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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Monday, July 29, 2024 7:05 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But since you seem to equate military and economic success with God's favor, what do you think of Ukraine's catastrophic losses? And what will you think when Ukraine loses?

THUGR:
Wow you're delusional. Ukraine's navy is destroying Russia's navy. Oh wait, Ukraine doesn't have a navy. Yet still, it is winning the battle of the Black Sea. And leaders around the world have commented again and again how it turns out, Russia does not know how to fight.

Russia has been trying to win since 2014 you stupid twit. They've thrown everything they have and could borrow against Ukraine since Feb. 2022, and still, they can't win.

Russia has no future comrade and I'm loving the fact that America is playing a major role in making that iron clad. Why is that? Because of your behavior. Russia has earned every negative thing that happens to it going forward.

Putin did accomplish one thing comrade. NATO now has two new powerhouse countries in its ranks. And comrade, Europe is rearming at an alarming rate. Something we in the west have been trying to get them to do for decades.

So, thank you Putin. Thank you so much.



One of us is delusional, and I don't think it's me.

Still, the results will speak for themselves.

The question is, if Russia wins, will you man up and admit you were wrong? Or will you qibble endlessly?






Wrong about what? I haven't posted anything that wasn't backed up by reputable news sources. Yes, some of the videos offer opinions, but most are from professional diplomats, generals and world leaders to name a few.

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Monday, July 29, 2024 7:18 PM

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Just watch the preview. It'll blow your mind comrade.

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Monday, July 29, 2024 8:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.




Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But since you seem to equate military and economic success with God's favor, what do you think of Ukraine's catastrophic losses? And what will you think when Ukraine loses?

THUGR:
Wow you're delusional. Ukraine's navy is destroying Russia's navy. Oh wait, Ukraine doesn't have a navy. Yet still, it is winning the battle of the Black Sea. And leaders around the world have commented again and again how it turns out, Russia does not know how to fight.
Russia has been trying to win since 2014 you stupid twit. They've thrown everything they have and could borrow against Ukraine since Feb. 2022, and still, they can't win.
Russia has no future comrade and I'm loving the fact that America is playing a major role in making that iron clad. Why is that? Because of your behavior. Russia has earned every negative thing that happens to it going forward.
Putin did accomplish one thing comrade. NATO now has two new powerhouse countries in its ranks. And comrade, Europe is rearming at an alarming rate. Something we in the west have been trying to get them to do for decades.
So, thank you Putin. Thank you so much.


SIGNY:
One of us is delusional, and I don't think it's me.
Still, the results will speak for themselves.
The question is, if Russia wins, will you man up and admit you were wrong? Or will you qibble endlessly?

THUGR:
Wrong about what? I haven't posted anything that wasn't backed up by reputable news sources. Yes, some of the videos offer opinions, but most are from professional diplomats, generals and world leaders to name a few.



Unbelievable.


What happens if your "reputable news sources“ are wrong?
What happens then?




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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But since you seem to equate military and economic success with God's favor, what do you think of Ukraine's catastrophic losses? And what will you think when Ukraine loses?

THUGR:
Wow you're delusional. Ukraine's navy is destroying Russia's navy. Oh wait, Ukraine doesn't have a navy. Yet still, it is winning the battle of the Black Sea. And leaders around the world have commented again and again how it turns out, Russia does not know how to fight.

Russia has been trying to win since 2014 you stupid twit. They've thrown everything they have and could borrow against Ukraine since Feb. 2022, and still, they can't win.

Russia has no future comrade and I'm loving the fact that America is playing a major role in making that iron clad. Why is that? Because of your behavior. Russia has earned every negative thing that happens to it going forward.

Putin did accomplish one thing comrade. NATO now has two new powerhouse countries in its ranks. And comrade, Europe is rearming at an alarming rate. Something we in the west have been trying to get them to do for decades.

So, thank you Putin. Thank you so much.



One of us is delusional, and I don't think it's me.

Still, the results will speak for themselves.

The question is, if Russia wins, will you man up and admit you were wrong? Or will you qibble endlessly?

When did the Nazi tanks arrive in Paris? June 1940. I'd guess the war is over if I didn't have the wiki. Hitler arrives in Paris by June 28, 1940. He now owned the Eiffel Tower, and the Americans are never coming to save anybody because Americans are all like 6ixStringJack's ancestor who wrote "Fuck France" on the wall of a public toilet somewhere in the heartland of America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_France
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/hitler-takes-a-tour-of-par
is


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Tuesday, July 30, 2024 6:17 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Apparently, somebody cares about Ukraine. Obviously not Trump, who got impeached for trying to screw Ukraine:

The US Department of Defense (DoD) announced on July 29 the provision of security assistance to Ukraine worth $200 million from the authorization of a Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA) package and an additional package worth $1.5 billion in Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) funds.[1] The DoD stated that the PDA package will include air defense interceptors, munitions for rocket and artillery systems, and anti-tank weapons. The DoD reported that the USAI package includes munitions for National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS), short- and medium-range air defense munitions, RIM-7 air defense missiles, ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles, Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems, 155mm and 105mm shells, 120mm mortar rounds, and other munitions and equipment. The DoD noted that this is the Biden administration's 20th USAI package and 62nd tranche of equipment provided to Ukraine since August 2021.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-july-29-2024


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Tuesday, July 30, 2024 6:30 AM

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July 29, 2024

War in Ukraine: Wide Partisan Differences on U.S. Responsibility and Support

With the conflict in Ukraine now in its third year, Republicans and Democrats continue to differ over U.S. policy toward the war-torn country.

A 62% majority of Republicans say the United States does not have a responsibility to help Ukraine defend itself from Russia’s invasion.

Americans overall are evenly divided on whether the U.S. has a responsibility to help Ukraine (48% say it does, 49% say it does not).

About two-thirds of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents (63%) say the U.S. has this responsibility.

Only about a third of Republicans and Republican leaners (36%) say the same.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/07/29/war-in-ukraine-wide-pa
rtisan-differences-on-u-s-responsibility-and-support
/

I know these Trumptards. They don't even look after themselves responsibly or carefully. (How much tobacco have you smoked this month, 6ix?) Why would they care about Ukraine? Why would they act responsibly for that one particular country when they are irresponsible people at work, assuming they actually do some work while at work, rather than faking it when no one is checking?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2024 7:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SECOND:
When did the Nazi tanks arrive in Paris? June 1940. I'd guess the war is over if I didn't have the wiki. Hitler arrives in Paris by June 28, 1940. He now owned the Eiffel Tower, and the Americans are never coming to save anybody because Americans are all like 6ixStringJack's ancestor who wrote "Fuck France" on the wall of a public toilet somewhere in the heartland of America.



What are you saying?
That Putin is Hitler and France is Ukraine?
Or are you saying a war is never truly lost?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2024 2:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I see THUGR is spamming the board again.

Maybe he's trying to distract from THIS:

Quote:

Russia Poised To Capture All Of Donetsk After Several Breakthroughs On Weakened Ukraine Lines
Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 - 10:05 AM



Despite a recent influx of more Western weapons, including some of the first US-made F-16 fighter jets having arrived in Kiev, Russian forces have made significant gains in the Donbas, specifically in the region west of Avidiivka, several media outlets have reported.

Currently, Ukrainian troops are being encircled in the Pokrovsk direction, war maps show. Russia has further seized the entire Novoselivka Persha settlement, after a string of tactical successes over months of the new Kharkiv offensive.
Illustrative: Ukrainian troops patrolling, Via AFP

The Washington Post in fresh reporting documents [1] that "The reinvasion of the Kharkiv region, while yielding limited gains, nonetheless diverted Ukrainian resources. Oleksandr, 30, a battalion commander of the 47th brigade, fighting near Ocheretyne, said that Ukrainian forces are struggling and that Putin’s prize increasingly seems within Russia’s reach."

The same Ukrainian commander told the outlet, "This strategy is clever: You try to concentrate the strength of your enemy in one direction and then distract them at another." He added of Russian forces, "Their first objective is to destroy us" and "the second is to push us so that they can get more leverage for peace talks and get more from us. They are almost at the point of capturing the Donetsk region."

WaPo admits that this soon may see the Zelensky forced to negotiate or else quickly lose more territory as the Russians eye capturing the key transit point of the city of Pokrovsk. The publication also underscores a somewhat distracted Washington, referencing "a shortage of soldiers and as election turmoil in the United States." ISW [2]

Other major publications like The New York Times have confirmed a similar trend: Russia is identifying weakened and badly organized Ukrainian units to punch through front lines at a rapid pace, thus exploiting the ongoing severe manpower problems.

"Russian forces are now only a dozen miles from Pokrovsk after Moscow’s troops pushed along a railway line and advanced about three miles toward the city, according to open-source maps [3] of the battlefield based on combat footage and satellite imagery," writes NYT. [4] "The Russian progress contrasts sharply with the slow but steady gains that Moscow had made so far this year in the Donetsk region, sometimes measured in only a few hundred yards a week."

"Military analysts say the swift gains reflect Moscow’s improved ability to exploit cracks in Ukrainian defensive lines, which have been thinned by manpower shortages and strained by relentless Russian attacks along a more than 600-mile front," the report continues.

