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new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:22 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:50 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: You can always tell when SIGNUTS is about to lie her @ss off because she'll accuse others of lying. Check out this whopper: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I don't have enuf frig space for more than a week's-worth of food, and my smallish freezer (the one that I already said was too small) only has enough room for two or three weeks of meat and cheese, and no room left over for frozen vegies. I know my storage limits. When we unpack groceries, the frig and freezer are full. By the next week, they're pretty empty. So I shop, once per week. You have a fridge, 2 freezers, a pantry / storage for dry goods and you say you can't make it last for more than a week? You must have the fattest family in California. "When we unpack groceries, the frig and freezer are full." Both freezers? WTF do you put in both your freezer? Whole pig? How many pounds of meat do you eat in a week? How many eggs? How many loaves of bread...how many gallons of milk do you drink in a day? On top of which you "say" you're "also on a modified fast most of the time." Is that the kind of fast where you eat more than usual? You're such a lying sack of sh*t.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I don't have enuf frig space for more than a week's-worth of food, and my smallish freezer (the one that I already said was too small) only has enough room for two or three weeks of meat and cheese, and no room left over for frozen vegies. I know my storage limits. When we unpack groceries, the frig and freezer are full. By the next week, they're pretty empty. So I shop, once per week.
Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:59 AM
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Sunday, April 5, 2020 12:02 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:6IXSTRINGJACK: I heard they've developed a self-testing kit that is similar to a pregnancy test that will allow you to test not only whether or not you have COVID currently, but if you already had it and recovered. Not sure if that's true at all because we're in the era of Post-Truth, but if it is, imagine the implications of that. Both good, and bad. "You're free to go back to work, as long as you clear the results with us and send us a sample of your DNA along with it.", among others. The good news is that we'd finally have legitimate death ratios instead of all the fear mongering that's been going on for months now.
Quote:SIGNYM: That would be interesting if true links please
Quote:6IXSTRINGJACK: I don't have any. It's something my old man mentioned yesterday. He doesn't troll the internet so I'm assuming it was some Legacy Media news source he heard it from. Just thought it was interesting and wondered if anybody heard about it. I'll see if I can find anything.
Quote:Originally posted by second: "Self-testing at home to find out whether somebody has had Covid-19 is an efficient way to find out if they are safe to return to work, a senior health official has said. Prof Yvonne Doyle, the medical director of Public Health England, told the health select committee that finger-prick home tests would be available very soon. “We expect that to come within a couple of weeks, but I wouldn’t want to promise on that,” she said." More at www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/covid-19-self-test-could-allow-return-to-work-says-public-health-england]
Quote:“Several million tests have been purchased for use. These are brand new products. We have to be clear they work as they are claimed to do,” Peacock said. “Once they have been tested this week and the bulk of tests arrive, they will be distributed into the community.” Amazon has agreed to carry out distribution and the tests are also set to go on sale in chemist shops. The test detects the presence of IgM, an antibody that arises very early on in the infection, and IgG, which is increased in the body’s response to the virus. The results of some of the tests on order can be read by anyone, but others would need to be interpreted by healthcare professionals.
Sunday, April 5, 2020 1:03 PM
Quote:SIX: I heard they've developed a self-testing kit that is similar to a pregnancy test that will allow you to test not only whether or not you have COVID currently, but if you already had it and recovered. Not sure if that's true at all because we're in the era of Post-Truth, but if it is, imagine the implications of that. Both good, and bad. "You're free to go back to work, as long as you clear the results with us and send us a sample of your DNA along with it.", among others. The good news is that we'd finally have legitimate death ratios instead of all the fear mongering that's been going on for months now. SIGNYM: That would be interesting if true. links please SECOND: "Self-testing at home to find out whether somebody has had Covid-19 is an efficient way to find out if they are safe to return to work, a senior health official has said. Prof Yvonne Doyle, the medical director of Public Health England, told the health select committee that finger-prick home tests would be available very soon. “We expect that to come within a couple of weeks, but I wouldn’t want to promise on that,” she said." More at www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/covid-19-self-test-could-allow-return-to-work-says-public-health-england]
Quote: SIX: Though I don't usually put any stock in what theguardian has to say about anything, I'll choose to remain optomistic that this is actually legit. There's also this article that they linked to in there. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days “Several million tests have been purchased for use. These are brand new products. We have to be clear they work as they are claimed to do,” Peacock said. “Once they have been tested this week and the bulk of tests arrive, they will be distributed into the community.” Amazon has agreed to carry out distribution and the tests are also set to go on sale in chemist shops. The test detects the presence of IgM, an antibody that arises very early on in the infection, and IgG, which is increased in the body’s response to the virus. The results of some of the tests on order can be read by anyone, but others would need to be interpreted by healthcare professionals.
