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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Friday, May 9, 2025 11:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh...

Wait a minute....

All this time. You thought and you still think this is a one-vs-one conflict?

Oh. You poor thing.


Nah. We just sent millions of men to their death for some rich people in the US and other countries and sat back threw a few cargo ships worth of fiat currency at the problem.

No problem at all for us. Barely an inconvenience. We're already making those money printers go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR practically 24/7 already.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
If all they were fighting was Ukraine, that would have been over in three days tops.

Poor little Russia hasn't won after years of fighting the wealthy and enormous country called Ukraine because hordes of Nazis are fighting alongside the Ukrainians. That is the standard Russian excuse for why Russia has not won, yet.

Russian revisionism ahead of 9 May: ‘Modern Europe is reincarnated Nazism’
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/russian-revisionism-ahead-of-9-may-modern-europ
e-is-reincarnated-nazism
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Saturday, May 10, 2025 12:55 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
If all they were fighting was Ukraine, that would have been over in three days tops.

Poor little Russia hasn't won after years of fighting the wealthy and enormous country called Ukraine because hordes of Nazis are fighting alongside the Ukrainians. That is the standard Russian excuse for why Russia has not won, yet.

Russian revisionism ahead of 9 May: ‘Modern Europe is reincarnated Nazism’
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/russian-revisionism-ahead-of-9-may-modern-europ
e-is-reincarnated-nazism
/

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It would look as though I had already preemptively replied to your juvenile response...

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh...

Wait a minute....

All this time. You thought and you still think this is a one-vs-one conflict?

Oh. You poor thing.


Nah. We just sent millions of men to their death for some rich people in the US and other countries and sat back threw a few cargo ships worth of fiat currency at the problem.

No problem at all for us. Barely an inconvenience. We're already making those money printers go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR practically 24/7 already.

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Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:34 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

tick tock


Another one of THGR'S ridiculous predictions.

And that's bc THGR'S sources are tainted.

And G chimes right in..

Quote:


Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.


More tainted sources.

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Saturday, May 10, 2025 5:43 AM

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An isolated Putin, all alone. Nobody came to his party.



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Saturday, May 10, 2025 8:02 AM

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Ukraine prevented Russian forces from seizing any of their self-identified objectives in Ukraine over the past year, depriving Russian President Vladimir Putin of significant battlefield successes to celebrate on Victory Day.

Putin did not discuss the battlefield situation in Ukraine during Russia’s Victory Day celebrations in Moscow on May 8 and 9, but claimed that all of Russia supports Russian servicemembers fighting in Ukraine.[6]

Russian forces have not seized any significant towns in Ukraine since the seizure of Avdiivka in February 2024, and the only mid-sized settlement that Russian forces have seized in Ukraine since December 2024 is Velyka Novosilka (pre-war population of 5,000).[7]

Ukrainian sources previously reported that Russian forces were trying to seize Pokrovsk, Chasiv Yar, Toretsk, and the remaining area of Luhansk Oblast and advance into Dnipropetrovsk Oblast by Victory Day on May 9.[8] Russian forces did not accomplish any of those objectives, and have in fact been trying to seize Pokrovsk, Chasiv Yar, and Toretsk for roughly a year.[9]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-9-2025


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Saturday, May 10, 2025 8:06 AM

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Ukrainian Drones Patrol A 16-Mile Kill Zone.

‘If You Simply Drive On Any Roads, You Risk Your Life,’ One Russian Blogger Warned. However, Russian jamming could blunt the Ukrainian drone edge.

By David Axe | May 09, 2025, 04:22pm EDT

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/05/09/ukrainian-drones-patr
ol-a-16-mile-kill-zone-if-you-simply-drive-on-any-roads-you-risk-your-life-one-russian-blogger-warned
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Deploying millions of small explosive drones every month, Ukrainian forces have created a kill zone extending 16 miles behind the front line of Russia’s wider war on Ukraine.

Relentlessly striking troop formations, artillery, air-defense vehicles and—perhaps most importantly, supply lines—the drones have made life along the front line a nightmare for Russian troops.

“If you simply drive on any roads, you risk your life,” one Russian blogger wrote. “In principle, this has been the case for a year, since the spring of 2024, but now the frequency of attacks is much higher for the enemy.”

Ukrainian forces turned to small drones during the worst months of the prolonged ammunition shortage in early 2024. Now, a network of workshops all over Ukraine churns out more than 2 million small first-person-view drones—each weighing a few pounds and clutching a small warhead—every month.

