REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

POSTED BY: CAPTAINCRUNCH
UPDATED: Saturday, November 23, 2024 10:01
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 152621
PAGE 17 of 150

Wednesday, June 15, 2022 6:19 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Yeah, yeah... we should all get together and defend the corrupt Ukrainian regime bc..?

More hyperpoble and frothing.

The simplified point of the Monitor's editorial: After Russia took Crimea by force in 2014 it suppressed all faiths in the peninsula other than the Russian Orthodox Church. Since February of this year, Russia has been destroying churches that are NOT Russian Orthodox. The war in 2022 reinforces Ukraine’s national narrative that it is a country that honors individual rights, especially religious liberty. As Ukrainians defend their own religious liberty, they are doing so for everyone.

https://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2022/0615/Why-o
ne-Ukraine-struggle-is-everyone-s


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, June 15, 2022 6:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Gosh. Maybe they shouldn't have picked a fight with Russia.

When prices go up more, I'll bet we'll be wishing the same thing


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake




Everybody in America except for rich white Democrats and people like me who have prepped for this day all their lives already have, a long time ago.

When gas hits $10 we're going to go back to having witch trials.

Keep bringing on the pain, Joe*. Watch the people devolve into Lord of the Flies under your watch.

I've got plenty of popcorn for the show.




Meanwhile though... Seriously. Stock up on shit now.

They're not telling you this, but the price of everything is going way up between late July and sometime in September. The lack of fertilizers and their impact on the harvests are about to send shockwaves through the economy.


--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, June 15, 2022 6:39 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Gosh. Maybe they shouldn't have picked a fight with Russia.

When prices go up more, I'll bet we'll be wishing the same thing


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake




Everybody in America except for rich white Democrats and people like me who have prepped for this day all their lives already have, a long time ago.

When gas hits $10 we're going to go back to having witch trials.

Keep bringing on the pain, Joe*. Watch the people devolve into Lord of the Flies under your watch.

I've got plenty of popcorn for the show.




Meanwhile though... Seriously. Stock up on shit now.

They're not telling you this, but the price of everything is going way up between late July and sometime in September. The lack of fertilizers and their impact on the harvests are about to send shockwaves through the economy.


--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

6ix, you really are crazy. Your predictions match up perfectly with the movie, Joker, and the rioting at the end. 6ix, you really liked that movie! Couldn't stop praising it:
Quote:

I've become so jaded that I didn't believe that Hollywood was even capable of putting a film like this out anymore. Not only was it the best comic book movie that likely will ever exist, but if one was being honest with themselves they'd be hard pressed to find another movie of any genre that was better than Joker.

Maybe I'm just still "high" off of it, and it wasn't as good as it "felt"? This is a possibility. Watching it was grueling. My first words to my old man when it finally ended were "I'm exhausted". I felt like I had just come out of the gym after a great workout... and I think my entire body had been tensed up for so long that this wasn't all that far from the truth.

Dozens of additional comments by 6ix praising Joker starting here: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=10857
85#1085785


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, June 16, 2022 3:47 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


How Russia Turned Its War Around

Putin isn’t winning yet. But his military is finally waging the kind of campaign it knows best.

The war is likely to slog on for as long as the weapons keep coming. Far from modifying their rhetoric, to allow for negotiation, the two sides have intensified their harshness. Putin — who once said he invaded in order to halt the eastward expansion of NATO, or to stop Ukraine’s mythical “genocide” in Donbas, or to “de-Nazify” the government in Kyiv — now likens himself to Peter the Great on a holy mission to recapture lost territory of the Russian empire. Zelensky, who not long ago took a stab at compromise by saying he didn’t have to join NATO after all, now pledges not to surrender a kilometer of Ukrainian territory.

Both sides insist they must win. For the moment, they’re both losing.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/06/how-russia-turned-its-war-
around.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, June 16, 2022 3:51 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Under Russian Artillery Fire, Ukrainians Wait on Western Arms

One soldier, who wasn’t authorized to speak on the record, said that Ukraine was still desperately awaiting weaponry that Western countries had promised, but there were severe logistical difficulties with getting it to the front lines. “It is all good and dandy that they’ve given us the howitzer, but how many did they give? For our little region here in Slovyansk and Kramatorsk, they gave us five or maybe seven things. They don’t give us tanks or proper air defense because they are fucking worried we will shoot into Russia!”

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/under-russian-artillery-fire-ukraini
ans-wait-on-western-arms
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, June 16, 2022 4:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OMFG, who cares???


The Country Is Going To Learn That A Recession Is Worse For Votes Than High Inflation"

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/country-going-learn-recession-worse-
votes-high-inflation


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, June 16, 2022 8:26 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
OMFG, who cares???

By proclaiming their support for Ukraine and Moldova becoming official candidates for EU membership, the leaders of France, Germany and Italy on Thursday sent an unequivocal message to Vladimir Putin: the Soviet sphere of influence is dead — and it will not be resurrected by force.

The leaders also delivered another even more pointed and immediate message to Russia: The EU and its allies will not strongarm Ukraine into any surrender or territorial compromise to end the war.

https://www.politico.eu/article/rhetoric-and-reality-collide-as-france
-germany-italy-back-ukraines-eu-bid
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Gosh. Maybe they shouldn't have picked a fight with Russia.

When prices go up more, I'll bet we'll be wishing the same thing


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake




Everybody in America except for rich white Democrats and people like me who have prepped for this day all their lives already have, a long time ago.

When gas hits $10 we're going to go back to having witch trials.

Keep bringing on the pain, Joe*. Watch the people devolve into Lord of the Flies under your watch.

I've got plenty of popcorn for the show.




Meanwhile though... Seriously. Stock up on shit now.

They're not telling you this, but the price of everything is going way up between late July and sometime in September. The lack of fertilizers and their impact on the harvests are about to send shockwaves through the economy.


--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

6ix, you really are crazy. Your predictions match up perfectly with the movie, Joker, and the rioting at the end.



One more dude. Do it. And I'm going to start posting the archives of all the stuff that you've deleted.

Try me.

Quote:

6ix, you really liked that movie! Couldn't stop praising it:


Yes. I did.

Quote:

I've become so jaded that I didn't believe that Hollywood was even capable of putting a film like this out anymore. Not only was it the best comic book movie that likely will ever exist, but if one was being honest with themselves they'd be hard pressed to find another movie of any genre that was better than Joker.

