right, and you were wrong.
You should have posted in the "Who Hates Israel" thread.

You have Russia on the brain. Stop it. Seriously. It's bad for you.


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 9:07 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No, son. YOU posted that Tulsi Gabbard was warning against a nuclear risk, and since YOU posted in the Russia thread, the implication was that it's a RUSSIAN nuclear threat.

I was redirecting your RUSSIA!RUSSIA! paranoia to another, MORE LIKELY RISK, which is the mideast.


Quote:

Israel Launches Airstrikes On Tehran: Stock Futures Plunge; Oil And Gold Soar


I was right, and you were wrong.
You should have posted in the "Who Hates Israel" thread.

You have Russia on the brain. Stop it. Seriously. It's bad for you.






Russia has been threating nukes forever. Iran has none. Russia keeps suggesting if Europe does this, or America does that, including helping Ukraine, it could ignite a global nuclear war. It’s to frighten everyone.

No, Gabbard is pushing Putins' propaganda for him. She is a Russian sympathizer. It was all over the news when she was suggested to become the head of intelligence.

I love that you are having a hissy fit with all the I’m right, you are wrong shit. Although, you have defending Russia on the brain. Stop it. Seriously. It's bad for you.

And I guess I was right. Israel is bombing Iran as I type this. This is why we were sending out alarms to our embassies. Not because Iran was going to start firing nukes and start WW3.

T


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 9:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


You'd rather twist your brain into a pretzel than admit you're wrong, even to yourself.

Got it.

Oh, BTW - Russia is going to win in Ukraine.


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 9:22 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You'd rather twist your brain into a pretzel than admit you're wrong, even to yourself.

Got it.






You say what you think and I say what I think. Trust me, I'm very confident anyone who reads our posts will see who's the con and propagandist comrade.

T


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Thursday, June 12, 2025 9:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Tell your brain worms to shut the fuck up Ted.

You're finished.

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