A key question remains: even should Zelensky desire to negotiate with Moscow at this point, will he be able to?

Again, despite efforts of Western supporters to rush new weapons systems to Kiev, it's ultimately the manpower problem in the face of far superior Russian numbers that's making all the difference.

As of Monday, the German government announced it has sent Ukraine eight more Leopard 1 A5 tanks, ammunition, anti-aircraft guns, and other equipment.




[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/russia-adapting-tactics-advances-
in-donetsk-and-takes-more-ukrainian-land/ar-BB1qIuCEh


[2] NEW: Russian forces recently made confirmed advances NE of Kharkiv City in Vovchansk, near Avdiivka, and SW of Donetsk City.
https://x.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1818090625448734897

[3] https://deepstatemap.live/en#11/48.2386265/37.4699027

[4] Russia Punches Through Weakened Lines in Eastern Ukraine
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/28/world/europe/ukraine-russia-battle-
gains.html


I know how much THUGR relies on his "reputable sources", so I included their links.


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Tuesday, July 30, 2024 6:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SECOND:
When did the Nazi tanks arrive in Paris? June 1940. I'd guess the war is over if I didn't have the wiki. Hitler arrives in Paris by June 28, 1940. He now owned the Eiffel Tower, and the Americans are never coming to save anybody because Americans are all like 6ixStringJack's ancestor who wrote "Fuck France" on the wall of a public toilet somewhere in the heartland of America.



What are you saying?
That Putin is Hitler and France is Ukraine?
Or are you saying a war is never truly lost?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

Did you miss the plot twist in WWII? France is conquered by Hitler. Neither Churchill nor Charles De Gaul will ever, all by themselves, be able to free France even if some day soon France and the UK has H-bombs just like America will. But then Hitler declares war on America. That is the signal for America to crush the Nazis like they are bugs, once the surrender monkeys of the Republican Party are vanquished by Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who bravely fought the GOP for Social Security and dies fighting Nazis, giving everything for victory. Such a glorious and completely unexpected turn of events for Hitler. The same could happen to Putin that happened to Hitler when somebody other than just Ukrainians fight Russians. Otherwise it is like expecting the French and British, alone, to rise up and conquer Hitler.

Almost forgot but the GOP spent the entire war blaming FDR for Pearl Harbor. So very in character for the Paleo-Trumptards.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2024 11:26 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


You must be writing "alternate universe" scifi.
Right?

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Wednesday, July 31, 2024 6:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You must be writing "alternate universe" scifi.
Right?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

Here is some alternate history: Wendell Willkie, Republican, wins election in 1940 because Roosevelt dies from stroke a month before the election rather than in 1945, when he is 63. President Willkie does not request a declaration of war against Germany because foreign wars are a waste of money, just like the New Deal is a waste. Wilkie does not start the secret Manhattan Project because it is a waste of money on a science project. France is never liberated from the Nazis because Charles De Gaul and Churchill do not have the ammo or the men to do it. Willkie is absolutely certain that sending ammo to free France is a waste of money. Instead, Willkie campaigns for a repeal of Amendment 16, which had legalized income taxes in 1913.

If Trump were elected President in 2020, Ukraine would have already been conquered because Trump, while not President, did his best to stop ammo being sent to Ukraine. His reason? Waste of money.

FDR's death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt#Final_months_and_d
eath


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Russian officials and Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) representatives are advocating for the Kremlin to codify a state ideology premised on the idea that the sovereign Ukrainian state should not exist, into Russian federal law. The Second All-Russian Forum of the "Russian World" (Russkiy Mir) World Russian People's Council occurred in occupied Sevastopol, Crimea, on July 29.[38] The main objective of the forum was to "discuss and develop mechanisms for the political, scientific, and legal recognition and consolidation of the doctrine of the trinity of the Russian people."[39] Russian officials, including Russian President Vladimir Putin and Investigative Committee Head Alexander Bastrykin, have frequently invoked the "trinity doctrine," or the ideological concept suggesting that Russians, Belarusians, and Ukrainians are a "triune" and forcibly separated people, to make the claim that Ukrainians are not a sovereign people, with the implication that Ukraine has no right to be a sovereign state.[40] The Second All-Russian Forum sought to codify this ideology and submitted a resolution and draft regulatory acts entitled "On the Trinity of the Russian People" and "On the Fundamentals of the State Policy of the Russian Federation for the Protection, Preservation, and Strengthening of the Trinity of Russian People" to Russian legislative and executive bodies following the forum. These draft laws seek to make real the fallacy that Ukraine and its people are ideologically inextricable from Russia and privilege the idea of "reunification" of Ukrainians with Russia as the core of the ideology supporting Russia's occupation of Ukraine. If these laws should pass, they may allow Russian authorities an even more extensive legal framework on which to legislate the occupation of Ukraine by codifying the definition of Ukrainians living in occupied Ukraine as "Russians" who must be reunited with their "homeland." Codifying an ideology into Russian law would legally require an amendment to the Russian Constitution, as Article 13 forbids Russia from proclaiming a state ideology and commits the Russian state to recognizing ideological diversity.[41]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-july-30-2024


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Periodic and pulsating Russian mechanized assaults likely represent the extent of Russia's current offensive capacity, and Russia is unlikely to mount a distinct new summer offensive operation due to material and manpower constraints.

The Russian military command may assess that these periodic, pulsating mechanized assaults are either sufficient to accomplish the command's revised, more limited objectives for the summer of 2024 or that these assaults are the extent of Russian forces' current capabilities. Western media, citing unspecified Ukrainian sources, reported in December 2023 and January 2024 that Russian forces planned to seize the remaining territory of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaporizhia oblasts during a large-scale offensive operation in the summer of 2024, but Russian forces likely revised those plans following the passage of US military assistance to Ukraine in April 2024.[10] The Kremlin, including Russian President Vladimir Putin, has also previously tried to oversell the seizure of tiny frontline settlements west of Avdiivka as major battlefield victories for informational purposes.[11] The Russian military command may intend to present limited tactical advances in western Donetsk Oblast (an area of Ukraine whose geography the average Russian has no familiarity with), including cutting the Vuhledar-Kostyantynivka highway, as a major victory to the Russian people. The Russian military command may also be trying to push degraded Russian forces in the area to advance as far as possible before their combat capabilities culminate, regardless of the losses those forces take in the process.

The Russian military command's willingness to accept costly armored vehicle losses without conducting a large-scale, multi-directional offensive operation or making operationally significant advances in western Donetsk Oblast will likely burden the Russian military in the long-term.[12]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-july-30-2024


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Wednesday, July 31, 2024 10:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I see THUGR is spamming the board again.

Maybe he's trying to distract from THIS:

Quote:

Russia Poised To Capture All Of Donetsk After Several Breakthroughs On Weakened Ukraine Lines
Tuesday, Jul 30, 2024 - 10:05 AM

Despite a recent influx of more Western weapons, including some of the first US-made F-16 fighter jets having arrived in Kiev, Russian forces have made significant gains in the Donbas, specifically in the region west of Avidiivka, several media outlets have reported.

Currently, Ukrainian troops are being encircled in the Pokrovsk direction, war maps show. Russia has further seized the entire Novoselivka Persha settlement, after a string of tactical successes over months of the new Kharkiv offensive.
Illustrative: Ukrainian troops patrolling, Via AFP

The Washington Post in fresh reporting documents [1] that "The reinvasion of the Kharkiv region, while yielding limited gains, nonetheless diverted Ukrainian resources. Oleksandr, 30, a battalion commander of the 47th brigade, fighting near Ocheretyne, said that Ukrainian forces are struggling and that Putin’s prize increasingly seems within Russia’s reach."

The same Ukrainian commander told the outlet, "This strategy is clever: You try to concentrate the strength of your enemy in one direction and then distract them at another." He added of Russian forces, "Their first objective is to destroy us" and "the second is to push us so that they can get more leverage for peace talks and get more from us. They are almost at the point of capturing the Donetsk region."

WaPo admits that this soon may see the Zelensky forced to negotiate or else quickly lose more territory as the Russians eye capturing the key transit point of the city of Pokrovsk. The publication also underscores a somewhat distracted Washington, referencing "a shortage of soldiers and as election turmoil in the United States." ISW [2]

Other major publications like The New York Times have confirmed a similar trend: Russia is identifying weakened and badly organized Ukrainian units to punch through front lines at a rapid pace, thus exploiting the ongoing severe manpower problems.

"Russian forces are now only a dozen miles from Pokrovsk after Moscow’s troops pushed along a railway line and advanced about three miles toward the city, according to open-source maps [3] of the battlefield based on combat footage and satellite imagery," writes NYT. [4] "The Russian progress contrasts sharply with the slow but steady gains that Moscow had made so far this year in the Donetsk region, sometimes measured in only a few hundred yards a week."

"Military analysts say the swift gains reflect Moscow’s improved ability to exploit cracks in Ukrainian defensive lines, which have been thinned by manpower shortages and strained by relentless Russian attacks along a more than 600-mile front," the report continues.