Maybe I'm just still "high" off of it, and it wasn't as good as it "felt"? This is a possibility. Watching it was grueling. My first words to my old man when it finally ended were "I'm exhausted". I felt like I had just come out of the gym after a great workout... and I think my entire body had been tensed up for so long that this wasn't all that far from the truth.




You keep posting this, dumbfuck, but you've never once read it.

I refuse to defend my stance on this movie to you ever again.

If you bring it up one more time and bastardize my entire take on it completely out of context, I will post every death threat and every Presidential assassination plot you've ever posted and quickly deleted on here for everyone to see, Arthur.

And then I'll take them all to Haken and get both of your lunatic handles banned off this site.

DO IT.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 9:45 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You keep posting this, dumbfuck, but you've never once read it.

I refuse to defend my stance on this movie to you ever again.

If you bring it up one more time and bastardize my entire take on it completely out of context, I will post every death threat and every Presidential assassination plot you've ever posted and quickly deleted on here for everyone to see, Arthur.

And then I'll take them all to Haken and get both of your lunatic handles banned off this site.

DO IT.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

I'm doing it: 6ix's motivation to love Joker is because 6ix feels as oppressed as Joker. 6ix, I accept the consequences. The next move is yours. 6ix, go to Haken, please-please-pretty please with sugar on top.

6ix, now prove that you're not a gigantic faker making empty threats because you are as emotional unstable as the Joker. For those unfamiliar with Joker: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7286456/

European leaders back ‘immediate’ candidate status for Ukraine to join EU

"Ukraine belongs to the European family," German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said at a joint briefing in Kyiv.

Meanwhile, French President Emmanuel Macron stressed the 27-member EU would stand by Ukraine until its victory against Russia.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 12:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You keep posting this, dumbfuck, but you've never once read it.

I refuse to defend my stance on this movie to you ever again.

If you bring it up one more time and bastardize my entire take on it completely out of context, I will post every death threat and every Presidential assassination plot you've ever posted and quickly deleted on here for everyone to see, Arthur.

And then I'll take them all to Haken and get both of your lunatic handles banned off this site.

DO IT.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

I'm doing it: 6ix's motivation to love Joker is because 6ix feels as oppressed as Joker. 6ix, I accept the consequences. The next move is yours. 6ix, go to Haken, please-please-pretty please with sugar on top.

6ix, now prove that you're not a gigantic faker making empty threats because you are as emotional unstable as the Joker.



It's on.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 2:38 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It's on.

This is what 6ix means by "It's on." --> http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65116

6ix, as soon as you attract Haken's attention, your "war" could be over, unless Haken decides to be neutral or divinely indifferent to your emotional needs.

(For those who don't know, Haken http://fireflyfans.net/profileshow.aspx?u=739 is the ultimate authority at fireflyfans.net )



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 2:41 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Written military orders recovered from dead Russian officer reveal Moscow's initial plan

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-defense-minister-writte
n-military-orders-recovered-from-dead-russian-officer-reveal-moscow-s-initial-plan/vi-AAYyLHf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 3:45 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Written military orders recovered from dead Russian officer reveal Moscow's initial plan



Hrrmmm... you might want to check out: "Operation Mincemeat" - sounds way too similar and very timely. Amazon just released a movie version.

"Operation Mincemeat was a successful British deception operation of the Second World War to disguise the 1943 Allied invasion of Sicily. Two members of British intelligence obtained the body of Glyndwr Michael, a tramp who died from eating rat poison, dressed him as an officer of the Royal Marines and placed personal items on him identifying him as the fictitious Captain (Acting Major) William Martin. Correspondence between two British generals which suggested that the Allies planned to invade Greece and Sardinia, with Sicily as merely the target of a feint, was also placed on the body."

Looks like that article has been removed.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 4:13 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Boris Johnson has announced that the UK will oversee a new three-week training programme for Ukrainian soldiers, as he visited Kyiv for the third time this year for talks with the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

In a statement released by No 10, Johnson said: “As Ukrainian soldiers fire UK missiles in defence of your nation’s sovereignty, they do so also in defence of the very freedoms we take for granted. That is why I have offered President Zelenskiy a major new military training programme that could change the equation of this war – harnessing that most powerful of forces, the Ukrainian determination to win.”

The UK has provided £1.3bn worth of economic and military support to Ukraine, including anti-tank missiles, armoured vehicles and plastic explosives. But Ukraine’s armed forces have been pressing for training on western military kit, as well as more heavy weapons. Kyiv wants a rapid influx of expertise and equipment so it can try to start pushing Russia back before the weather turns.

The new training programme announced by Johnson will involve UK-led courses lasting three weeks, and include battle skills, basic medical training, cybersecurity and counter-explosive tactics. The courses will take place outside Ukraine, most likely in Poland.

Johnson said: “Two months on from my last visit, the Ukrainian grit, determination and resilience is stronger than ever, and I know that unbreakable resolve will long outlive the vain ambitions of President Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/17/boris-johnson-promise
s-ukraine-uk-led-troop-training-scheme-on-kyiv-visit


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 4:37 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The European Union has “completely lost sovereignty” and is “dancing to someone else’s tunes”, Putin says. (Whose tune? Putin didn't say. Presumably the USA, but that's not what the EU says.)

He accuses the EU of “taking everything that is dictated to them and dealing harm” to its population, business and economy.

Turning to the global food crisis, Putin claims the problem “did not emerge today” and accuses Europe of “trying to blame it on someone else”.

He says:

Russia is certainly not to blame even though [western countries] are trying to pin the blame on us, on everything that’s happening in the world economy.

He accuses the US of driving up food prices by printing money and “snapping up” food on global markets.

Russia stands ready to boost its exports of grain and fertilisers, Putin says, and will send food exports to Africa and the Middle East. ("Russia stands ready" means nothing since Putin didn't say why he hasn't already sent the food. Maybe he waits for a "Feed The World" concert with Lady Gaga, the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney and Elton John to be held before Putin acts? No such concert has been scheduled.)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/jun/17/russia-ukraine-war-
eu-to-give-fast-tracked-opinion-on-kyiv-bid-russia-low-on-troops-and-missiles-uk-defence-chief-says-live?page=with:block-62ac7f818f08daac4266afba#block-62ac7f818f08daac4266afba


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 6:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It's on.

This is what 6ix means by "It's on." --> http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65116

6ix, as soon as you attract Haken's attention, your "war" could be over, unless Haken decides to be neutral or divinely indifferent to your emotional needs.

