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Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:47 AM

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EU will pay billions to explode Russians into bloody chunks

EU countries to sign agreement to buy shells for Ukraine

By Andrew Gray

BRUSSELS, March 17 (Reuters) - Several European Union countries will sign an agreement on Monday to team up to buy artillery rounds for Ukraine as part of an effort to speed up and increase the supply of shells that Kyiv says it urgently needs to fight Russia's invasion.

A senior EU official said many of the bloc's 27 countries were expected to sign the so-called project arrangement, which sets out the terms of reference for the plan, but the precise number was unclear as some were still examining the proposal.

The pact to jointly procure 155 mm artillery shells will be signed on the sidelines of a meeting of EU foreign and defence ministers in Brussels on Monday, officials said. First orders under the plan could be placed by the end of May.

"This arrangement has been set up very, very quickly," the senior EU official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told a news briefing on Friday. "All (EU) member states and Norway can participate."

Ukraine has identified the supply of 155 mm shells as a critical need as it engages in a fierce war of attrition with invading Russian forces, in which both sides are firing thousands of artillery rounds every day.

Ukrainian and Western leaders have warned in recent weeks that Kyiv is burning through the shells more quickly than its allies can produce them, leading to a renewed push to send supplies and find ways to ramp up production.

A big joint munitions-buying initiative would mark a significant step in EU integration, as defence procurement has largely been the preserve of the bloc's national governments.

The project to be initiated on Monday would be spearheaded by the EU's European Defence Agency.

EU officials say the move should result in larger single orders for arms firms, thereby encouraging them to invest in increasing capacity, and reduce competition between governments that are driving up prices by trying to place similar orders.

The initiative is part of a plan presented by EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell to earmark 1 billion euros ($1.07 billion) to reimburse EU countries for sending shells from their own stocks to Ukraine and a further 1 billion euros for joint procurement.

Diplomats said EU governments were still wrangling over key details on Friday, due to disagreements over how the plan should work and a lack of clarity on the current levels of ammunition in EU members' stockpiles, which is kept secret.

Ambassadors to the EU from member countries will meet on Sunday to try to finalise details of the overall plan so that it can be approved by foreign ministers on Monday, diplomats said.

EU officials say it will be months, at least, before any shells ordered as part of joint procurement reach Ukraine.

But they argue that knowing a major joint procurement effort is under way should encourage member countries to send more of their current stockpiles to Ukraine.

The money would come from the European Peace Facility, an EU-run fund that has financed 3.6 billion euros of military aid to Ukraine since Russia's invasion in February 2022.

Many Western governments' ammunition stockpiles have been badly depleted by supplying shells to Ukraine. EU joint procurement would also aim to replenish them.

($1 = 0.9376 euros)

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/eu-move-towards-joi
nt-buying-shells-ukraine-says-official-2023-03-17/

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Saturday, March 18, 2023 6:43 AM

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Why are Russians anxious to control Ukraine? Famine. Russia starved while Ukraine had abundant food. Why not take the food? This is illustrated by the story of "Nikolai Vavilov: the Tragic Hero of Science Who Set Out to End Humanity’s Suffering".

While the physicist Sergei Vavilov was presiding over Stalin’s Academy of Sciences and spearheading the Soviet atomic bomb project, his idealistic older brother was laboring at something of orthogonal impact on humanity — a way to end an elemental form of suffering that has haunted our species since its dawn.

The botanist, geneticist, and explorer Nikolai Vavilov was still a boy when he arrived at his dream of ending famine. He had heard his father’s stories of growing up in poverty and constant hunger due to crop failures. When Nikolai himself was four, the early arrival of winter decimated crops all over the country, sending millions into starvation. All the tsar could do was offer his subjects “famine bread” — loaves made of milled husks, bark, weeds, and moss, rationed out in the freezing cold. Vavilov’s father had spent his life rising from poverty and now had a comfortable life as a merchant, so the family was protected from the worst of the famine — but from his precarious island of comfort, the boy watched the ocean of suffering and sorrowed. Half a million peasants perished that winter as the aristocracy feasted on imported delicacies from Europe — grim structural inequality that became the ignition spark for the long-seething people’s revolution a quarter century later.

Much more at "Nikolai Vavilov: the Tragic Hero of Science Who Set Out to End Humanity’s Suffering" https://www.themarginalian.org/2023/03/08/nikolai-vavilov/

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Saturday, March 18, 2023 8:19 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

We'll never have to worry about SECOND posting truth, tho. If he hits on a real fact once in a while it's totally accidental.

Another example of SECOND posting lies.

We DEFINITELY don't have to worry about SECOND accidentally colliding with the truth!
Signym, Russian state TV hosts and guests have encouraged and rationalized violence against Ukraine. Some have even suggested using nuclear weapons against Western countries. Pro-Kremlin media pundits should be concerned about the possibility of facing war crime charges.

Julia Davis, a top news analyst who runs the Russian Media Monitor project, wrote an essay this week for the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) online journal about a growing unease among Russian propagandists. The essay title is ‘Morality Shouldn’t Get in the Way’ — Russia’s Genocidal State Media https://cepa.org/article/morality-shouldnt-get-in-the-way-russias-geno
cidal-state-media/

Davis wrote that while pro-Kremlin pundits reacted with joy when Putin launched his war more than a year ago, now "the euphoria has been replaced by a lingering sense of dread, with Putin's mouthpieces routinely fretting about the possibility of war crimes tribunals. The issue is playing on their minds."

An example of the extreme talk spouted by Russian-state controlled media was a discussion led in the fall by Anton Krasovsky, who also works for RT. During an October interview, Krasovsky spoke of drowning Ukrainian children while setting homes on fire before he turned to talk of rape, according to Davis.

Russian talking heads have not only justified violence against Ukraine, but they've also suggested using nuclear weapons against the United States and other Western nations over their support for Ukraine.

"The Kremlin's propagandists have plenty of reasons to be concerned ... The state-controlled media has played a central part in prompting, encouraging, rationalizing, and normalizing the Kremlin's massacre of its next-door neighbors," Davis wrote.

More at https://www.newsweek.com/putins-allies-fears-come-true-1788649

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Saturday, March 18, 2023 8:28 AM

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They only get away with writing these articles because people are stupid enough to buy them.

