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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gas prices by me were under $2 last night for the first time in over two years.

COVID is awesome.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The buss transmission could be from grabbing the headrests/handbars while entering/exiting, and cornering while moving. That would explain a lot of that diagram.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/article241036141.html

Authorities say 19 of the deaths in Washington are associated with the Life Care Center of Kirkland, Washington.

Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/article241036141.html#storylink=cpy

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/article241036141.html

Authorities say 19 of the deaths in Washington are associated with the Life Care Center of Kirkland, Washington.

Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/article241036141.html#storylink=cpy

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"19 of the deaths in Washington"?

JSF said there are 19 deaths in the US period.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/article241036141.html

Authorities say 19 of the deaths in Washington are associated with the Life Care Center of Kirkland, Washington.

Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/article241036141.html#storylink=cpy

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"19 of the deaths in Washington"?

JSF said there are 19 deaths in the US period.

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As of six hours ago, the known USA death toll was 26. You keep treating the pandemic like a static situation instaed of the rapidly-evolving one that it is, so you'll have to keep up when a situation changes by the hour, and sometimes by the minute.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I've been posting metrics from 2 different websites, and quite often they disagree by 40 or more, depending on when the sites get updated.

This site only gets updated once every few hours
As of March 10, 2020 at 14:46 GMT, there have been 729 confirmed cases and 27 deaths due to coronavirus COVID-19 in the United States

and this one gets updated continuously.
Total Confirmed
761

By the time my normal posting time rolls around, they'll be much closer in terms of cases. Neither one is lying, one is just more timely. At the moment however, they're both reporting 27 deaths.

You're smarter than that, to let a simple thing like rapidly changing numbers and updating lag trip you up.

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Leaked Covid-19 Documents: Hospitals Prep For 96 Million Infections & 480K Deaths

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Leaked medical conference documents have warned that hospitals across the United States are preparing for 96 million coronavirus infections. Not only that, but the same document wants hospitals to make preparations for 480,000 deaths from this outbreak.

the American Hospital Association (AHA) conference in February reveal that US hospitals are preparing for:

96 million coronavirus infections

4.8 million hospitalizations from the infection

480,000 deaths in the United States



According to Business Insider, these leaked documents are telling. Dr. James Lawler, a professor at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, presented the harrowing “best guess” estimates of the extent of the outbreak to hospitals and health professionals as part of the AHA webinar called What Healthcare Leaders Need to Know: Preparing for the COVID-19 on February 26.

These documents paint a bleaker picture for those who are over the age of 60. According to the leaked documents:

"People aged 80 and over have a 14.8% chance of dying if they contract the infection, the slides revealed. The risk declines with youth, though those aged 70-79 and 60-69 are still placed at a significant risk, with 8% and 3.6% mortality rates respectively." –Business Insider

Additionally, it’s worth noting that Dr. Lawler’s estimate of 480,000 deaths would indicate a death rate of just half a percent (0.5%), which is significantly lower than death rates being reported by the WHO (3.4%) and the nation of Italy (5%). If the death rate in the United States reached just 2% while 96 million Americans are infected, that would result in 1.92 million deaths.

The United States has fewer than one million hospital beds, and they are typically around 75% occupied by existing patients, unrelated to the coronavirus. Natural News has calculated that U.S. hospital beds will be overrun by May 30th if nothing is done to stop the exponential spread of the coronavirus.

Mike Adams, aka, the Health Ranger at Natural News, has a new video out presenting the math and statistics found in these leaked documents.

"If you want to die, heed the advice of Mike Pence and do nothing to prepare for the pandemic. The Surgeon General also hopes you stop buying protecting gear so that you get infected and die more quickly, thereby making more protective equipment available to the government which is stockpiling like mad at this very minute." –Mike Adams, Natural News

As Alt-Market's Brandon Smith notes, it is also likely that hospitals are prepping for only 480,000 deaths because that is the maximum number of terminally ill patients their facilities can handle anyway.

If Italy is any indication and this virus does not burn out soon, the death rate will probably be between 3%-5%. The real number of infected versus dead will not be accurately calculated for another year at least...