The developers are constantly improving the drones with better warheads and jam-resistant controls, among other innovations.

In the 39th month of Russia’s wider war, the unmanned aerial vehicles now form a complex and constantly evolving system—one that has managed to stay ahead of Russian efforts to defeat it with armor, nets, shotguns and radio jammers.

“They fly in flocks,” the blogger explained, “with preliminary reconnaissance from aircraft-type UAVs.” Bomber drones lobbing small explosives back up the single-use explosive FPVs. And repeater drones, which capture and relay radio signals, extend the range of the smallest drones from just a few miles to 10 or more.

The Russians deploy millions of drones every month, too, but Ukrainian jamming is generally superior—and can ground many radio-controlled drones. Fiber-optic drones, controlled via signals traveling along miles-long fibers, are more difficult to defeat.

But fiber-optic drones are expensive, costing thousands of dollars apiece, compared to just hundreds of dollars for a wireless drone. And Ukraine’s long-range strike drones have been bombarding Russia’s fiber-optics factories in order to suppress production of these unjammable drones.

A new and more powerful Russian jammer called Black Eyes could shift the aerial balance of power over the front line. Serhii “Flash” Beskrestnov, a leading Ukrainian drone expert, called Black Eyes “dangerous.”

But the Ukrainians appreciate the risk—and have been hunting down the Black Eyes using specially-equipped FPV drones that communicate on non-standard frequencies that the Black Eyes can’t reliably block.

The result, for now, is that Ukraine has a drone advantage. That helps explain why, in recent months, Russian advances in eastern Ukraine have slowed to a crawl—and Russian casualties have increased.

The next step for Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces, the independent military service overseeing the country’s millions of drones, may be to further extend the depth of the robotic kill zone.

The goal, according to analyst Andrew Perpetua, should be to add “layers of drone superiority” extending as far as 60 miles from the front line. Four times the current depth.

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Saturday, May 10, 2025 9:52 AM

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Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
09 May 2024

• In April 2025, Russian territorial gains in Ukraine continued at a significantly decreased rate relative to late 2024.

• Russian Ground Forces (RGF) highly likely seized approximately 200 sq km of Ukrainian territory in April 2025, an average of approximately 6 sq km per day. This is only a slight increase on the approximately 150 sq km Russian forces seized in March 2025, which was the lowest total observed since June 2024.

• Throughout April, RGF made tactical gains around Pokrovsk - the key Ukrainian logistics hub which supports operations in the Donbas. Pokrovsk has likely remained the priority axis for Russia in its campaign but it has been unable to make any notable advances around the city since late 2024.

• While Russia conducts its Victory Day commemorations on 09 May 2025 for its role in what Russia calls the 'Great Patriotic War', Ukrainian forces highly likely continue to conduct limited kinetic operations in Russia's Kursk border region. Ukraine's incursion into Kursk, in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, is the first time since the Second World War that foreign troops have conducted operations in Russian territory.

https://x.com/DefenceHQ/status/1920832638874431502

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Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:10 PM

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Ukrainian sources previously reported that Russian forces were trying to seize Pokrovsk, Chasiv Yar, Toretsk, and the remaining area of Luhansk Oblast and advance into Dnipropetrovsk Oblast by Victory Day on May 9.



First, about your sources. Understanding War is published by the ISW. The ISW is a Kagan-Nuland (husband- wife) think tank. And we all know that "fuck the EU" Nuland was a prime promoter of the Maidan coup and that both are arch neocons.
Right?

Second, they managed two lies in one sentence. That's quite an achievement!

"Ukrainian sources" have no more of an idea than you about Russia's tactical plans.

And Toretsk is +100% controlled by Russia, Chasov Yar 95%,0and Russian troops have already entered Dnipropetrovsk oblast.

Sigh.

Correcting even just a few of your lies is tedious.

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Putin destroyed Russia's future

Putin and his entire nation have become hostages to a profoundly miscalculated war

By Owen Matthews | May 10, 2025 2:00 pm

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/putin-destroyed-russias-future-his-own-
legacy-3685904


. . . Modern Russians, like their grandparents, must watch what they say and face imprisonment for disagreeing with the Party line — for instance, by calling the Ukraine invasion a war instead of a “special military operation.”