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Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
Originally posted by second:

Signym, Russian state western TV hosts and guests AND I have encouraged and rationalized violence against Ukraine. Russia, for years. Some have even suggested using nuclear weapons against Western countries. Russia as a first strike. Pro-Kremlin western media pundits should be concerned about the possibility of facing war crime charges.
Fixed it for you.



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Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:35 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Fixed it for you.
Signym, you got true and false mixed up. For a real-life example, there is Lysenko and Vavilov. The famous one was a pseudo-scientist who caused mass starvation. The other was a geneticist who starved to death in prison. Peculiar things tend to happen in Russia because they can’t tell who is a fake hero and who is a real hero.

Fake Hero: Trofim Lysenko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_Lysenko#Consequences_of_Lysenkois
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True Hero: Nikolai Vavilov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Vavilov

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Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:49 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If Putin said "The sky is blue and water is wet" and Tucker Carlson said "The sky is blue and water is wet" I'm sure SECOND would bray that Tucker is parroting Putin.

Occasionally different people say the same thing because they're talking real-world truth.

We'll never have to worry about SECOND posting truth, tho. If he hits on a real fact once in a while it's totally accidental.
Signym, you are a Russian troll working for Putin.
Another example of SECOND posting lies.

We DEFINITELY don't have to worry about SECOND accidentally colliding with the truth!





Signym is Russian. She lies constantly. Here is another Russian explaining where she gets it from. Too funny and so true.

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Saturday, March 18, 2023 6:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I remember the days when the human drones in America were Republicans and backed GWB.

Funny watching this come from equally stupid people on the other side 20 years later.



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Sunday, March 19, 2023 6:20 AM

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Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law on Saturday introducing lengthy prison terms for “discrediting” and spreading “fake” information about any force, including the notorious Wagner Group mercenary unit, fighting for Russia in Ukraine.

Spreading what the authorities deem to be “false information” about military volunteers will be punishable with up to five years in prison or a fine of up to 1.5 million rubles ($20,000).

“Army fakes” that are deemed to lead to “grave consequences” could land a violator a prison sentence of up to 15 years under the new legislation.

“Anyone who is risking their life today to guarantee the security of the country and its citizens is protected from lies and provocations,” State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/18/putin-signs-law-punishing-cr
iticism-of-mercenaries-with-jail-a80534

Any Russian who said that the Army was NOT really protecting Russia, but was actually only stealing Ukrainian land, could be jailed. Any Russian mentioning Russians committing War Crimes? That Russian goes to jail. Any Russian saying Putin should be in jail because of Putin's arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court will get thrown in jail, instead.

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Sunday, March 19, 2023 7:12 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
Signym, western TV hosts and guests AND I have encouraged and rationalized violence against Russia for years. Some have even suggested using nuclear weapons against Russia as a first strike. Western media pundits should be concerned about the possibility of facing war crime charges.
For once, SECOND told the truth.


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Monday, March 20, 2023 8:35 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Signym, western TV hosts and guests AND I have encouraged and rationalized violence against Russia for years. Some have even suggested using nuclear weapons against Russia as a first strike. Western media pundits should be concerned about the possibility of facing war crime charges.
For once, SECOND told the truth.
No, Signym. That was your rewrite, not my words. This is Signym's original, before Signym erased editing marks:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:

Signym, Russian state western TV hosts and guests AND I have encouraged and rationalized violence against Ukraine. Russia, for years. Some have even suggested using nuclear weapons against Western countries. Russia as a first strike. Pro-Kremlin western media pundits should be concerned about the possibility of facing war crime charges.
Fixed it for you.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11710
05#1171005

Paris embassy clarifies ambassador’s claim Poland could “enter conflict” in Ukraine

After Poland’s ambassador to France told a local broadcaster that his country could “enter the conflict” in Ukraine, the Polish embassy has sought to explain his remarks, arguing that they were taken out of context.

Speaking to LCI on Saturday, the ambassador, Jan Emeryk Rosciszewski, said “it is not NATO, Poland, France or Slovakia that is increasing tensions, it is Russia that has attacked Ukraine, it is Russia that invaded its territory, it is Russia that kills people, it is Russia that kidnaps Ukrainian children”.

“If Ukraine fails to defend its independence, we will have no choice but to enter the conflict,” he added. “Our fundamental values, which are the cornerstone of our civilisation, our culture will be in fundamental danger, so we don’t have a choice.”

His words triggered criticism from opposition politicians in Poland.

“The Polish ambassador to France saying we will enter a war with Russia if Ukraine fails is clearly exceeding his powers and should simply be removed from office. Hello [foreign ministry]!” tweeted Maciej Gdula, an MP from The Left (Lewica).

“The PiS [ruling party’s] diplomatic staff are a disaster. They put forward people with no experience in diplomacy as ambassadors, and they later say whatever comes to mind,” wrote Krzystof Bosak, one of the leaders of the far-right Confederation (Konfederacja) party.

Before being appointed as ambassador to France last year, Rosciszewski had worked in finance, including as chairman of the board of state-owned bank PKO and in France for insurance giant Axa.

In response to such criticism, the embassy in Paris released a statement denying that the ambassador had announced possible Polish involvement in the conflict and arguing that the diplomat’s words were taken “out of context”.

“During a half-hour conversation, Ambassador Rosciszewski argued for the need for allies to support Ukraine. He also spoke about the threat that Russia poses to Europe and European values,” wrote the embassy.

“A careful listening to the whole conversation makes it clear that there was no announcement of direct involvement by Poland in the conflict, but only a warning of the consequences that a defeat of Ukraine could have,” it added.

“Looking for sensational content that does not fit with Poland’s consistent efforts over the past year to help Ukraine win this conflict so that it would not spill over into Europe and Poland should be regarded as ill will,” it added.

Although the Polish foreign ministry did not directly address the ambassador’s statement in a separate communication, it retweeted the embassy’s message.

Rosciszewski’s remarks came as one French politician, National Rally (RN) MEP and former minister Thierry Mariani, accused Poland of “clearly trying to drag the European Union into an escalation” of the war in Ukraine.

His comments came in response to Poland’s president, Andrzej Duda, last week announcing that his country would become the first to transfer fighter jets to Ukraine.