A key question remains: even should Zelensky desire to negotiate with Moscow at this point, will he be able to?

Again, despite efforts of Western supporters to rush new weapons systems to Kiev, it's ultimately the manpower problem in the face of far superior Russian numbers that's making all the difference.

As of Monday, the German government announced it has sent Ukraine eight more Leopard 1 A5 tanks, ammunition, anti-aircraft guns, and other equipment.




[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/russia-adapting-tactics-advances-
in-donetsk-and-takes-more-ukrainian-land/ar-BB1qIuCEh


[2] NEW: Russian forces recently made confirmed advances NE of Kharkiv City in Vovchansk, near Avdiivka, and SW of Donetsk City.
https://x.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1818090625448734897

[3] https://deepstatemap.live/en#11/48.2386265/37.4699027

[4] Russia Punches Through Weakened Lines in Eastern Ukraine
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/28/world/europe/ukraine-russia-battle-
gains.html


I know how much THUGR relies on his "reputable sources", so I included their links.








1. Funny, your MSN link goes to, wait for it, the MSN news page. Not an article concerning Russian advancements.

2. Your second link talks about some Russian advancements along with Ukrainian drone strikes. Nothing major.

3. This link is just a map that has arrows showing where things are happening. I see no major advancements.

4. This NY Times link reports how Russia is probing Ukrainian lines where troop levels are thin and gaining some ground. Ground the Ukrainians will take back. They always do.

Russia losses according to this source; https://combat.fyi/?day=latest Total and daily combat losses of Russia in Ukraine are staggering. Because Russia can’t fight they just throw an overwhelming amount of equipment and personal at areas in the line. This causes tremendous amounts of losses for the Russians. Where talking 5 or 6 Russians for every 1 Ukrainian. Not to mention lost Russian materials.

Ukraine is about to shut down the only two access points left that allow the Russians to move supplies. The Crimean Bridge, and a rail head north of Crimea. After that it’s trucks only and the pace of moving supplies will be diminished greatly. Russian lines will collapse. And let's not forget, F16's are arriving any day now. They are what Ukraine is waiting for. They will use them to take out the supply lines.

tick tock

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Wednesday, July 31, 2024 1:50 PM

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Your soy boys, cat ladies and DEI hires at the New York Times don't share your optimism today, Ted-Bot. Maybe this is what all the Kamala gaslighting over the last week was trying to mask from you.


NEW YORK TIMES: As War Gets Bleaker, More Ukrainians Appear Open to a Peace Deal

Most Ukrainians still oppose ceding any territory to Russia. But polls and recent remarks by the country’s leaders highlight a palpable shift in the conversation around peace talks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/31/world/europe/ukraine-russia-peace-m
ood.html


Quote:

“So many people died, and what for?” Ms. Ivashchenko said. “But I want everything to be finished, at least somehow, because I have a son, and I don’t want him to grow up in such a wartime as now.”

In Ukraine, the third year of the war is grueling: The Russians are inching forward every day, and Ukraine has been unable to mount a successful counteroffensive since 2022. The country has been beset by frequent power outages and a growing death toll.

...

Ongoing support from the West seems unpredictable, especially if Donald J. Trump regains the White House in November. Germany will cut military aid for Ukraine in half if its proposed budget for 2025 is adopted; that is seen as a bellwether for Western commitment, especially after the six-month delay in the United States for a military-aid package delivered this spring.

International pressure is building on Ukraine and Russia to come to some kind of agreement, although experts agree neither side is ready. The barriers to any settlement are huge: Russia occupies about 18 percent of Ukrainian territory, including Crimea, according to DeepState, an analytical group with close ties to Ukraine’s army.



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Your soy boys, cat ladies and DEI hires at the New York Times don't share your optimism today, Ted-Bot. Maybe this is what all the Kamala gaslighting over the last week was trying to mask from you.


NEW YORK TIMES: As War Gets Bleaker, More Ukrainians Appear Open to a Peace Deal

Did you see the Steven Spielberg movie Lincoln? President Lincoln's wife, Mary, could not understand why her husband fought the Confederates. Lincoln called her crazy for not seeing the obvious need for the war. Mary took offense. Lincoln apologized before Mary had an immediate mental breakdown, but Lincoln was correct. Mary was crazy. And stupid. And selfish. And emotionally extremely immature. But then, aren't most people crazy, stupid, selfish, and emotionally immature, even as they prance around pantomiming adult behavior? Less than half the "adults" have grown into real adults. That is why countries, including Ukraine, are malfunctioning. People refuse to grow into functioning adults like Lincoln.

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Volodymyr Zelenskiy has said Russian forces have made gains in eastern Ukraine because Kyiv’s allies are restricting its use of western-supplied weapons and its forces are still awaiting arms deliveries from abroad. Russia consolidated gains in eastern Ukraine in July, taking control of almost 200 sq km (77 sq miles), according to analysis by Agence France-Presse using data from the US-based Institute for the Study of War (ISW). Zelenskiy said Kyiv was “working very hard” to get permission to strike targets deep inside Russian territory with western-supplied weapons. “Unfortunately, our partners are still afraid of this.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/01/ukraine-war-brie
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How Putin’s patriotism push is changing Russian culture

The Post’s Moscow bureau spend a year investigating the far-reaching cultural impacts of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s wartime nationalism.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-putin-s-patriotism-push-is-ch
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Thursday, Aug 01, 2024 - 01:15 AM

Who could have seen this coming?[/snicker] Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has signed a new law which defers public debt payments until October if necessary, Reuters has confirmed. The bill was signed by Zelensky and returned to parliament on Wednesday.

The government now has the authority to postpone payments on external public debt until restructuring negotiations are seen through, which could then see a moratorium held that would formally mark a sovereign default.



Yep. Things are going great in Ukraine!

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Zelensky Suspends Ukraine's Foreign Debt Payments Starting Aug 1st
Thursday, Aug 01, 2024 - 01:15 AM

Who could have seen this coming?[/snicker] Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has signed a new law which defers public debt payments until October if necessary, Reuters has confirmed. The bill was signed by Zelensky and returned to parliament on Wednesday.

The government now has the authority to postpone payments on external public debt until restructuring negotiations are seen through, which could then see a moratorium held that would formally mark a sovereign default.



Yep. Things are going great in Ukraine!

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Or, any verification or thought.

On one hand, Russia will kill millions of Ukrainians and enslave the rest if it wins. On the other hand, Ukraine slaughters Russians and Russia's confiscated funds pay Ukrainian debts if Russia loses. Time will tell who loses the most, Russia or Ukraine.

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Your soy boys, cat ladies and DEI hires at the New York Times don't share your optimism today, Ted-Bot. Maybe this is what all the Kamala gaslighting over the last week was trying to mask from you.


NEW YORK TIMES: As War Gets Bleaker, More Ukrainians Appear Open to a Peace Deal

Did you see the Steven Spielberg movie Lincoln?



Fuck off, Wetware.

Did you ever see the Steven Spielberg movie BIG?

That's you, every time you try to have an adult conversation.

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Friday, August 2, 2024 2:30 AM

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Not enuf Project Ukraine happy-talk to buoy this thread up?

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Russian forces continue to make slow, steady advances in the Pokrovsk direction (west of Avdiivka), largely enabled by Ukrainian manpower shortages and the terrain in the area immediately northwest of Avdiivka. Russian advances will likely slow further as Russian forces advance into a line of larger and more urban settlements. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky identified the Pokrovsk direction as the Russian military's current priority on August 1 and noted that Russian forces are currently able to advance in certain areas of the front because Ukraine is still struggling with manpower shortages and challenges in properly staffing and equipping new brigades.[1] Zelensky observed that some Ukrainian brigades are unable to conduct rotations because their replacement brigades are not yet staffed or equipped, which creates exploitable weaknesses that Russian forces can attack.[2] Ukrainian military observer Kostyantyn Mashovets noted that Ukrainian defenders in the Pokrovsk direction have inferior equipment and defensive means and are therefore currently unable to slow Russian advances.[3] Delays in the provision of Western and especially US military assistance have contributed to delays in equipping newly-raised Ukrainian units and re-equipping those that have been fighting.[4]

Russian forces appear to be exploiting such weakness to make gradual tactical gains northwest of Avdiivka, where ISW recently assessed that Russian forces are attempting to achieve a limited tactical encirclement of Ukrainian forces east of the T0511 (O0544) Ocheretyne-Hrodivka-Myrnohrad highway, particularly on the left bank of the Vovcha River.[5] Geolocated footage published on August 1 shows that Russian forces have advanced further within Vesele towards the T0511 road, placing the current furthest confirmed Russian advance about 3.5 kilometers from the outskirts of Hrodivka.[6] Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces are attacking south of Vesele along the railway line and windbreaks towards Serhiivka and Zhelanne (just south of Vesele), which could further efforts to tactically encircle Ukrainian forces in this area if Russian forces properly exploit it.[7] Ukrainian and Russian sources also reported that Russian forces seized Tymofiivka (north of the O0544 road and the Vesele area).[8] Mashovets characterized recent Russian advances in the area southeast of the O0544 road as a tactical penetration of Ukrainian lines and stated that Russian forces have advanced 6.5 kilometers deep and 7.5 kilometers wide from Sokil to Serhiivka, crossing both the Vovcha and Kazennyi Torets rivers (running through Prohres-Vovche and Lozuvatske, respectively) in recent weeks.[9] Mashovets warned that Russian forces are close to achieving an operationally significant breakthrough in the Pokrovsk direction by the end of August.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
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Your soy boys, cat ladies and DEI hires at the New York Times don't share your optimism today, Ted-Bot. Maybe this is what all the Kamala gaslighting over the last week was trying to mask from you.