Television is once again pure propaganda, and thousands of Russian dissidents try to rebuild their lives in exile in the West.

Do ordinary Russians truly believe the Kremlin’s messaging that Kyiv is run by liberal Fascists and that Putin is saving them from a hostile takeover by the West?

“The Russian people have always been spectators of their country’s politics,” observes the poet and critic Dmitry Bykov — in exile in the US since being labelled a “foreign agent” by the Russian state in 2022.

“It’s like a theatre … today’s Russian does what is expected of him. Sometimes he applauds, sometimes he wolf-whistles. But he is not required to actually believe.

“Everyone knows that the man on the stage is not Prince Hamlet but Laurence Olivier. Nobody believes that what is happening on the stage is actually true. But [after the Ukraine invasion], the theatre is coming more like a circus. The people are not stupid. They watch and laugh nervously and see how low the actors will go.”

Putin himself believes that he is the saviour of his country. Asked recently by the BBC’s Steve Rosenberg whether he had looked after Russia as Yeltsin had once exhorted him, Putin’s reply was defiant. “I have not only looked after Russia but rather we have pulled back from the brink of an abyss,” said Putin at his annual press conference last December. “We were heading to a total loss of sovereignty, and without sovereignty, Russia cannot exist as an independent state.”

Putin did not explain who he believed was threatening Russia, how, or why. For most of his quarter-century in power Western countries have been all too happy to make money in partnership with Russia, either by selling its people goods and services or, in the case of Germany, building an entire economic model based on reliable supplies of cheap Russian natural gas.

Until, of course, Putin crashed those economic ties when he decided to try to effect regime change in Kyiv. And for the whole period of Putin’s ascendancy everything about Russia — from Putin’s rising great power fantasies to the famous stability of his regime — has been underpinned by high world oil prices, an economic factor that had nothing to do with the Kremlin and was entirely outside its control.

Yeltsin headed a Russian state that was bankrupt as long as oil was trading at just $12 (£9) a barrel. Under Putin, the price rose past $100 (£75) – and both his own billionaire cronies and ordinary Russians reaped the benefits of that long cycle of prosperity.

Now, though, oil prices are falling back towards 1990s levels, and Russia’s war and sanctions-strained economy is starting to creak at the seams.

Both Putin and his entire nation have become hostages to a profoundly miscalculated war that the Kremlin believed would be over in three days but has now cost close to a million Russian casualties. Putin has exploited a deep vein of Russian nationalism that existed before he came to power.

But there is no such thing as Putinism — only a chimerical mixture of religious ethno-nationalism, a paranoiac, millenarian fear of foreign interference, and kleptocracy. Not only will Putin leave no lasting ideological legacy, but any legacy of prosperity and stability that he may have created has been destroyed by his own decision to wage war on Ukraine.

He has gained a fifth of Ukraine’s territory, at a terrible cost, and increased the size of Russia by half a per cent. The price of his illusions was not only thousands of lost lives, but also a lost future for Russia.

Owen Matthews is Russia correspondent at the ‘Spectator’ magazine, former Moscow bureau chief at ‘Newsweek‘ and the author of ‘Overreach: The Inside Story of Putin’s War Against Ukraine‘ Download the book for free from the mirrors at https://libgen.rs/search.php?req=Owen+Matthews

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From 2019

Putin Welcomes Stalin Back to the Pantheon: A New Russian Patriotism Embraces the Soviet Past

By Andrei Kolesnikov | October 1, 2019
Senior Fellow and Chair of the Russian Domestic Politics and Political Institutions Program at the Carnegie Moscow Center.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russian-federation/2019-10-01/
putin-welcomes-stalin-back-pantheon


On November 10, 1982, the Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev died. The editors of Pravda, the country’s main newspaper, confronted something of a dilemma. A black frame would surround the front page to indicate mourning. But how thick should it be—the same size as for mere mortals, or special in some way? Eventually, someone thought to look in the newspaper’s archives to see what size had been used when Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin died, in 1953. The paper used precisely the same frame to announce Brezhnev’s death.

This thick black quadrangle continues to hold Russian and Soviet history captive, bounding current understanding with myths about the past. The country’s politicians are obsessed by Soviet glories. They have declared themselves heirs to all the victories of their socialist predecessors—whether on the battlefield, in space, or in feats of engineering. This history is really that of the state and its war machine, rather than that of the nation.