“It seems to me that it is extremely dangerous for Poland to deliver military aircraft to Kyiv,” Mariani told Russian state news agency TASS. “Until now, the United States has not made such a decision. Warsaw is now going even further than Washington in supplying Ukraine with military equipment.”

Poland has long argued that helping Ukraine’s defend itself against Russian aggression is vital for the safety of Europe, and in particular of NATO’s eastern member states.

https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/03/20/paris-embassy-clarifies-ambassa
dors-claim-poland-could-enter-conflict-in-ukraine/

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Sen. Mark Kelly flew with Russian pilots in the Navy and with NASA, and he said the Russian fighter jet running into a US drone shows 'how incompetent they are'

"I'm not surprised by this. I mean, I flew with Russian pilots, fighter pilots who couldn't fly formation. And I watched this video, and it's pretty obvious what happened. He lost sight of it, and he crashed into it," Kelly told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" Sunday.

Kelly compared the fighter jet incident to the "incompetence that we see on the battle field every day in Ukraine."

"That's why the losses that the Russians are suffering right now are really high. At this point I mean, the best choice for Vladimir Putin would be to say: 'Hey, this isn't working,' and he's got to stop this illegal invasion," Kelly said.

On Tuesday, two Russian Su-27 fighter jets intercepted a US military MQ-9 Reaper drone that was flying over international waters above the Black Sea. The jets dumped fuel on the drone, and one jet eventually clipped the drone's propeller. The drone eventually crashed into the water.

Insider previously reported that while one think tank analysis suggested this was aggressive messaging by Russia, US officials have said the incident was most likely due to Russians not knowing how to fly.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-kelly-russian-jets-us-drone-incid
ent-shows-pilot-incompetence-2023-3

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Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev threatened the International Criminal Court with a hypersonic missile strike Monday after the court issued an arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin.

“The ICC judges got excited in vain,” Medvedev wrote on his Telegram channel. “Look, they say, we are brave, we did not crap ourselves to raise a hand against the largest nuclear power. Alas, gentlemen, everyone walks under God and rockets. It is quite possible to imagine the targeted use of a hypersonic missile from the North Sea from a Russian ship at the Hague courthouse.”

Medvedev claimed such a strike wouldn’t start a new conflict as “the court is just a miserable international organization, not the population of a NATO country. “They are afraid,” he continued. “And no one will be sorry. So, citizen judges, look carefully to the sky…”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dmitry-medvedev-threatens-icc-with-missi
le-strike-over-putin-arrest-warrant


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Monday, March 20, 2023 10:02 AM

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Quote:
Signym, western TV hosts and guests AND I have encouraged and rationalized violence against Russia for years. Some have even suggested using nuclear weapons against Russia as a first strike. Western media pundits should be concerned about the possibility of facing war crime charges.
For once, SECOND told the truth.


"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger




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Monday, March 20, 2023 10:09 AM

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Sure.

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Monday, March 20, 2023 12:46 PM

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OMG, seriously THUGR???

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Monday, March 20, 2023 12:53 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Germany Will Execute International Court's Arrest Warrant If Putin Enters Territory
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/germany-will-execute-icc-arrest
-warrant-if-putin-enters-territory

The ICC is not universally-recognized. Russia is not a member. Neither, BTW, is the USA.

The ICC is obviously biased. Any indictments for USA sanctions killing 500,000 Iraqi children?
No?
Any indictments on the terror-bombing of Germany's most important civilian energy infrastructure?
No?

This action is just political theater. It carries no moral weight. But what it DOES do, like the destruction of Nordstream, makes any NEGOTIATED settlement of Ukraine impossible, bc which EU nation would talk with a war criminal? It especially drives yet another wedge between Germany and Russia. So somebody in the EU really wants the war to continue, and Scholz is putting up with it.

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Monday, March 20, 2023 4:58 PM

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This action is just political theater.
When Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Milosevic.

When Muammar Gaddafi of Libya was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Gaddafi.

When Bashar al-Assad of Syria was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Al-Assad.

When Putin was charged with crimes, who did Signym side with?

What do these people have in common? Russia.

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Monday, March 20, 2023 5:06 PM

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Milosevic was found not guilty but died in prison nonetheless.

SECOND likes to demonize people with crazy accusations and lies.

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Milosevic was found not guilty but died in prison nonetheless.

SECOND likes to demonize people with crazy accusations and lies.
Russia Today said Milosevic was ruled as not guilty. That is false. The court did not rule. It stopped the trial with no decision. In the fancy pants wording preferred by lawyers: Due to Miloševic's death during the trial, the court returned no verdict on the charges. I am not a lawyer, so I will explain: You are a lying sack of shit, Signym.

https://balkaninsight.com/2016/08/16/milosevic-s-old-allies-celebrate-
his-innocence-08-16-2016/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Slobodan_Milo%C5%A1evi%C4%87#Mi
lo%C5%A1evi%C4%87's_death

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Monday, March 20, 2023 6:43 PM

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Fuck Ukraine.


You idiots have been cheerleading NATO's proxy war for a year now and it's lead to the death of 100,000 Ukrainian boys and men. That comes out to about $1,250,000 US taxpayer dollars per Ukrainian soldier killed in your war now.

I hope you're proud of yourselves, cheering it all on from behind the safety of your computer screen while waving your fucking Ukrainian flags and driving around with your Ukrainian bumper stickers.

Cunts. The entire lot of you.

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Fuck Ukraine.


You idiots have been cheerleading NATO's proxy war for a year now and it's lead to the death of 100,000 Ukrainian boys and men. That comes out to about $1,250,000 US taxpayer dollars per Ukrainian soldier killed in your war now.

I hope you're proud of yourselves, cheering it all on from behind the safety of your computer screen while waving your fucking Ukrainian flags and driving around with your Ukrainian bumper stickers.

Cunts. The entire lot of you.
The last time Russia was in Ukraine, 4,000,000 Ukrainians were killed. Ukrainians will not give Russia another time in Ukraine because that will mean at least another 4,000,000 Ukrainians will die. None of this is too complicated for you to understand, 6ixStringJack.

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Monday, March 20, 2023 7:52 PM

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Eleven years after his death, a second trial chamber at the UN War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague has concluded that Slobodan Milosevic was not responsible for war crimes committed in Bosnia and Herzegovina...