NEW YORK TIMES: As War Gets Bleaker, More Ukrainians Appear Open to a Peace Deal

Did you see the Steven Spielberg movie Lincoln?



Fuck off, Wetware.

Did you ever see the Steven Spielberg movie BIG?

That's you, every time you try to have an adult conversation.

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You touched a point that is the defining characteristic of Trumptards: they are convinced of their own superiority, maturity, wisdom, successfulness. This is despite their actual history of failure. The Russians have got a case of Trumptard thinking. Their mental image of themselves does not match their actual history. In their own minds they are brave, smart, energetic when the real story is that only few of them are successful. That's why Russians and Trumptards are angry at the West and Democrats. The West and Democrats are actual successes, while Russians and Trumptards are not. But there is no way to make Russians or Trumptards see themselves as they really are. In the movie Lincoln, there was no way for Abraham Lincoln to get his wife Mary to see that she was acting crazy. For Abraham to even try to get his wife to see reality caused Mary to screech and rage like a crazy woman. Abraham gives up and apologizes for even trying to explain why a Civil War must be fought. Same is true about the Ukraine War. It must be fought but crazy people can't understand why and will only grow crazier with any effort to show them they are crazy. Explanations always circle around to the truth that Trumptards and Russians are NOT the huge success stories they want to believe about themselves, which only makes Trumptards and Russians crazier as you try to explain reality to them. (It is expected for Trumptards and Russians to consume large quantities of alcohol, tobacco, drugs, whatever will keep their sad reality from overwhelming them psychologically.)

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What Ukraine needs to win | Defence in Depth

Five factors Kyiv needs to defeat Vladimir Putin – and to do so decisively – rather than just survive

2 August 2024 • 8:00am

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/08/02/ukraine-russia-war-v
ictory-weapons-morale-defence-explained
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Despite more than two years of war – and hundreds of thousands of casualties – Western leaders remain divided on what they want Kyiv to achieve.

Many seek Ukraine’s survival in some form as a sovereign nation; others argue anything less than Russia’s defeat, evicted from Ukraine entirely would be appeasement, and far more dangerous.

This absence of a clear objective has led to a muddled policy of arming Ukraine with enough to survive, but not enough to win. As things stand, therefore, a prolonged bloody stalemate – or the slow, attritional defeat of Ukraine – seems the conflict’s most likely outcome.

But let’s imagine we did want Ukraine to win, and win decisively. What would it need?

In this episode of Defence in Depth, Francis Dearnley, The Telegraph’s assistant comment editor and co-presenter of Ukraine: The Latest, examines five factors – the five “Ms” of Manpower, Munitions, Morale, Money and Mandate – that could transform Kyiv’s fortunes.



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This absence of a clear objective has led to a muddled policy of arming Ukraine with enough to survive, but not enough to win. As things stand, therefore, a prolonged bloody stalemate – or the slow, attritional defeat of Ukraine – seems the conflict’s most likely outcome.


The clear objective, initially, was to provoke Russia into a war so that our neocons/ neolibs could break Russia by unleashing the "mother of all sanctions" (Banishment from SWIFT). They hoped to prompt "regime change" in Russia, and thought that they could then break it apart and plunder its resources. The other approach was to sanction Russian oligarchs bc they thought the oligarchs themselves would depose Putin if popular pressure didn't.

When sanctions failed to quickly destabilize Russia, they hoped to grind Russia down, even if that meant fighting "to the last Ukrainian".

But they can't say either of these too loudly or too often, (altho SECOND passed some of this on himself. Thanks SECOND!) because it would disaffect both the American and Ukrainian people, so they had to come up with something ... democracy, freedom, Putin's takeoever of Europe ... to get people's buy in.

Many Ukrainians, of course, feel they're fighting for their country so it's easier to keep them going with a few declarations of "as long as it takes" and dribbling out some more wonder weapons.

At THIS point, both Plan A (sanctions) and Plan B (attrition) failed to achieve the objective, and now it's more of a case of NATO "not losing" than winning, so they're doing different things - dragging out the end, bringing other nations into NATO, placing missiles in Germany - but nothing that will affect the ultimate end of Ukraine as we know it.

In other words - objective failed. No plan "C" to achieve it. Let's scramble around to throw some distractions up into the air.

PS: Ukraine is running out of manpower, and the west is running out of munitions. Yiu can throw all the money you want at this, but even NATO troops without munitions are useless. Given that manpower and munitions are lacking, morale suffers and "mandate" is meaningless. NATO is unwilling to get into a direct war with Russia bc the militaries recognize a losing situation, so ...

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NEW YORK TIMES: As War Gets Bleaker, More Ukrainians Appear Open to a Peace Deal

Did you see the Steven Spielberg movie Lincoln?



Fuck off, Wetware.

Did you ever see the Steven Spielberg movie BIG?

That's you, every time you try to have an adult conversation.

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You touched a point that is the defining characteristic of Trumptards: they are convinced of their own superiority, maturity, wisdom, successfulness.


This sentence, followed up with 200 words doing just that.

You are the least self-aware entity I've ever had the displeasure of coming across in my life, Wetware.

Why don't you tell us all about how Democrats have no vices and never get sick and always make the right choice for the 10,000th time?

Go. Fuck. Yourself.

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This sentence, followed up with 200 words doing just that.

You are the least self-aware entity I've ever had the displeasure of coming across in my life, Wetware.

Why don't you tell us all about how Democrats have no vices and never get sick and always make the right choice for the 10,000th time?

Go. Fuck. Yourself.

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The Old Testament is full of stories about the worst people in the world insisting they are the best. Then God kills the worst to close the story. All-powerful God knows it not worth persuading the worst people in the world to behave themselves better. Sometimes God gleefully tortures the worst before killing them which is very much like what is happening to Trumptards and Russians.

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'No words can describe the horror'

By Alexey Strelnikov | Aug 3, 2024

https://www.dw.com/en/russias-war-in-ukraine-forcing-deserters-to-the-
front-line/a-69825197


In February 2022, as Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Mikhail, whose name has been changed to protect his identity, was already with the Russian armed forces.

"They had told us it looked like there'd be a complete invasion, and everyone thought it'd be over soon," the young man told DW.

But Russia's invasion faltered in the face of massive Ukrainian resistance. By the summer of 2022, after six months of service, Mikhail decided to enlist. He said he found the financial security appealing: The pay was good, service members could access good mortgages, and there were other benefits, too. He said he had mentally prepared for what he would face on the battlefield by watching movies and videos of real battles.

"I thought I was prepared to see death, destruction and loss," he said. "But in reality, there are no words to describe the horrors of war."

Sent to the front line

At first, Mikhail was deployed to a brigade in Russia, where he was promised work in the area instead of being sent to a combat zone. "I go to work in the morning and come home at night": That's what he said he thought it would be like.

Instead, he and a colleague were unexpectedly called into a company for reconnaissance, where they were told they'd be sent away on a mission. After boarding a military plane, they headed to Russia's Belgorod region, right along the border with Ukraine.

"The front in Kharkiv hadn't been opened yet," Mikhail recounted. He spent the winter planting mines, and in June, he crossed the border into Ukraine. Injured during an attack, he spent time in a hospital that constantly ran Russian television programs.

"They kept saying everything was going well and that Ukrainian soldiers were being captured in droves," he told DW. "Everyone in my room just laughed at such nonsense."

One of the men Mikhail met in hospital openly regretted having signed up with Russia's armed forces. Mikhail recalled that the man had also been attracted by the relatively high salary of 200,000 rubles (€2,141, $2,138) the military offered.

Mikhail also recalled how members of his brigade were tortured for disobeying orders. They, too, were forced to stay in deep pits, made to wear long clothes and carry heavy equipment, and had weights and truck tire rims tied to their feet.

Few dare to desert

By now, Mikhail believes that the Kremlin's initial promise that Kyiv would be captured quickly had been displaced by a different reality: "The politicians will gather around a table and come to an agreement," he said, "but they won't be able to bring back the dead."

He added that most soldiers still wouldn't want to flee, especially if they had families. "If you're in your forties and have children and a home, then leaving the country is tantamount to death," he said. Many, he explained, were afraid they'd never see their families again.

Mikhail said that his parents lived in Russia but had accepted his decision to flee the country. While they had initially supported Russia's war in Ukraine, they had changed their minds after learning about what life was really like along the front lines.