Quote: SIX: Like I said before though, this is both obviously very good news and potentially very bad as well. It all depends on how it is used. My guess, since we still live in America and we're going to at least try to put up a pretense of being in a free country, there are not ever going to be any mandates to take these tests and hand over the results to the government by gunpoint, but there could be huge financial incentives to do so and/or equal penalties for choosing not to. Just for a moment, think about exactly how something like this would need to be carried out. Ask yourself a few questions. Here's a few that I could think of right off the top of my head, but I'm sure I can come up with more, especially when we see what happens with this product in the coming weeks and months... 1. How would the government and your employer be sure that you took the test and you're cleared for work? I don't see any other way to do this than to submit the tests themselves to the government.
Quote:SIX: ... 2. How would they know that you didn't have somebody else take the test for you? DNA, likely. Short of walking into a police station or drug testing lab and having somebody hold your wiener for you while you pee on it, there's no other way that's going to happen. Those online DNA testing companies that tons of people already willingly submitted their DNA to for medical or family history related reasons have already come under fire for sharing their databases with the government. So for many, they already have something to match it to. Maybe additional hoops will need to be jumped through for individuals who don't already have their DNA on file for comparison.
Quote:SIX: 3. Short of forcing people to take the tests, how could the government incentivize people to do so? They're already talking about a second round of stimulus checks. Maybe just hold those hostage. Are you getting unemployment with the additional $600 per week? Well... we're just going to hold onto the rest of those extended benefits for you until you take the test. Beyond financial incentives, people are really just going to be dying to get back to their old lives and are probably going to be going a little bit crazy while on lockdown. It might not even take any financial incentives at all.
Quote:4. In areas where they may have started handing out tickets to people not complying with social distancing mandates, how would police enforcement know that two people standing a foot apart in the street be safe to do so after they've both been cleared? I dunno. Maybe we bring back the "Scarlet Letter"? Holocaust Badges, anyone? https://www.holocaustcenter.org/visit/library-archive/holocaust-badges/ Only this time, it's a good thing if you're wearing one, and you know to shun, shame and keep your distance from anyone who isn't wearing one. (I guess that's further incentivizeation to get people to do it after it starts rolling out. Make those who haven't social pariahs).
Quote: SIX: 5. What are possible implications of this entire process that most people might not immediately think about when this goes into action? I could go on and on with this question until the end of time. But for now, I'll just say that to anybody who was opposed to the idea of a question asking if you were a legal US Citizen on the 2020 Census, well... You're probably REALLY not going to like any of the processes coming down the pike when this thing is implemented.
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Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Would people who die from COVID-19 have died within a year anyway? No. Those COVID-19 deaths represent EXCESS deaths. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/coronavirus-poses-higher-risk-for-those-with-diabetes-and-heart-disease-%E2%80%94-not-just-older-australians/ar-BB12chzP death rates were above 10 per cent for those with a heart condition and 7 per cent for those with diabetes https://abcnews.go.com/Health/risk-severe-covid-19-increases-decade-age/story https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/health/covid19/chronic-illness-and-covid19 13 per cent of infected people aged 80 or over will die Hypertension proportion who die 6% Diabetes proportion who die 7% Cardiovascular disease proportion who die 11% Chronic respiratory disease proportion who die 6% Cancer proportion who die 6% http://theconversation.com/why-are-older-people-more-at-risk-of-coronavirus-133770 80+ death rate 14.8% 70-79 8.0% 60-69 3.6% 50-59 1.3% 40-49 0.4% How can I be so unequivocal? Here's one example: roughly 34M Americans have diabetes, but only somewhat less than a quarter million die from diabetes in a year. That's 0.8% who die from diabetes. And yet, that same population dying at a normal rate of 0.8% from diabetes dies at a rate of 7% from COVID-19. That's A LOT of EXCESS deaths: 6% of diabetics who weren't going to die anyway, had their lives cut short by COVID-19. You can run the same calculation for other conditions, or for age. No matter which category you calculate, the people who die were NOT at death's door, ready to be written off by Jack.
Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So since the SARS Cov-2 virus docks onto human cells via the ACE-2 receptor (typically found in the small vessels of the lungs but also the kidneys, which explains the kidney damage that is ALSO found after Covid-19) I wondered whether the ACE receptor blockers (ARBs) would interfere with docking and blunt the infection. But it turns out that ARBs actually cause an overexpression of ACE-2 recpetors (by a factor of 3-5X) which may explain why people with high blood pressure or heart problems far so poorly: Not because of the blood pressure or heart failure but because of the medications they're taking. THAT might explain the high death rate in Italy. I guess I wasn't the first person to think about this, there is an active discussion about this in the medical community. https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/ace-inhibitors-arbs-and-covid-19-what-gps-need-to On the other hand, a comment buzzed past my ear while I was doing other things that soking prevented the kind of cytokine storm that quickly sent patients CTD (circling the drain). Since it was kind of random, I don't recall where I heard it, but what I found when looking it up is that according to the only studies that could be found on the topic, smoing actually RAISES the risk of severe complications and deaths. http://www.tobaccoinduceddiseases.org/COVID-19-and-smoking-A-systematic-review-of-the-evidence,119324,0,2.html So much for THAT idea (although I will continue to try and find the source of that comment, and any supporting info.)
Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:34 PM
Quote:SIX: And as I've stated before, it's not just people who were going to die this year, but people who would have died in the next couple of years from one of those illnesses anyhow.
Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:50 PM
Quote:What percentage of any of those categories are within the age range of those dying? You're throwing in everybody who has those illnesses, including all of them who are much younger and aren't likely to die even if they get the Coomf and they will recover from it. Your numbers are dumb, and your comparisons are flawed. And as I've stated before, it's not just people who were going to die this year, but people who would have died in the next couple of years from one of those illnesses anyhow. There will be less deaths among old people with those illnesses over the next few years than expected before because, yes, they will die this year instead. Facts of life, hun. Get over it. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, April 5, 2020 9:16 PM
Quote: Germany has remarkably few COVID-19 deaths. Its healthcare system shows how Germany prevented a runaway death toll. Here's how Germany turned itself around as one of the European countries with the highest number of COVID-19 cases to having one of the lowest mortality rates of COVID-19 worldwide. † February: Germany has one of the highest infection rates in the world But Germany sprung into action. By the time Trump made his comments (February 26, 2020), Germany was already taking action to address the coronavirus threat. † Late February and early March: Germany's forceful and rapid response In late February, the country extended school and daycare facility closures and required anyone who had contact with confirmed cases to remain in isolation for 14 days. Even in unconfirmed cases — those who had been near someone with coronavirus-like symptoms — were told to self-isolate. Meanwhile, the government said that it would limit outside travel into the country and begin acquiring protective medical equipment to prepare for the COVID-19 fight. Along the way, despite an inability to get rapid test results, Germany was ramping up its testing efforts. Germany was one of the first countries to develop a testing system for COVID-19. It's early access to reliable tests for COVID-19 meant that Germany could "get a much better handle on who was infected, isolate contacts, and treat those who need care," Jennifer Kates, the senior vice president and global health and HIV policy director at the Kaiser Family Foundation said. † March 9-10: The first deaths German chancellor Angela Merkel and her administration told Germany that they would need to do "everything possible" to slow the coronavirus spread and save lives. She announced that gatherings of more than 1,000 people would be shut down. This was 7 days before Trump recommended social distancing measures in the US based on CDC guidelines. But perhaps what has contributed to Germany's low death rate most is an ace up its sleeve that many other countries can't match: An extremely high bed-to-person ratio. According to data from HealthSystemTracker, Germany has 8.1 hospital beds per 1,000 people and 6.1 ICU beds per 1,000 people. Italy has 3.2 hospital beds per 1,000 and 2.6 ICU beds per 1,000. The US has 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 and 2.4 ICU beds per 1,000 people. "Germany hospital capacity surpasses that of many other countries," Kates said. It's been a key factor in saving lives and not overwhelming a strained healthcare system. † March 17: A bigger risk — and problems testing On March 17, the Robert Koch Institute, which monitors public health across the country, changed COVID-19's health risk to "high" in Germany. The German government said that because of a lag of about three to four days between testing and results, it believed the real number of cases was higher than the recorded 7,000, or so. Germany quickly expanded the number of COVID-19 beds by 1,000 to accommodate extra needs. In the ensuing days, more curfews and quarantines went into effect. Social distancing, a core component in any country's battle with COVID-19, was further tightened as schools, daycare facilities, and other gathering limitations were extended. At the right time, Germany responded forcefully, experts said. † March 22: A widespread crackdown By March 22, Germany's cases hovered at around 25,000, but deaths were just 86 — a fatality rate of approximately 0.3% that easily outpaced China, Italy, and nearly every other country around the world. That day, the German government announced that people would need to remain six feet apart, and gatherings of more than two people were forbidden. Germans were also asked to stay home, unless necessary. It was a move made just a day after Italy announced similar national restrictions on movement and non-essential business activity. But by then, the differences between Germany and Italy were stark: Italy reached more than 59,000 cases that day and nearly 5,500 deaths. † Late March into April: Questions abound "Germany is not out of the woods yet," Kates said. https://www.businessinsider.com/why-germany-has-a-low-covid-19-mortality-rate-2020-4
Sunday, April 5, 2020 9:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:What percentage of any of those categories are within the age range of those dying? You're throwing in everybody who has those illnesses, including all of them who are much younger and aren't likely to die even if they get the Coomf and they will recover from it. Your numbers are dumb, and your comparisons are flawed. And as I've stated before, it's not just people who were going to die this year, but people who would have died in the next couple of years from one of those illnesses anyhow. There will be less deaths among old people with those illnesses over the next few years than expected before because, yes, they will die this year instead. Facts of life, hun. Get over it. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, April 5, 2020 9:57 PM
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Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I replied to your property tax 'issue'. Please read it.
Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: To further address Jack's fallacious claim that people with diabetes are going to die in a couple of years anyway, I took a look at average lifespan of people with diabetes.
Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:51 PM
Quote: https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/who-is-getting-sick-and-how-sick-a-breakdown-of-coronavirus-risk-by-demographic-factors/ After taking into account the patients’ ages and smoking status, the researchers found that the 399 patients with at least one additional disease (including cardiovascular diseases, diabetes, hepatitis B, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, chronic kidney diseases, and cancer) had a 79% greater chance of requiring intensive care or a respirator or both, or of dying, they reported last week in a paper posted to medRxiv, a preprint site that posts research before it has been peer-reviewed. The 130 with two or more additional diseases had 2.5 times the risk of any of those outcomes.
Quote: https://medium.com/wintoncentre/how-much-normal-risk-does-covid-represent-4539118e1196
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SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Monday, April 6, 2020 10:42 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Wrong again, fool. Find me the post where I said I had a pantry and two freezers.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: WHY do you keep posting stuff about me that you couldn't POSSIBLY know, is always wrong, and biased to the negative??? Why do you keep lying?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Now, do you mind not shitting up this thread with lies, personal attacks, and irrelevancies? Or is that how you earn your "working from home" paycheck?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: #STAYTHEFUCKHOME
Monday, April 6, 2020 10:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SIX is clinging to the contention that we don't know the REAL "case fatality rate" and that somehow makes all of the bodies stacking up in refrigerated trucks (because they ran out of morgue space) disappear. SIX, you're right, we DON'T know the case fatality rate. OTOH, with over 1,000 deaths per day caused by Covid-19 (and evidence that coroners, medical examiners etc are undercounting those deaths even so) it's turned into the third-highest cause of death IN THE USA. NOT your typical flu! And if "nothing" was done, as you seem to be advocating, what would the death rate look like then? 2,000/day? More? Until it becomes THE leading cause of death? So what's your point? That it's not "worth" slowing the economy down temporarily to save hundreds of thousands or millions of people? That approach only benefits the wealthy. Which brings up an interesting philosophical point: Is "the economy" supposed to be working for people? Or are people supposed to be "working for" the economy? What is an economy FOR, anyway? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #STAYTHEFUCKHOME
Monday, April 6, 2020 1:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: KIKI, I wanted to get your feedback on this Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So since the SARS Cov-2 virus docks onto human cells via the ACE-2 receptor (typically found in the small vessels of the lungs but also the kidneys, which explains the kidney damage that is ALSO found after Covid-19) I wondered whether the ACE receptor blockers (ARBs) would interfere with docking and blunt the infection. But it turns out that ARBs actually cause an overexpression of ACE-2 recpetors (by a factor of 3-5X) which may explain why people with high blood pressure or heart problems far so poorly: Not because of the blood pressure or heart failure but because of the medications they're taking. THAT might explain the high death rate in Italy. I guess I wasn't the first person to think about this, there is an active discussion about this in the medical community. https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/ace-inhibitors-arbs-and-covid-19-what-gps-need-to On the other hand, a comment buzzed past my ear while I was doing other things that soking prevented the kind of cytokine storm that quickly sent patients CTD (circling the drain). Since it was kind of random, I don't recall where I heard it, but what I found when looking it up is that according to the only studies that could be found on the topic, smoing actually RAISES the risk of severe complications and deaths. http://www.tobaccoinduceddiseases.org/COVID-19-and-smoking-A-systematic-review-of-the-evidence,119324,0,2.html So much for THAT idea (although I will continue to try and find the source of that comment, and any supporting info.) ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #STAYTHEFUCKHOME
Monday, April 6, 2020 1:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: the 12th or so dodge on his capacious wheel of dodges to shift his argument off of yet another losing point
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Quote:Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:21 PM I wouldn't worry about the corona virus. Sunday, January 26, 2020 1:41 PM Meh... it will be fine. Sunday, January 26, 2020 1:41 PM But with the internet and cable news today I'm sure people are hearing about it 10 times a day at least. Sunday, January 26, 2020 2:36 PM you're thinking too much about it is all Sunday, January 26, 2020 10:38 PM people online are going all Y2K about this Sunday, January 26, 2020 10:38 PM Meanwhile, nobody I know IRL has even brought it up. Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:04 AM I'm not at all worried about this thing Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:04 AM people are taking this way to seriously (Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:04 AM I was talking to my grandma on the phone yesterday) Sunday, February 2, 2020 3:00 AM I'm as prepared for the unexpected as I'll ever be right now. I'll let the kids who have to deal with the future worry about things. Sunday, February 2, 2020 12:05 PM My take away from that is people just don't want to hear about it. Sunday, February 2, 2020 12:05 PM 2% actually seems quite high as a mortality rate, I'll grant that, but if every single person in the world were to contract it, that would be only 150,000,000 deaths, and that's not even a drop in the bucket to the over population problem in the world. Sunday, February 2, 2020 2:53 PM This virus is a joke. Sunday, February 2, 2020 2:53 PM Nothing is going to happen. Sunday, February 2, 2020 2:53 PM You're going to be alright. Monday, February 3, 2020 1:14 AM Don't be a bitch. Monday, February 3, 2020 6:43 PM I expect this behavior from the lefties here. You should know better. Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:08 PM just the flu Wednesday, February 12, 2020 7:32 PM Dumb. Saturday, February 15, 2020 11:01 PM I think everybody is just over reporting on this right now because they want to deflect from how awful the Democratic Party is right out of the gates in 2020. Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:45 AM I'm still not convinced that this isn't just a social experiment. Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:45 AM Its been something like 32 years and I've never known somebody with AIDS or known anybody who knew anybody with AIDS. Saturday, February 29, 2020 6:21 AM 16,000+ people is nothing. Saturday, February 29, 2020 2:53 PM Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:57 PM I've heard new numbers for the virus fatality rate are extremely low. 0% fatality rate for those under 10. .2% fatality rate for those under 40. .4% fatality rate for those under 50. Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:57 PM It gets a little higher from there, but not even on the level of the common flu. Wednesday, March 4, 2020 3:53 PM I'm not denying that Corona virus exists. Just saying that it's not scary. Thursday, March 5, 2020 12:20 PM lol rich people. (re cruise ships) Friday, March 6, 2020 1:11 PM You know how many people are going to die from smoking in America ... Friday, March 6, 2020 1:11 PM ... by the end of December this year? Friday, March 6, 2020 1:11 PM Total cases of Coronavirus in America after a month is under 200? Friday, March 6, 2020 1:11 PM Color me unperturbed. Monday, March 9, 2020 1:43 AM lol Monday, March 9, 2020 1:43 AM If that's what living is going to be like in the future just kill me now. Monday, March 9, 2020 1:43 AM Never going to do any of that. Monday, March 9, 2020 4:46 PM I'm probably more bored hearing about this than I was the Russiagate hoax conspiracy theory. Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:10 PM Might as well get it now and let the dust settle. Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:10 PM otherwise you're just postponing the inevitable Friday, March 13, 2020 1:09 PM Average age of deaths from Coronavirus in the US: 80 Friday, March 13, 2020 1:09 PM Total young and middle aged deaths from Coronavirus in the US: 0 Friday, March 13, 2020 1:09 PM More than half of those died in a single old folks home in Washington State. Friday, March 13, 2020 1:10 PM This is starting to look more and more like a big nothing burger to me. Friday, March 13, 2020 3:00 PM If you've managed to live into your 80's and don't feel that you've lived a full life, maybe it's time to get with God or something. Friday, March 13, 2020 3:00 PM We're all going to get it. Every single one of us. It's inevitable at this point. Friday, March 13, 2020 4:34 PM I've always been about flushing 33% or more of the population of the planet. Have fun in your bunkers. Friday, March 13, 2020 4:34 PM See you when this all blows over. Saturday, March 14, 2020 5:39 PM Play ball, I say. Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:03 AM Not sure why this COVID-19 scare has you willing to go full Government Control over everything. I suppose everyone has their price and they found yours. Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:05 AM Ratings must be down. Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:05 AM We need to scare young people so they buy more car insurance. Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:45 PM There is zero chance that 53.6% of Italians are dying of the virus and only 56.4% of them are recovering. Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:04 PM Keep spreading the panic, Maddow. Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:04 PM Cause there's zero chance that over 14.5% of Italians that got it have died either. Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:04 PM Even more likely 0.14% or less. Sunday, March 15, 2020 6:36 PM BTW.. once they figure out how much of a money generator this is for some sectors, expect this to become a yearly happening on a lower and more controlled level. Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:01 AM You're not listening to me. Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:24 AM I haven't lied about anything. Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:24 AM You're really starting to piss me off right now, and I don't like being pissed off at you. Tuesday, March 17, 2020 3:35 AM You're turning into a lunatic.
Monday, April 6, 2020 4:51 PM
Quote:You have unread replies regarding property taxes and national defense. I really wonder why you haven't responded on either of those topics. /sarcasm Owned much, Kiki? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Well, I set a time limit to go into Kevin's wall of shame, and time's up! But there are 61 individual lies, trolls, snarks, insults, unsupported opinions, non-facts, dodges, irrelevancies, and implied threats in his posts through March 17 in this thread alone. And that includes a number of days where he didn't post at all. And that ALSO leaves weeks more to count! And there's not one single fact, or link, about COVID-19. If what you do is what you are, that's exactly what Kevin is. So, putting him on 'ignore', since he's utterly irrelevant.
Tuesday, April 7, 2020 1:06 PM
Quote:This thread. Does your refrigerator have a freezer? Uh-huh - so that's 2 freezers.
Quote: I said "pantry / storage"
Quote:... your 2 freezers and fridge?
Tuesday, April 7, 2020 1:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:You have unread replies regarding property taxes and national defense. I really wonder why you haven't responded on either of those topics. /sarcasm Owned much, Kiki? Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:This thread. Does your refrigerator have a freezer? Uh-huh - so that's 2 freezers. No, that's 1 frig and 1 freezer (since counting the frig also counts the freezer that comes with it). At least, that's what people mean here in the US when they say 'refrigerator'. I'm surprised you didn't know that.Quote: I said "pantry / storage" And for all YOU know, one cupboard is all the storage available. Do you think that would be sufficient?Quote:... your 2 freezers and fridge? And repeats the lie!
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Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: It looks like the US is on track to reach 10,000 deaths by April 14, 2020. And if things continue at the same pace, there'll be 100,000 deaths by April 27. It appears to be expanding at a rate of X10 every 13days.
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