Buried in a footnote deep in the fourth volume of the judgment against Bosnian-Serb General Ratko Mladic the judges unanimously conclude that “The evidence received by the trial chamber did not show that Slobodan Milosevic, Jovica Stanisic, Franko Simatovic, Zeljko Raznatovic, or Vojislav Seselj participated in the realization of the common criminal objective” to establish an ethnically-homogenous Bosnian-Serb entity through the commission of crimes alleged in the indictment.[1]

This is an important admission because practically the entire Western press corps and virtually every political leader in every Western country has spent the last 25 years telling us that Slobodan Milosevic was a genocidal monster cut from the same cloth as Adolf Hitler. We were told that he was the “Butcher of the Balkans,” but there was never any evidence to support those accusations. We were lied to in order to justify economic sanctions and NATO military aggression against the people of Serbia – just like they lied to us to justify the Iraq war.

https://strategic-culture.org/news/2017/12/07/hague-tribunal-exonerate
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Monday, March 20, 2023 7:58 PM

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Fuck Ukraine.


You idiots have been cheerleading NATO's proxy war for a year now and it's lead to the death of 100,000 Ukrainian boys and men. That comes out to about $1,250,000 US taxpayer dollars per Ukrainian soldier killed in your war now.

I hope you're proud of yourselves, cheering it all on from behind the safety of your computer screen while waving your fucking Ukrainian flags and driving around with your Ukrainian bumper stickers.

Cunts. The entire lot of you.
The last time Russia was in Ukraine, 4,000,000 Ukrainians were killed. Ukrainians will not give Russia another time in Ukraine because that will mean at least another 4,000,000 Ukrainians will die. None of this is too complicated for you to understand, 6ixStringJack.

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Russia has "been in Ukraine" or conversely "Ukraine has been in Russia" or perhaps "Russia and Ukraine were indistinguishable" for large parts of their common history. Don't forget, Kiev was the center of the Russian kingdom (Kievan Rus) and Odessa was founded by the Russian Empress Catherine the Great. Russia developed industry in Ukraine, and the electrical grids and apartment buildings that are so sturdily built were built by Russia.

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Russia has "been in Ukraine" or conversely "Ukraine has been in Russia" or perhaps "Russia and Ukraine were indistinguishable" for large parts of their common history. Don't forget, Kiev was the center of the Russian kingdom (Kievan Rus) and Odessa was founded by the Russian Empress Catherine the Great. Russia developed industry in Ukraine, and the electrical grids and apartment buildings that are so sturdily built were built by Russia.
Ukrainians are NOT convinced by your bullshit, Signym. Russians will kill Ukrainians in the future as Russians have killed Ukrainians in the past. And if the past is no guide, then Russians in the present day are threatening to nuke Ukraine rather than lose a war in Ukraine. There is nothing complex and hard to understand, Signym, about Russians murdering people and taking their property.

6,872,000 Victims: Post-Stalin Period, 1954-1987

With Stalin’s death, the terror was gradually alleviated, though not really ended until the 1980s under Gorbachev. Beria, Stalin’s chief enforcer and head of the KGB, was executed; many other lesser lights were purged.1

The “crimes” of the Stalin years, particularly the Great Terror (in which, be it remembered, top party members were executed) were secretly revealed by Khrushchev. The camp population was gradually reduced and the camp regime improved in the post-Stalin 1950s. However, the death camps at Kolyma still continued into the early 1960s, when they were also subject to reform, and perhaps largely closed by the middle 1960s.2

15,613,000 Victims: Postwar and Stalin’s Twilight Period, 1945-1953

In Soviet-occupied Eastern Europe and Asia, the end of World War II may have been noted by booming cannons and celebrating soldiers, but little else. Terror, executions, and the deadly deportations continued unabated. Among those the Soviets deported to Siberia or other inhospitable regions from the Soviet-occupied countries of Europe were 50,000 East Germans, 120,000 Hungarians, 500,000 to 600,000 Balts (from 1945 to 1952), 107,000 German-Rumanians, 400,000 Japanese from Sakhalin, over 850,000 Rumanian-Bessarabians and North Bukovians (from 1944 to 1949), over 1,000,000 Rumanians from Moldavia (from 1950 to 1952), over 150,000 Bulgarian peasant families, almost 2,000,000 Czechs and Slovaks, and 4,500,000 Poles in 1945 and after. As before and during the war, “enemies of the people” were swept from the conquered territories into the Soviet labor camps to replace the millions who had died.

From the book Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
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This action is just political theater.
When Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Milosevic.

When Muammar Gaddafi of Libya was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Gaddafi.

When Bashar al-Assad of Syria was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Al-Assad.

When Putin was charged with crimes, who did Signym side with?

What do these people have in common? Russia.

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Tyrants, dictators, thug’s murderers and criminals, one and all.

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https://strategic-culture.org/news/2017/12/07/hague-tribunal-exonerate
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If only Slobodan Milosevic had hired a lawyer rather than defend himself, he won't have talked himself to death. But Milosevic could not shut up. Too bad for him being "innocent until proven guilty" but the judges didn't trust Milosevic. If he had been allowed to come and go as he pleased, the judges did not believe he would have shown up for his court dates.

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Monday, March 20, 2023 9:29 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

This action is just political theater.
When Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Milosevic.

When Muammar Gaddafi of Libya was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Gaddafi.

When Bashar al-Assad of Syria was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Al-Assad.

When Putin was charged with crimes, who did Signym side with?

What do these people have in common? Russia.

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Tyrants, dictators, thug’s murderers and criminals, one and all.

T
Oh fuck you, THUGR. Your ignorance is boundless. And worse, you refuse to learn bc you can never admit that you're wrong.

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Russia has "been in Ukraine" or conversely "Ukraine has been in Russia" or perhaps "Russia and Ukraine were indistinguishable" for large parts of their common history. Don't forget, Kiev was the center of the Russian kingdom (Kievan Rus) and Odessa was founded by the Russian Empress Catherine the Great. Russia developed industry in Ukraine, and the electrical grids and apartment buildings that are so sturdily built were built by Russia.

SECOND: Ukrainians are NOT convinced by your bullshit, Signym.
Mind-reading?
Quote:
Russians will kill Ukrainians in the future
Prognostication?

All the hallmarks of a charlatan.

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Mind-reading?
Quote:
Russians will kill Ukrainians in the future
Prognostication?