The young man only narrowly escaped death on multiple occasions. In one instance, he recounted how he once briefly stepped away from his comrades to smoke a cigarette, who were then struck by a grenade.

"Afterwards, I had to collect their body parts in black bags," he recounted, his face void of expression. This and several similar incidents are what made him decide to reach out to Get Lost. The organization helped him leave Russia.

It was simpler than he thought, he said. Now, Mikhail is starting to rebuild his future. "One day, I want to go to Costa Rica and work in the IT sector," the young man told DW.

This article was originally published in Russian.

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As Russia’s wider war on Ukraine grinds into its 29th month, two opposing ideas are true. Russia is losing more troops and equipment than it can afford to lose over the long term. At the same time, Russia still has more troops and equipment than Ukraine—and, as other Russian attacks stall out, is seizing on that numerical advantage to march on Pokrovsk.

The Russians have concentrated around 20 regiments and brigades in their wide salient east of Pokrovsk: in all, potentially 40,000 troops. Six or so Ukrainian brigades with around 12,000 troops are trying to slow their advance.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/02/lobbing-glide-bombs-a
nd-firing-anti-tank-missiles-russian-forces-are-beating-back-the-ukrainian-47th-mechanized-brigade-and-marching-on-pokrovsk
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Russia’s deepening fury

By Lee Hockstader

When top U.S. and European generals assess Russia’s postwar intentions, they see a country consumed by fury and bent on revenge.

In three to five years — the time Moscow will need to reconstitute its battered forces — strategists believe the Kremlin will gear up to intensify a payback campaign that has already begun with sabotage attacks in Europe and might also target the United States.

“At the end of a conflict in Ukraine — however it concludes — we are going to have a very big Russia problem,” U.S. Gen. Christopher G. Cavoli, the supreme allied commander in Europe, told the Aspen Security Forum this month. “We are going to have a situation where Russia is reconstituting its force, is located on the borders of NATO, is led by largely the same people as it is right now, is convinced that we’re the adversary, and is very, very angry.”

Similarly, the new British armed forces chief, Gen. Sir Roland Walker, warns that Russia is unlikely to settle for a cold peace with Washington and its European allies.

“The lesson from history is the Russians don’t forget, and they will come back … wanting retribution for the support that was given to Ukraine,” he told a conference in London last week.

“The tragedy is that what started two and half years ago as Putin’s war — really one person’s war — in Year 3 is much more Russia’s war than just Putin’s war,” Alexander Gabuev, director of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center in Berlin, told me. “Too many people have died, too much animosity has been created between Russians and Ukrainians and Russia and the West.”

Gabuev, who left Moscow after the 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine, believes that the Kremlin’s ubiquitous domestic propaganda, combined with Western sanctions that have essentially cut off Russians from Europe, have intensified the grip of Vladimir Putin’s acrid nationalism. The Paris Olympics ban dovetails with Moscow’s narrative that a blameless Russia has been canceled by the West.

Just as ominously, Gabuev told me, the war in Ukraine will be the formative experience for future Russian leaders, forged in a struggle against the West, who will be promoted through the military, intelligence apparatus and other key agencies.

“It will be impossible to tell people in the Russian army and security apparatus that the war in Ukraine was unjust,” he said. “It will be set in stone that people explain to themselves that they were fighting all of NATO combined, and that will enshrine all this animosity and hostility.”

That attitude is already hardening throughout Russian society and culture. It is ingrained in revised history texts and even in elite cultural institutions, as an insightful story in The Post described this week. Schoolteachers; factory chiefs; museum directors; music and ballet performers — all of their jobs now depend on toeing Putin’s line. Many ordinary Russians have been cowed into silence and active dissenters forced into exile.

It’s critical that U.S. and European leaders take stock of what Russia has become: an increasingly galvanized society led by elites who see the Western powers as Moscow’s sworn enemy; the war in Ukraine as the outcome of Washington’s provocations; and Putin as an irreplaceable leader on a righteous mission to avenge the Soviet Union’s ignominious collapse.

That toxic stew is a recipe for generational struggle.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/07/31/russia-putin-reveng
e-ukraine-allies
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You are the least self-aware entity I've ever had the displeasure of coming across in my life, Wetware.

Why don't you tell us all about how Democrats have no vices and never get sick and always make the right choice for the 10,000th time?

Go. Fuck. Yourself.

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He will also be your next President.

The Old Testament is full of stories about the worst people in the world insisting they are the best. Then God kills the worst to close the story. All-powerful God knows it not worth persuading the worst people in the world to behave themselves better. Sometimes God gleefully tortures the worst before killing them which is very much like what is happening to Trumptards and Russians.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



So Sayeth, Wetware!



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Sunday, August 4, 2024 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

So Sayeth, Wetware!



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Trump will be fine.
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The following makes me think you intend suicide to avoid a gruesome death caused by your self-abuse. 6ix, you won't even be in the first hundred dead Trumptards I know who died because of their eating/drinking/smoking/drug habits. May I suggest Russian roulette to go with the theme Russia Invades Ukraine? http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11984
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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Glad to hear that you cleared something out of our life that was a weight Jack.



Thanks Brenda.

Yeah... It was something that was never going to get finished by me, even if I had all the time in the world to do it. But I like maintaining complete control over something I've worked so hard on and put so many years into without any monetary compensation for the work, and even though I knew I could never finish it alone I wouldn't budge on it and I kept it all to myself.

I wish I'd given that control up a long time ago, but at least I finally did. The end result isn't going to be my own vision anymore. Hell... there may never even be an "end result" even long after I'm gone. But a part of me will always be with it, no matter what form it ultimately takes...

And that's good enough.



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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

So Sayeth, Wetware!



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He will also be your next President.

The following makes me think you intend suicide to avoid a gruesome death caused by your self-abuse. 6ix, you won't even be in the first hundred dead Trumptards I know who died because of their eating/drinking/smoking/drug habits. May I suggest Russian roulette to go with the theme Russia Invades Ukraine? http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11984
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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Glad to hear that you cleared something out of our life that was a weight Jack.



Thanks Brenda.

Yeah... It was something that was never going to get finished by me, even if I had all the time in the world to do it. But I like maintaining complete control over something I've worked so hard on and put so many years into without any monetary compensation for the work, and even though I knew I could never finish it alone I wouldn't budge on it and I kept it all to myself.

I wish I'd given that control up a long time ago, but at least I finally did. The end result isn't going to be my own vision anymore. Hell... there may never even be an "end result" even long after I'm gone. But a part of me will always be with it, no matter what form it ultimately takes...

And that's good enough.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





Okay, Doctor Wetware.

Thanks for your professional diagnosis. I think I'm going to go ask Chat GPT for a second opinion.



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Sunday, August 4, 2024 11:30 AM

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Excerpt from Battleground Ukraine: From Independence to the War with Russia [2024]
https://www.amazon.com/Battleground-Ukraine-Independence-War-Russia/dp
/0300269463


The Stubborn Legend of a Western ‘Coup’ in Ukraine

Ten years on, there is still confusion over what, exactly, transpired on the last days of the Maidan.

August 4, 2024, 7:00 AM

By Adrian Karatnycky, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and the founder of Myrmidon Group.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/08/04/ukraine-maidan-revolution-russia-
coup-myth-yanukovych/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921


While Russia has made a slew of outlandish assertions about Ukraine, including that the country is led by a Nazi regime, few Russian narratives have entrenched themselves more thoroughly in the Western far right and far left than that Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was illegitimately removed from office in a Western-backed coup in February 2014. This claim has been a key element of Russian propaganda, echoed in the United States by such public figures as independent U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., filmmaker Oliver Stone, and Cato Institute defense expert Ted Galen Carpenter.

The idea that Yanukovych’s removal was illegitimate is easily refuted: After Yanukovych abandoned his office by fleeing from Ukraine to Russia, he was stripped of the presidency by a constitutional majority in parliament. Even Russia joined the rest of the world in recognizing the new Ukrainian government a few months later.

But the truth underlying the events of February 2014 is far more interesting: The preponderance of evidence suggests that it was Moscow itself that triggered Yanukovych’s departure in order to launch a pre-arranged Plan B—the invasion of Crimea and an engineered “uprising” in eastern Ukraine—after Moscow’s Plan A—a new treaty with a pliant government in Kyiv that placed it under Russia’s de facto control—was about to fail. Indeed, the timeline shows that preparations for Plan B were well underway before Yanukovych’s removal from office. All this, in turn, demonstrates that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s plans for Ukraine were far more predatory all along than merely preventing the country’s drift toward NATO, as many of Russia’s Western apologists contend.

The Maidan mass protests—which lasted from November 2013 to February 2014 in Kyiv and many other cities across Ukraine—erupted when Yanukovych pivoted from a wide-ranging association agreement with the European Union to a similar one with the Russian-led Eurasian Economic Union. Ukraine’s move toward closer relations with the EU was the trigger for Putin’s Plan A: the transfer of Ukraine to the Kremlin’s sphere of influence. To stop Yanukovych’s deal with Europe, Moscow pressured Kyiv with trade sanctions, including an embargo of key Ukrainian exports to Russia. In return for joining Russia’s economic bloc, Moscow offered Kyiv an emergency $3 billion loan to shore up a budget drained of resources by Yanukovych’s corruption. At the same time, Russia pressured him to violently crush the Maidan, suppress the pro-Western opposition, and thereby alienate him from the West. Toward this end, officials from the Russian security services and Putin aide Vladislav Surkov were frequent visitors in Kyiv.

