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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Friday, June 27, 2025 6:54 AM

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Russia will effectively ban Ukrainian-language education in schools in occupied Ukraine starting on September 1. The Russian Ministry of Education published a draft order on June 23 detailing plans to exclude Ukrainian-language education from the Russian federal basic general education program blocks at all educational levels starting on September 1, 2025.[1] The Ministry of Education claimed that they will be excluding Ukrainian-language education “in connection with the changed geopolitical situation in the world,” but that students will retain the possibility to study Ukrainian in some extracurricular programs.[2] The Russian Ministry of Education previously reported in the 2023-2024 school year that Ukrainian was taught on a “mandatory” basis in occupied Zaporizhia and Kherson oblasts and “at the request of parents” in occupied Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, occupied Crimea, and Russia’s Bashkortostan Republic.[3] The draft order will also terminate a course on Ukrainian literature.[4] The Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) condemned the draft order on June 24 as a “manifestation of Moscow’s genocidal policy” towards occupied Ukraine.[5]

Russian authorities have severely limited access to Ukrainian language education as part of their occupation policy since 2014.[6] In occupied Crimea, for example, only 214 students received Ukrainian language education in the 2020/2021 academic year, suggesting that constraints against the Ukrainian language were already in place prior to the full-scale invasion.[7] The Donetsk and Luhansk people’s republics occupation administrations similarly cracked down on Ukrainian language and Ukrainian history curricula in schools in occupied Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts starting in 2014.[8] The Russian Ministry of Education’s claim that Ukrainian language instruction was “mandatory” in occupied Kherson and Zaporizhia oblasts over the past few years directly contradicts statements made by Zaporizhia Oblast occupation officials, which reveal existing constraints on the availability of Ukrainian language instruction. Zaporizhia Oblast occupation Minister of Education and Science Elena Shapurova announced in March 2023 that schools in occupied Zaporizhia Oblast would abolish mandatory Ukrainian language education by the start of the 2023-2024 school year.[9] Zaporizhia Oblast occupation head Yevgeny Balitsky stated in March 2023 that students in occupied Zaporizhia Oblast had the “option” to study Ukrainian for a maximum of three hours a week, but that Russian language instruction was the default.[10] ISW assessed at the time that Russian occupation authorities would likely use the semblance of choice in selecting Ukrainian language education to identify individuals who partook in the ostensibly pro-Ukrainian activity of learning Ukrainian, which Russian authorities could later use as a repressive tool against identified pro-Ukrainian individuals.[11] Further legal limits on Ukrainian language education will further Russify occupied areas, setting multigenerational conditions that will allow the Kremlin to claim that occupied Ukraine is part of Russia on a linguistic basis.[12]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-occupation-updat
e-june-26-2025


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Friday, June 27, 2025 12:53 PM

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Fuck Ukraine.

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Friday, June 27, 2025 1:41 PM

SIGNYM

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Good for Russia! That's what Kiev did, in reverse.
Fuck Ukraine.

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Friday, June 27, 2025 1:41 PM

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Saturday, June 28, 2025 6:57 AM

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Did you get overly excited to post your falsehoods and foolish opinions? Where True and False mean the opposite of the dictionary definition?

Putin claims that the war is not a heavy economic burden for Russia. Russia is not spending much in 2025 and will spend even less next year. Hint, he is lying:

The Kremlin continues to downplay the social and economic costs of Russia's war in Ukraine and inflated military spending. Russian President Vladimir Putin told journalists on June 27, following the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) summit in Minsk, that sanctions cannot hurt Russia’s economy and that Russia's economic indicators are “satisfactory.”[1] Putin acknowledged that Russia’s economy is still contending with high inflation and that Russia’s economic growth in 2025 will be “much more modest to combat inflation.” Putin also claimed that Russia’s military budget is currently 6.3 percent of its GDP, or 13.5 trillion rubles (roughly $172 billion), and that Russia plans to steadily decrease defense spending beginning in 2026. Russia notably increased its defense budget by 25 percent between the 2024 and 2025 federal budgets and has been increasing its investments in Russia's defense industry throughout 2025.[2]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-27-2025


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Saturday, June 28, 2025 1:54 PM

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Zelenskyy responds to Pope's message about Ukraine's suffering

By Mariya Yemets, Roman Petrenko — Saturday, 28 June 2025, 18:40

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/06/28/7519246/

Quote from Pope Leo XIV: "I express my closeness to martyred Ukraine – to the children, the young people, the elderly, and especially to families who mourn their loved ones. I share your sorrow for the prisoners and victims of this senseless war."

Background:

• The Vatican previously reported that Pope Leo XIV asked Russian leader Vladimir Putin to make "a gesture that would favour peace" during their first conversation in early June.