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The buss transmission could be from grabbing the headrests/handbars while entering/exiting, and cornering while moving. That would explain a lot of that diagram.

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That doesn't explain the people ahead of him. Presumably they exited before he did since he was in the back of the bus, and on the bus for the whole ride.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My old man said he saw on the news that 15 people died the other day in an old folks home in Seattle from COVID.

I told him that I've heard no such thing. JSF is saying that there are 19 confirmed deaths, just like I read the other day as well.

Has anybody heard this old folks home story?


I told him not to believe anything the news is saying about any of this until at least a week later because they don't do any due diligence and just report on anything that stokes TDS before they figure out if there is any truth to it or not.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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The spreader was sick when he got on. If he touched the headrest/handbar on his 2nd or 3rd step (regain balance - and folk with ear/nose/throat issues can be off-balance), that is reasonable. If a 2nd-row passenger got on after him, got back on after him (after toileting), they could have touched the same spot after he did. Or have been sitting in the seat where he touched the headrest/handbar.
With many folk of the same community perhaps being similar size and stride, touching the same one spot is not all that unusual.

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The spreader was sick when he got on. If he touched the headrest/handbar on his 2nd or 3rd step (regain balance - and folk with ear/nose/throat issues can be off-balance), that is reasonable. If a 2nd-row passenger got on after him, got back on after him (after toileting), they could have touched the same spot after he did. Or have been sitting in the seat where he touched the headrest/handbar.
With many folk of the same community perhaps being similar size and stride, touching the same one spot is not all that unusual.

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Well, they indicated that they have video. So if they say aerosol, I'd think they're the ones in the best position to determine that.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yes. Do a lot of research yourself about fake research that fake people did about a fake virus, JSF.

Or just drop it and let people live with their delusions. You or anybody you care about will never get AIDS because AIDS doesn't get anybody.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
FWIW, I did go to the local hardware store today to pick up some things, and I was going to buy some masks for some upcoming drywall work/mudding/sanding down the pipe and they're completely out of stock.

I won't need them for a while and I'm sure they'll be back in stock, but I got a chuckle out of that.

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I'd go along with the concept of aerosol, but I'd be reticent to bet the farm on the assumption.

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That sampling of rooms of infected patients had only 2 spot tested which were not positive, and they were both in the bathroom. The air samples were all nada.

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The toilet BOWL was positive. I just get the sense that shared surface contact is much more prevalent as cause than many folk are realizing.

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Also, I am not in Wuhan. I am not in WA. I am not withing 120 miles of a known case.

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I was just positing an observation.

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I encourage learned individuals to ignore my input on this matter.

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‘Containment Area’ Is Ordered for New Rochelle Coronavirus Cluster

Schools and other buildings in the city, the center of the state’s outbreak, will be shut, and the National Guard will help distribute food and clean.

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Coronavirus spreading rapidly in California, from airports to elder-care facilities


By Anita Chabria, Colleen Shalby, Melody Gutierrez, Taryn Luna
March 11, 2020
8:43 AM
SACRAMENTO —

With coronavirus cases spreading rapidly across California, including the death Tuesday of a woman at a senior living facility, officials are saying it’s increasingly unlikely they can contain the virus and instead are focusing on slowing its spread.

“The community spread has already occurred,” said Peter Beilenson, Sacramento County’s health director.

An elderly patient in a northern California assisted living facility died of the novel coronavirus, sparking fears of an outbreak among other residents there and renewing concerns about statewide availability of testing kits.

Sacramento County health officials announced Tuesday that a patient in her 90s was the county’s first fatality from COVID-19.

The woman was among about 140 patients of the facility in Elk Grove, the same suburb where all public schools were closed this week after two family members with students at multiple sites tested positive for the coronavirus. Yesterday, the district announced that an elementary-age student in that family had also tested positive.

Beilenson said Tuesday that all patients in the nursing home would be tested for the virus, but that effort was delayed by a lack of test kits. He said the county has access to only 20 tests per day and is having to ration those between possible cases in the community and medical professionals who may have been exposed.