(For those who don't know, Haken http://fireflyfans.net/profileshow.aspx?u=739 is the ultimate authority at fireflyfans.net )



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Sure. Pretend that your Reaverfan handle wasn't banned.

Right after you said something similar in this thread:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=2&tid=64324&mid=113098
1#1130981


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
If you want to send a message to Haken, use the "SEND ME A MESSAGE" link, which is a direct prayer link to the God of fireflyfans.net, at http://www.fireflyfans.net/profileshow.aspx?u=739

What's the worst that could happen? Haken deletes you? After deletion, you will live on, 6ixStringJack, at least in our memory as an obnoxious whiny little Trumptard.

Fact Check: Trump Is Indeed a Big Whiny Baby
https://reason.com/2016/10/19/fact-check-trump-is-indeed-a-big-whiny-b/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Keep it up.

Every time you post something worth archiving now, it will be added to the thread and bumped. I will now also be putting it in the Testing thread where your other handle was banned too.


I'm giving you fair warning. Heed it, or don't.



Oh, and P.S....

You never did answer my question from July 31, 2021:

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
What's the worst that could happen? Haken deletes you? After deletion, you will live on, 6ixStringJack, at least in our memory as an obnoxious whiny little Trumptard.



Things didn't actually turn out the way you imagined they would when "God" finally intervened, did they?






--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 7:53 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Sure. Pretend that your Reaverfan handle wasn't banned.

I am not "Reaverfan". You reminded me that Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov compared Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who is Jewish, to Hitler and accused Jews of anti-Semitism. (Lavrov and 6ixStringJack have been speaking the opposite of truth so often that even their bowels run backwards, from their small intestines, up their esophagus, and out of their mouths. Nasty looking pair with brown lies on their lips: Lavrov and 6ix.)

Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid on Sunday called Mr. Lavrov’s comments “a terrible historical error” and said he was summoning Russia’s ambassador for consultations and would demand an apology.

Asked Sunday by Italy’s Rete 4 channel about Russian claims that it invaded Ukraine to “denazify” the country, Mr. Lavrov said that Ukraine could still have Nazi elements even if some figures, including Zelensky, were Jewish.

“When they say, ‘What sort of Nazification is this if we are Jews’—well I think that Hitler also had Jewish origins, so it means nothing,” Mr. Lavrov said, speaking through an interpreter.

He added: “For a long time now we’ve been hearing the wise Jewish people say that the biggest anti-Semites are the Jews themselves.”

Russian officials have repeatedly claimed that one of their aims in attacking Ukraine was to remove Nazi elements from its government.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said the invasion of Ukraine is justified because the country’s leaders are nationalists and neo-Nazis who must be stopped from carrying out a genocide against Russians and Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine. He has provided no evidence for the claims.

Mr. Lavrov appeared to amplify a conspiracy theory that Hitler’s paternal grandfather was Jewish, which was first popularized by the 1953 memoir by Hitler’s lawyer Hans Frank, who claimed to have found evidence of the Nazi leader’s alleged Jewish ancestry.

These claims have been dismissed by mainstream historians.

In the Soviet Union, and later in Russia, the terms “Nazi” and “fascist” have been frequently used to smear all opponents, including opposition activists and foreign critics.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-05-02
/card/russia-foreign-minister-compares-ukraine-s-jewish-president-to-hitler-israel-summons-russian-ambassador-cvzXGLD3avomIPVsNUob-cvzXGLD3avomIPVsNUob


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 8:05 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Ukraine says it hit Russian navy tugboat with two Harpoon missiles

Just days after the US committed to supplying Harpoon missile launchers to Ukraine, the Ukrainian navy managed the first Harpoon missile strike of the war.

Ukraine's navy said they struck the Russian navy's Vasiliy Bekh tugboat in the Black Sea with two Harpoon missiles on Friday, the first time Ukraine has said it hit a Russian vessel with Harpoons.

The Vasiliy Bekh was allegedly transporting ammunition, weapons and personnel for the Black Sea Fleet to Snake Island. Most notably, the vessel was allegedly carrying a TOR M2KM anti-air surface-to-air missile system. It would be the 14th vessel lost by the Russian fleet since the war began.

Ukraine's Armed Forces Strategic Communications Directorate published a video purporting to show the strike from the air, but Reuters could not independently verify the footage.

More at https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-709721



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, June 17, 2022 8:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yes. You are Reaverfan. And I've got receipts.

None of that technically matters though because there is no TOS on this site regarding sockpuppet accounts. It is just useful information when painting a picture of who the real you is.

Put yourself together, or we will continue to add your future comments to the already very long list of terrible shit you've said here that would have already seen you banned from any social media platform.

Push it hard enough and I will get you removed from this site just like I got your alternate handle removed.

This is not a threat. It is a promise.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 4:07 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Quote:

Turning to the global food crisis, Putin claims the problem “did not emerge today” and accuses Europe of “trying to blame it on someone else”.
He says:
Russia is certainly not to blame even though [western countries] are trying to pin the blame on us, on everything that’s happening in the world economy.
He accuses the US of driving up food prices by printing money and “snapping up” food on global markets.

Russia stands ready to boost its exports of grain and fertilisers, Putin says, and will send food exports to Africa and the Middle East.

"Russia stands ready" means nothing since Putin didn't say why he hasn't already sent the food.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/jun/17/russia-ukraine-war-
eu-to-give-fast-tracked-opinion-on-kyiv-bid-russia-low-on-troops-and-missiles-uk-defence-chief-says-live?page=with:k-62ac7f818f08daac4266afba#block-62ac7f818f08daac4266afba


The reason "why" there is a global food crisis is because of sanctions against Russia and the reason "why" Russia has not stepped in with Africa is because of sanctions against Russian banks. It's difficult for African banks to arrange non- dollar payments through non-SWIFT systems, which I what the African Union was organizing with Russia.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 6:05 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

The reason "why" there is a global food crisis is because of sanctions against Russia and the reason "why" Russia has not stepped in with Africa is because of sanctions against Russian banks. It's difficult for African banks to arrange non- dollar payments through non-SWIFT systems, which I what the African Union was organizing with Russia.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Russia does NOT need to be paid for grain that it stole from Ukraine:

Russia Seeks Buyers for Plundered Ukraine Grain, U.S. Warns
American diplomats have alerted 14 countries, most in Africa, that Russian ships filled with stolen Ukrainian grain could be headed their way, posing a dilemma to countries facing dire food shortages.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/world/africa/ukraine-grain-russia-s
ales.html


Meanwhile, Putin Claims Russia Will ‘Guarantee’ Peaceful Export Of Ukrainian Grain
Putin denied accusations his armed forces are blocking Ukrainian grain exports from the Black Sea and said his government would “guarantee" peaceful passage to ships leaving Ukraine's ports. (Putin has NOT told his Navy about his “guarantee", for some reason. Putin is such an entertaining comedian. )
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-war-grain/31882556.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 6:43 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yes. You are Reaverfan. And I've got receipts.