All the hallmarks of a charlatan.
No mind-reading is necessary because the Ukrainians have spoken frequently about what is on their minds. No need to prognosticate about Russians, either, because the Russians are murdering Ukrainians, and the Ukrainians know it.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2023 12:02 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Mind-reading?
Quote:
Russians will kill Ukrainians in the future
Prognostication?

All the hallmarks of a charlatan.
No mind-reading is necessary because the Ukrainians have spoken frequently about what is on their minds. No need to prognosticate about Russians, either, because the Russians are murdering Ukrainians, and the Ukrainians know it.

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The ones that are a part of your propaganda machine, perhaps.

There are a shit-ton of Ukrainians that identify as Russian.

You wouldn't know that because your dipshit brain only allows news from your echo chamber and Mika Brazenski isn't going to tell you that part when she's making her millions controlling what you think.

Get fucked, you low-info waste of carbon.

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The ones that are a part of your propaganda machine, perhaps.

There are a shit-ton of Ukrainians that identify as Russian.

You wouldn't know that because your dipshit brain only allows news from your echo chamber and Mika Brazenski isn't going to tell you that part when she's making her millions controlling what you think.

Get fucked, you low-info waste of carbon.
6ix, your "thinking" is silly. Could you be deranged or are you just being a dunderhead?

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Zelensky Has an Answer for DeSantis

Story by Anne Applebaum

Imagine that someone—perhaps a man from Florida, or maybe even a governor of Florida—criticized American support for Ukraine. Imagine that this person dismissed the war between Russia and Ukraine as a purely local matter, of no broader significance. Imagine that this person even told a far-right television personality that “while the U.S. has many vital national interests ... becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them.” How would a Ukrainian respond? More to the point, how would the leader of Ukraine respond?

As it happens, an opportunity to ask that hypothetical question recently availed itself. The chair of the board of directors of The Atlantic, Laurene Powell Jobs; The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg; and I interviewed President Volodymyr Zelensky several days ago in the presidential palace in Kyiv. In the course of an hour-long conversation, Goldberg asked Zelensky what he would say to someone, perhaps a governor of Florida, who wonders why Americans should help Ukraine.

Zelensky, answering in English, told us that he would respond pragmatically. He didn’t want to appeal to the hearts of Americans, in other words, but to their heads. Were Americans to cut off Ukraine from ammunition and weapons, after all, there would be clear consequences in the real world, first for Ukraine’s neighbors but then for others:

"If we will not have enough weapons, that means we will be weak. If we will be weak, they will occupy us. If they occupy us, they will be on the borders of Moldova and they will occupy Moldova. When they have occupied Moldova, they will [travel through] Belarus and they will occupy Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia. That’s three Baltic countries which are members of NATO. They will occupy them. Of course, [the Balts] are brave people, and they will fight. But they are small. And they don’t have nuclear weapons. So they will be attacked by Russians because that is the policy of Russia, to take back all the countries which have been previously part of the Soviet Union."

And after that, if there were still no further response? Then, he explained, the struggle would continue:

"When they will occupy NATO countries, and also be on the borders of Poland and maybe fight with Poland, the question is: Will you send all your soldiers with weapons, all your pilots, all your ships? Will you send tanks and armored vehicles with your young people? Will you do it? Because if you will not do it, you will have no NATO."

At that point, he said, Americans will face a different choice: not politicians deciding whether “to give weapons or not to give weapons” to Ukrainians, but instead, “fathers and mothers” deciding whether to send their children to fight to keep a large part of the planet, filled with America’s allies and most important trading partners, from Russian occupation.

But there would be other consequences too. One of the most horrifying weapons that Russia has used against Ukraine is the Iranian-manufactured Shahed drone, which has no purpose other than to kill civilians. After these drones are used to subdue Ukraine, Zelensky asked, how long would it be before they are used against Israel? If Russia can attack a smaller neighbor with impunity, regimes such as Iran’s are sure to take note. So then the question arises again: “When they will try to occupy Israel, will the United States help Israel? That is the question. Very pragmatic.”

Finally, Zelensky posed a third question. During the war, Ukraine has been attacked by rockets, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles—“not hundreds, but thousands”:

"So what will you do when Russia will use rockets to attack your allies, to [attack] civilian people? And what will you do when Russia, after that, if they do not see [opposition] from big countries like the United States? What will you do if they will use rockets on your territory?"

And this was his answer: Help us fight them here, help us defeat them here, and you won’t have to fight them anywhere else. Help us preserve some kind of open, normal society, using our soldiers and not your soldiers. That will help you preserve your open, normal society, and that of others too. Help Ukraine fight Russia now so that no one else has to fight Russia later, and so that harder and more painful choices don’t have to be made down the line.

“It’s about nature. It’s about life,” he said. “That’s it.”

Our full report from Ukraine will appear in a forthcoming issue of The Atlantic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zelensky-has-an-answer-for-desant
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A series of blasts targeting Russian weapons took place in Russian-occupied Crimea on Monday night, according to videos posted on social media.

The footage showed explosions in Dzhankoy, a town in the northern part of Crimea and a strategically important railway connection used by the Russian army. In some clips, a red cloud was visible in the night sky after the blasts. Others featured the sound of machine guns firing.

Ukrainian Military Intelligence reported that an explosion had destroyed a cargo of Russian Kalibr cruise missiles — which Moscow has used to hammer Ukrainian critical infrastructure. Ukraine has not officially taken responsibility for the attack.

“The mysterious series of blasts continues the process of Russia’s demilitarization and prepares the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea for de-occupation,” Ukrainian Military Intelligence said in a statement.

However, Russian media reported that Russian-backed authorities in Crimea blamed a “night attack by Ukrainian drones,” saying they had hit a technical school and residential areas.

Although Russian authorities reported all drones were shot down, Russian independent media channel Astra reported serious damage after the drone attack was recorded in at least five locations.

“Four of them belong to the railway station. Locomotive depot, station security building, inventory and fuel depots,” Astra reported. As a result of the attack, there were interruptions in the locomotive depot power supply. One man was wounded, Astra also reported.

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-drone-attack-crimea-war-russia
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Why Putin is casting the Ukraine war as a fight for Russia’s survival
by Brad Dress - 03/21/23 1:48 PM ET

Russian President Vladimir Putin has increasingly cast the Ukraine war as an epic fight for Russia’s survival, accusing the West of “using Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia and as a testing range.”

