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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Wednesday, October 16, 2024 9:12 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So much cope in so many posts...
Wednesday, October 16, 2024 11:23 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, October 17, 2024 12:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And so much fear mongering. Be afraid. Very afraid...
Thursday, October 17, 2024 2:03 AM
Thursday, October 17, 2024 2:05 AM
Thursday, October 17, 2024 9:55 AM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, THUGR, I did some quick calcs of my own: MediaZona counts appx 75,000 Russian dead. Say 100,000 to account for missed deaths. 5 wounded per 1 death is 500,000 Plus dead is 600,000. That comes pretty close to the figure reported. So I looked at your original link, and I see you've been a victim of deceptive reporting. Quote: The US confirms Russia has lost over half a million soldiers On October 9th, a senior U.S. defense official revealed that Russia has suffered over 600,000 [dead? dead plus wounded?] in Ukraine since Vladimir Putin ordered the full-scale invasion of the country in February 2022. Not 600,000 dead. The story as reported on other sites makes that very clear. And FWIW "wounded" does not mean severely wounded or permanently disabled. It just means "wounded". Many wounded are treated and returned to battle, the number depending on whether field medicine is available and evacuation is prompt. FWIW Russian reports of successes (# of weapons destroyed, # of enemy soldiers killed, ground taken) is reliable. Conservative, even, since bombs and missiles bury a lot under rubble, making it impossible to count the # of dead/ wounded, or # weapons destroyed, and Russian MOD doesn't consider an area taken until it's been cleared, de-mined etc. But the MoD is very, very quiet about losses. As is to be expected. I expect Ukraine to be very quiet about losses too. But Kiev exaggerates its successes to the point of laughability.
Quote: The US confirms Russia has lost over half a million soldiers On October 9th, a senior U.S. defense official revealed that Russia has suffered over 600,000 [dead? dead plus wounded?] in Ukraine since Vladimir Putin ordered the full-scale invasion of the country in February 2022.
Thursday, October 17, 2024 11:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And personal insults!! I'll stop if you will
Thursday, October 17, 2024 12:33 PM
Thursday, October 17, 2024 2:19 PM
Quote: Volodymyr Zelensky presented his "victory plan" , with which he has recently traveled around Europe and the United States. Its main provisions: 1. Inviting Ukraine to NATO even before the end of the war . 2. Continuation of operations on Russian territory and lifting of restrictions on strikes on its territory . Joint shooting down of Russian aircraft with partners, expansion of the use of Ukrainian drones and missiles; access to partners' intelligence. 3. Deployment of a “comprehensive non-nuclear strategic deterrence package” on the territory of Ukraine. [secret on exact nature] 4. Development of Ukraine's strategic-economic potential and strengthening of sanctions against the Russian Federation. Europe and the USA can start extracting and protecting Ukrainian resources, otherwise Russia will seize them . 5. The US contingent in Europe after the war will be replaced by Ukrainian military personnel , using their experience to strengthen the defense of NATO and Europe.
Thursday, October 17, 2024 3:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It's interesting but it's not gonna happen. This is Zelensky's last, desperate plea for help. In it, he offers to open Ukraine's legs wide, ready for rape, if they will defend him from Russia. The message seems to be "Hey, I know you investors [Black Rock, IMF, Bayer, Pfizer, Parexel, Shell etc etc] won't get to pillage Russia like you planned, but you can pillage me!" It is also blackmail: If you don't help, all your investments will go tits-up. It's also -finally, and perhaps mostly- an excuse for internal consumption, because this deal was already proposed to Biden* and the EU, and reportedly already refused. "I did everything I could, it was the west, who promised us 'as long as it takes' and abandoned us". He should have looked at our history of keeping our promises. Or not.
Thursday, October 17, 2024 3:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Volodymyr Zelensky presented his "victory plan" , with which he has recently traveled around Europe and the United States. Its main provisions: 1. Inviting Ukraine to NATO even before the end of the war . He should have looked at our history of keeping our promises. Or not.
Quote: Volodymyr Zelensky presented his "victory plan" , with which he has recently traveled around Europe and the United States. Its main provisions: 1. Inviting Ukraine to NATO even before the end of the war . He should have looked at our history of keeping our promises. Or not.