None of that technically matters though because there is no TOS on this site regarding sockpuppet accounts. It is just useful information when painting a picture of who the real you is.

Put yourself together, or we will continue to add your future comments to the already very long list of terrible shit you've said here that would have already seen you banned from any social media platform.

Push it hard enough and I will get you removed from this site just like I got your alternate handle removed.

This is not a threat. It is a promise.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

6ix, you have learned two ways from Putin about how to get people to do what 6ix wants them to do.

1. 6ix, you sound like Putin when he threatens to have somebody nuke the USA. But Russian generals probably aren't listening because Putin is a crazy pipsqueak (possibly dying of cancer). 6ix reminds me of other crazy pipsqueaks I know. Funny how pipsqueaks vote for Trump. I doubt Haken voted for Trump. I doubt Haken writes "nobody cares about Ukraine" as 6ix does, but you never know. Maybe Haken will bend to your crazy will, 6ix, because Haken senses something worthwhile beyond your squeakiness.

2. Have you recently heard all the things Putin is saying about the USA? Short version is that Russia is not fighting Ukraine. Rather it is fighting the USA. Putin knows that he is rabble-rousing Russians, in order to get them to support the war. It is of no consequence that his lies will be recognized back in the USA and EU because his Russians won't know they have been lied to. Similarly, 6ix, you lying about me, misidentifying me as "Reaverfan", the way Putin is lying about the USA.

I continue to love 6ix's signature "Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus" or "false in one thing, false in everything." Putin would wisely not make that his signature because he, unlike 6ix, would understand the irony. Liars such as Putin, 6ix and Trump should never point out that everything they say is not to be trusted. 6ix is the only one of the 3 dumb enough to make lying part of his personal signature.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 6:59 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The fog of war and international relations in Ukraine

Eric Kramer | June 17, 2022 8:51 am
https://angrybearblog.com/2022/06/the-fog-of-war-and-international-rel
ations-in-ukraine


Understanding the situation in Ukraine and how it will likely evolve in the future is impossible for me, partly due the inherent complexity and unpredictability of war and international relations, and partly because the main players have such strong incentives to strategically misrepresent their actions and intentions. Are the Ukrainians really getting killed by Russian artillery fire in unsustainable numbers, or are the Ukrainians putting pressure on Biden and the Europeans to step up arms deliveries? Is the U.S. committed to supplying the Ukrainians with needed weapons as rapidly as training and logistics permit, or are we slow-walking arms deliveries? Are we willing to leave the end-game negotiations entirely to the Ukrainians, or are we prepared to pressure Ukraine into a land-for-peace deal by withholding material support? Even if Biden/European leaders are willing to support the Ukrainians now, how will public opinion evolve (against Ukraine, I am afraid)? What happens if Russia turns off the oil or gas spigots? If Ukraine holds off the current Russian onslaught, will they be able to mount a sustainable offensive to reclaim captured land?

Granted I am not at all an expert in military affairs and international relations, but people who spend their lives studying these issues come to different conclusions that to me seem at least somewhat plausible.

Some links:

1. Logistical challenges getting HIMARS/MLRS to Ukraine.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/1/2101780/-Ukraine-Update-Not-
enough-Here-s-the-challenge-of-moving-even-four-HIMARS


2. Russian energy warfare.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220618093554/https://www.wsj.com/article
s/russia-slashes-gas-flows-aiming-economic-weapon-at-europe-11655393254
Quote:

“The Kremlin believes it’s in a perennial struggle with the U.S. and EU both on the battlefields in Ukraine and in geoeconomics, and Moscow has few tools to punch back and inflict pain on its opponents,” said Alexander Gabuev, senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “Gas is the most potent one, and it looks like Moscow has decided to make the first move now without giving Europe time to prepare and disrupt the filling of storages.”

3. Russian information warfare, outwaiting public opinion.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1534759968628518914
Quote:

This compilation of clips explains why the Russians think they're winning and don't need to negotiate. Spoiler: they're waiting for the GOP to prevail in midterms and abandon Ukraine. They're also encouraged by our media coverage—especially Tucker Carlson.

4. And Biden asks Blinken and Austin to tone it down on war aims. (I guess it’s message discipline for thee, but not for me.)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/secretaries-defense
-state-said-publicly-us-wanted-ukraine-win-biden-sa-rcna33826


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:05 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Quote:

Turning to the global food crisis, Putin claims the problem “did not emerge today” and accuses Europe of “trying to blame it on someone else”.

The reason "why" there is a global food crisis is because of sanctions against Russia and the reason "why" Russia has not stepped in with Africa is because of sanctions against Russian banks. It's difficult for African banks to arrange non- dollar payments through non-SWIFT systems, which I what the African Union was organizing with Russia.





T



UKRAINE FIGHTS FOR EVERY INCH! Current Ukraine War Footage With The Enforcer (Day 113)



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yes. You are Reaverfan. And I've got receipts.

None of that technically matters though because there is no TOS on this site regarding sockpuppet accounts. It is just useful information when painting a picture of who the real you is.

Put yourself together, or we will continue to add your future comments to the already very long list of terrible shit you've said here that would have already seen you banned from any social media platform.

Push it hard enough and I will get you removed from this site just like I got your alternate handle removed.

This is not a threat. It is a promise.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

6ix, you have learned two ways from Putin about how to get people to do what 6ix wants them to do.

1. 6ix, you sound like Putin when he threatens to have somebody nuke the USA. But Russian generals probably aren't listening because Putin is a crazy pipsqueak (possibly dying of cancer). 6ix reminds me of other crazy pipsqueaks I know. Funny how pipsqueaks vote for Trump. I doubt Haken voted for Trump. I doubt Haken writes "nobody cares about Ukraine" as 6ix does, but you never know. Maybe Haken will bend to your crazy will, 6ix, because Haken senses something worthwhile beyond your squeakiness.