In his telling, the West started the war, and Russia has everything to lose — even when all available evidence points to Putin launching an unprovoked invasion seeking to topple Ukraine’s government.

As Russia’s losses mount, Putin is employing a psychological tool to get his people behind a conflict with no end in sight, according to several analysts.

“It’s nice to think of Russia as confronting the hegemon as opposed to having invaded a smaller neighbor,” said Kadri Liik, a senior fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations.

She said Putin has “intertwined his own political and potential physical fate with the war,” and is trying to frame the violent conflict in ways to bolster his support.

In multiple speeches, the Russian leader has leaned into a verbal strategy of anti-loss. Given the Kremlin’s broad control of the media, the Russian people are “increasingly likely to interpret this as a standoff between Russia and the West, which makes it more palatable psychologically,” Liik added.

Putin emphasized a threat from the U.S. and the western security alliance NATO before his troops rolled into Ukraine in February 2022. The Russian president dug deeper into the do-or-die message last fall as he announced a partial mobilization that has sent hundreds of thousands of military reservists to the front lines.

When he addressed the Federal Assembly last month after a year of war, Putin more directly pitting the Russian people against NATO.

He lamented Russia was only seeking peace and safety guarantees before the war and those attempts were rejected by the western elites. He raged that the West had “enslaved” Ukraine, which he considers to be historically part of Russia, and cried that the U.S. was clamoring for Moscow’s defeat, and seeking to plunder Russian resources.

“Over the long centuries of colonialism, diktat and hegemony, they got used to being allowed everything, got used to spitting on the whole world,” Putin said. “The threat was growing by the day.

“Let me reiterate that they were the ones who started this war, while we used force and are using it to stop the war,” he added. “We are defending human lives and our common home, while the West seeks unlimited power.”

It remains difficult to gauge broader public opinion on the war after Russia passed a tough law last year restricting anyone from voicing “discreditation” of the armed forces, and with authorities sniffing out signs of protest. But Putin’s framing seems effective.

Sergey Radchenko, a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, said the February speech did “fairly well” for the Russian audience in presenting the war in Ukraine as a defensive mission.

“Stories about the West being decadent — this stuff sells in Russia,” he said. “After months and months of fighting in Ukraine, people were having trouble [seeing] how it all started.”

Charles Kupchan, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said the focus on “American hegemony” has sway.

“Russia has to stand its ground against this wayward country that is trying to dominate the world,” Kupchan said on Putin’s framing. “That’s a narrative that has gotten some traction in pitching broader discomfort with western colonialism.”

“There are kernels of factually accurate statements,” he continued, “but what he does is he uses those as launch pads for twisted, nationalistic narratives that bear no resemblance to reality.”

James Nixey, the director of the Russia and Eurasia program at Chatham House, said the February speech was a “surreal experience.”

“Like living in an alternate reality,” he said. “It is an absolute concocted fantasy in order to ensure that Russia’s rightness is understood by all and there’s no going wobbly on the part of anybody.”

Several of Putin’s speeches in the past year have also centered on cultural messages.

The depiction of a neo-Nazi government holding Ukraine hostage has been a focal point in his public remarks. Last month, he compared the West to the 20th Century empire of Austria-Hungary and said the western allies “paved the way” for Nazi Germany.

Putin has also pushed the false message of rampant pedophilia in western nations — mostly in reference to LGBTQ groups — casting it as another incoming attack on Russian culture should the West have its way.

“Look what they are doing to their own people,” Putin said in his February speech. “It is all about the destruction of the family, of cultural and national identity, perversion and abuse of children, including pedophilia, all of which are declared normal in their life.”

Some of the messaging caters to those outside of Russia, who may nod their heads to the cultural issues, analysts said. That could boost his support with an international audience that is not aligned with him in Ukraine but agrees with his cultural criticism of liberals and western power.

More so, Putin, who is now wanted by the International Criminal Court for supporting the kidnapping of Ukrainian children, is trying to maintain enough internal Russian support to ensure his own survival.

Russian elites are becoming more disenfranchised with the war after setbacks in Ukraine, according to Liik from the European Council on Foreign Relations, although they recognize the difficulties of pulling back this late in the conflict.

Henk Goemans, the director of the Peter D. Watson Center for Conflict and Cooperation at the University of Rochester, said Putin has consolidated a lot of power but could end up threatened by rival power factions.

“It’s a dangerous game to play,” Goemans said. “I am not yet convinced [Putin’s power] is enough that he is really secure after a significant setback in Ukraine.”

Despite his rhetoric, there are signs Putin is holding back from complete isolation with the West.

In the speech last month, he announced the suspension of the New START Treaty, a nuclear pact between the U.S. and Russia that limited the number of weapons of mass destruction for both nations while also allowing for inspections of key facilities.

Notably, Putin chose to suspend the treaty — not withdraw from it entirely.

Michael O’Hanlon, the director of research in foreign policy at the Brookings Institution, said there was a “certain amount of prudence and professionalism” in Putin suspending the treaty rather than annulling it.

“Hopefully that means Putin is already seeing the way in which we may get back to business,” he said, adding the Russian leader is “starting to realize he’s not going to [achieve his original goals] and may have to settle for less.”

But it’s unclear what Putin would accept to end his war. The beginning of the invasion last year made clear he was hoping to seize Kyiv within a matter of weeks and potentially set up a puppet government.

After Russian forces were pushed out of the western part of Ukraine, troops remain fighting deadly battles of attrition in the eastern region of the country.

Last fall, Putin illegally annexed four regions in the south and east: Kherson, Zaporizhzhya, Donetsk and Luhansk, all of which he is now unlikely to give up and which Ukraine said it will continue to fight for.

With a compromise hard to fathom, Putin’s “loss framing” helps ensure support even if his troops continue to flounder in Ukraine.

Unless Russia expands its fight into NATO countries, the threat of an attack from the West is absurd, according to the analysts The Hill spoke to for this story. But Goemans, from the University of Rochester, said a loss in Ukraine would be a “real challenge to Russian identity.”

“Social identity is very much mixed up with Ukraine,” he said.”Those things will be incredibly hard to accept for Russians. That they are two different states and two different nations.”