Thursday, October 17, 2024 4:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Volodymyr Zelensky presented his "victory plan" , with which he has recently traveled around Europe and the United States. Its main provisions: 1. Inviting Ukraine to NATO even before the end of the war . He should have looked at our history of keeping our promises. Or not. THUGR: NATO opens its doors: Putin is furious NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte, said on Thursday that Ukraine would be a NATO member state in the future. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-opens-its-doors-putin-is-furious/ar-AA1sqGxT?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a9da6415c7084524a21ab39e671b55fe&ei=15 Oops
Quote: Volodymyr Zelensky presented his "victory plan" , with which he has recently traveled around Europe and the United States. Its main provisions: 1. Inviting Ukraine to NATO even before the end of the war .
Thursday, October 17, 2024 4:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Volodymyr Zelensky presented his "victory plan" , with which he has recently traveled around Europe and the United States. Its main provisions: 1. Inviting Ukraine to NATO even before the end of the war . He should have looked at our history of keeping our promises. Or not. THUGR: NATO opens its doors: Putin is furious NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte, said on Thursday that Ukraine would be a NATO member state in the future. Oops Stolenberg said the same. But it has to be approved by all NATO members, and chances are near- zero that will happen. Rutte is just blowing hot air.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Volodymyr Zelensky presented his "victory plan" , with which he has recently traveled around Europe and the United States. Its main provisions: 1. Inviting Ukraine to NATO even before the end of the war . He should have looked at our history of keeping our promises. Or not. THUGR: NATO opens its doors: Putin is furious NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte, said on Thursday that Ukraine would be a NATO member state in the future. Oops
Thursday, October 17, 2024 11:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Stolenberg said the same. But it has to be approved by all NATO members, and chances are near- zero that will happen. Rutte is just blowing hot air.
Friday, October 18, 2024 2:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Volodymyr Zelensky presented his "victory plan" , with which he has recently traveled around Europe and the United States. Its main provisions: 1. Inviting Ukraine to NATO even before the end of the war . He should have looked at our history of keeping our promises. Or not. THUGR: NATO opens its doors: Putin is furious NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte, said on Thursday that Ukraine would be a NATO member state in the future. Oops SIGNY::Stolenberg said the same. But it has to be approved by all NATO members, and chances are near- zero that will happen. Rutte is just blowing hot air. THGR: The decenters [sic] couldn't hold out. Which is why Sweden and Finland are now in NATO. That and because the rest of NATO are sick of Hungry.[sic] And Hungry[sic] knows it.
Friday, October 18, 2024 7:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Sweden and Finland weren't about to threaten NATO's existance. Ukraine would. Project Ukraine cost them a ton of money, crippled the EU economies, is flooding the EU with entitled refugees, and drained NATO military stockpiles. It would embroil NATO in a direct war with Russia which none of the militaries can afford. Not even the USA, which is stretched between Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine. Quite possibly the neocons will get their way, but if they do it will eventually doom NATO and the EU.
Friday, October 18, 2024 8:41 AM
Friday, October 18, 2024 9:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Sweden and Finland weren't about to threaten NATO's existance. Ukraine would. Project Ukraine cost them a ton of money, crippled the EU economies, is flooding the EU with entitled refugees, and drained NATO military stockpiles. It would embroil NATO in a direct war with Russia which none of the militaries can afford. Not even the USA, which is stretched between Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine. Quite possibly the neocons will get their way, but if they do it will eventually doom NATO and the EU. SECOND: In Rambling Interview, Trump Blames Zelensky, Not Putin, for Ukraine War The war began when Russia invaded Ukraine, but Donald J. Trump said on a podcast that the Ukrainian president “should never have let that war start.” https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/17/us/politics/trump-zelensky-putin-ukraine-war.html Instantaneous surrender is the Trump/Signym way to prevent war deaths and unnecessary military expense for NATO.
Friday, October 18, 2024 11:04 PM
Saturday, October 19, 2024 8:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Instantaneous surrender is the Trump/Signym way to prevent war deaths and unnecessary military expense for NATO. The war could have been prevented if... We didn't plan on destroying Russia
Quote:Instantaneous surrender is the Trump/Signym way to prevent war deaths and unnecessary military expense for NATO.