2. Have you recently heard all the things Putin is saying about the USA? Short version is that Russia is not fighting Ukraine. Rather it is fighting the USA. Putin knows that he is rabble-rousing Russians, in order to get them to support the war. It is of no consequence that his lies will be recognized back in the USA and EU because his Russians won't know they have been lied to. Similarly, 6ix, you lying about me, misidentifying me as "Reaverfan", the way Putin is lying about the USA.

I continue to love 6ix's signature "Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus" or "false in one thing, false in everything." Putin would wisely not make that his signature because he, unlike 6ix, would understand the irony. Liars such as Putin, 6ix and Trump should never point out that everything they say is not to be trusted. 6ix is the only one of the 3 dumb enough to make lying part of his personal signature.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Oh, the irony.



Sure thing, Reaverfan.



--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 2:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SECOND: Turning to the global food crisis, Putin claims the problem “did not emerge today” and accuses Europe of “trying to blame it on someone else”.

SIGNY: The reason "why" there is a global food crisis is because of sanctions against Russia and the reason "why" Russia has not stepped in with Africa is because of sanctions against Russian banks. It's difficult for African banks to arrange non- dollar payments through non-SWIFT systems, which I what the African Union was organizing with Russia.

THUGR:
UKRAINE FIGHTS FOR EVERY INCH! Current Ukraine War Footage With The Enforcer (Day 113)

http://www.youtube. com/watch?v=2WXOSgYJoGs



I guess when THUGR has nothing RELEVANT to add, he adds something pointless/

HEY, THUGR: "Fighting for every inch" is NOT a winning strategy. it is a strategy designed to get Ukrainian soldiers killed en masse. When you have air control and the upper hand in longer-range weapons, as Russia does, concentrations of Ukrainian troops and materiel will simply be destroyed. Pouring more men and weaponry into range of Russia's artillery is a losing proposition and a guarantee of defeat. It's tragic and tragically stupid, not heroic.

Ukraine DOES have some areas heavily trenched and isn't above emplacing its weaponry in apartment buildings, schools, hospitals and malls, so that complicates Russian use of artillery and longer-range weapons. But if Ukrainian troops can be drawn out into a kill zone, as has happened in northern Luhansk, the Russians don't mind shelling all week long.

Yeah! FIGHT ON, Ukie troops! /snark


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 4:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


From Moon of Alabama, a German blogger with a military background.

Quote:

Ukraine - The West's Response As It Meets With Reality

This morning I watched an hour long discussion (vid) by 'experts' at the Center for Strategic & International Studies about assessing Russia's war in Ukraine. I have to say that these folks know nothing that is relevant. They seem to have never heard of Sun Tsu's dictum 'Know your enemy':

Sun Tzu says, “To know your enemy, you must become your enemy,” but how do you become your enemy? You need to put yourself in the place of your enemy so you can predict his actions.

Not once did the CSIS people consider the view of Russia or its real intent. They talk about this or that U.S. option but do not even once consider how the other side would react to it.

One of the CSIS 'experts' says that Russia had planned to take Kiev but failed. Take Kiev with what? There were some 20-30.000 Russian soldiers near Kiev which has some 3 million inhabitants. Historically one needs one soldier for every 40 civilians to occupy a city or country after the fighting is mostly over. Russia would have needed more than two and a half times the number of troops it had around Kiev to take and hold the city.

Several of the CSIS 'experts' have previously held high government positions in the security state. With folks like them it is no wonder to see how badly the U.S. plan to drag Russia into a long war in Ukraine is playing out.

As Daniel Larson correctly writes: We should’ve known sanctions on Russia wouldn’t work as intended
The other side of the game is much more conscious of the real situation and it does consider and correctly predicts U.S. reactions.

On Thursday the Foreign Minister of the Russian federation Sergey Lavrov gave three interviews to different news outlets.

The first one with TASS was quite short.
Transcript: Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with TASS news agency, St Petersburg, June 16, 2022

The second one with BBC shows an acerbic Lavrov who several times reminds the interviewer that many cruel things had happened in Ukraine before the "Special Military Operation" started on February 24, that negotiations had failed and that Ukrainian duties under the Minsk agreements were not carried out. The interviewer tries again and again to neglect that historical context and to put the blame for the war on Russia. Lavrov calls that a form of 'chancel culture'.
BBC: Video with English subtitles
Transcript: Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with the BBC TV channel, St Petersburg, June 16, 2022

Question: But the situation changed four months ago …

Sergey Lavrov: The situation has not changed. We are going back to what the Minsk agreements were coordinated for: protecting Russians in Donbass, who have been betrayed by the French and Germans. The British also played a leading role. All our Western colleagues kept saying they were unable to make Kiev honour the Minsk agreements.
...
Question: In the eyes of the West, Russia is responsible for these people. Do you think the death sentence …

Sergey Lavrov: I am not interested in the “eyes of the West” at all. I am only interested in international law, according to which mercenaries are not combatants. So nothing in your eyes matters.

The last Lavrov interview is with a Russian TV station. It is the longest but also the best. It explains Russia's position quite well and is easy to understand.
Transcript: Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with the NTV network, St Petersburg, June 16, 2022

A day after Lavrov's interviews president Vladimir Putin held a speech at the 25th St.Petersburg economic forum. The transcript is here:
Full text of Vladimir Putin’s speech at SPIEF June 17, 2022

The speech is long but the second part is about domestic economic measures in Russia and not of much interest. I recommend to read the fist part in full but here are a few bits:

A direct result of the European politicians’ actions and events this year will be the further growth of inequality in these countries, which will, in turn, split their societies still more, and the point at issue is not only the well-being but also the value orientation of various groups in these societies.

Indeed, these differences are being suppressed and swept under the rug. Frankly, the democratic procedures and elections in Europe and the forces that come to power look like a front, because almost identical political parties come and go, while deep down things remain the same. The real interests of people and national businesses are being pushed further and further to the periphery.