Yanukovych, who had never established an absolute autocracy on the Russian model, resisted an all-out crackdown against the hundreds of thousands of largely peaceful protesters throughout western and central Ukraine. As his final actions as president would show, he also retained the hope of being able to balance Russian influence with continued relations with the West. It was to prevent that outcome that Moscow triggered his departure.

In all, more than 100 civilians and 13 police and security service operatives would die during the Maidan. Yet while the security services brutally attacked protesters all throughout the Maidan, the main deadly violence only occurred between Feb. 18 and Feb. 20, 2014—precisely the time when negotiations between the government and opposition over a political compromise were gaining traction. Brokered by the foreign ministers of Poland, France, and Germany—Radoslaw Sikorski, Laurent Fabius, and Frank-Walter Steinmeier, respectively—with Putin envoy Vladimir Lukin present as well, negotiations had begun to gain momentum on Feb. 17. Over the next three days, 78 protesters and 11 police were killed.

This level of violence shocked and angered Ukrainian society. In response to mounting public fury and the threat of extensive Western sanctions, Yanukovych intensified negotiations on a compromise and moved to release detained and imprisoned protesters. For Putin, however, any path of negotiated compromise was a clear setback to his Plan A, which would have locked Yanukovych and his government into complete dependency on Moscow.

As deadly violence engulfed the streets of Kyiv, Yanukovych signaled his agreement to a broad government of national unity. After the opposition turned down the top post of prime minister, Yanukovych indicated that he would nominate Serhiy Tihipko, the billionaire former head of Ukraine’s central bank. For the Russians, Tihipko was a red flag: He had denounced politicians who were willing to “sacrifice Ukraine’s territorial integrity for electoral votes,” was a proponent of Ukraine’s integration with the EU, and opposed making Russian the second state language.

Coupled with the potential transfer of key ministries into the hands of the opposition and new elections by year’s end, Yanukovych’s willingness to compromise set off alarm bells in the Kremlin, whose representative, Lukin, withheld his signature from the agreement. Once before, during the 2004 Orange Revolution, Yanukovych had disappointed Putin by refusing to use brute force to stay in power after falsified presidential elections. When Yanukovych eventually returned to power by legal means in 2010, he further angered Russia with negotiations toward a free trade agreement with the EU, which he only aborted after extensive Russian economic sanctions and embargoes on Ukrainian exports. To Putin, Yanukovych was again vacillating and refusing to show an iron hand.

On the morning of Feb. 20, after two days of violence had failed to crush the Maidan and with Yanukovych on the verge of signing a compromise agreement with the opposition, the Kremlin pivoted. A delegation of Russian Federal Security Service officials, including Sergei Beseda, head of the Fifth Service in charge of international operations, arrived in Kyiv—the third such visit since the Maidan began. Officially there to “protect Russian diplomatic facilities,” Beseda’s real mission was to advise hardliners inside Yanukovych’s leadership team, block a compromise, and, failing that, set in motion a Plan B—Russia’s ambitious plot to splinter Ukraine.

As the EU envoys met with Yanukovych and opposition leaders to finalize the deal—and as Yanukovych did not agree to a request by Beseda to meet—the hardliners in the government escalated, presumably under Moscow’s instructions. Then-Ukrainian Interior Minister Vitaliy Zakharchenko and Security Service chief Oleksandr Yakimenko unleashed a brutal attack on the protesters in an apparent attempt to unravel the deal that that was in the process of being struck.

Indeed, Feb. 20 proved to be the bloodiest day, with police snipers shooting 48 protesters.

Zakharchenko’s role in the mayhem is well established, as are his close relations with Russia’s security services, who advised him tactics and had equipped his ministry with grenades, tear gas, and other crowd control munitions purchased for $100,000. His role as a trusted Russian asset was confirmed after his escape to Moscow, when he became senior advisor to Rostec, Russia’s state company in charge of sensitive advanced technologies, including for the military. He also ran a Russian fund that rewarded traitors from Ukraine’s security forces. Yakimenko, who had spent a decade as an officer in Russia’s armed forces and whose murky past suggested links to Russian security services, deployed snipers from the Ukrainian Security Service’s Alpha special forces unit. Ukrainian prosecutors would later allege that Yakimenko subsequently supplied pro-Russian insurgents in Ukraine with weapons as part of Putin’s effort to dismember Ukraine.

In the aftermath of the mass killings, Yanukovych signed the Agreement on the Stabilization of the Political Crisis in Ukraine on Feb. 21. But the bloodshed had changed the political calculus. Denounced by the opposition and abandoned by many of his allies in parliament, calls for Yanukovych to step down gained momentum. Yet even for the most radical elements in Ukraine’s opposition, there was no way to force him out, especially with the continued presence of thousands of militia and security forces that remained under the command of officials closely aligned with Russia. Hundreds of armed pro-Yanukovych vigilantes had also arrived from the Donbas.

Yet surprisingly, as the compromise was being ratified, this massive security infrastructure suddenly vanished. The Berkut riot police and the Alpha group exited the government quarter, where most of the protests were taking place, along with hundreds of other police. Sikorski described the sudden and systematic withdrawal as “astonishing,” noting it was not part of the agreement. This dramatic U-turn could not have happened in such rapid and orderly fashion had it occurred through internal divisions in the security services—the usual last and necessary step in the collapse of a regime. Nor were there any prior signs of security service defections to the opposition in Kyiv. The sudden stand-down can only be explained as a top-down decision by Russia’s fifth column in the security services leadership. The justification for abandoning Yanukovych overnight was soon afterward intimated by Putin: On March 4, 2014, he said that by compromising with the opposition, “Yanukovych had in fact surrendered all his power.”

Absent the Kremlin’s support, amid the disappearance of Yanukovych’s security services in the government quarter, and with a majority for a new coalition emerging in parliament, the isolated Yanukovych sought desperately to maintain his leverage and relevance. Hoping, perhaps, to maintain some semblance of power, he switched to Russia’s Plan B—the splintering of Ukraine. He traveled to Kharkiv later that day to lead a conference of regional government leaders from southern and eastern Ukraine, but was rebuffed by leaders from his own Party of Regions. Rather than attending an ineffectual rump conference, Yanukovych escaped on the night of Feb. 21 to Crimea, where Russia’s takeover of the peninsula was already underway.

It was in only in the aftermath of Yanukovych’s flight from Kyiv and disappearance from Kharkiv that Ukraine’s Rada met on Feb. 22, and by a constitutional majority stripped him of office. On Feb. 28, Yanukovych finally resurfaced in Rostov-on-Don, Russia, where he gave a press conference denouncing his removal from office. It was to be his last major public event. He then disappeared from the media and Russian propaganda, which soon switched to trumpeting the “Russian Spring”—the supposed uprising in Ukraine’s south and east, largely orchestrated by Russian assets. Plan B was now in full effect.

In the end, Russia’s efforts failed in Odesa, Kharkiv, Kherson, and Mykolaiv. But it succeeded in much of the Donbas and led to Russia’s rapid annexation of Crimea. On March 26, 2014, the Russian Defense Ministry celebrated the annexation of Crimea by minting a medal. The medal, which initially appeared on a Defense Ministry website but was later removed, bears the date of the start of the “return of Crimea”: Feb. 20, 2014. It is highly unlikely that this dating of the launch of Russia’s operation to dismember Ukraine—two full days before the supposed “coup” that removed Yanukovych—is a mistake.

The Maidan mass protests and civic action were a landmark event in Ukraine’s history. The Maidan, without question, blocked Putin’s Plan A—Ukraine’s march, as a whole, into Russia’s orbit. The Maidan also forced Yanukovych to agree to new elections, compelled him to appoint a caretaker coalition government, and helped Ukraine’s democratic institutions endure. But it is no less true that it was precisely for this reason that, as an agreement was about to be struck in the final days of the Maidan, Russia rapidly shifted to its prepared Plan B, withdrew support from Yanukovych, and launched its operation to partition Ukraine.

A clear understanding of Putin’s actions and motives during this critical period in Ukraine’s history is not just a matter of setting the record straight. It is crucial in understanding Putin’s longstanding aims, which went far beyond blocking Ukraine’s accession to NATO or the EU. By early 2014, his ultimate aim was already the dismemberment of Ukraine and the eventual incorporation of many of its territories into Russia. Putin never abandoned his grandiose revisionist aims, which resurfaced in the large-scale invasion Russia launched on Feb. 22, 2022, eight years to the day that Yanukovych was removed from office.

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Not enuf Project Ukraine happy-talk to buoy this thread up?




Ukraine finally deploying F-16 fighter jets, says Zelenskiy

The Ukrainian leader announced the use of F-16s, which Kyiv has long lobbied for, as he met military pilots at an air base flanked by two of the jets with two more flying overhead.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-finally-deploying-f-16-fi
ghter-jets-says-zelenskiy/ar-AA1odhOm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=afa70b120d624882aa555554ccd4c046&ei=64




OK, happy talk...

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Sunday, August 4, 2024 5:57 PM

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Not enuf Project Ukraine happy-talk to buoy this thread up?




Putin's £275,000,000 submarine sent 'to the bottom of the Black Sea'

Russia appears to have lost a £257,000,000 submarine capable of deploying nuclear missiles after Ukraine claims to have sunk it.

The Rostov-on-Don was docked at Sevastopol, headquarters of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, when it was hit by missiles, Ukraine’s Armed Forces said on Saturday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-275-000-000-submarine-sen
t-to-the-bottom-of-the-black-sea/ar-AA1ocYN0?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=afa70b120d624882aa555554ccd4c046&ei=91


And, more happy talk comrade.

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Sunday, August 4, 2024 6:18 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Ukraine provided no visual proof of the submarine being sunk. However, satellite imagery obtained by The War Zone shows that a peculiar floating installation at Sevastopol’s port, one that only came into being in the last few months, was clearly damaged within the last 48 hours. The facility is nestled deep in one of the bay’s fingers and was constructed using two barges with a roof-like covering strung between them. This is where some claim the submarine was being worked on at the time of the strike, although we cannot confirm that.

https://www.twz.com/air/ukraine-situation-report-russian-submarine-des
troyed-kyiv-claims


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Sunday, August 4, 2024 6:46 PM

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Current best estimates of Russian losses are appx 100,000 dead. (Not 300,000 as some claim). Ukrainian dead are estimated at about 500,000. AFA armored vehicles, it's impossible to determine how many Russia has lost, since FPV drones can only carry a light charge and leave most (80%?) armored vehicles damaged but repairable.

Not sure about aircraft, ships, and air defense installations. Some say Russia loses about one aircraft a week. It's certain however that Ukraine has almost none left of any of them.

So Russia has been attriting both Ukraine and NATO efficiently. The question is whether their plan is EFFECTIVE. (Efficient - doing things right. Effective - doing the right thing.) I sense that Russia wants to see this war end before November. They attack more than they defend. They've increased the compensation for military volunteers. Their recruitment ads previously had an air of invulnerability... men firing artillery, or racing into battle. Their latest is much grittier, showing soldiers in dire situations and praying. (I wish I could link it for you but RT is blocked.)

That, plus Russian analyses that they would rather negotiate with Biden* than with Trump. (I can think of a half dozen reasons why.)

So I believe that the culmination of the war is coming soon.


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Monday, August 5, 2024 1:24 AM

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It will be fine.

They're just going to ship in half a million black Muslim men to Ukraine to screw all the young widows and there won't actually be any Ukrainians left in 2 generations.

George Soros only dreams of being able to do this to all the rest of the European countries and America.

Things keep going the way they have been, he might live out that dream. It's the evil ones like him that live until they're 120 years old.

Only the good die young.

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Monday, August 5, 2024 6:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Current best estimates of Russian losses are appx 100,000 dead. (Not 300,000 as some claim).

Really? 26,600,000 dead in WWII for the Russians.
Compare that to 7,400,000 for the Nazis, being attacked on two fronts.
Compare that to 420,000 for the USA, fighting all over the world.

Putin can make up any old number he wants. Officially the Russian death toll is so small that Putin does not even have a website to list the names of dead. Why bother when the number is few? Besides, it is a State Secret for how many died for Mother Russia. A Russia could go to jail for revealing the number, it is that important to keep it a Secret. (In contrast, every American soldier killed is on the News either that day or the next. Military deaths are not a Secret in America.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Nazi_Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#United_States

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It will be fine.

They're just going to ship in half a million black Muslim men to Ukraine to screw all the young widows and there won't actually be any Ukrainians left in 2 generations.

George Soros only dreams of being able to do this to all the rest of the European countries and America.

Things keep going the way they have been, he might live out that dream. It's the evil ones like him that live until they're 120 years old.

Only the good die young.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

As a reminder, 6ixStringJack posted the above to prove, once again, that he is not right in the head. 6ix has been insinuating elsewhere that he is both "good" and dying young, just like Russian males in war die decades younger than males born in the EU.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11984
16#1198416


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Russian milbloggers responded to the arrival of F-16s by trying to downplay their potential battlefield effects—directly undermining Russian information operations intended to frame the delivery of F-16s and other Western weapons systems as an uncrossable "red line." Several Russian milbloggers claimed that Western and Ukrainian media are "overhyping" the arrival of F-16s in order to distract from battlefield failures, and many milbloggers turned to immediately discussing how Russian forces will begin targeting and destroying the aircraft.[10] Russian information space commentators and officials have frequently claimed that the delivery of Western weaponry to Ukraine constitutes a red line, that if crossed, will force Russia into an escalatory response.[11] Russia has repeatedly proven, however, that the invocation of supposed "red lines" is a reflexive control technique intended to force the West into self-deterring against providing Ukraine with additional military aid.[12] Western and Ukrainian policies have crossed Russia's self-defined "red lines" multiple times since the beginning of the war without drawing a significant Russian reaction, which Russian milblogger comments suggest will prove to be the case with Russia's response to F-16s.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-august-4-2024


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The Russian defense industry reportedly continues to produce missiles using Western-sourced components. Ukraine-based open-source organization Frontelligence Insight analyzed documents that the Ukrainian Cyber Resistance group obtained from a military base in Shaykovka, Kaluga Oblast, and found that Russian forces are using SN-99 navigation modules heavily comprised of Western components in Kh-32 cruise missiles.[53] Frontelligence Insight found that Russian forces have used SN-99 navigation modules produced in March 2023 in strikes against Ukraine and that the Russian cruise missile manufacturer Raduga Design Bureau is responsible for retrofitting modernized SN-99 modules onto Kh-32 missiles. Frontelligence Insight noted that it is unclear how Russian defense companies obtain Western components for SN-99 navigation modules. UK-based organization Conflict Armament Research previously published an investigation in September 2022 that found Western components in navigation systems in Kh-101 and Kh-59 cruise missiles.[54]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-august-4-2024


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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It will be fine.

They're just going to ship in half a million black Muslim men to Ukraine to screw all the young widows and there won't actually be any Ukrainians left in 2 generations.

George Soros only dreams of being able to do this to all the rest of the European countries and America.

Things keep going the way they have been, he might live out that dream. It's the evil ones like him that live until they're 120 years old.

Only the good die young.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

As a reminder, 6ixStringJack posted the above to prove, once again, that he is not right in the head. 6ix has been insinuating elsewhere that he is both "good" and dying young, just like Russian males in war die decades younger than males born in the EU.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11984
16#1198416




Those Russian men are fighting against NATO expansion and aggression.

Half a million Ukrainian men have needlessly died now; being used as cannon fodder for your NATO masters while you you and Ted-Bot cheerlead the war from the sidelines, safely behind your computer screens like the worthless big-mouth cowards you are.

Fucking pro-war, Cheney bootlicking NeoCons, the both of you.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Those Russian men are fighting against NATO expansion and aggression.

Half a million Ukrainian men have needlessly died now; being used as cannon fodder for your NATO masters while you you and Ted-Bot cheerlead the war from the sidelines, safely behind your computer screens like the worthless big-mouth cowards you are.

Fucking pro-war, Cheney bootlicking NeoCons, the both of you.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

6ixStringJack, you get crazier day by day. I am not sure which will bring out your absolute highest level of madness: Trump winning? Trump losing? Russia winning? Russia losing? Probably any of those. I look forward to the election, the aftermath, and a conclusion to the Russo-Ukrainian War to see what Trumptard Maximum Insanity looks like.

(In related insanity, Putin's spokesmen and Putin himself keep threatening to nuke the West over Ukraine. Those threats are positive proof the Russians are crazy.)

Putin threatens to nuke the west
https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+threatens+to+nuke+the+west

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Ukraine Had A Chance To Blow Up Russia’s Best Warplanes On The Tarmac. The White House Said No — And Now It’s Too Late.

Ukraine is still hitting Russian airfields, but only with less destructive drones.

By David Axe | Aug 5, 2024, 05:05pm EDT

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/05/ukraine-had-a-chance-
to-blow-up-russias-best-warplanes-on-the-tarmac-the-white-house-said-no-and-now-its-too-late
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For months, Ukrainian officials have been begging their foreign allies for permission to use the best donated weaponry—in particular, powerful ballistic missiles—to hit Russian warplanes that have been parking out in the open at airfields inside Russia within quick flying time of Ukrainian cities.

For months, those allies have demurred, citing the risk of escalation as Russia’s wider war on Ukraine grinds into its 29th month.

Clearly growing impatient, Ukrainian forces have stepped up their attacks on the most vulnerable Russian airfields—strictly deploying Ukrainian-made munitions. On Saturday, Ukrainian drones targeted Morozovsk air base in southern Russia 200 miles from the front line in eastern Ukraine.

According to the Ukrainian intelligence directorate, the drone raid destroyed a Russian air force Sukhoi Su-34 fighter-bomber, damaged two additional Su-34s and burned down an ammunition warehouse.

The directorate published satellite imagery of the base depicting what it described as “extensive areas of scorched earth” resulting from the ammo cooking off in the aftermath of the attack.

This isn’t the first attack on Morozovsk, but it is one of the most destructive. It’s a bittersweet victory for the Ukrainians, however. Similar raids are getting harder to pull off as the Russians redeploy their warplanes to less vulnerable bases.

It’s obvious what the Ukrainian intelligence directorate is trying to achieve. By targeting Morozovsk and other airfields near the Russia-Ukraine border, the directorate hopes to destroy the key enablers of Russia’s glide-bombing campaign: the warplanes that carry the bombs as well as the bombs themselves.

Since dropping its first crude glide bombs on Ukraine last year, the Russian air force has really embraced the satellite-guided munitions. Thanks to their pop-out wings, the hastily-built “KAB” glide bombs possess just enough range—25 miles or more, depending on the model—to allow Su-34 fighter-bombers to hit Ukrainian troops and civilians from beyond the range of the best Ukrainian air defenses.

Every day, the Russians drop as many as 100 KABs, some weighing more than three tons. “Unfortunately, in urban environments, their large and frequent use is highly effective,” Ukrainian analysis group Frontelligence Insight reported.

“Even though they are often imprecise, the sheer payload is enough to demolish or severely damage buildings, even if the KAB doesn’t hit the target directly,” Frontelligence Insight continued. “When buildings collapse, underground basements trap people inside, making rescue operations impossible, especially when the Russians conduct double and triple-tap attacks.”

As urban demolition weapons, the KABs have been a deciding factor in practically every recent Russian victory all along the 700-mile front line. “In the past, like in the battle for Bakhmut [last year], it sometimes took days for Russian artillery to damage buildings enough to force defenders to retreat,” Frontelligence Insight explained. “Now, entire buildings can collapse in seconds, rendering them useless for defensive purposes.”

It’s a top priority of the government in Kyiv to blunt the glide-bombing campaign by destroying the bombers, the bombs—or both.

There was a rare opportunity to deliver a major blow against the KAB infrastructure earlier this summer, when the Russian air force’s 47th Guards Bomber Aviation Regiment parked dozens of Su-34s—out of roughly 100 in service—in open at Voronezh Malshevo air base in southern Russia 100 miles from the border with Ukraine.

Voronezh Malshevo is a reasonably well-defended base, so the Ukrainians pleaded for permission to fire their best American-made Army Tactical Missile System rockets at the base. The ATACMs are almost impossible to intercept.

But the administration of U.S. Pres. Joe Biden said no. “Our policy has not changed,” Jake Sullivan, Biden’s national security advisor, told reporters last month. As before, Ukraine would only be allowed to fire ATACMS at targets in Russian-occupied Ukraine.

The Russians observed the heated diplomacy regarding ATACMS—and made a rare proactive decision to pull the Su-34s from Voronezh Malshevo and other border airfields.

“Between the second half of June and mid-July, Russian forces relocated a lion’s [share] of valuable military assets away from the border area with Ukraine,” Frontelligence Insight noted. The departure of Su-34s from Voronezh Malshevo was among “the most notable movements.”

Today many of the Su-34s are at bases hundreds of miles from the border. They’re not invulnerable to Ukrainian drones—the farthest-flying models range more than 1,000 miles.

But they are safe from most Ukrainian drones, as well as from the ATACMS, the most powerful of which range just 190 miles. If the White House ever grants permission for ATACMS raids on Russian bases, it might be too late. The most valuable targets may be too far away.

Obviously, a handful of Su-34s—as well as some stocks of KAB bombs—remain at border airfields such as Morozovsk: Ukraine just hit three of the planes plus their ammo.

But to end the glide-bombing campaign, Ukraine needs to destroy scores of Su-34s—not one or several. And smarter Russian deployments are making that harder to achieve.

Sources:

1. Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate: https://gur.gov.ua/en/content/znyshcheno-su-34-ta-sklad-bk-detali-bavo
vny-na-aerodromi-morozovsk.html


2. Frontelligence Insight: https://frontelligence.substack.com/p/impact-and-defense-mitigating-th
e
; https://frontelligence.substack.com/p/russians-dont-wait-for-western-a
pproval


3. U.S. Defense Department: https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3836116/nati
onal-security-advisor-ukraine-is-successfully-defending-against-russia
/

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Tuesday, August 6, 2024 8:57 AM

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Europe’s ability to deter Putin hampered by ‘unbelievable’ red tape: French general

EU needs to up its game on military mobility, but it’s no easy task, General Bertrand Toujouse tells POLITICO.

By Laura Kayali | August 5, 2024 5:47 am CET

https://www.politico.eu/article/french-general-army-mobility-military-
troop-movements-exercise-red-tape-russia-ukraine-war
/

The French army painfully realized how difficult it was to cross Europe in the spring of 2022.

LILLE, France — If Europe wants to deter possible Russian aggression, it has to do a much better job of moving tanks, troops and ammunition across the continent, a top French general told POLITICO.

During the Cold War, countries were used to moving military gear around, a task that was "very simple" back then but "has gradually become extremely complex," said General Bertrand Toujouse, in charge of the French army's newly created land command for Europe.

"It's absolutely essential to put military mobility back into European minds, and for this we need to practice," he added, speaking from his office in Lille.

If Russia attacks a NATO country, European and American soldiers would need to reach the alliance's eastern flank as fast as possible.

But current obstacles to swift movement include lengthy and fragmented administrative processes to carry war materiel across borders; inadequate infrastructure — including bridges and tunnels — to move armored vehicles; and a lack of transport capacity such as rail cars.

In May, EU foreign ministers urged capitals to implement the bloc's Military Mobility Pledge, which includes commitments to invest in infrastructure and to ensure prioritized access to road, rail and other transport methods for armed forces.

In June, France announced it would join an agreement already signed by Poland, Germany and the Netherlands to create a military transit corridor. In July, Greece, Bulgaria and Romania signed a letter of intent for cross-border military mobility cooperation.

The French army painfully realized how difficult it was to cross Europe in the spring of 2022, when it deployed a battalion to Romania in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

"We discovered the extent of the administrative red tape. There's a war in Ukraine, but customs officials explain that you don't have the right tonnage per axle and that your tanks aren't allowed to cross Germany," Toujouse recalled. "It's just unbelievable."

Beyond the administrative burden, soldiers were rusty on crucial skills.

The French army — which spent past decades fighting in Afghanistan and the West African Sahel region — had not loaded military equipment onto trains for about 20 years, the French general said.

Train station managers at SNCF, the French national railway company, were also in the dark.

"We're going back to something we knew how to do and had completely forgotten," Toujouse said.

France has deployed troops to Romania as part of a broader NATO effort to bolster its eastern defenses, and hopes to use regular troop and equipment rotation to relearn the art of military transport.

Road, sea, rail

Toujouse acknowledged that improving military mobility won't be easy because transport and customs rules are largely a national prerogative.

"You are frankly attacking state sovereignty" when tackling "rather sensitive" matters such as who can transit through a country, custom duties and what kind of weapons can be on board, he said.

He wants policymakers to focus on rail transport first. "Railroads are still by far the most practical" way to move tanks around, he explained. "This is where we need to concentrate."

One idea is to cut access fees. Toujouse said that currently, the French military has to pay €30 million a year to guarantee around-the-clock access to cross-continental trains. "We hope that ... we can manage to secure access to a train without being obliged to pay," he said.

France also has to up its transport infrastructure game.

"When a Spanish or a Portuguese brigade will want to transit to Slovakia, there's a high probability it will pass through France," Toujouse said. American troops also regularly practice moving soldiers and vehicles around Europe, and often test French ports.

Retired U.S. Lieutenant General Ben Hodges — a former commander of the U.S. Army in Europe — told POLITICO that Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014 was "a wake-up call" on the need to improve military mobility.

Since then, he added, "there has been improvement, but it’s mainly in the form of recognition there’s a problem."

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Russian Security Council Secretary and former Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu heavily overexaggerated Russian advances in Ukraine since mid-June 2024. Shoigu stated on August 6 that Russian forces have seized 420 square kilometers of Ukrainian territory since June 14, 2024, when Russian President Vladimir Putin outlined his uncompromising demands for Ukraine’s capitulation as a prerequisite for "peace" negotiations in Ukraine.[13] ISW has observed evidence confirming that Russian forces have seized approximately 290 square kilometers since June 14. Russian forces increased the intensity of their assaults in the Toretsk direction on the night of June 18 after being generally inactive in this sector of the front throughout 2024.[14] ISW has not observed large or operationally significant Russian gains in the Toretsk or Avdiivka direction since July 14, although Russian forces have made tactical gains in these directions since July 14. The Russian military command has repeatedly exaggerated Russian territorial advances in Ukraine.[15]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-august-6-2024


There are 603,628 square kilometres in Ukraine. Will somebody please speed up the conquest?
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+area+of+ukraine+in+square+
kilometers


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