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We've trashed the economy so frightened old people like you can feel safe.

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Let me ask you how you're going to feel after you eventually do die of literally anything else knowing that?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Agreed.

What did you think of the pathology and histology results? Too bad that they only reported on 4 people and gave no indication of how many people they examined in such detail, and what % of examinations these four represented.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meanwhile, in reality...

Fatality rate will be much, much lower than is ever reported because we will never have any idea how many hundreds of millions or even billions of people had it and never got tested.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I picked 3,000 cases per state because it's a good substantial number, not easily moved by fluke incidents. But 3,000 cases is a lot of cases. And in 2 and a half weeks, the US went from having 5 states with more than 3,000 cases to 28 states with more than 3,000 cases.


Last updated: April 16, 2020, 18:59 GMT
28 states with more than 3,00 cases

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28 states with more than 3,00 cases

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26 states with more than 3,00 cases

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25 states with more than 3,00 cases

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22 states with more than 3,00 cases

Last updated: April 09, 2020, 00:24 GMT (posted late April 08, 2020)
21 states with more than 3,00 cases

Last updated: April 06, 2020
20 states with more than 3,00 cases

Last updated: April 06, 2020, 01:13 GMT (posted April 5, 2020)
19 states with more than 3,00 cases

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18 states with more than 3,00 cases

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16 states with more than 3,00 cases

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13 states with more than 3,00 cases

As of March 29, 2020 at 18:24 GMT
10 states with more than 3,00 cases

As of March 28, 2020 at 18:19 GMT
5 states with more than 3,00 cases

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meanwhile, in reality...

Fatality rate will be much, much lower than is ever reported because we will never have any idea how many hundreds of millions or even billions of people had it and never got tested.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Meanwhile, in the REAL real world, if you don't have enough ventilators, doctors, hospital beds, masks, and morgue space ... Houston, we have a problem. No matter how many tests are, or aren't, done.

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more untrue stuff posted by Kevin
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more untrue stuff posted by Kevin
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SIX:Meanwhile, in reality...
Fatality rate will be much, much lower than is ever reported because we will never have any idea how many hundreds of millions or even billions of people had it and never got tested.

SIGNY: Meanwhile, in the REAL real world, if you don't have enough ventilators, doctors, hospital beds, masks, and morgue space ... Houston, we have a problem. No matter how many tests are, or aren't, done.
#WEARAMASK


SIX: I don't give a shit, Sigs.

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SIX: We've fucked the economy over this, and there's no going back from that.
Once this panic is over you're going to realize that pretty quickly.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fucking CARES Act cost 5.5 years worth of GWB military budgets.

And that's just to keep people from starving and killing each other for a few months, and barely does anything to address trying to fix the economy whenever the fuck people can go back to their lives.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You've got a real grotch about viruses because somebody scared you when you were a kid? That can't possibly the totality of the problem ...
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

His stories are merely a diversionary tactic to keep you from looking objectively at his life.

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Report: Covid-19 patients recovering quickly after getting experimental drug remdesivir

https://www.statnews.com/]

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Gilead's stock drops after China halts second remdesivir trial

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Report: Covid-19 patients recovering quickly after getting experimental drug remdesivir

https://www.statnews.com/]

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GOOD NEWS!
But China dropped out of the study.

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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/gileads-stock-drops-after-china-halt
s-second-remdesivir-trial-2020-04-15 (April 15)

I wonder why? It's probably an IP thing. Originally they said they wanted to patent remdesivir themselves.

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China Wants to Patent Gilead’s Experimental Coronavirus Drug
Bloomberg News
February 5, 2020

Chinese researchers have applied for a national patent

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on an experimental Gilead Sciences Inc. drug that they believe might fight the novel coronavirus.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology -- based in the Chinese city at the center of the epidemic -- has applied for a patent in China for the use of the antiviral drug, known as remdesivir, in treating the ailment.

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The application was made on Jan. 21 together with a military academy, according to a Feb. 4 statement on the institute’s website.

Large areas of China have been paralyzed by the coronavirus, and the move signals a desire to speed development of one of the most promising potential treatments. Beijing has moved aggressively to contain the infection that has killed almost 500 people and sickened nearly 25,000. If the application succeeds, Gilead would need to get Chinese patent owners on board in sales of the drug for treating coronavirus infections outside China.

“The good thing in having a patent is that it would lead to cross-licensing situations that give China more bargaining chips in negotiating the licensing fee with Gilead,” said Wang Yanyu, a senior partner at AllBright Law Offices in Beijing.

The move may revive longstanding concerns about China’s respect for intellectual property rights. The country has made strides in the pharmaceutical space in recent years as it works to nurture a domestic industry based on innovative drugs.

It’s not clear if or when China’s intellectual property authorities will approve the institute’s application. The patent filing will need to prove that the drug works on this coronavirus strain, 2019-nCoV, in a way that’s different from its effect on other viruses in the same category.

Filing of the patent application by a stakeholder in China, however, makes sense, according to Wang. “Most of the patients are here, rather than in the U.S., which makes it unlikely that Gilead will do all these tests,” he said.

Coronavirus Lurking in Feces May Reveal Hidden Risk of Spread

While Gilead’s experimental drug isn’t licensed or approved anywhere in the world, it is being rushed into trials in China on coronavirus patients after showing early signs of being highly effective. It may go into clinical trials in China as early as next week in patients with moderate and severe symptoms of the pathogen, said Merdad Parsey, Gilead’s chief medical officer.

Chinese scientists have found Gilead’s remdesivir, and chloroquine, an 80-year-old malaria drug, “highly effective” in laboratory studies at thwarting the coronavirus, they said Tuesday in a paper in the journal Cell Research. The two drugs’ efficacy on humans required further clinical tests, the institute said in its statement.
Wants Access

China is capable of manufacturing chloroquine and now wants access to remdesivir.

The decision, however, to seek a patent instead of invoking the heavy-handed “compulsory license” option that lets nations override drug patents in national emergencies, underscores the delicate balancing act before China as it signals commitment toward intellectual property rights alongside curbing the virus outbreak.

“The fact that they have applied for a patent means there’s growing awareness about this in the country,” said Wang. “The government is compelled to avoid using the compulsory license because it has been making efforts to show China respects intellectual property rights and the abuse of compulsory licensing will draw international criticism.”

Gilead will retain the global rights to market the antiviral medication, once approved, in treating illnesses such as Ebola and SARS for which the drug was originally intended.

The Wuhan institute said in its statement that it made the patent application out of national interest, and won’t exercise its patent rights if foreign pharmaceutical firms work together with China to curb the contagion.

At its end, Gilead is shipping enough doses to treat 500 patients and is ramping up supply in case the clinical trials work.

While the drug is challenging to produce, Gilead is working as fast as possible to produce more, according to Parsey. “It has been very no-holds-barred on our side,” he said.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I don't know what happened 3-5 weeks ago (Spring Break? Mardi Gras?), but the USA as a whole reported 4,591 new deaths in one day; well more than twice the usual daily number of heart attacks, which is the usual top cause of death (~2000), and almost twice the record number of the day before (2569)

For those of you who are counting, that would be 1.7 MILLION deaths per year.

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I don't know what happened 3-5 weeks ago (Spring Break? Mardi Gras?), but the USA as a whole reported 4,591 new deaths in one day; well more than twice the usual daily number of heart attacks, which is the usual top cause of death (~2000), and almost twice the record number of the day before (2569)

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For those of you who are counting, that would be 1.7 MILLION deaths per year. Mostly in the NYC, NJ, and MICHIGAN area (the state where people are just dying to get back to work).

Altho NYC just went back and reclassified ~4000 deaths posthumously, those deaths were NOT included in the figure.

So, seriously, what happened? Young adults came home from Spring Break/Mardis Gras and gave it to mom and dad, or grandma and grandpa?



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WaPo:

As U.S. coronavirus fatality rate rises to 5%

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https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-18-20-
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WHO says no evidence antibody tests can determine immunity

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I agree. All of that is funny, despite it being true.

Which part made you laugh, Karen?

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I agree. All of that is funny, despite it being true.

Which part made you laugh, Karen?

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SIXSTRINGSHIT- why don't you just call KIKI a "Russian troll" and turn into a GSTRING?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Too late. I already did.

She should probably stop spouting fear mongering propaganda that is enabling a shift of our government toward Communism.

She only believes the numbers that show worst case scenario and throws out any that destroys her agenda.

I had no idea that I was friendly with hostile agent Karen this whole time.



Second praises Communist tactics because he's an idiot and probably isn't even aware that he's doing it. Karen is not an idiot.

GString might have been right about her all this time.

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