• The Pope proposed the Vatican as a venue for negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, an idea supported by Kyiv, European countries and the United States, but Moscow refused.

The Pope expressed no sympathy for Russians since suffering is what they deserve for their actions.

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Saturday, June 28, 2025 2:26 PM

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Vladimir Solovyov urges strikes against Europe


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Sunday, June 29, 2025 1:37 AM

SIGNYM

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SECOND: Did you get overly excited to post your falsehoods and foolish opinions?




Wow, now THAT'S a lackluster insult!

Where's the verve?

Don't tell me that you've gotten bored already!

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Sunday, June 29, 2025 6:48 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SECOND: Did you get overly excited to post your falsehoods and foolish opinions?




Wow, now THAT'S a lackluster insult!

Where's the verve?

Don't tell me that you've gotten bored already!

Signym, did it ever cross your mind to ask why Russia is struggling? Not just in Ukraine, but in everything? You'd have to compare what is possible from military history to what Russia did. You have to compare what Western European economies accomplished to what Russia did. You'd have to do that comparison honestly, which I think is not one of your characteristics, nor one of the Russians.

Russia is just not very good at fighting wars

Putin, so devoted to the legacy of the Great Patriotic War, has learned nothing

By Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, James Holland | 29 June 2025 7:58am BST
James Holland is a historian. Colonel Hamish de Bretton Gordon served in the Royal Tank Regiment

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/29/russia-army-corrupt-ineffi
cient-failure-ukraine-history
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Recently, Russian casualties climbed through the one million mark after three and a half years of Putin’s “special military operation”, originally expected to last three days. For an army of such size in manpower and equipment this seems a remarkable price to pay for less than a fifth of Ukrainian territory, fighting against an army which was minuscule in comparison on the day of the illegal invasion – 24th Feb 22.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/17/russian-army-overtak
e-us-as-worlds-second-largest
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What are the reasons for this ineptitude, and is this purely a problem of the modern Russian army – or a reflection of systemic failures across the centuries? A soldier and a historian will try to answer these questions today.

When it comes down to it, the Russian military has always relied on mass and brutality. It has aspired historically to ambitious intellectual underpinnings for its military power but this has tended to falter on first contact with reality. In the case of the Red Army of the 1920s and 30s, much radical military thinking was lost in Stalin’s purges. The only army which gained any valuable insights into the future of war from the experimental exercises conducted in the USSR during that time was the Wehrmacht. Today in the 2020s, the much vaunted “Gerasimov Doctrine” (aka “hybrid warfare”) failed when confronted with a citizen army determined to resist a war of unprovoked aggression waged against its independent sovereign state.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/13/putin-is-escalating-his-hy
brid-warfare
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Over the last week or two we’ve been reconsidering the nature of the Soviet victory in World War II, but also the nature of the fighting during that conflict and, more broadly, Russia’s history of warfare since the turn of the twentieth century. It’s fair to say, the Second World War aside, Russia’s wars make for pretty sorry reading – if you’re Russian. Russia suffered an ignominious defeat at the hands of Japan in 1905, one which in large part led to the 1905 Russian revolution. Imperial Russia’s part in the subsequent First World War was a catastrophe which led to the loss of 5.5 million casualties, battlefield defeat and the overthrow of the Tsarist regime; the 1917 Treaty of Brest-Litovsk also saw Russia ceding large amounts of territory to Germany and its allies.

There is a common theme here: the leadership seemingly unconcerned by huge casualties among the rank and file, and when you are not concerned with casualties the principles of war seem to go out of the window.

Which leads to Ukraine. Despite having one of the largest militaries in the world, and despite the assumption that Ukraine could be overrun in a matter of days, over three years on Russian forces have taken barely 20 per cent of the country, Russia has been invaded in turn and losses have included not only the one million casualties – including over 500,000 dead – but more than 10,000 tanks, 21,500 armoured fighting vehicles, 41,000 other vehicles, 24,500 artillery pieces and 370 aircraft including a fair wedge of the strategic nuclear bomber fleet.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/01/bridge-collapses-ont
o-train-russia
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To put this in some perspective, 10,000 tank losses is a figure greater than the most heavily produced German tank of the entire Second World War.

Clearly, the key feature of almost all these wars is barely comprehensible levels of casualties. Anyone reading this catalogue of death and destruction – with the accompanying high proportion of defeats – could be forgiven for thinking that Russia is simply not very good at fighting wars. And bluntly, they’d be right.

While the Western Allies have very sensibly harnessed technology, global reach, mechanization and logistical deftness to limit the number of men risking their lives at the coal face of war, the Red Army continued its policy of barely imaginable profligacy. The Allies adopted a policy of “steel not flesh” as far as they possibly could; the Soviet Union and now the Russian Federation, on the other hand, pursued steel in tandem with immense amounts of flesh and suffered terrible consequences.