Such a disconnect from reality and the demands of society will inevitably lead to a surge in populism and extremist and radical movements, major socioeconomic changes, degradation and a change of elites in the short term. As you can see, traditional parties lose all the time. New entities are coming to the surface, but they have little chance for survival if they are not much different from the existing ones.
...
Incidentally, the Americans have adopted sanctions on our fertilisers, and the Europeans followed suit. Later, the Americans lifted them because they saw what this could lead to. But the Europeans have not backed off. Their bureaucracy is as slow as a flour mill in the 18th century. In other words, everyone knows that they have done a stupid thing, but they find it difficult to retrace their steps for bureaucratic reasons.
...
The very structure of Western sanctions rested on the false premise that economically Russia is not sovereign and is critically vulnerable. They got so carried away spreading the myth of Russia’s backwardness and its weak positions in the global economy and trade that apparently, they started believing it themselves.

While planning their economic blitzkrieg, they did not notice, simply ignored the real facts of how much our country had changed in the past few years.

Exactly.
---

National Defense Magazine had an interview with the logistic commander of the Ukrainian land forces which includes some revealing details.

BREAKING: Ukraine to U.S. Defense Industry: We Need Long-Range, Precision Weapons (UPDATED)

First, you have to understand that the frontline is 2,500 kilometers long. The frontline where there is active combat in more than 1,000 kilometers long. That’s like from Kyiv to Berlin.
...
Think about this: one brigade occupies around 40 kilometers of the fence line. That means that to cover the active combat conflict we need 40 brigades. Every brigade is 100 infantry fighting vehicles, 30 tanks, 54 artillery systems — just for one brigade, and we have 40 of them.

I'm not going to talk about the anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons for now. I’m just talking about heavy weapons. As of today,we have approximately 30 to 40, sometimes up to 50 percent of losses of equipment as a result of active combat. So, we have lost approximately 50 percent. … Approximately 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles have been lost, 400 tanks, 700 artillery systems.

I believe that those loss numbers are too low. The daily Russian clobber list counts more than double of those numbers as destroyed. While that list is very likely off (as any such lists inevitably are) I doubt that it is off by that much.

Colonel Markus Reisner of the military academy of Austria provides a presentation (vid) about the 'heavy metal' the Ukraine has lost and for which some replacement is now coming from the 'west'.

According to him Ukraine started the war with 2416 tanks and other armored vehicles, 1509 field artillery and mortars, 535 MRLS and so on. (Ukraine like had additional depots with more rusty weapons in various states of (dis)repair.) It has additionally receive 250 tanks and other armored vehicles, and some 200 field artillery pieces and 50 MLRS.

It had in total 21 active brigades with 14 more in reserve plus various support units. That is less than the 40 the Ukrainian commander says are needed to cover the frontline and no reserves. The newly delivered stuff could provide for one or two more brigades. But with a 50% loss rate at least half of all that is likely already gone.

The Ukraine is not building reserves that could launch a counterattack but seems to send anything that comes from the 'west' directly to the frontline. It is in total far too little to replace the daily losses and certainly not enough to create forces for counterattacks.

The Ukrainian logistic commander also mentions that the U.S. delivered howitzer are very vulnerable:

Unfortunately, we don't have an opportunity today to have foreign supplied equipment sent back to a restoration facility simply because of time constraints. That is why we are discussing spare parts here so that we can maintain and repair that equipment right in the field.

For example, the M777 artillery systems are really prone to being damaged by enemy artillery. For every battery of M777, there are six pieces.

After every artillery contact, we have to take two artillery pieces and take them back to the rear to maintain them because some of the subsystems are damaged by shrapnel. This happens every day.

I bet that Soviet era equipment is much less prone to break under fire.
---

Last but not least let me point you to a fine essay by Aurelian about the future of the 'west' as the new reality sets in.

The Hinges of History Creak.
The future will develop not necessarily to the West’s advantage

However, western nations continue to act as though they were economically and militarily superior, and to try to coerce nations on which they are economically dependent, as well as fighting a proxy war against a nation which has more combat capability in Europe than they have.
...
In this sense, Ukraine is a test to destruction of both NATO and the EU, and the wider, western-dominated multilateral system they are both part of. NATO, in particular, has just been confronted by exactly the kind of situation that its founders expected—the exercise of Russian military power—and it did effectively nothing. No amount of hand-waving, no amount of sanctions or arms deliveries, can change that fact, which in turn changes everything. NATO and the EU can prolong the war, cause more suffering, and destroy many economies, including their own. But they can’t fundamentally affect the result, and the nature of their responses, beneath the surface posturing, demonstrates that they know this.
...
There is another new normal now: a Europe in which Russia is the largest military power, and where the West as a whole is dependent on Russia, China and India for its economic prosperity. This is not new, of course, but it’s a shame that nobody noticed it before.

And the reason for that is that the 'west' in its arrogance has for far too long listened to fake 'experts' like those at the CSIS


All the links to original transcripts and videos can be found here
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-the-wests-response-as-it
-meets-with-reality.html#more



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:24 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR:
UKRAINE FIGHTS FOR EVERY INCH! Current Ukraine War Footage With The Enforcer (Day 113)

http://www.youtube. com/watch?v=2WXOSgYJoGs


Quote:


I guess when THUGR has nothing RELEVANT to add, he adds something pointless/

HEY, THUGR: "Fighting for every inch" is NOT a winning strategy. it is a strategy designed to get Ukrainian soldiers killed en masse. When you have air control and the upper hand in longer-range weapons, as Russia does, concentrations of Ukrainian troops and materiel will simply be destroyed. Pouring more men and weaponry into range of Russia's artillery is a losing proposition and a guarantee of defeat. It's tragic and tragically stupid, not heroic.

Ukraine DOES have some areas heavily trenched and isn't above emplacing its weaponry in apartment buildings, schools, hospitals and malls, so that complicates Russian use of artillery and longer-range weapons. But if Ukrainian troops can be drawn out into a kill zone, as has happened in northern Luhansk, the Russians don't mind shelling all week long.

Yeah! FIGHT ON, Ukie troops! /snark








T




NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, June 18, 2022 10:53 PM

THG





T




NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 12:34 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Get fucked Ukraine.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 2:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I have never seen such nonsense from our psyops except TRUMPRUSSIACOLLUSION1

Oh, and QUIDPROQUO!
IRAQ WMD!
ASSADGASSEDHOWOWNPEOPLE!
QADDAFIMASSACREDHISOWNPEOPLE!
...
OK, nevermind... Too many examples to list

But THUGR keeps lapping up this vomit as if it was the tastiest dish in the world.

*****

Hey THUGR, for a counternarrative, straight from the Ukraine military itself

Quote:

National Defense Magazine had an interview with the logistic commander of the Ukrainian land forces which includes some revealing details.