“Defeat in the Ukraine would be a fundamental challenge to fundamental tenets of Russian identity.”

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3909195-why-putin-is-casting-the-uk
raine-war-as-a-fight-for-russias-survival/

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

This action is just political theater.
When Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Milosevic.

When Muammar Gaddafi of Libya was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Gaddafi.

When Bashar al-Assad of Syria was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Al-Assad.

When Putin was charged with crimes, who did Signym side with?

What do these people have in common? Russia.

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Tyrants, dictators, thug’s murderers and criminals, one and all.

T
Oh fuck you, THUGR. Your ignorance is boundless. And worse, you refuse to learn bc you can never admit that you're wrong.




Riddle me this comrade signym. Why do the women of Iran have a bigger set of balls than the Russians when it comes to standing up to tyrants and dictators?

Can_you_see_me_laughing?

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Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:09 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This action is just political theater.

SECOND: When Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Milosevic.
When Muammar Gaddafi of Libya was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Gaddafi.
When Bashar al-Assad of Syria was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Al-Assad.
When Putin was charged with crimes, who did Signym side with?
What do these people have in common? Russia.

THUGR: Tyrants, dictators, thug’s murderers and criminals, one and all.

SIGNY: Oh fuck you, THUGR. Your ignorance is boundless. And worse, you refuse to learn bc you can never admit that you're wrong.

THUGR: Riddle me this comrade signym. Why do the women of Iran have a bigger set of balls than the Russians when it comes to standing up to tyrants and dictators?
Can_you_see_me_laughing?


Bc Russia is not a tyranny and Putin is not a dictator, ignorant troll.



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Why Putin is casting the Ukraine war as a fight for Russia’s survival Why western press is focusing on the "meaning" of the battle in Ukraine.
by Brad Dress - 03/21/23 1:48 PM ET

Because Russia is winning.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Bc Russia is not a tyranny and Putin is not a dictator, ignorant troll.
Says the troll working for Putin. What has Putin to say? He says one falsehood after another: When he addressed the Federal Assembly last month after a year of war, Putin more directly pitting the Russian people against NATO.

He lamented Russia was only seeking peace and safety guarantees before the war and those attempts were rejected by the western elites. He raged that the West had “enslaved” Ukraine, which he considers to be historically part of Russia, and cried that the U.S. was clamoring for Moscow’s defeat, and seeking to plunder Russian resources.

“Over the long centuries of colonialism, diktat and hegemony, they got used to being allowed everything, got used to spitting on the whole world,” Putin said. “The threat was growing by the day.

“Let me reiterate that they were the ones who started this war, while we used force and are using it to stop the war,” he added. “We are defending human lives and our common home, while the West seeks unlimited power.”

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3909195-why-putin-is-casting-the-uk
raine-war-as-a-fight-for-russias-survival/

Signym, if you would stop calling the truth a lie and lies the truth, that would be nice. If you won't, you are pathetic, the same as Putin. Were he a better leader and more persuasive orator, he'd point to all the buildings he destroyed in Ukraine, all the Ukrainians he killed, and then declare his mission is accomplished and the Russian Army will go home and celebrate after having taught NATO a lesson to never again threaten Russia. But he probably can't convince enough Russians to make that flip-flop work in his favor.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 21, 2023 10:10 PM

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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 8:52 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Putin’s Military and Mercenaries Are Getting Slaughtered in Bakhmut

Russia Still Hasn’t Taken Bakhmut, and Wagner Is Scared: Despite reports that Ukrainian forces were conducting limited withdrawals from the city of Bakhmut, after Russian forces mostly surrounded the region, Ukrainian troops have yet to flee the city.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/03/putins-military-and-mercenaries-ar
e-getting-slaughtered-in-bakhmut/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 9:27 AM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Bc Russia is not a tyranny and Putin is not a dictator, ignorant troll.
Says the troll working for Putin.


Does Russia have a Constitution?
How was it enacted? By vote?
Does it enshrine individual rights?
How is the Russian government constituted? (i.e does it have legislative, judicial, and administrative parts)?

How is the Russian Legislature (Federal Assembly) constituted? i.e. is it bicameral? How many members? how are disricts drawn? are there any "at large" positions?
How many political parties exist in Russia?
Which ones get the most votes in the Federal Assembly?
What are the positions of the various parties?
How do they campaign?
How are votes held in Russia (ie paper ballot? electronic?)
How are they counted?
What percent of adult population votes in elections?
How often are national elections held?
What is the representation of women in the Russian Parliament?
What is the legislators' term of ofice?
How many parties stand candidates for President?
What is the Pesident's term of office?
How is the Vice President selected/elected?

If you answer these questions you'll have learned at least SOMEthing about Russia. And your criticisms won't be so blindingly stupid.

Troll.




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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

If you answer these questions you'll have learned at least SOMEthing about Russia. And your criticisms won't be so blindingly stupid.

Troll.
These two constitutions have much in common because Russia set North Korea into motion and each country is run by a belligerent and short man threatening to nuke the world:

Comrade Kim II Sung regarded “believing in the people as in heaven” as his motto, was always with the people, devoted his whole life to them, took care of and guided them with a noble politics of benevolence, and turned the whole society into one big and united family. – From the Preamble

https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Peoples_Republic_of_Kor
ea_1998.pdf

We, the multinational people of the Russian Federation, united by a common fate on our land, establishing human rights and freedoms, civil peace and accord, preserving the historically established State unity, proceeding from universally acknowledged principles of equality and self-determination of peoples, revering the memory of ancestors who have passed on to us their love for the Fatherland and faith in good and justice, reviving the sovereign statehood of Russia and asserting the firmness of its democratic basis, striving to ensure the well-being and prosperity of Russia, proceeding from the responsibility for our Fatherland before present and future generations, recognizing ourselves to be a part of the world community, do hereby adopt THE CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION. – From the Preamble

https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/Russia_2008.pdf

But more than being run by short, belligerent men who threaten the world with nukes, Russia and North Korea have the most important thing in common. Their Constitutions are bullshit.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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But more than being run by short, belligerent men who threaten the world with nukes, Russia and North Korea have the most important thing in common. Their Constitutions are bullshit.