“It has been very frustrating because we have been stuck now for a couple of weeks with just 20 tests a day,” Beilenson said.

Beilenson said other residents of the Elk Grove facility are now subject to special protective measures, including having meals delivered to rooms and not being allowed to congregate in communal areas.

Gov. Gavin Newsom said Tuesday that California has 157 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and that thousands of residents may have come into contact with the disease. The United States has surpassed 1,000 coronavirus cases, with most in Washingon state, New York and California.

The governor said more than 1,075 Californians have been tested for the coronavirus at 18 labs across the state. The state is monitoring an additional 10,300 individuals who returned to California on international flights and may have been exposed, he said. Many others who have interacted with infected people are being advised to self-monitor and quarantine at home.

The largest outbreak of the illness is in Santa Clara County, where there have been 45 positive cases confirmed. On late Tuesday, officials announced that three TSA agents at Mineta San Jose International Airport tested positive. Two screeners at Los Angeles International Airport also have the coronavirus.

In Los Angeles County, Barbara Ferrer, director of the county’s Department of Public Health, said her agency is focused on slowing the spread of COVD-19 but is combining mitigation efforts with containment.

But public health officials in Placer and Yolo counties, which neighbor Sacramento to the northeast and west, have announced a shift from trying to contain the virus to accepting that it is spreading too fast for widespread quarantining measures. Seven people in Placer County have tested positive, including a Rocklin man who died last week. Yolo County has one confirmed case.

Under the new recommendations in Placer and Yolo counties, which are effective through March 31, individuals who have come in contact with a confirmed or suspected case of coronavirus will no longer be required to be quarantined for 14 days. Instead, persons with cold-like symptoms, regardless of whether they have the coronavirus or flu, are asked to self-quarantine and manage their symptoms with over-the-counter drugs.

The counties also said that while they have tests for COVID-19, they will be reserved for those with more serious symptoms,because mild symptoms are treated the same regardless of the diagnosis. The counties urged businesses to allow employees to telecommute where possible and for large events to be postponed or canceled.

Aimee Sisson, Placer County’s public health director, said the county will continue to do some tracing of anyone who comes in contact with the virus, but it will only screen for high-risk situations, such as a person who visited a nursing home or came in contact with an immune-compromised individual.

Widespread quarantine measures can’t be sustained, Sisson said, especially for healthcare workers. California already is taxed with a shortage of medical providers, and forcing quarantines on front-line staff is a burden the system can’t bear as the virus spreads.

If counties keep quarantining healthcare workers for potential exposure, “we wouldn’t have any healthcare workers left,” she said.

Sisson said the county does not have the capacity to continue to trace every contact because it lacks the manpower, even with an offer from the state for additional help.

“Even a handful of cases tested our capacity,” she said.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So...

Nobody has answered my question yet.

Did 15 elderly people in a home in Seattle die of COVID or not?

That's at least half, or possibly more than half of the supposed deaths recorded so far, depending on the source.

Has anybody else even heard of this story?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My old man said that last night there was only one bottle of Purel left on Amazon going for $60.

I guess people are just going to have to wash their hands with soap like normal human beings for now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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My old man said that last night there was only one bottle of Purel left on Amazon going for $60.

I guess people are just going to have to wash their hands with soap like normal human beings for now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Not only is hand sanitizr missing, so is rubbing alcohol (the active ingredient). There's a lot of misinformation "out there" which results in people buying or making sanitizers with ineffective concentrations of alcohol, which is a great way to waste alcohol

Sanitizer is great for situations where you can't leave your work station (like assembly line), for high-contact jobs like receptionists, fast food, and cashiers, where you have close minute-by-minute contact with lots of people (like caregivers, EMTs etc) and aren't always near a sink or can't wash your hands every minute.

Same goes for masks (not even respirators) which at least keeps those people from touching their faces. Everyone who MUST work with a lot of people should have a mask and sanitizer at their work station. It just seems like a job requirement nowadays.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Separately, Here in WI we have 2 new cases, up from 0 active. In Pierce Co and Dane Co (Madison.) Both cases are from traveling in America.

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