Saturday, October 19, 2024 3:40 PM
Sunday, October 20, 2024 8:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: All of your lies will turn to ashes, SECOND. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Sunday, October 20, 2024 9:02 AM
Sunday, October 20, 2024 9:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: All of your lies will turn to ashes, SECOND. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA SECOND: Signym, in your darkest moods,
Sunday, October 20, 2024 10:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: Ukraine's Prosecutor General's Office reported on October 18 that Ukrainian authorities opened an investigation into the execution of a Ukrainian prisoner of war (POW) in Bakhmut Raion in September 2024.[9] Ukraine's Prosecutor General's Office reported that the Donetsk Oblast Prosecutor's Office opened a pre-trial investigation into violations of the laws and customs of war and intentional murder in connection with Russian forces shooting an unarmed and injured Ukrainian POW near the Phenol Plant in Niu York, Donetsk Oblast on September 6, 2024. ISW has recently observed an increase in Russian violations of different aspects of the Geneva Convention on POWs, which prohibits the inhumane treatment and execution of POWs or persons who are clearly rendered hors de combat.[10] https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-19-2024 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Sunday, October 20, 2024 1:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: The thing Jack and comrade signym do not realize is, just like before if Trump were to win, everything you and I have been saying about him and what a second term would look like will be proven true. When it comes to Trump, we have never been wrong.
Sunday, October 20, 2024 5:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, just OOC what are your dark predictions for a Trump second term? I would like to know what worries you most, thanks.
Monday, October 21, 2024 6:12 AM
Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:04 AM
Tuesday, October 22, 2024 3:54 AM
Quote: Russia denies everything, including electing Trump.
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 12:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Russia denies everything, including electing Trump. When you include nonsense like this in your post, you discredit your whole post. You never seem to learn.
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 2:01 PM
Quote:Trump Files Formal Complaint Of 'Election Interference' Against UK Labour Party Wednesday, Oct 23, 2024 - 06:45 AM Former President Donald Trump’s campaign has filed a complaint with the election commission, accusing the UK’s Labour Party of making illegal foreign campaign contributions and interfering in the 2024 presidential elections after its volunteers allegedly traveled to the United States to help campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris.
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 2:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It was nonsense in 2016 and it's still nonsense. Meanwhile Quote:Trump Files Formal Complaint Of 'Election Interference' Against UK Labour Party Wednesday, Oct 23, 2024 - 06:45 AM Former President Donald Trump’s campaign has filed a complaint with the election commission, accusing the UK’s Labour Party of making illegal foreign campaign contributions and interfering in the 2024 presidential elections after its volunteers allegedly traveled to the United States to help campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris. Sophia Patel, head of Labour Party Operations, on X https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaFc6aeWwAAm8iz?format=jpg ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 2:26 PM
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 9:29 PM
Thursday, October 24, 2024 3:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: More bullshit. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Thursday, October 24, 2024 4:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: India, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Brazil, and South Africa opposed the transformation of BRICS into an anti-US coalition The adoption of the Kazan Declaration on the second day of the BRICS summit in Kazan, Republic of Tatarstan on October 23 demonstrated that Russia has not yet secured the international support nor created the alternative security structure blah blah blah
Quote: The Kazan Declaration notably only mentioned Russia's war in Ukraine once.
Thursday, October 24, 2024 8:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Which sounds like the BRICS is basically on Russia's side.
Thursday, October 24, 2024 10:21 AM
Quote: SIGYNY: Which sounds like the BRICS is basically on Russia's side. SECOND: Basically nothing. The Russian military is reportedly coercing Russian conscripts into contract service in the Russian military by issuing enlistment bonuses
Thursday, October 24, 2024 2:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: SIGYNY: Which sounds like the BRICS is basically on Russia's side. SECOND: Basically nothing. The Russian military is reportedly coercing Russian conscripts into contract service in the Russian military by issuing enlistment bonuses More word salad ftom SECOND. Yanno, SECOND, following your intro with a complete non sequitor, as you often do, kinda guarantees that nobody will read past that mental break. At least, I don't. It doesn't make your posts interesting, it just makes you look stupid, or crazy, or both. - The Editor ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Thursday, October 24, 2024 3:01 PM
Quote: SIGYNY: Which sounds like the BRICS is basically on Russia's side. SECOND: Basically nothing. [skip!] The Russian military is reportedly coercing Russian conscripts into contract service in the Russian military by issuing enlistment bonuses SIGNY: More word salad from SECOND. SECOND: Russia sends people to war who DID NOT AGEE TO FIGHT in Ukraine. It is really that simple, Signym.
Quote: SIGYNY: Which sounds like the BRICS is basically on Russia's side. SECOND: Basically nothing. *sound of phonograph needle sliding over vinyl* The Russian military ....
Quote: About 51,000 Ukrainians Have Deserted Armed Forces This Year
Thursday, October 24, 2024 7:54 PM
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Friday, October 25, 2024 7:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And now for some REAL WORLD in RWE ...
Friday, October 25, 2024 8:32 PM
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