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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Sunday, August 31, 2025 7:22 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, August 31, 2025 9:46 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: A Dark Theory: Russian Strategy In Ukraine Sunday, Aug 31, 2025 - 04:35 AM Authored by Armchair Warlord, A dark theory for the evening... Let's talk about Russian strategy in Ukraine... Looking at developments lately, specifically: (1) the Ukrainian casualty leak showing an astronomical 1.7M KIA/MIA; and (2) the Ukrainian collapse north of Pokrovsk I thought should revisit a dark thought I had a while ago, namely that, "maybe the killing itself is the point of all of this."
Quote: I've said before that the Russians have fought an extraordinarily clean war in Ukraine, but it should be understood that there is a very legalistic shade on that assessment. They've killed very few civilians, and Ukrainian propagandists are perpetually beclowning themselves trying to pretend that the usual single-digit handful of injured civilians that accompany the latest attack using hundreds of standoff weapons fired into city centers (producing secondary explosions visible from outer space as military targets hidden among civilian infrastructure are destroyed with surgical precision) somehow constitute gEnOCiDe rather than some of the most well-controlled warfighting in the history of the businesse. There is another and far darker side to Russia's "clean" war, however. Let us consider the fate of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - legal combatants all, whom the Russians can and do target and kill without limit. I mentioned the casualty leak earlier, but I feel this needs to have a line drawn under it - one point seven million personnel killed or missing in action in the AFU, over the course of the war. 1.7 MILLION. Seven or eight percent of Ukraine's prewar population, probably something like a quarter of the entire national cohort of military-aged males, dead or missing. Casualties on the scale of a genocide, sufficient to permanently cripple any postwar Ukrainian nation. Casualties multiple times that which I assessed two years ago as sufficient to shatter the AFU based on the experience of Nazi Germany. This brings me to the Ukrainian collapse north of Pokrovsk two weeks ago, in which a run-of-the-mill Russian attack walked through twenty kilometers of Ukrainian defensive belts and into open country. The Ukrainian propagandists coped by whining about how the single most important front sector for the AFU had somehow "run out of infantry." But did the Russians throw in a mobile reserve to collapse the front and chase the AFU back to the Dniper, despite doubtless knowing full well what was going on? No, they did not - they consolidated in the breach and awaited the inevitable, panicked Ukrainian counterattack, in which they would have the opportunity to destroy Ukraine's remaining elite troops. Which brings me to my conclusion. The Russians have had countless opportunities to make large advances in this war, especially recently - the Ukrainian front line is an absolute shambles and their "drone wall" tactic will falter against any serious attack. So ineffectual is the AFU that very few Russian moves at the front even face serious opposition these days, with most geolocations of Russian advances showing them already established in place and dealing with harassment by kill drones after having seized positions bloodlessly. The Russians have in fact consistently foregone breaking the front and taking swathes of ground in favor of killing the largest possible number of Ukrainian soldiers on the existing front line under the existing attritional combat dynamic. This "tactical directive" held true even during the Battle of Sudzha-Korenevo, fought in prewar Russia. Rather than counterattacking aggressively to evict the AFU, the Russians saw the opportunity to kill gigantic numbers of Ukrainians in a trap the enemy wouldn't be able to extract themselves from for ideological reasons, and they took it. That battle ended up being nine months of hideously lopsided butchery that broke the back of the AFU. All of this makes observing the war more than a little maddening, but it's a consistent pattern of behavior that begs for explanation. So here's my theory. The Russian government has consistently sought to end the war via peace treaty with the existing Ukrainian government, not via regime change, outright conquest, or even killing enough of that government to find a more flexible interlocutor among the Maidanites. Putin apparently wants a treaty with Zelensky. The Russians have also consistently made demands of the Ukrainian government - and its NATO sponsors - that are absolute political nonstarters for the Maidan-era regime and which that regime, by its very nature, simply cannot accept. Russian language rights, Orthodox religious rights, demilitarization, large territorial concessions which would see the AFU surrender vast urban areas without a shot fired. And yet the Russians insist, and they're going to continue killing Ukrainian soldiers at ever-more lopsided ratios until they get their way. Which leads me to the brutal conclusion: Putin doesn't want to see Ukraine conquered. He's never publicly expressed any desire for that. The consistent Russian policy is instead to see Ukraine - a "free" and "independent" Ukraine, having come to this impasse of its own sovereign will - utterly humiliated. Putin wants to make Zelensky put on a suit, come groveling to the Kremlin, and sign a treaty that will see the Maidanite government surrender its arms, disgorge huge amounts of territory, and reverse every single anti-Russian policy position it ever had. Ukrainian nationalism will be discredited overnight by the hands of those very nationalists, and the economically irrelevant, demographically shattered rump state will be sucked back into Russia's political orbit in a matter of days. So of course the Russians are only advancing in the most leisurely way possible. Their goal is to place the Ukrainian government into a militarily untenable situation so as to force a flamboyantly humiliating peace treaty upon them that includes large territorial concessions beyond the line of control - the ultimate Ukrainian taboo - so as to discredit Ukrainian nationalism by the hands of the very ultranationalists who took their nation to war in the first place.