And this leads to the question of blood being spilled. It is absolutely the case that historically the Red Army lost considerably more lives than the Western Allies or even the Germans they were defeating, but this doesn’t mean that the Red Army was taking on the greatest proportion of fighting. On the contrary, the Western Allies were fighting a truly global war on land, in the air and at sea, and overall taking on a far greater proportion of the Axis forces. Until the final months of the war against Japan, the Soviet Union was only fighting on the Eastern Front – and spectacularly inefficiently too.

To be an effective fighting force able to manoeuvre and outpace the enemy you need to train and train hard. It takes over a year of individual and collective training to take a British tank regiment and weld it together with infantry, artillery and now drones and other things into a combined arms battle group which is able to deliver shock action against the enemy.
(Kyiv’s troops are combining Western-donated weapons with Soviet-style tactics, in a misstep which has led to a significant amount of squandered Nato weaponry)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/16/nato-ukraine-soviet-
battlefield-tactics-squandered-weapons
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New Russian conscripts are given just a few days training before being thrown into the meat grinder, and some cannot even clean their rifles. Even new tank crews are only afforded a few weeks training and no collective training with other tanks – let alone other arms. Hence the massive levels of attrition and the reason why watchers see so many tanks out of control with “disco head” – where the commander becomes totally disorientated by all that is going on around him, typically a precursor to the tank’s destruction.

Russian military command structure tends to be rigid and heavily reliant on blind obedience. This has to be enforced by draconian discipline and tends to see senior officers getting involved in low-level battle drills which would in the British army be managed by junior leaders. Initiative is not just discouraged, it is punished.

Routine use is made of brutal methods reminiscent of the 19th century and WWI - “shtrafbatty” and “zagranotryady”. This means junior officers and non-commissioned officers (equivalent to sergeants and warrant officers in our army) following up behind assault units to shoot would-be stragglers and deserters. The training culture is equally brutal, with “dedovshchina” (the western equivalent term “hazing” or just plain bullying doesn’t even begin to capture the savagery of this) an intrinsic element of the system. The hatred this engenders between senior and junior Russian soldiers is intense. It should come as no great surprise that war crimes are so prevalent wherever the Russian army sets foot.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/23/we-have-only-scratched-the
-surface-of-putins-war-crimes
/

Corruption is endemic and rampant even in peacetime. Petrol, ammunition, rations, weapons, uniforms and even armoured vehicles are sold off. Soldiers are used by officers (and the state) as slave labour – to build officers’ private dachas or to bring in the harvest, just as they did in Tsarist and Soviet times.

We have, in recent decades, been too respectful of the Red Army and its modern successor. The Russian victory in the Second World War was complete but it should not have been so expensive in lives. The Red Army was very much the product of the nation it was created to defend: one that was cruel and corrupt, and which cared not a jot for the lives of the men – and women – being flung into the fire. It was, for the most part, sickeningly incompetent, just as it still is to this day.

Putin, so devoted to the legacy of the Great Patriotic War, has learned nothing.

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Sunday, June 29, 2025 6:47 PM

SIGNYM

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SECOND, did you ever wonder why India is struggling?

Libya?

Rwanda?

Of course not! Your brain, with its laser- like focus on Russia!Trump!, can't possibly expand to... well, anything, really.

PS: Russia isn't struggling.


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Sunday, June 29, 2025 7:46 PM

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SECOND, did you ever wonder why India is struggling?

Libya?

Rwanda?

Of course not! Your brain, with its laser- like focus on Russia!Trump!, can't possibly expand to... well, anything, really.

PS: Russia isn't struggling.

I focus on Trumptards because half the population of Texas are Trumptards, who are not performing as well as their non-Trumptard neighbors. Since the Trumptards and the non-Trumptards live side-by-side in Harris County, it is easy to see who is screwing up their own lives, but Trumptards absolutely refuse to acknowledge that they are screw-ups. Instead, it's the government's fault, despite it being obvious it is the Trumptard's fault.

Oh, and as far as Russia, a comparison of nations shows that Russians are huge screw-ups.
https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/

If you don't like comparing nations because the larger countries appear to be better run and more prosperous than smaller countries, then compare citizens. GDP per Capita shows that Russians are screwed up. Unfortunately, the tabulations don't separate per Capita who are Trumptards from those who are Anti-Trumptard. The Trumptards drag the United States downward:

https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/

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Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:17 PM

SIGNYM

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SECOND is a screw up:

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IMF ranks Russia as world’s fourth-largest economy by purchasing power

https://www.mitrade.com/insights/news/live-news/article-3-431447-20241
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