First, you have to understand that the frontline is 2,500 kilometers long. The frontline where there is active combat in more than 1,000 kilometers long. That’s like from Kyiv to Berlin.
...
Think about this: one brigade occupies around 40 kilometers of the fence line. That means that to cover the active combat conflict we need 40 brigades. Every brigade is 100 infantry fighting vehicles, 30 tanks, 54 artillery systems — just for one brigade, and we have 40 of them.

I'm not going to talk about the anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons for now. I’m just talking about heavy weapons. As of today,we have approximately 30 to 40, sometimes up to 50 percent of losses of equipment as a result of active combat. So, we have lost approximately 50 percent. … Approximately 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles have been lost, 400 tanks, 700 artillery systems.



If you total up replacements provided by "the west", they make up only approximately 10% of the intial equipment ... not even covering the losses that Kiev has experienced.
Please, for your own sake, stop being a brainless cheerleader. Surely, you're more capable than that.



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 5:39 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Kyiv’s Theory of Victory
By Dmytro Kuleba, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine.
June 17, 2022

Although rising food and energy costs are serious problems, giving in to Moscow is no solution — and not only because of what it will mean for Ukrainians. Russia is a revanchist country bent on remaking the entire world through force. It actively works to destabilize African, Arab, and Asian states both through its own military and through proxies. These conflicts have created their own humanitarian crises, and if Ukraine loses they will only grow worse. In victory, Putin would be emboldened to stir up more unrest and create more disasters across the developing world.

Putin’s increased aggression wouldn’t be limited to the developing world. He would meddle with more vigor in U.S. and European politics. If he succeeds in conquering Ukraine’s south, he may march deeper into the continent by invading Moldova, where Russian proxies already control a slice of territory. He could even trigger a new war in the western Balkans, where increasingly antagonistic Serbian elites have looked to Russia for inspiration and support.

More at https://www.foreignaffairs.com/print/node/1129020

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 8:13 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Russia is "working to destabilize" nations in Africa, the Mideast, and Asia?
Really???
Like, WHICH NATIONS?
He can't name them, and I'll bet you can't either.

More bullshit from Kiev.


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 8:34 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia is "working to destabilize" nations in Africa, the Mideast, and Asia?
Really???
Like, WHICH NATIONS?
He can't name them, and I'll bet you can't either.

More bullshit from Kiev.

A very easy question to answer is 'Which countries are Russian mercenaries operating?'
https://www.google.com/search?q=which+countries+are+russian+mercenarie
s+operating


1. Russian mercenaries are Putin’s ‘coercive tool’ in Africa
Russia has deployed the Wagner Group in military operations across at least half a dozen African nations.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/23/russia-putin-wagner-group-mer
cenaries-africa


2. Moscow's Mercenary Wars: The Expansion of Russian Private Military Companies With operations in as many as 30 countries across 4 continents
https://russianpmcs.csis.org

3. Russia Flounders in Ukraine but Doubles Down in Mali
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/14/russia-ukraine-mali-wagner-group-
mercenaries
/

Signym, there are 4,280,000 more results. I'm sure that you don't know what you write about. I think your next rhetorical gambit should be the typical Russian Whataboutism about the United States having troops in foreign countries. For my entire life, Russian propagandists always do that next.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Get fucked Ukraine.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:25 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Lithuanian PM: Russia ‘keeps on proving we were right’

As Europe reels from Russia’s war against Ukraine, Lithuania—a Baltic country that’s intimately familiar with Kremlin domination—has emerged as a clear leader in responding to its aggression.

For years, said Prime Minister Ingrida Šimonyte at an exclusive Atlantic Council Front Page event Thursday, her country has warned the West about the security dangers posed by a revanchist Russia—which she says “keeps on proving we were right” about seeing Moscow as a threat.

“When people sometimes say, ‘Look, you were right—we should have been listening to you,’ I feel no happiness about it,” she told moderator Evelyn Farkas, a former US deputy assistant secretary of defense and the executive director of the McCain Institute.

Šimonyte described how her country of just 2.7 million, which has also boosted Taiwan and the Belarusian opposition, responds to the geopolitical challenges presented by Russia and other problematic states. Here are some more highlights from the conversation:

Šimonyte credits her country’s speedy integration into the global economy for its success in transitioning from communism to liberal democracy. But that’s not a universal recipe for democratization—something Lithuania’s proximity to Russia has helped reveal. “We actually lost our belief that Russia is willing to become part of this global economy in good faith,” she said.

Through its weaponization of energy, among other commodities, the Kremlin has shown that global economic interconnectedness is bound to “backfire if we are not smart enough to think of alternatives,” Šimonyte added.

More at https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/lithuanian-pm-ru
ssia-keeps-on-proving-we-were-right
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 10:44 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody cares.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 10:50 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

Does your Mom know you are this way? "Boy, I love meeting people’s moms. It’s like reading an instruction manual as to why they’re nuts." - Ted Lasso
https://www.magicalquote.com/seriesquotes/i-love-meeting-peoples-moms/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 10:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

Does your Mom know you are this way? "Boy, I love meeting people’s moms. It’s like reading an instruction manual as to why they’re nuts." - Ted Lasso



http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65116

hmmmmmmmm.......

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 11:07 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

Does your Mom know you are this way? "Boy, I love meeting people’s moms. It’s like reading an instruction manual as to why they’re nuts." - Ted Lasso



http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65116

hmmmmmmmm.......

Haken hasn't done what you asked for, 6ix. I think it is because Haken knows you are nuts. Does your Mom know you are this way?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 11:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

Does your Mom know you are this way? "Boy, I love meeting people’s moms. It’s like reading an instruction manual as to why they’re nuts." - Ted Lasso



http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65116

hmmmmmmmm.......

Haken hasn't done what you asked for, 6ix. I think it is because Haken knows you are nuts. Does your Mom know you are this way?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Haken probably has better things to do with his life than look at the garbage in the RWED.

Don't worry though. I'm sure it won't be long before you start voicing your assassination fantasies or death threats again and we can start posting it in the TESTING thread where he will see it.



Let's get off moms now. I just got off yours.



--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 11:36 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Let's get off moms now. I just got off yours.

6ix, are you a necrophiliac? Mom's dead since 2013. As far as Wikipedia, Putin might have killed his mom, which explains his bizarre relationship with Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin#Family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Putina

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 12:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia is "working to destabilize" nations in Africa, the Mideast, and Asia?
Really???
Like, WHICH NATIONS?
He can't name them, and I'll bet you can't either.