Sunday, August 31, 2025 9:54 AM
SECOND
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Sunday, August 31, 2025 2:12 PM
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Monday, September 1, 2025 10:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Fuck Ukraine. Nobody cares. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Monday, September 1, 2025 12:06 PM
THG
Thursday, September 28, 2017 5:39 PM _ I posted, "I am an independent."
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: German soldiers fought all the way back to Berlin, and didn't surrender until Berlin itself was invaded. Let's hope, for Ukraine's sake, Russia doesn't have to go that far. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
Monday, September 1, 2025 1:22 PM
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Tuesday, September 2, 2025 8:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face. Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good. T
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face. Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good. T
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.
Tuesday, September 2, 2025 8:31 AM
Quote: This is why I call signym, comrade signym. She is promoting anti-Ukraine pro-Russian success
Wednesday, September 3, 2025 5:46 AM
Wednesday, September 3, 2025 10:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK February 24, 2022 2:33 PM http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887 : Hey. There he is. Ted's been crying since you've been gone. How's the first terrible year of Biden*'s horrible presidency treating you? P.S. Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea. Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit. Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine. One of these things is not like the other. -------------------------------------------------- Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: Putin suggested even eternal life could be achievable as a result of innovations in biotechnology, according to a translation of remarks caught on a hot mic.
Thursday, September 4, 2025 6:22 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2025 10:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: This is why I call signym, comrade signym. She is promoting anti-Ukraine pro-Russian success Son, I am merely recognizing reality. You should try it sometime.
Thursday, September 4, 2025 10:19 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2025 11:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: You don't know shit, Ted. Shut the fuck up.
Thursday, September 4, 2025 1:55 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2025 3:22 PM
Quote: THGR: This is why I call signym, comrade signym. She is promoting anti-Ukraine pro-Russian success SIGNY: Son, I am merely recognizing reality. You should try it sometime. THGR: No you're not. Russia is out of food and fuel. Good luck finding a potato in Russia comrade. Good luck filling up your car with gas. Russia is without gas and potatoes. How funny, sorry weird is that?
Thursday, September 4, 2025 4:27 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Here's your realism: 1. Fuck Ukraine. 2. Nobody cares. That's been the truth since the genesis of this thread.Here's your realism: 1. Your Precious NAZI's lost WW1
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Here's your realism: 1. Fuck Ukraine. 2. Nobody cares. That's been the truth since the genesis of this thread.
Quote: 2. Your precious NAZI's lost WW11
Quote: 3. Your precious NAZI's will always lose.
Quote: That's been the truth since the genesis of this thread. T
Thursday, September 4, 2025 7:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: NAZIs always lose? Hate to break the news to you, but NAZIs were winning on ALL 5 fronts of the European Theater of Combat, AT THE SAME TIME - until America entered the fray of World War II. That was why Hitler was so pissed at Japan for awakening the Sleeping Dragon of America on 7 December 1941.
Thursday, September 4, 2025 8:06 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2025 8:07 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2025 8:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: THGR: This is why I call signym, comrade signym. She is promoting anti-Ukraine pro-Russian success SIGNY: Son, I am merely recognizing reality. You should try it sometime. THGR: No you're not. Russia is out of food and fuel. Good luck finding a potato in Russia comrade. Good luck filling up your car with gas. Russia is without gas and potatoes. How funny, sorry weird is that? Son, IDK where you get your propaganda from, but you really need better sources. I listen to people ... Americans, Brits ... who visit Russia, some of them traveling from end to end, and there's no such thing. Yes, there was a severe drought in southern Russia, but that doesn't affect grain supplies in Russia, just exports. AFA gasoline shortages... people were returning home from summer vacation since school starts in Sept (says Slavikman) leading to huge traffic jams on the main highways and high demand for gasoline, but that's about it. US ORDERS PREPARATIONS FOR WORLD WAR, FUEL SHORTAGES REACH MOSCOW! The only one who's stupid enough to start WWIII is us. We make enemies out of everyone.
Thursday, September 4, 2025 8:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Shut the fuck up, Second. The only two people in the RWED who behave like Nazis in 2025 are you and Ted. Read a book and/or buy a mirror. Your opinions all belong in the trash, and that's exactly where America and Americans are putting them now. Your reign of terror is over.
Thursday, September 4, 2025 8:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Shut the fuck up, Second. The only two people in the RWED who behave like Nazis in 2025 are you and Ted. Read a book and/or buy a mirror. Your opinions all belong in the trash, and that's exactly where America and Americans are putting them now. Your reign of terror is over.
Thursday, September 4, 2025 8:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Shut the fuck up, Second. The only two people in the RWED who behave like Nazis in 2025 are you and Ted. Read a book and/or buy a mirror. Your opinions all belong in the trash, and that's exactly where America and Americans are putting them now. Your reign of terror is over. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Thursday, September 4, 2025 8:56 PM
Friday, September 5, 2025 7:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Heard it already. *yawn* Go cry to people on BlueSky about it. That's the last place people like you are being taken seriously. The last bastion of your crumbling echo chamber. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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Quote: filled with dozens of foreign parts, including chips and other electronic components made in the United States... The Iskander 9M727 missile that struck the building did not explode, most likely because it was damaged by Ukrainian air defenses, Vladyslav Vlasiuk, Ukraine’s presidential commissioner for sanctions policy, said on Tuesday. Vlasiuk released photographs of the damaged missile... The list includes 35 parts manufactured by American companies, including Texas Instruments, Analog Devices, Altera and others, as well as components made by Japanese, British and Swiss companies.
Quote: Infineon Technologies, the German company that now owns American-based Cypress Semiconductor – one of the manufacturers listed – told CNN that it has taken “extensive measures” to ensure its items don’t end up in Russia. A spokesperson for the company said Infineon Technologies has stopped all direct and indirect shipments to Russia and that it has tools in place to ensure compliance among its customers. “(If) we get tangible evidence that companies with which we have a business relationship are doing trade with Russia, we terminate the delivery and demand clarification from the company in question,” the spokesperson said. However the company produces around 30 billion chips every year, which the spokesperson said makes it “difficult to control sales throughout the entire lifetime of a product.”
Quote: Vlasiuk said that even though this particular missile still included dozens of Western-made parts, it contained fewer such components compared to missiles analyzed earlier in the war.
Tuesday, September 9, 2025 5:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Russia launched its largest drone and missile attack ever against Ukraine, with over 800 drones striking targets in Ukraine. Warehouses, drone assembly sites, airfields etc were targeted. For the first time ever, a bridge across the Dnieper was struck and damaged by about a dozen drones. The Cabinet of Ministers Building was also struck, at night when no one wax there, sending a message to the Zelensky "regime".
Tuesday, September 9, 2025 5:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Russia launched its largest drone and missile attack ever against Ukraine, with over 800 drones striking targets in Ukraine. Warehouses, drone assembly sites, airfields etc were targeted. For the first time ever, a bridge across the Dnieper was struck and damaged by about a dozen drones. The Cabinet of Ministers Building was also struck, at night when no one wax there, sending a message to the Zelensky "regime". THGR Quote:Russia attacked with 810 drones and decoys, Ukraine's air force said, adding it shot down 747 drones and four missiles. Comrade, do you think that your posting for years about Russia's prowess and not how they target civilians while Ukraine doesn't, while Ukraine 99.9 percent of the times hits Ligget military targets, shows your Russian bias? Exposes you as a liar for Putin?
Quote:Russia attacked with 810 drones and decoys, Ukraine's air force said, adding it shot down 747 drones and four missiles.
Tuesday, September 9, 2025 8:50 PM
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Tuesday, September 9, 2025 9:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Russian lies and propaganda comrade. Your above post is lies and Russian propaganda.
Quote: Since the Russian Federation launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, HRMMU has documented the deaths of at least 13,883 civilians,
Quote: Since the start of the year, Russia has launched at least 37,000 air attacks on Ukraine, according to a tally by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Quote: Russia launched 11,466 missiles at Ukraine from September 2022–2024
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