That's what your party thinks about our Constitution too.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:17 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
But more than being run by short, belligerent men who threaten the world with nukes, Russia and North Korea have the most important thing in common. Their Constitutions are bullshit.


That's what your party thinks about our Constitution too.
Trump called for followers to wreck America if he is indicted. Trump is claiming that the Constitution forbids arresting ex-politicians. It does NOT forbid that.

Former President Donald Trump called on his backers to "protest" and "take our nation back" in an all-caps Truth Social post Saturday in which he predicted his own arrest, despite a lack of evidence he has been charged in an ongoing case before a New York grand jury.

Citing "illegal leaks," Trump wrote that he "will be arrested on Tuesday of next week."

"PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK!" he added, in an ominous echo of the words that preceded the deadly January 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol.

He followed up in a second all-caps post, writing, "IT'S TIME!!!"

"WE JUST CAN'T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE," Trump wrote. "THEY'RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA!PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!"

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/its-time-trump-call
s-on-supporters-to-protest-and-take-our-nation-back-in-an-ominous-echo-of-january-6-riot/articleshow/98761486.cms

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:44 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
But more than being run by short, belligerent men who threaten the world with nukes, Russia and North Korea have the most important thing in common. Their Constitutions are bullshit.


That's what your party thinks about our Constitution too.
Trump called for followers to wreck America if he is indicted. Trump is claiming that the Constitution forbids arresting ex-politicians. It does NOT forbid that.

Former President Donald Trump called on his backers to "protest" and "take our nation back" in an all-caps Truth Social post Saturday in which he predicted his own arrest, despite a lack of evidence he has been charged in an ongoing case before a New York grand jury.

Citing "illegal leaks," Trump wrote that he "will be arrested on Tuesday of next week."

"PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK!" he added, in an ominous echo of the words that preceded the deadly January 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol.

He followed up in a second all-caps post, writing, "IT'S TIME!!!"

"WE JUST CAN'T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE," Trump wrote. "THEY'RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA!PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!"

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/its-time-trump-call
s-on-supporters-to-protest-and-take-our-nation-back-in-an-ominous-echo-of-january-6-riot/articleshow/98761486.cms

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



He's telling people to protest.

You were all about protests during 2020 while your meth-head Antifa goons and your crack-head BLM goons were burning down the big cities.

Get fucked, retard.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:05 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This action is just political theater.

SECOND: When Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Milosevic.
When Muammar Gaddafi of Libya was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Gaddafi.
When Bashar al-Assad of Syria was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Al-Assad.
When Putin was charged with crimes, who did Signym side with?
What do these people have in common? Russia.

THUGR: Tyrants, dictators, thug’s murderers and criminals, one and all.

SIGNY: Oh fuck you, THUGR. Your ignorance is boundless. And worse, you refuse to learn bc you can never admit that you're wrong.

THUGR: Riddle me this comrade signym. Why do the women of Iran have a bigger set of balls than the Russians when it comes to standing up to tyrants and dictators?
Can_you_see_me_laughing?


Bc Russia is not a tyranny and Putin is not a dictator, ignorant troll.



Quote:
Why Putin is casting the Ukraine war as a fight for Russia’s survival Why western press is focusing on the "meaning" of the battle in Ukraine.
by Brad Dress - 03/21/23 1:48 PM ET

Because Russia is winning.



Ukraine Pictures Show Putin Sending Ancient T-54 Tanks to War

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-pictures-show-putin-sendi
ng-ancient-t-54-tanks-to-war/ar-AA18Wkpz?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=6540d62fe82441ffadb8afb346826f1a&ei=122


If you believe comrade signym. Russia is doing this because they are winning.

T

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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:36 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

He's telling people to protest.

You were all about protests during 2020 while your meth-head Antifa goons and your crack-head BLM goons were burning down the big cities.

Get fucked, retard.
I would think you have a valid point, except I know people with exactly, precisely, identically, the same beliefs as yours about BLM. They are all angry poor white trash who voted for Trump and are the most worthless men in Texas. Even their kids hate 'em, unless the kids also drank the same MAGA Kool-Aid Daddy did. Russia is full of people who feel about Ukrainians the same way you do about BLM because they drank Putin's Kool-Aid rather than Trump's concentrated mixture of nonsense and falsehoods.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This action is just political theater.

SECOND: When Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Milosevic.
When Muammar Gaddafi of Libya was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Gaddafi.
When Bashar al-Assad of Syria was charged with crimes, Signym sided with Al-Assad.
When Putin was charged with crimes, who did Signym side with?
What do these people have in common? Russia.

THUGR: Tyrants, dictators, thug’s murderers and criminals, one and all.

SIGNY: Oh fuck you, THUGR. Your ignorance is boundless. And worse, you refuse to learn bc you can never admit that you're wrong.

THUGR: Riddle me this comrade signym. Why do the women of Iran have a bigger set of balls than the Russians when it comes to standing up to tyrants and dictators?
Can_you_see_me_laughing?


Bc Russia is not a tyranny and Putin is not a dictator, ignorant troll.



Quote:
Why Putin is casting the Ukraine war as a fight for Russia’s survival Why western press is focusing on the "meaning" of the battle in Ukraine.
by Brad Dress - 03/21/23 1:48 PM ET

Because Russia is winning.



Ukraine Pictures Show Putin Sending Ancient T-54 Tanks to War

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-pictures-show-putin-sendi
ng-ancient-t-54-tanks-to-war/ar-AA18Wkpz?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=6540d62fe82441ffadb8afb346826f1a&ei=122


If you believe comrade signym. Russia is doing this because they are winning.

T
Why do you keep believing what Kiev says? I would have thought that, by now, having been caught in so many lies you would have gotten the idea that nearly everything "Kiev says" is a lie.

When Bakhmut falls... and it will ... Kiev will claim it killed a zillion Russians. Their much-awaited spring offensive will be accompanied by announcements of success after success. It'll be just like Berlin, right before it fell to the Russians.
You're a loser.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, since you can't identify differences between N Korea and Russia, it's clear that you still know nothing about anything.
You're a loser too.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 3:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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He's telling people to protest.

You were all about protests during 2020 while your meth-head Antifa goons and your crack-head BLM goons were burning down the big cities.

Get fucked, retard.
I would think you have a valid point


I do have a valid point.

You are a mindless, propagandized cunt that can't think for himself and isn't worth talking to.

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