For many ordinary Russians, national pride remains fixed within this Soviet matrix. Among historical achievements, some of the most popular are the territorial acquisitions of the imperial and Soviet eras—not to mention the post-Soviet annexation of Crimea. This latter addition boosted Russian President Vladimir Putin’s approval ratings: many saw it as a restoration of long-lost Soviet military glory.

Putin in his speeches frequently compares his achievements to the victories and acquisitions of the Soviet past. The message is clear: whether Soviet or not, the country is in the same position as it once was.

THE POLITICS OF THE PAST

Russian officialdom has lately developed an enormous appetite—bordering on patriotic hysteria—for historical politics. The interest is partly linked to the 80th anniversary of 1939, the year World War II broke out in Europe. Among the crucial events of that year for the Soviet Union was the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, in which Stalin and the German Führer Adolf Hitler concocted secret plans to divide the European mainland between themselves. The two dictators split up Poland, an act that, in the long run, drove the United Kingdom and France to enter the conflict. Less than a month after the start of hostilities, Stalin and Hitler signed yet another accord: the German-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, which delineated spheres of influence between the two powers and gave Stalin the military flexibility along his western frontier to start the Winter War with Finland.

Soviet leaders took 50 years to admit to the existence of the secret protocols. When they did so, they also admitted that they were a mistake: in a 1989, the era of President Mikhail Gorbachev, the Congress of People’s Deputies denounced the actions of their predecessors—among them, the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan in 1979 and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

Russian officialdom has lately developed an enormous appetite for historical politics.

So it may come as some surprise that in recent months, articles have appeared in Russia reclaiming the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact as a feat of Soviet diplomacy. Vladimir Medinsky, Russia’s minister of culture, and Sergei Naryshkin, the head of foreign intelligence—as well as steward of the Russian Historical Society—have both made statements to this effect. Medinsky practically denounced the 1989 conference as a terrible misstep. What is more, deputies of the current Russian parliament have spoken out to justify the Soviet Union’s Afghan adventure.

Because of the historic tension between Russia and Poland, reignited by statements like the ones above, Polish authorities did not invite Putin to Warsaw for ceremonies commemorating the start of World War II. Russian political figures, like the Speaker of the Parliament Vyacheslav Volodin and former Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov, responded by attacking Polish leaders and labeling Poland a “satellite” of the United States.

The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is perhaps the most florid, but not the only, contentious piece of Soviet history that Russian authorities have looked to rehabilitate. The country’s Military Historical Society—under Medinsky’s de facto control—has begun excavation work in the Sandarmokh forest in Karelis, near the Finnish border, where Stalin’s secret police shot and buried Soviet political opponents en masse. The aim of the excavations? To show that in fact the victims were not dissenters but Red Army prisoners of war—executed not by the Soviets but by the Finns.

STALINIZING HISTORY

In Russia, World War II is known as the Great Patriotic War, and the Soviet victory is the glue of the nation. No one can doubt the feats of the Red Army or the enormous sacrifice of the Soviet people. But mythologizing that victory has come to entail glorifying Stalin. In recent years, TV propagandists have represented World War II not only as a war with Nazi Germany but as a battle against the West. Russians remember the role of the Allies less and less. Meanwhile, the ritual celebration of Victory Day on May 9 grows in pomp and ceremony with every passing year. Putin has used the fête to strengthen his authority. He has essentially privatized the victory and become its living symbol, although he was born seven years after the war ended.

Russia is neither practically nor formally the legal successor of the Soviet Union. It is a new state formed on democratic principles. But under Putin, the Russian Federation appears to be the direct heir to the Soviet Union. When senior officials say “we,” they mean the Soviet Union, too. Even the bloody repressions of the Stalin era no longer seem so dreadful to ordinary Russians. In sociological polls, respondents increasingly say that these actions were “politically justified.”

The reason for declaring the Russian Federation a successor to this mythical Soviet Union is simple: the Putin regime—which has now ruled the country for 20 years—has no history or achievements of its own, other than turning a democratic state into an authoritarian one and burning through colossal reserves of petrodollars.

Russia did enjoy an economic upsurge in the early 2000s, but not because of Putin. Rather, oil prices were high, and Russia had made a successful transition to a market economy, thanks to a process that the reformer Yegor Gaidar had set into motion in the early 1990s. Full credit, however, must go to Putin for the current economic downturn, which is a consequence of Russia’s self-imposed isolation under his leadership, as well as his increasing the state’s role in the economic system. And so the current regime is forced to make do with the achievements of the bygone Soviet era, which are largely fictitious, thanks to the use of official statistics to warp reality.

Russia is neither practically nor formally the legal successor of the Soviet Union.

Official history is being Sovietized—or rather, Stalinized. The Stalin regime’s achievements have become a source of pride. And all of a sudden, officials rush to defend the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and the Winter War, when, in fact, these were utterly catastrophic decisions that sent many to their graves.

Whoever controls the historical narrative controls the nation. What is more, the leaders of nations tend to look to the past for an image of the future. In Russia’s case, the image they see is that of a harshly authoritarian state, both militarized and ideologized, controlling the economy, politics, and even people’s souls. The Russian elite can justly be described as the grandchildren of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

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Kremlin officials have recently intensified their engagement with Western media in an effort to message directly to the Trump administration and American public and portray Russia's terms for Ukraine's surrender as reasonable.[10]

Putin's May 11 press conference and Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov's recent interviews with Western media are part of an attempt to inject Kremlin narratives into the Western information space aimed at convincing the West that Russia is able to conquer all of Ukraine militarily and scaring Ukraine and the West into conceding to Russia's demands.[11]

Putin's rhetorical posturing is an attempt to conceal limitations in the Russian military's capabilities and distract from Russia's failure to make any significant progress on the battlefield over the last two years. Putin and other Kremlin officials firmly maintain their war aims that amount to Ukraine's full capitulation and have thus far refused to consider any peace deal that does not concede to all of Russia's demands.[12]

The Kremlin is falsely portraying itself as willing to engage in good-faith negotiations with Ukraine while continuing to attack frontline Ukrainian positions and setting conditions for further military aggression against Ukraine and NATO in the coming years.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-11-2025


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Sunday, May 11, 2025 9:30 PM

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More bullshit from arch neocons Kagan and Nuland, SECOND?

For the first time ever, Putin used the term "war" to describe events in Ukraine. It was mentioned that even if Putin only upgrades the SMO to an anti-terror operation, that would free the Russian army to do things they haven't done before, like go after political leaders.

There are two armies of professional soldiers in Russian reserve, fully trained, equipped and ready to go. Each 125,000 men. The airspace above the Oreshnik missile launch point is clear of civilian aircraft.

Do the neocon hawk-'tards know this?


What Putin counterproposed to the EU's ultimatum was direct negotiations with Ukraine in Istanbul starting Thursday. Russia is sending its negotiating team there and will be waiting for a corresponding delegation from Kiev.


*****

The one thing Putin made a point of doing was excluding Trump from the list of potential enemies. Putin thanked all of the "global south" nations that tried to help negotiate a peace treaty, and added Trump to that list.


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Sunday, May 11, 2025 9:43 PM

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French Media Rushes To Quash Claims Macron, Merz & Starmer Caught Hiding Cocaine On Kiev-Bound Train
Sunday, May 11, 2025 - 09:00 AM

French media are on the defensive after journalists unexpectedly entered a train carriage carrying French President Emmanuel Macron, along with the German and British Prime Ministers, en route to Kyiv on Friday, which sparked a firestorm on social media with allegations of cocaine use by the top leaders.

"They [social media users] cite videos that allegedly show Emmanuel Macron discreetly hiding a strange white bag on the table," the French daily newspaper Libération said, adding, "And according to these accounts, Friedrich Merz even had a straw to use to take drugs. These conspiracy accusations fit with the narrative that Western elites are depraved and approach war unconsciously."

When reporters entered the room, Macron was meeting with German Chancellor Friedrich Merz and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer on a train ride from Poland to Ukraine.



IMHO, after seeing the video, I can't think of any other possible explanation. How else to explain the items and furtive actions?

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1921568553553240099

Persistent allegations that Z is a coke-head, too. If so, sounds like Hitler high on amphetamines.

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Sunday, May 11, 2025 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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French Media Rushes To Quash Claims Macron, Merz & Starmer Caught Hiding Cocaine On Kiev-Bound Train
Sunday, May 11, 2025 - 09:00 AM

French media are on the defensive after journalists unexpectedly entered a train carriage carrying French President Emmanuel Macron, along with the German and British Prime Ministers, en route to Kyiv on Friday, which sparked a firestorm on social media with allegations of cocaine use by the top leaders.

"They [social media users] cite videos that allegedly show Emmanuel Macron discreetly hiding a strange white bag on the table," the French daily newspaper Libération said, adding, "And according to these accounts, Friedrich Merz even had a straw to use to take drugs. These conspiracy accusations fit with the narrative that Western elites are depraved and approach war unconsciously."

When reporters entered the room, Macron was meeting with German Chancellor Friedrich Merz and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer on a train ride from Poland to Ukraine.



IMHO, after seeing the video, I can't think of any other possible explanation. How else to explain the items and furtive actions?

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1921568553553240099

Persistent allegations that Z is a coke-head, too. If so, sounds like Hitler high on amphetamines.

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Holy shit.

That awkward silence too. I love that nobody tried to fill it and just let them keep going.

All handsy with themselves the whole time like their seats are on fire. So weird.

You see Macron try a little slight of hand right at the end there? That never fooled any cops when my idiot buddies tried hiding their weed after getting caught, and it ain't fooling anybody watching that on repeat in HD today.

David Blane they are not.

Is anybody reporting on this? First I've heard about it.

Trump should have a lot of fun with this one tomorrow.



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Monday, May 12, 2025 12:47 AM

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I'm watching it again now...

He SNATCHED that motherfucker. Not right away... but boy... when he went for it, there was not any subtlety to the motion until after he had it in his hand and right at the edge of the table, was there? And the deadly silence falls over the room more or less for the next 5 seconds after that...

Actual question because I really don't know... do any of these three guys behave like this usually? Any nervous ticks and what not? Because I bet if you had a camera under that table you'd see at least 3 legs bouncing about 200 times per minute right now too.

If that was a napkin, the only way he behaved like that putting it away was because it had some poor schumck's blackmail ejaculate on it. Maybe it belonged to the guy on the left that walked in late. He seemed like he was just as nervous as the other two despite the fact he just got there. Maybe instead of a coke straw the other guy on the right had the pair of tweezers he used to pull it out of whatever he was hiding it in. Don't know where the bag or bottle is in that event, but these guys look so fucking nervous it was probably sitting in one of their pockets and poor macron had to soil himself on the spot.

In that case, I do hope anybody who shook Macron's hand happened to wash their hands before they rubbed their eyes or they might be waking up tomorrow with a nasty case of pink eye.





I'm telling you what... if you hear anybody close to Macron getting pink eye in the next few days, I"m going to start referring to myself as Mohammad.
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From 2020:

A Coercive History Lesson From Vladimir Putin: Triumphalism Replaces Reckoning as Russia Remembers the Soviet Past

By Andrei Kolesnikov | October 29, 2020
Senior Fellow and Chair of the Russian Domestic Politics and Political Institutions Program at the Carnegie Moscow Center.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/europe/2020-10-29/coercive-his
tory-lesson-vladimir-putin


To mark the first day back at school on September 1, Russian schoolchildren received an online lesson from none other than President Vladimir Putin. He chose the subject of history, which has in recent years become close to his heart. His specific focus was a topic he has been talking about obsessively for almost a year now: the rewriting of Russian history, in particular that of World War II.

Putin is primarily concerned with two issues. One is the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Third Reich and the Soviet Union, which Western historians have long believed “paved the way for the outbreak of the Second World War.” Putin holds that Stalin had no choice but to sign the pact with Germany. The other is the decisive role that the Soviet Union played in defeating the Nazis, which Putin believes other nations fail adequately to recognize.

If these were the views of a private individual, others could simply agree or disagree with them. But when a head of state presses them repeatedly, they become national ideological dogma. So far as the security services of an authoritarian state are concerned, they are nothing short of a call for action.

“People who cooperate with the enemy during a war are called and have always and everywhere been called collaborationists. Those who agree with the rewriters of history can easily be called the collaborationists of today,” Putin said during the public lesson on September 1. And sure enough, Russia’s Investigative Committee, a federal body with far-reaching powers, took no time at all in establishing a new department to investigate crimes related to the rehabilitation of Nazism and the falsification of history. The hunt for historical “collaborationists” is on.

History’s Avengers

Under Russian law, the rehabilitation of Nazism is a crime. But what criteria investigative bodies will use to assess the “rewriting of history,” and how they will punish those found guilty of it, remains unclear. Alexander Bastrykin, the head of the Investigative Committee and a friend of Putin’s from his St. Petersburg days, has defined such infractions as “attempts to put equal responsibility for the outbreak of war on Nazi criminals and on the Allied countries,” such as the Soviet Union.

By criminalizing certain interpretations of history, Putin is taking aim less at the West than at domestic figures, who, faced with the threat of prosecution, will hesitate to digress from the official narrative of the pre–World War II Soviet Union, for example. Similarly, when the committee opens criminal investigations into events abroad—as it did in the Czech Republic in April, when municipal authorities in Prague removed the city’s monument to the Soviet war hero Marshal Ivan Konev—the message to ordinary Russians is the real object. Look how little they like us in the West: they defile the memory of our victory and our heroes.

The atmosphere in today’s Russia encourages the vindication of Stalinism and its atrocities.

By creating a new department to avenge history in this manner, the Kremlin risks criminalizing the work of professional historians. There were already incidents shading in that direction: in 2018, the Ministry of Justice classified as extremist an article by the historian Kirill Alexandrov about the Ukrainian nationalist leader Stepan Bandera, despite the fact that the article made no attempt to justify Bandera’s actions during World War II. Alexandrov was to receive a doctoral degree in 2017, but the Ministry of Education and Science withheld it on political grounds: he had written his dissertation about soldiers who joined a collaborationist unit during World War II.

Anything and everything to do with the Great Patriotic War, as Russians refer to World War II, is extremely sensitive for the Russian leadership. The memory of victory in that war is one of the few remaining bonds to hold the Russian nation together and legitimize the Putin regime as the heir to great triumphant ancestors. Putin has gone so far as to enshrine his fight against the falsification of history in the constitution by passing amendments to that effect this summer (alongside his better-known move to reset the clock on presidential terms, allowing himself to stay in power beyond 2024).

Stalin’s Revival

The trouble with this new official historical discourse is that it implicitly vindicates Stalin and Stalinism. To criticize Putin’s version of history is to criticize the sacred memory of the war, and to criticize Stalin is to detract from public appreciation of Russia’s victory in that war. This paradigm is precisely the one on which the Soviet regime under Leonid Brezhnev built its official propaganda. Stirring up unpleasantness around repression under Stalin was the dirty business of dissidents: Stalin was above all to be remembered as the leader who won the war.

The revival of this narrative has already begun to expunge important chapters of Russian history from public discussion. Scholars, writers, and the public no longer explore the Winter War that Stalin unleashed against Finland in 1939. They don’t consider Stalin’s shameless cooperation with Hitler, which included holding joint parades and handing over German antifascists to the Nazis. They can’t talk about details of the occupation of the Baltic states or the invasion of Poland in accordance with the secret protocols to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and under the pretext of liberating Ukrainian and Belarusian “brothers” there.

There will likely be little further scholarship on the Soviet secret police’s shooting of more than 20,000 Polish officers in Katyn in 1940. Earlier propaganda had suggested that it was the Germans who executed the Poles in Katyn. Putin himself once debunked that notion. But now the idea has resurfaced in an article that the official state agency, RIA Novosti, published in March. Moreover, this spring, the prosecutor’s office in Tver ordered the removal of memorial plaques from a building in whose basement Stalin’s death squads had executed more than 6,000 Poles.

Russia needs to restore, rather than erase, the memory of the millions of victims of totalitarianism.

The atmosphere in today’s Russia encourages the vindication of Stalinism and its atrocities. By simplifying and mythologizing history, the Russian president is encouraging the deterioration of public knowledge of historical events. Historical discourse that was once marginal is becoming mainstream, with the state’s endorsement. Those who commemorate the victims of repression face official persecution. The historian Yury Dmitriev, for example, discovered a mass grave of victims of political repression in Karelia, in northern Russia. This summer he was sentenced to three and a half years’ imprisonment for pedophilia—a charge widely believed to be a vengeful fabrication. The prosecutor’s office appealed the sentence as too lenient, and the Karelian Supreme Court added another nine and a half years. The Ministry of Justice has labeled Memorial, a nongovernmental organization that for several decades has heroically and painstakingly pieced together Stalin-era crimes, as a “foreign agent,” and one court after another has ravaged it with fines. Such is the context in which the Investigative Committee intends to punish people for “knowingly spreading false information about the deeds of the U.S.S.R.”

While Russia’s Investigative Committee was thinking up new ways to combat historical dissidence, parliamentarians in Spain began debate over a new draft law on “democratic memory.” The Spanish law, which has come under fierce criticism, includes “a plan to recover the remains of victims of the civil war and setting up a special prosecutor to investigate human-rights abuses from 1936 to 1978.”

If and when Russia transitions from Putin’s authoritarianism to democracy, it should look to Spain’s example. Russia needs to restore, rather than erase, the memory of the millions of victims of totalitarianism and cease putting it in competition with the memory of those who fell in battle in World War II. Promoting that false opposition is a deliberate tactic to deepen the national divide.

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Monday, May 12, 2025 2:54 PM

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Quote:

Putin is primarily concerned with two issues FACTS. One is the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Third Reich and the Soviet Union, which Western historians have long believed “paved the way for the outbreak of the Second World War.” Putin holds that Stalin had no choice but to sign the pact with Germany. The other is the decisive role that the Soviet Union played in defeating the Nazis, which Putin believes other nations fail adequately to recognize.
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Since both of these are true facts, what's the problem?

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Monday, May 12, 2025 4:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Putin is primarily concerned with two issues FACTS. One is the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Third Reich and the Soviet Union, which Western historians have long believed “paved the way for the outbreak of the Second World War.” Putin holds that Stalin had no choice but to sign the pact with Germany. The other is the decisive role that the Soviet Union played in defeating the Nazis, which Putin believes other nations fail adequately to recognize.
.

Since both of these are true facts, what's the problem?

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If Ukrainians surrendered to Putin, no Ukrainians would have died, not even the top-most Nazis who would flee to the EU. That's story Putin tells about his little Russians of Ukraine. In a similar situation, Russians died by the tens of millions because they, foolishly, did not surrender to Hitler. With the Atom bomb, the USA could have beat Hitler without any help from any Russians. All those Russians deaths were pointless. Russia should have immediately surrendered, or Russians should have fled eastward into the safety of Siberia, but that is not the story Putin wants to tell.

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Monday, May 12, 2025 5:54 PM

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Second's delusions are so much more interesting than Teds are, Sigs.

You can tell that at one point Second was probably highly intelligent before the brain trauma, so it's kind of fascinating watching how his broken brain functions over the span of a decade.

Ted is just the same 65 IQ dumb shit Ted always was. Look at him go with those political cartoons again today after I ripped him 8 new assholes last night.



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Monday, May 12, 2025 6:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Putin is primarily concerned with two issues FACTS. One is the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Third Reich and the Soviet Union, which Western historians have long believed “paved the way for the outbreak of the Second World War.” Putin holds that Stalin had no choice but to sign the pact with Germany. The other is the decisive role that the Soviet Union played in defeating the Nazis, which Putin believes other nations fail adequately to recognize.
.

Since both of these are true facts, what's the problem?

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If Ukrainians surrendered to Putin, no Ukrainians would have died, not even the top-most Nazis who would flee to the EU. That's story Putin tells about his little Russians of Ukraine.



If Ukraine has just implemented the Minsk Agreement, Donetsk and Luhansk would still be in Ukraine, Russian speaking people (the majority) there would have had their rights protected (instead of being shelled by Nazis), they would have been able to elect their own governors, everyone would have been happy and millions of Ukrainians would still be in Ukraine instead of displaced or dead

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In a similar situation..


Similar to what? Ukrainians, like the Nazis before them, negotiating in bad faith?

I have no idea what you're tryingto say.

You probably don't either.



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Monday, May 12, 2025 6:56 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Second's delusions are so much more interesting than Teds are, Sigs.

You can tell that at one point Second was probably highly intelligent before the brain trauma, so it's kind of fascinating watching how his broken brain functions over the span of a decade.

Ted is just the same 65 IQ dumb shit Ted always was. Look at him go with those political cartoons again today after I ripped him 8 new assholes last night.



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Sad, innit?

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Tuesday, May 13, 2025 6:42 AM

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Signym, why don't you explain that this story is completely in error because the MH17 crash was not Russia's responsibility? Russia says MH17 crashed because Ukraine shot it down, and that will forever be Putin's only explanation for what happened.

MH17 air disaster: Russia found responsible for downing plane

https://www.dw.com/en/un-body-finds-russia-responsible-for-downed-mh17
-flight/a-72523668


Eight years after the incident, a Dutch court convicted two Russian men and a Ukrainian man, in absentia, of murder for their role in the attack. Moscow has refused to extradite its citizens, calling the ruling "scandalous."

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