More bullshit from Kiev.

A very easy question to answer is 'Which countries are Russian mercenaries operating?'
https://www.google.com/search?q=which+countries+are+russian+mercenarie
s+operating


1. Russian mercenaries are Putin’s ‘coercive tool’ in Africa
Russia has deployed the Wagner Group in military operations across at least half a dozen African nations.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/23/russia-putin-wagner-group-mer
cenaries-africa


2. Moscow's Mercenary Wars: The Expansion of Russian Private Military Companies With operations in as many as 30 countries across 4 continents
https://russianpmcs.csis.org

3. Russia Flounders in Ukraine but Doubles Down in Mali
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/14/russia-ukraine-mali-wagner-group-
mercenaries
/

Signym, there are 4,280,000 more results. I'm sure that you don't know what you write about. I think your next rhetorical gambit should be the typical Russian Whataboutism about the United States having troops in foreign countries. For my entire life, Russian propagandists always do that next.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Yes, and do you want to know WHY they're in various nations?

To FIGHT TERRORISTS.
NOT to destabilize.
Destabiliztion: That's OUR job.

You are such a tool.


Oh yeah: Fuck Ukraine.


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 2:19 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, and do you want to know WHY they're in various nations?

Oh yeah: Fuck Ukraine.

Why? To slaughter women and children.

Please see 5,860,000 results for Atrocity Russian Private Military Companies
https://www.google.com/search?q=atrocity+Russian+Private+Military+Comp
anies


Signym, you can lie all you want about dead women and children, but the Russians do leave behind heaps of corpses and your lies resurrect nobody.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 2:51 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


What if Russia’s army fails in Ukraine?

Despite incremental gains in eastern Ukraine, a Russian military collapse is possible. Russian forces could suffer catastrophic defeat akin to that of Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser’s army in the 1967 Six Day War, when more than 80 percent of its military materiel was lost.

Is such a defeat possible? Military history is replete with breakdowns. Last summer, the Afghan armed forces collapsed amid weak governance and extreme corruption. So have other large or well-equipped armies — the demoralized Russian army in 1917; the outmaneuvered French army in 1940 and British army in Singapore in 1942; and the weakened South Vietnamese army in 1975 and Iraqi army in Mosul in 2014.

Central to these fiascos was a lack of cohesion in military institutions, poor governance and corruption, and popular unwillingness to defend the state. Military theorist Carl von Clausewitz’s emphasis on sound relationships between the army, government and society appears valid.

A Russian military collapse might have several implications.

First, it might encourage Western countries to boost train-and-equip programs in other countries near Russia. In Ukraine, this effort seems to have helped it adopt more flexible and successful NATO-like tactics.

Second, the collapse may cause Western intelligence analysts to reevaluate estimates of the vulnerability of the Baltics and Eastern Europe to Russian aggression. Against a Russian army that may be weaker than once thought, Baltic allies might consider defense options that go beyond tripwire postures.

Third, Western militaries may sharply increase their stocks of weapons, which have worked so well in Ukraine – such as portable anti-armor and anti-air – but which have been consumed in larger numbers than expected.

More at https://thehill.com/opinion/international/3528711-what-if-russias-army
-fails-in-ukraine
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 2:56 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said in an interview with a German newspaper published Sunday that the war in Ukraine could last for years.

In the interview with Bild am Sonntag, Stoltenberg cautioned that “nobody knows” exactly how long the war will continue, reiterating that the country needs support for as long as Russia’s invasion persists.

“We must prepare for the fact that it could take years,” Stoltenberg told the newspaper. “We must not let up in supporting Ukraine. Even if the costs are high, not only for military support, but also because of rising energy and food prices. But that is no comparison to the price that the Ukrainians have to pay every day with many lives.”

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3528991-nato-chief-says-ukrai
ne-war-could-last-for-years
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 3:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECIND, stop jerking off online. It's gross.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 3:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Let's get off moms now. I just got off yours.

6ix, are you a necrophiliac? Mom's dead since 2013.



Your mom died when you were just a little boy? You poor thing.

Quote:

As far as Wikipedia, Putin might have killed his mom, which explains his bizarre relationship with Ukraine.



Oh, that's right Arthur. I saw the scene in Joker when you killed your mom.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 5:05 PM

THG


Signym is forgetting to cite her sources again. That's because when she does, she is forced to cite Zero hedge. And that is because, even with all the worlds media to choose from, she can't find anything written to quote from that says anything good about Putin, or Russia.

T



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, June 19, 2022 5:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Signym is forgetting to cite her sources again. That's because when she does, she is forced to cite Zero hedge. And that is because, even with all the worlds media to choose from, she can't find anything written to quote from that says anything good about Putin, or Russia.

T





I'm pretty sure that nobody here is saying anything good about Putin either.

We're just sick of your anti-Russian derangement syndrome.

Get some fucking help.

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE
SIGNYM 11.23 01:45
second 11.23 05:41
second 11.23 05:44
THG 11.23 06:14
SIGNYM 11.23 09:11
SIGNYM 11.23 09:18
second 11.23 10:01

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
Where is the 25th ammendment when you need it?
Sat, November 23, 2024 20:14 - 16 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Sat, November 23, 2024 20:07 - 4758 posts
Australia - unbelievable...
Sat, November 23, 2024 19:59 - 22 posts
Elections; 2024
Sat, November 23, 2024 19:33 - 4796 posts
MAGA movement
Sat, November 23, 2024 19:28 - 12 posts
More Cope: David Brooks and PBS are delusional...
Sat, November 23, 2024 16:32 - 1 posts
List of States/Governments/Politicians Moving to Ban Vaccine Passports
Sat, November 23, 2024 16:27 - 168 posts
Once again... a request for legitimate concerns...
Sat, November 23, 2024 16:22 - 17 posts
What's wrong with conspiracy theories
Sat, November 23, 2024 15:07 - 19 posts
human actions, global climate change, global human solutions
Sat, November 23, 2024 14:38 - 945 posts
Convicted kosher billionaire makes pedophile Roman Polanski blush
Sat, November 23, 2024 13:46 - 34 posts
The worst Judges, Merchants of Law, Rogue Prosecutors, Bad Cops, Criminal Supporting Lawyers, Corrupted District Attorney in USA? and other Banana republic
Sat, November 23, 2024 13:39 - 50 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL