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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Saturday, May 27, 2023 12:42 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing. I know you're evading the question, and if you don't answer it in your next post I'm going to show people why. Or just go back to your home under the bridge, where you came from. SECOND: Russia's Medvedev Threatens Ukraine With Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike. Signym, do you see the word "threat"?
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Saturday, May 27, 2023 2:54 PM
THG
Saturday, May 27, 2023 10:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Let's give it another two weeks, shall we?
Sunday, May 28, 2023 2:01 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing. I know you're evading the question, and if you don't answer it in your next post I'm going to show people why. Or just go back to your home under the bridge, where you came from. SECOND: Russia's Medvedev Threatens Ukraine With Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike. Signym, do you see the word "threat"? Yes, SECOND, I see the WORD "threat" in the headline, but NOT IN YOUR QUOTE. So, where is MEDVEDEV's threat that you threaten us with? Still no answer, but a lot of prevarication! Why is THAT, troll? Quote: The very first para of your link: "Russia will launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike should the West provide Ukraine with nuclear weapons, Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, warned on Friday." Well, the answer is fucking simple: don't arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons! And the reason WHY SECOND refused to provide a full quote is bc he did what he likess to do: misquote/misinterpret/spin what others say to attempt to manipulate you. Just as an aside, there is an informal distinction between sociopath and psychopath, altho it doesn't exist in the DSM. Psychopaths show a lot better impulse control and pre-planning. SECOND doesn't qualify as a psychopth bc he can't even keep his lies straight.
Quote: The very first para of your link: "Russia will launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike should the West provide Ukraine with nuclear weapons, Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, warned on Friday." Well, the answer is fucking simple: don't arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons! And the reason WHY SECOND refused to provide a full quote is bc he did what he likess to do: misquote/misinterpret/spin what others say to attempt to manipulate you. Just as an aside, there is an informal distinction between sociopath and psychopath, altho it doesn't exist in the DSM. Psychopaths show a lot better impulse control and pre-planning. SECOND doesn't qualify as a psychopth bc he can't even keep his lies straight.
Sunday, May 28, 2023 2:58 AM
Sunday, May 28, 2023 7:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, it's embarrassing watching you squirm.
Sunday, May 28, 2023 7:56 AM
Sunday, May 28, 2023 4:11 PM
Sunday, May 28, 2023 4:31 PM
Quote: Latest Headlines Digest - The West's Tone Drastically Shifts Sad Reality: The Ukraine War Is Now Going Russia’s Way by Daniel Davis Daniel L. Davis is a Senior Fellow for Defense Priorities and a former Lt. Col. in the U.S. Army who deployed into combat zones four times. ... As of November 2022, it was fair to say the Russian general staff had been outperformed by the Ukrainian general staff. Many pundits in the West concluded that Russian troops and leaders were deeply flawed and incapable of improving, believing that Russia would remain incapable tactically for the duration of the war... Ukraine, on the other hand, chose to contest major cities and has now lost staggering numbers of troops – but they also lost the city itself in the end. The decision of the Ukrainian general staff to defend Bakhmut until the end may have grave implications for the rest of the war. ... I assess there is currently no likely path for Ukraine to achieve a military victory. https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad-reality-the-ukraine-war-is-now-going-russias-way/ Two Weeks at the Front in Ukraine Within weeks, the [Ukrainian] battalion faced annihilation: entire platoons had been wiped out in close-contact firefights, and some seventy men had been encircled and massacred. The dwindling survivors, one officer told me, “became useless because they were so tired.” In January, what was left of the battalion retreated from the village and established defensive positions in the tree lines and open farmland a mile to the west. “Wagner kicked our asses,” the officer said. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/29/two-weeks-at-the-front-in-ukraine All in all, the article paints a grisly picture of Ukrainian trench life; one sargeant intoned how ‘everyone is sick’, and apparently coming down with even tuberculosis is common. Others contract ‘ravenous bacteria’, including one soldier who had open sores for months and was being ‘eaten alive’ by fleas. And though the author maunders through the heartfelt account in search of some anchoring pensée which could sublimate the horror he witnessed into a message of hope or heroism or …meaning, of any kind for the poor Ukrainians he’s desperate to uplift—he instead finishes on a nihilistic note, drawing the parallel of a cemetery sprawled with countless Ukrainian flags; even under duress, he could find nothing optimistic to buoy the spirits of the AFU 36 Hours in Bakhmut: One Unit’s Desperate Battle to Hold Back the Russians WSJ archive copy Russian troops were assaulting one of the apartment blocks that his group of 16 draftees, many of whom had been enlisted days earlier and given no training, had been assigned to defend...O ver the 36 hours he spent in brutal house-to-house combat in the eastern Ukrainian city, 11 of the 16 men from Malkovskiy’s group of draftees were either killed or captured, according to surviving https://archive.is/zPFVT https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd5e6b62-3dce-4902-bcfa-fc38ac2d66cc_648x680.jpeg Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say The RUSI [Royal United Services Instituter, a British military think-tank] report said that along the roughly 750 miles of the conflict's front line, Russia maintained a major electronic-warfare system roughly every 6 miles. These are set back about 4 miles from the front and focused mainly on neutralizing drones, the report said. https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-losing-10000-drones-month-russia-electronic-warfare-rusi-report-2023-5 Russia Is Adapting Arms and Tactics Ahead of Ukraine Offensive Bloomberg archive https://archive.is/IGxwI Russia's aging, obsolete tanks are actually doing some serious damage in Ukraine, report says https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-aging-obsolete-tanks-actually-160800370.html
Sunday, May 28, 2023 7:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: From Simplicius the Thinker, vastly edited for brevity https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/latest-headlines-digest-the-wests There's more...a LOT more... but I didn't want to take the time to condense all of it.
Sunday, May 28, 2023 7:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Let's give it another two weeks, shall we? What "it" are we giving another two weeks? Two weeks until Ukraine launches it's offensive? Two weeks until SECOND answers the question? Please clarify.
Sunday, May 28, 2023 8:13 PM
Monday, May 29, 2023 6:08 AM
Monday, May 29, 2023 6:59 AM
Monday, May 29, 2023 9:20 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: “Schools have been ordered to conduct ‘patriotic’ classes parroting the Kremlin line on the war, and teachers who refuse have been fired,” wrote the Washington Post. “Textbooks are being purged of almost all references to Ukraine and its capital, Kyiv.”
Monday, May 29, 2023 11:21 PM
Quote: SITREP 5/29/23: Kiev Rocked as New Satellite Photos Prove Patriot Destruction Major things are in motion. The night before last Russia launched a massive drone attack on all regions of Ukraine.
Quote: It has been called by at least one source as the single largest drone attack of the entire SMO thus far, causing many people to speculate that Russia must now be producing Geran-2 drones at exponential rates as they have been using them at tremendous volumes of late. Every region has been hit and something very anomalous occurred in the capital city of Kiev. Every region has been hit and something very anomalous occurred in the capital city of Kiev. A huge explosion shook homes in the region, that at least one source says registered as a magnitude 3.4 on the Richter scale, and some experts estimated to be equivalent to at least a 100 ton ammo explosion.
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 12:22 AM
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 6:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: It's a good thing that Russia is running out of missiles!
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 8:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: SITREP 5/29/23: Kiev Rocked as New Satellite Photos Prove Patriot Destruction Major things are in motion. The night before last Russia launched a massive drone attack on all regions of Ukraine. It's a good thing that Russia is running out of missiles!
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 10:15 AM
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:48 PM
Quote: Major Drone Attack On Moscow Damages Several Apartment Buildings https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/major-drone-attack-damages-several-buildings-moscow
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Fuck Ukraine. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:57 PM
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 3:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I had a funny thought this AM while I was waking up: If you want to see how much Americans support Ukraine, try selling shares of it on Amazon. Yanno "Buy a share of Ukraine's war effort for $150" (which is so far the per-person cost of our aid to Ukraine). In that context people would ask themselves... "I spend $150 and what do I get for it, compared to, say, other things I could spend $150 on Amazon?" Some people would probably answer..."Well, I help preserve democracy in Europe" or "I help fight Russia", and they would plunk down $. But some (many?) would think ..."Well, nothing".
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 4:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Let's give it another two weeks, shall we? T
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 4:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I had a funny thought this AM while I was waking up: If you want to see how much Americans support Ukraine, try selling shares of it on Amazon. Yanno "Buy a share of Ukraine's war effort for $150" (which is so far the per-person cost of our aid to Ukraine). In that context people would ask themselves... "I spend $150 and what do I get for it, compared to, say, other things I could spend $150 on Amazon?" Some people would probably answer..."Well, I help preserve democracy in Europe" or "I help fight Russia", and they would plunk down $. But some (many?) would think ..."Well, nothing".Nobody had a fundraiser for H-bombs, but the US spent more than $10 trillion on nukes and it is all thanks to Russia endlessly threatening to nuke the US. It is time to pay Russia back by way of Ukraine. https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+threaten+to+nuke+US https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+spent+on+nuclear+weapons The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 5:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yeah, AFTER we flattened two cities with nuclear bombs. Yanno, none of the conventional explanations excuses for our first use of nukes make sense to me. Japan was ready to surrender. It didn't "shorten the war". The only explanation that matches the magnitude of our war crime was basically a warning shot across Russia's bow, since they were storming across Siberia and China, ready to take Japan. So we used Hiroshima and Nagasaki as examples of what we prepared to do to Russians, and the reason why we used two bombs was to make clear to the Russians that we had more than one IMHO that was just one of our MANY war crimes, and the start of the nuclear arms race. I don't post this for you SECOND, bc you're just a sociopath looking for a target to hate. I'm just correcting your revisionist history for the lurkers here.
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 5:43 PM
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 6:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If fire bombing is such a Big Deal, why do you keep harping on nukes? So shut up about nukes, already! Once again, you mess up your own argument. Another epic fail from a sociopath who can't even keep his lines of hate straight.
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 7:46 PM
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 8:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Seriously dood, stop harping about Russian nukes. They're not the ones who started this whole shit show, they're not the ones who put nukes on our borders, and they're not the ones who backed out of every agreement. Whatever happens, we're just reaping what we sowed.
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 8:34 PM
Tuesday, May 30, 2023 10:51 PM
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:09 AM
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 7:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND CHANGES TOPIC...AGAIN. Troll.
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:55 AM
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:25 AM
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND CHANGES TOPIC...AGAIN. Troll. SECOND: The topic is always the same: why do the US, UK, and the EU not stop Russia?
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND CHANGES TOPIC...AGAIN. Troll. SECOND: The topic is always the same: why do the US, UK, and the EU not stop Russia? Why should we? You haven't managed to give one convincing reason. You HAVE posted multiple "reasons" that cancel each other out or are demonstrably wrong. So far, the only thing you've proven is that nobody should listen to you, bc you post walls of lies. Troll
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND CHANGES TOPIC...AGAIN. Troll. SECOND: The topic is always the same: why do the US, UK, and the EU not stop Russia? SIGNY: Why should we? You haven't managed to give one convincing reason. You HAVE posted multiple "reasons" that cancel each other out or are demonstrably wrong. So far, the only thing you've proven is that nobody should listen to you, bc you post walls of lies. Troll SECOND: Think back to WWII. Japan invaded China in 1937 but not one Republican would vote for war with Japan. Germany invaded all of Europe in 1939 but not one Republican in Congress would vote for war with Germany. By 1942, Republicans even claimed that FDR had conspired to get the US into a war with Japan and Germany. The conspiracy theory was that FDR had tricked the USA into a War that was none of the USA's concern. Americans who vote for Republicans have always found reasons to not help when other countries are invaded and therefore it is no surprise when Americans who find Trump adequate would continue the long-standing Republican tradition of not helping when Russia invaded Ukraine.
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So now you'retrying to recruit that gut feeling that WWII was a "JUST WAR!" and that Republicans would have kept us from fighting a "JUST WAR!" First of all, if you look a the CAUSES of WWII, you'll see that: The USA's embargo of Japan, and Japan's need for oil, led them to attack the USA in an attempt to break our stranglehold. So, in a way, we were part of the problem. The WWI reparations payments that Germany owed was unspportable and led to economic collapse (people politely starving in their homes), hyperinflation, political chaos, and eventually nazism. Furthermore, whatever justice there was in fighting WWII in Europe, it was the SOVIETS that won. Our claims to being Europe's savior are 80% stolen valor. So, what's your excuse for trying to tie today's situation to WWII? Yanno, other than trying to elicit a knee-jerk reaction? The problem today, SECOND, IS US. If we're going to fix it, we have to start with us. Please see the edits in my previous post.
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:48 PM
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:57 PM
Quote: Russia Evacuates Children From Border Villages As Ukrainian Shelling Escalates Wednesday, May 31, 2023 - 11:40 AM In what's now becoming an alarming pattern of cross-border escalation, multiple civilians were injured in Russia's Belgorod region, just kilometers from Ukraine, due to large-scale shelling on Wednesday, presumably from Ukrainian forces. Local governor Vyacheslav Gladkov said at least four people had been injured. He described that situation in the border town of Shebekino has been "deteriorating" due to the "massive strike" from Ukrainian forces.
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:58 PM
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 3:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG:Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying. I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states.
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 4:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, so now you're going all the way back to the CIVIL WAR to find an excuse for your warmongering? Yanno, I could use Nazi Germany as an example and point out that there were a lot of Nazis there just like you. You've even got that whole "inferior race/people" thing going. The only thing missing is your swastika. Jeez, what a troll. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Thursday, June 1, 2023 5:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So I was thinking about why Germans put up with this shit. Their nation is occupoed by USA forces, their government doesn't get to make decisions, their media is controlled by the CIA, they've been forced to cross "red line" after red line supporting Ukraine (remember when they vowed to send only defensive equipment and shipped 5,000 helmets? HOW CUTE!). And - worse - their pipelines were blown u, and instead of demanding a full investigation, Chancellor Scholz meekly bowed his head to Bidens* ridiculous plan to shift blame, and Die Welt spread the ridiculous story that it was six folks and a boat. NO MORE GAS HEATERS! And, if you save up your meat ration you can look forward to having a big chicken-burger once every two weeks. Why aren't there protests? Why isn't there a change of government? I decided that Germany is just a long-term experiment in collective, generational guilt. There are probably all of five Germans who even remember WWII, and yet Germans are supposed to feel endless guilt far into the mists of time for something their grandparents did. (And Jews, with their endless victim complex, are just the one to make them pay... and pay.... and pay! If Germany owes reparations to anyone it's Russians. And yet Germans are still paying Jews! https://apnews.com/article/holocaust-survivor-compensation-fund-germany-0d35aa1cba7756d1b9b6008e9d7841b7) So now Germans feel guilty just for breathing. Kinda sounds like the whole "white guilt" that's being foisted on white Americans. Yanno, if you're prejudiced ... if you cut someonw out of a hiring list, or didn't give them a loan or rent an apartment JUST BECAUSE of their color, you should feel guilty for that. But for sure, don't feel guilty for something you didn't do.
Thursday, June 1, 2023 5:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, so now you're going all the way back to the CIVIL WAR to find an excuse for your warmongering? Yanno, I could use Nazi Germany as an example and point out that there were a lot of Nazis there just like you. You've even got that whole "inferior race/people" thing going. The only thing missing is your swastika. Jeez, what a troll.
Thursday, June 1, 2023 6:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The WWI reparations payments that Germany owed was unspportable and led to economic collapse (people politely starving in their homes), hyperinflation, political chaos, and eventually nazism. Furthermore, whatever justice there was in fighting WWII in Europe, it was the SOVIETS that won. If you want to credit anyone, give credit where it's due: Russia. Our claims to being Europe's savior are 80% stolen valor. So, what's your excuse for trying to tie today's situation to WWII? Yanno, other than trying to elicit a knee-jerk reaction? The problem today, SECOND, IS US. If we're going to fix the problem, we have to start with us. Troll Please see the edits in my previous post. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Thursday, June 1, 2023 7:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Originally posted by THG:Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying. I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states. I noticed that when SECOND gets his ass thoroughly handed to him, you step in with pure libel. So prove it, stupid troll.
Quote: Originally posted by THG:Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying. I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states.
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